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02:38.39 | navgsoc | does anybosy have an idea, that what is the posibility of the proposal being selected |
02:40.39 | ojwb | navgsoc: it depends on the proposal |
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02:40.55 | ojwb | some have no change, some are almost certain |
02:40.58 | ojwb | *no chance |
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02:41.39 | navgsoc | i am new to this so, i am really curious about the results |
02:42.09 | navgsoc | it says 3 days and some hours remaining |
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02:44.40 | ojwb | navgsoc: 27th is the announcement date |
02:45.03 | navgsoc | how many do they select ? |
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02:45.23 | ojwb | i don't think that's been announced yet |
02:45.37 | ojwb | i'd guess ~1200 |
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02:48.50 | navgsoc | do they short list further? |
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02:56.03 | navgsoc | i mean do you know the process of being finally selcted |
02:56.07 | navgsoc | selected* |
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02:57.50 | ojwb | each org is given a (different) number of slots by google, the org picks students for those slots however it prefers |
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03:03.32 | navgsoc | i mean once they select a certain no of proposal, then howmany among them goes upto final |
03:04.31 | overflow | depends on your proj |
03:06.09 | ojwb | there isn't a "final" |
03:06.41 | ojwb | once each org select their proposals, it's just a matter of resolving students who have been selected by more than one org |
03:07.06 | ojwb | and iterate until there aren't any more, which is why there's a 3 day window allowed |
03:07.43 | ojwb | if the results are announced even a few minutes late, things get pretty heated |
03:10.32 | navgsoc | do they assign one project to more than one person, if yes then can they accept more than one project |
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03:11.04 | navgsoc | code* |
03:11.06 | ojwb | you mean a project idea? |
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03:11.29 | navgsoc | i mean more than one code for a single project |
03:11.34 | navgsoc | from diff person |
03:12.11 | ojwb | the FAQ answers that - an org can accept more than one student to work on the same project idea, but they can't work as a team |
03:12.21 | ojwb | my experience is that few orgs will do that though |
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03:12.54 | ojwb | it doesn't make much sense - if you end up with two successful projects, you probably have to throw one away |
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03:13.08 | ojwb | which is demotivating for that student |
03:13.41 | navgsoc | ok "more than one student can work on the same project" my question is "who gets the pretty amount" |
03:13.54 | aciid | both |
03:14.15 | navgsoc | for the same project idea? are you sure ? |
03:15.03 | ojwb | you mean the stipend? |
03:15.17 | aciid | yes , every student accepted will be paid after mentor approves it |
03:15.23 | ojwb | assuming both students pass their midterm and final evaluations, both get it |
03:15.36 | ojwb | it's two separate projects, just happen to be working on the same thing |
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03:15.58 | ojwb | but that also means if an org get (say) 6 slots, they'll use 2 to do that |
03:16.16 | navgsoc | slot? |
03:16.37 | ojwb | as I said just above: |
03:16.45 | ojwb | each org is given a (different) number of slots by google, the org picks students for those slots however it prefers |
03:16.59 | aciid | each org is alloted a number of slots ie number of students they can take |
03:17.42 | aciid | slot trade between org is possible |
03:17.53 | aciid | navgsoc |
03:18.02 | aciid | navgsoc : go through FAQ once :) |
03:18.29 | navgsoc | i have been but that was confusing so i just came in here |
03:19.40 | navgsoc | now that mean they can give stipend to more than one student for one project idea |
03:19.52 | navgsoc | means* |
03:20.08 | aciid | yes its allowed |
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03:23.17 | navgsoc | i was thinking that generally they select 3000(say) and then they short list them in midterm and then agai in final |
03:23.33 | navgsoc | again* |
03:23.48 | aciid | no |
