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| 06:37.45 | gsocbot | kblin: "next" is March 29, 1900 UTC: Mentor organization application closes |
| 06:38.00 | olasd | close enough :) |
| 06:38.23 | kblin | !learn next as April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 06:38.23 | gsocbot | kblin: "next" is (#1) March 29, 1900 UTC: Mentor organization application closes, or (#2) April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 06:38.30 | kblin | !forget next 1 |
| 06:38.31 | gsocbot | kblin: "next" is April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 06:38.43 | kblin | !cookie |
| 06:38.44 | gsocbot | kblin: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 06:38.58 | olasd | hmm, cookies. |
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| 07:42.55 | acl | an irc channel! convenient! |
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| 08:29.06 | hans_zimmer | can someone give any idea about mailing list where it to find it for a particular org |
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| 08:34.10 | |Kev| | On their website? |
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| 08:37.13 | hans_zimmer | i m interested in phpmyadmin org for developement for this summer any idea who i should contact |
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| 08:41.15 | stefano-k | hans_zimmer: you could try #phpmyadmin |
| 08:41.32 | yogev_ezra | http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/GSoC_2013_Applicant_Guide |
| 08:41.32 | |Kev| | They have an entire section on their website devoted to GSoC 2013. |
| 08:41.56 | |Kev| | I'm afraid that anyone who can't find that probably isn't cut out for the level of independence needed for a GSoC project. |
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| 08:44.36 | yogev_ezra | But do I understand correctly that looking for an organization to apply now is still pointless, because approved organizations weren't selected yet? |
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| 08:45.30 | yogev_ezra | We have applied 1st time as organization this year, so I am not really familiar with how this works. Do approved organizations get approval email all at once? Or in batches? |
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| 08:48.07 | yogev_ezra | And if I would be a student, how would I know even which organizations have applied, before the list of approved organizations is announced? |
| 08:50.18 | buddycloud | https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=cTJjdXF0cnRpbDFnb2VmN2RrbzU5Y2Y1amMgZ3N1bW1lcm9mY29kZUBt&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&sf=true&output=xml |
| 08:54.39 | yogev_ezra | buddycloud: That's exactly what I was talking about. How can people want to apply now even before the organizations know were they selected or not? |
| 08:55.07 | |Kev| | It's just placing bets