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03:24.19 | ojwb | each student passes or fails midterm and final independently |
03:24.28 | ojwb | there's no quota that have to pass (or to fail) |
03:25.14 | navgsoc | means its the proposal that decides whether you are in or out |
03:26.37 | ojwb | to start with? |
03:26.47 | ojwb | yes, plus how you've interacted with the org so far |
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03:27.07 | ojwb | some orgs also do interviews |
03:27.29 | dfighter | How would you move Mount Fuji? >;-D |
03:27.34 | ojwb | or ask for a patch or similar so they can see how you work |
03:27.45 | ojwb | dfighter: continental drift |
03:28.08 | dfighter | ojwb :) |
03:28.10 | navgsoc | do you prepare for gsoc? |
03:29.08 | ojwb | navgsoc: yes, though i'm on the org side so it's different sorts of preparations |
03:32.21 | navgsoc | if i make any comment on my proposal, does it make sense now, i mean are org gonna read it? |
03:33.19 | ojwb | they're likely to, though there's no requirement they do |
03:34.51 | navgsoc | coz i was asked to submit an easy hack but i missed their comment, i was thinking to cooment again and tell them that i have submitted |
03:35.52 | navgsoc | comment* |
03:35.57 | ojwb | it can't hurt to |
03:36.14 | ojwb | you could also go and find them on IRC if they use IRC |
03:36.29 | navgsoc | they don't |
03:37.07 | navgsoc | oops no they do |
03:38.08 | navgsoc | k, thanks for all the info, that was really helpfull. i gtg now, have a good day |
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04:56.52 | ashutosh30492 | When do we find out if we are accepted or not? |
04:57.38 | ojwb | 27th |
04:57.50 | ojwb | !timeline | ashutosh30492 |
04:57.50 | gsocbot | ashutosh30492: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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04:59.39 | megha | when i was commenting my half msg got posted in teh melange site.. can't i delete that post ? |
05:00.13 | Ashish_ | Hi, I would like to know. When do the students will get to know if they are selected in more than 1 org. Timeline says "First round of de-duplication checks happens; organizations work together to try to resolve as many duplicates as possible." on 22nd May. Will those be informed about this? |
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05:08.15 | ojwb | megha: no - just comment again |
05:08.24 | ojwb | Ashish_: on 27th |
05:08.42 | ojwb | deduplication is a task for the orgs (and google) |
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05:11.05 | megha | ojwb: ok |
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05:22.40 | Manoj | !next |
05:22.42 | gsocbot | Manoj: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
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05:35.56 | megha | Manoj: that means everything would be decided by 24 th right ? |
05:37.52 | megha | hope i can do my project this summer with GNOME..fingers crossed. |
05:38.22 | megha | anyone there from GNOME is doing a project ? |
05:38.27 | megha | who* |
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05:40.58 | sunu_ | !anyone | megha |
05:40.58 | gsocbot | megha: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://goo.gl/yxeB0 |
05:41.28 | megha | ok |
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05:48.19 | Manoj | megha: yes, all the best to you :) |
05:48.34 | megha | thanks Manoj |
05:48.55 | megha | are you a mentor or a student |
05:49.22 | Manoj | I'm a student, trying for a SymPy project, fingers crossed here as well |
05:49.49 | megha | all the best to you too |
05:50.11 | Manoj | thank you :) |
05:50.33 | ojwb | megha: 27th is the date when it's all finalised |
05:51.34 | Manoj | oh yes, sorry 27th is the date we will get to know |
05:52.10 | megha | oh than anxious moments till 27 th |
05:53.04 | megha | Manoj: where are you from ? |
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05:55.09 | Manoj | megha: I private messaged you, its better not to spam the IRC Channel |
05:55.58 | k-joseph | !next |
05:55.59 | gsocbot | k-joseph: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
05:56.08 | megha | ohh but not recieved your msg yet |
05:56.38 | megha | !next |
05:56.40 | gsocbot | megha: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
05:57.22 | ojwb | you know that factoid doesn't change from minute to minute? |
05:57.31 | megha | what are the different command that can be given tobot ? |
05:57.51 | megha | ojwb: sorry |
05:57.54 | ojwb | not sure there's a full list |
05:57.58 | ojwb | !gsocbot |
05:57.58 | gsocbot | ojwb: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
05:58.07 | megha | i was just checking out. |
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06:03.52 | simplemind | hello i'm a student i would like to apply for soc is the deadline for atudent application over ? |
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06:04.29 | AndreiDuma | simplemind, yes, deadline was May 3 |
06:05.33 | simplemind | so all i have to do is w8 for the next years gsoc :( |
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06:07.45 | ojwb | simplemind: or pick an open source project and get involved |
06:08.05 | ojwb | then you'll have a headstart of many months over most applicants |
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06:10.53 | SunuThePirate | I starteed exploring projects from July last year, because I wasn't old enough to participate last year. And I have to say if you get involved early, you have higher chances of being accepted. Because you have more time to learn and you mentors know you better. |
06:11.52 | ojwb | yeah |
06:12.31 | ojwb | even if you get involved with a different org to the one you end up applying for, a lot of the collaboration skills will be applicable |
06:12.44 | simplemind | thanks |
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06:15.49 | simplemind | can you suggest any site which is useful for beginners in coding |
06:16.17 | megha | simplemind: it's in your benifit that you have an year to start with.. |
06:16.32 | megha | what ojwb and SunuThePirate told is correct.. |
06:17.06 | megha | simplemind: just start with any project that you are interested in.. |
06:17.28 | megha | and depending on the project start learning things.. |
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06:18.35 | simplemind | i'm a begginer in coding i and i dont have much knowledge i do know c++(basic) and html i want to like learn more before i program |
06:19.02 | rku | good luck with that :) |
06:20.02 | simplemind | so do you know any site which has good c++ sources |
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06:20.17 | megha | simplemind: google is your best friend... |
06:20.26 | megha | i have never learned from a specific site.. |
06:21.37 | simplemind | thank you |
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06:24.57 | megha | simplemind: you are welcome |
06:25.23 | zero_level | quer /rpf |
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06:31.11 | megha | zero_level: ? |
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07:27.36 | ashutosh30492 | Is it usual to see radio silence in the community in these times? I mean no more comments on proposals and all. |
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07:30.06 | kblin | ashutosh30492: depends on the community, but can happen |
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08:18.02 | manik__ | ing |
08:18.06 | manik__ | ping |
08:18.08 | manik__ | hi guys |
08:18.36 | manik__ | I'm having trouble trying to locate a student proposal on melange |
08:18.56 | manik__ | the search link doesn't seem to work |
08:19.13 | manik__ | how can i navigate the list of proposals? |
08:19.32 | manik__ | either for a given org or for all orgs? |
08:20.21 | aried3r | Hey. How exactly does Co-Mentoring work? Is there a way to explicitly assign co-mentors in Melange? |
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08:25.31 | aghisla | manik__: you can only browse the proposals of the org you are mentor for. After registering on Melange, you are not yet connected to any org. To do this, you have to go to the org's homepage on Melange, e.g. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/abiword, and "start a connection" (orange button at half-page) |
08:25.55 | aghisla | the org's admins approve you, then you can see the proposals of that org in your dashboard. |
08:26.49 | aghisla | aried3r: there will be a way to assign co-mentors after students' acceptance, if I got it correctly. |
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08:27.36 | aghisla | for the moment, you can ask the comentors to toggle the "Willing to mentor" button on the given proposals |
08:34.14 | manik__ | aghisla: I am a mentor for JBoss.org |
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08:35.04 | manik__ | aghisla, when I browse to https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/jboss it ack's this with this message: "You are already a mentor for this organization" |
08:35.49 | aghisla | Good. What is shown in your dashboard? |
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10:25.53 | dmp | !next |
10:25.55 | gsocbot | dmp: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
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13:42.13 | Shubham_24 | Hi everyone ! |
13:42.27 | anth_x | howdy! |
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14:05.59 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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14:07.25 | gevaerts | decides to get some coffee |
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14:11.17 | carols | hey gevaerts :-) |
14:11.40 | gevaerts | hopes carols enjoyed her vacation :) |
14:11.48 | carols | i did, thank you :-) |
14:12.10 | gevaerts | Excellent! |
14:13.54 | anth_r | question for admin/mentors: am i correct that, in Melange, "Should accept" should be either True or blank (that is, there's no "False")? |
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14:17.32 | carols | anth_r: yes, you're correct. |
14:17.44 | anth_r | excellent, thanks. and welcome back. |
14:17.45 | carols | the only "opposite" of accept is "ignore," but that's for a different purpose. |
14:17.48 | carols | thanks. |
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14:36.19 | tnkhanh | hello |
14:36.37 | tnkhanh | have the students for gsoc been all chosen? |
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14:37.13 | k-joseph | dkayiwa: hi |
14:37.13 | k-joseph | dkayiwa |
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14:57.41 | anth_r | back, with coffee. |
14:57.47 | anth_r | tnkhanh: no. |
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14:58.30 | anth_r | at this point, i imagine the vast majority of slots are "provisionally" filled, but nobody can know for sure until after the de-duplication meeting on the 24th. |
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15:05.31 | dberkholz | we're now at the point of "should we raise our standards even higher" vs "will more students get in who weren't going to" |
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15:06.25 | fewcha | so by 24th the final list will be ready I guess ? |
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15:10.05 | meflin | nope |
15:10.15 | meflin | its final when the emails go out |
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15:14.15 | fewcha | meflin: if i say, "tentative" list, would I be correct? |
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15:15.47 | gevaerts | Does it really matter? |
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15:16.29 | meflin | my tentative list was done at student app close and I was up all night arguing it over and its not that list |
15:17.15 | fewcha | oh, okay, thanks :) |
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15:26.49 | sinhayash | !next |
15:26.51 | gsocbot | sinhayash: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
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15:48.59 | anth_r | carols: i'm out of the country during the de-dupe meeting. our backup admin knows and will be here. |
15:49.17 | anth_r | just in case something happens, i'd like to arrange for a backup for him, just for the meeting. |
15:49.49 | anth_r | but we of course only have one backup in melange. do i need to do anything to indicate some person is authorized to speak for us if our backup gets hit by the proverbial bus? |
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15:51.19 | carols | anth_r: i'll assume if someone says they can speak on your org's behalf that they're telling the truth. |
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15:51.43 | carols | i think the likelihood of a nefarious person trying to change deduplication choices is very low |
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15:52.12 | kblin | hey carols |
15:52.17 | anth_r | yup, just making sure. thanks. |
15:52.17 | manugupt1 | welcomes carols :) |
15:52.18 | carols | hey kblin |
15:52.21 | carols | thanks manugupt1 |
15:52.24 | carols | anth_r: yw |
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15:52.38 | kblin | carols: thanks for the blanket, just what I can use in lousy weather like that :) |
15:52.48 | carols | kblin: you're welcome! thanks for all the help :-) |
15:52.50 | kblin | the OSPO has the greatest shwag ever :) |
15:52.58 | carols | it's pretty soft, isn't it? |
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15:53.05 | JordiGH | Hm, I think I did click on "should accept" for some proposals, but Melange still thinks I haven't accepted any. |
15:53.15 | carols | JordiGH: do they have a mentor assigned? |
15:53.25 | kblin | JordiGH: did you assign... what carols said |
15:53.33 | JordiGH | Huh, I thought I did. |
15:53.45 | JordiGH | Do I have to click on something else after choosing a mentor from the drop-down? |
15:53.52 | carols | yes, "assign" |
15:54.20 | JordiGH | Ah. |
15:55.58 | JordiGH | It's a bit weird how some of the options need a "submit" option and some don't. |
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16:10.41 | gsocbot | kesha: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
16:11.04 | kesha | !timeline |
16:11.04 | gsocbot | kesha: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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16:59.48 | gerv | Anyone able to answer this one? |
17:00.05 | gerv | If we slot more students than our allocated number of slots, will dedupe checks be run for all of them, or just N, where N is the number of slots? |
17:00.21 | gerv | It would be very useful if we could dedupe-check more students than we have slots for. |
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17:00.30 | carols | gerv: it will be run for all of them, so long as the students are marked as accepted and have a mentor assigned |
17:00.36 | gerv | Awesome :-) |
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17:00.39 | gerv | Thanks. |
17:01.22 | carols | yw |
17:01.43 | meflin | and have a mentor assigned ... ( always did that but double checks )) |
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17:03.19 | Lennie | carols, that's actually not true |
17:03.24 | carols | ok :-) |
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17:03.41 | Lennie | gerv, it will only run for the N slots you have based on the ranking you have for those applications |
17:03.56 | gerv | Lennie: are you contradicting carol, there? |
17:04.02 | Lennie | gerv, yes |
17:04.18 | Lennie | In short, we only check for duplications on the applications that would actually be accepted |
17:04.29 | gerv | :-(( |
17:04.30 | Lennie | so if you have N slots we don't check for more than N applications for your org |
17:04.52 | meflin | rankings? |
17:04.53 | gerv | Any plans to change that? |
17:05.07 | Lennie | gerv, not at this time |
17:05.09 | gerv | If there's a chosen student and a backup for a project, it's very helpful to know the dupe status for both. |
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17:05.46 | Lennie | gerv, maybe |
17:05.53 | Lennie | I'm off, have to do an interview |
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17:06.09 | Lennie | gerv, you can leave your thoughts on the mailing list or issue tracker for Melange if you'd like |
17:06.13 | gerv | OK. |
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17:07.22 | meflin | what rankings? |
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17:13.19 | gerv | meflin: The stars, presumably. |
17:14.04 | meflin | contains his freek out |
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17:21.35 | hannibal_11 | hello is it possible that my proposal is very well prepared and i submit patches also but unfortunately my mentor does not get selected for gsoc so indirectly i also dont make it for gsoc ? |
17:21.51 | hannibal_11 | please help me with this, i'm confused |
17:22.11 | scorche|sh | hannibal_11: mentoring orgs have already been chosen |
17:22.29 | JordiGH | hannibal_11: Chill out. :-) |
17:23.40 | hannibal_11 | scorche|sh, I know , i'm asking abt the case when my mentoring org does not select the particular mentor which i'm working on ? |
17:23.54 | hannibal_11 | *with |
17:24.17 | carols | hannibal_11: the mentor is either already selected and working with the org or isn't. there isn't some application period for mentors. |
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17:24.22 | hannibal_11 | JordiGH, I know i should not worry but this keeps bugging me |
17:25.00 | scorche|sh | hannibal_11: i cant comment for all orgs, but most orgs dont really have a selection process for mentors like they do for students |
17:25.03 | carols | hannibal_11: so don't worry about it :-) |
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17:25.55 | hannibal_11 | carols, okay , thanks . One more thing do some orgs have a criteria of selecting students only from particular countries ? |
17:26.03 | carols | hannibal_11: nope |
17:26.21 | carols | that would be discrimination and it would mean the org would never get to participate again. |
17:26.51 | hannibal_11 | allright :-) |
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17:27.37 | hannibal_11 | thanks for the answers guys, may be i'll sleep soundly again , thanks scorche|sh , JordiGH , carols :-) |
17:27.43 | carols | yw |
17:28.18 | JordiGH | How would you detect if an org refuses to work with a particular country, carols? |
17:28.32 | carols | JordiGH: if a student told me. |
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17:30.11 | manugupt1_ | carols: Will that be the only criteria ( me is curious) |
17:30.22 | manugupt1_ | or Google talks to the org too |
17:30.31 | scorche|sh | well, of course there would be further investigation... |
17:30.36 | carols | manugupt1_: um, i don't know what you mean "criteria"? criteria for not being accepted again? |
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17:31.16 | JordiGH | We're asking our students what their internet connectivity is like. Is this discrimination? |
17:31.17 | manugupt1_ | carols: I mean if a student says he / she was discriminated, will you be willing to accept their word |
17:31.33 | carols | manugupt1_: well, i would speak to the org about it, of course. |
17:31.54 | manugupt1_ | carols: k. thats what I was asking |
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17:32.39 | carols | JordiGH: no |
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17:33.03 | JordiGH | It's just that some countries have really bad internet connectivity. It makes it awkward sometimes to work with some students. |
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17:33.41 | JordiGH | Although so far it hasn't been bad enough to be unable to work with someone. |
17:33.50 | meflin | some of the worst spam proposals come from India/China/ex-USR |
17:34.20 | meflin | last year I had 3 awesome passing students from just those places |
17:34.42 | JordiGH | I don't think "spam" proposals are ever actually spam in the sense of automated and massive. |
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17:34.50 | meflin | judge the book not by its cover by what it does |
17:34.54 | kblin | right. spam is pretty obvious, and not a reason to filter per country :) |
17:35.01 | gevaerts | Well, "some of the worst spam proposals come from X" is correct for any X :) |
17:35.24 | kblin | gevaerts: I'd be unwilling to believe that for antarctica |
17:35.38 | meflin | kblin: you might have a win there |
17:35.44 | gevaerts | admits defeat |
17:35.50 | gevaerts | goes to sulk in a corner |
17:35.54 | kblin | mars, maybe, never trust those rovers... |
17:36.06 | JordiGH | kblin: That's true because http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth |
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17:40.26 | overflow | is there any overflow from gsoc? |
17:40.32 | overflow | students that haven't made it, etc.? |
17:41.00 | meflin | any student can join the org and contribute |
17:41.11 | overflow | and not get paid |
17:41.17 | overflow | plus doing that after not getting accepted? |
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17:41.28 | braverock | overflow: there are some organizations that run gsoc-like programs, including for students that don't get selected |
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17:41.40 | meflin | money piffle |
17:41.43 | overflow | right, i have a not-yet-bonafide open-source project |
17:42.03 | overflow | it's in the non-MV* backbone/angular/ember/knockout space |
17:42.10 | braverock | well, then you need to make something awesome that people want to use so that you can attract collaborators |
17:42.45 | overflow | it is actually kind of awesome, heh |
17:42.56 | overflow | + i'm a gsoc 2010 grad |
17:42.57 | kblin | overflow: well, if you don't name your pattern model-view-viewmodel or somoething similarily silly, that's a good first step |
17:43.00 | braverock | then get the word out, and your community will grow |
17:43.06 | overflow | kblin not at all |
17:43.11 | overflow | MVC is way too convoluted |
17:43.23 | overflow | i'm more like the perl of web frameworks |
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17:43.27 | kblin | overflow: also, how can you be a not-yet-bonafide open-source project? |
17:43.38 | overflow | oh i don't focus on marketing, just good product :) |
17:43.53 | overflow | plus i'm semi-open-source, we have a marketplace too that is either free or paid per what the author wants |
17:43.58 | braverock | kblin: you getting at licencing questions? |
17:44.14 | gevaerts | free or paid isn't an open source question :) |
17:44.16 | overflow | www.buildertao.us |
17:44.42 | overflow | oh that makes sense i guess -- |
17:44.44 | kblin | basically, if it's somewhere I can clone it from, under an OSI-approved license, it's open source |
17:45.03 | overflow | that's kind of lame, open-source usually comes with a particular style of community |
17:45.12 | kblin | shrugs |
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17:45.32 | kblin | ISC Bind doesn't have a community, really, at least not a dev community |
17:45.37 | kblin | it's still open source |
17:46.03 | overflow | well, nonetheless is there a place to find overflow? i presume #gsoc is a good spot for students to hang (from memory, it's the only place aside from specific channels) |
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17:47.44 | meflin | overflow: you are wrong |
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17:48.29 | kblin | to be honest, I don't think there's a general pool of students who didn't get into gsoc |
17:48.31 | meflin | the topic here is not some random stuff its GSOC |
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17:49.29 | kblin | most students who completed their GSoC projects even though they didn't get in worked with their respective almost-mentoring-orgs |
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19:24.23 | sdumitriu | Hi carols, I transfered two slots from XWiki earlier today, asking to have them given to CCM, if possible; and while the transaction has been approved, the CCM didn't receive them. Is more patience required, or the CCM won't get them? |
19:24.36 | carols | sdumitriu: more patience is required. |
19:24.46 | carols | that's generally the mantra for most of gsoc. |
19:24.52 | sdumitriu | OK, thanks a lot |
19:24.56 | carols | yw |
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19:27.26 | kblin | !patience | sdumitriu |
19:27.26 | gsocbot | sdumitriu: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
19:27.29 | kblin | :D |
19:27.50 | kblin | also of course... |
19:27.52 | kblin | !when |
19:27.52 | gsocbot | kblin: "when" is later |
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19:28.37 | sdumitriu | Yes, I was just doing that |
19:28.53 | sdumitriu | Thanks kblin |
19:29.06 | kblin | sdumitriu: I just love to use that factoid :) |
19:29.15 | sdumitriu | !next |
19:29.16 | gsocbot | sdumitriu: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
19:29.39 | kblin | sdumitriu: actually, I'd assume most mentors will be doing that anyway |
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19:36.19 | rays2pix | !next |
19:36.20 | gsocbot | rays2pix: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
19:37.14 | dberkholz | we might have 1 extra slot. anyone i know need one badly? |
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19:45.58 | rihnapstor | dberkholz: tim video org needs the 3rd slot. |
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19:46.54 | kblin | dberkholz: that's mithro's hobby project. he's a summit regular :) |
19:47.35 | kblin | dberkholz: speaking as someone who's completely happy with his slot allocations, anyway :) |
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20:29.42 | Andrei_ | Hi - just a quick question: I didn't get any feedback on my applications. Does that imply negative answers? |
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20:30.44 | sdumitriu | Andrei_: Did you explicitly ask for feedback, or are you just expecting feedback to come on its own from the mentors? |
20:31.01 | neverpanic | Andrei_: quick answer: no, not neccesarily. |
20:31.23 | Andrei_ | sdumitriu: I just don't know whether I get no/yes feedback. Last year I was accepted and got the news by email |
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20:32.00 | sdumitriu | Well, as a good student you're expected to be the one actively keeping contact with the mentors |
20:32.23 | sdumitriu | Shooting applications and passively expecting results only rarely gets the student accepted |
20:32.41 | Andrei_ | True |
20:32.56 | sdumitriu | But as neverpanic said, it doesn't mean bad news, it depends on how each mentor/organization likes to do things |
20:33.19 | Andrei_ | Still, do I get a yes/no resoultion by email at the end? |
20:33.40 | sdumitriu | Yes, every student will get an email for each of their applications |
20:33.56 | sdumitriu | Either "Congratulations" or "Sorry" |
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20:34.17 | Andrei_ | Thanks! :) Any advice on how to approach my potential org? |
20:34.41 | sdumitriu | Well, each org should have some contact details listed on their melange homepage |
20:34.54 | sdumitriu | IRC or email are the most popular |
20:35.05 | sdumitriu | I'd try on IRC first, it's quicker |
20:35.33 | sdumitriu | But hurry up, only a few days left for mentors to make up their minds |
20:35.39 | sdumitriu | !next |
20:35.40 | gsocbot | sdumitriu: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
20:35.40 | Andrei_ | Approach, not contact. I.e. do I just go "hey, in case you're not convinced, here's why you desperately need me" |
20:35.52 | Andrei_ | !next |
20:35.53 | gsocbot | Andrei_: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
20:35.54 | sdumitriu | Ah, I see |
20:36.32 | sdumitriu | Hm, actually another option is to leave a comment on Melange |
20:37.26 | sdumitriu | Did you communicate with the organization so far? |
20:37.27 | gevaerts | If it's a large organisation, I'd say the admin is likely not to appreciate mentors changing their minds at this time |
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20:51.02 | groove | Can someone tell me when the students will actually get to know if they are selected or not? |
20:51.11 | dfighter | groove FAQ |
20:51.14 | groove | 24th or 27th? |
20:51.40 | sdumitriu | 27 |
20:52.04 | span | !when |
20:52.04 | gsocbot | span: "when" is later |
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20:53.24 | groove | some of the orgs have this schedule that they will ask students about their availability and all. Eventually if someone is asked about it, doesn't it mean that they are selected? |
20:53.58 | sdumitriu | No |
20:54.15 | groove | Ok. Thanks. |
20:54.16 | sdumitriu | Only receiving an email from Google congratulating you for being accepted means that you are accepted |
20:54.19 | dfighter | groove you are only accepted if you are on the list, when accepted proposals are announced |
20:54.22 | dfighter | you will get an email |
20:54.34 | groove | Thanks :-) |
20:54.45 | dfighter | but IIRC that is also in the FAQ |
20:55.12 | sdumitriu | groove: Relax, fix some bugs, wait for the 27th |
20:55.28 | groove | I didn't fix a single bug |
20:55.32 | groove | they never asked |
20:56.13 | dfighter | ...and ofc you never do stuff that is not asked :) |
20:56.28 | groove | yeah \m/ |
20:56.48 | dfighter | I see you have the right mindset for the program! |
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20:57.53 | sdumitriu | dfighter: Need a hand to get out of that sarchasm? |
20:58.21 | groove | dfighter Thanks for the appreciation :) .. good luck to you as well |
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20:58.34 | ehershey | 2/ |
20:58.35 | dfighter | sdumitriu sarcasm is great, it's better than killing people! :) |
20:58.58 | groove | dfighter but you almost killed me there |
20:59.05 | dfighter | :( |
20:59.06 | neverpanic | dfighter: how do you know? have you tried? |
20:59.27 | dfighter | neverpanic what if I say I was in jail for a few years for it? |
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21:00.21 | neverpanic | I'll take your advise then. |
21:00.29 | groove | dfighter I am assuming you are a student, right? |
21:01.00 | roonyH | jail for sarcasm? |
21:01.00 | dfighter | neverpanic :D |
21:01.09 | dfighter | groove yep |
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21:02.05 | groove | dfighter then it must have been hard staying in jail |
21:02.26 | dfighter | groove how so? |
21:02.41 | dfighter | people who have been in jail cannot be students? |
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21:03.00 | groove | we are not talking about days or weeks or months.. you were in jail for a few years.. dude that is real badass |
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21:03.15 | dfighter | when did I say I was? :P |
21:03.25 | dfighter | I asked neverpanic what if I say I was |
21:03.26 | groove | killer |
21:04.07 | dfighter | :( |
21:04.32 | neverpanic | correct, I should have written "I'd take your advise then." |
21:04.35 | groove | pallavtinna ssup maan?? |
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21:04.55 | groove | tell dfighter how many decades you have spent in jail |
21:05.18 | sdumitriu | Looks like pallavtinna got scared... |
21:05.19 | dfighter | I don't think he wants to discuss it |
21:05.19 | dfighter | :D |
21:05.32 | groove | yeah :D |
21:05.42 | dfighter | anyhow afk |
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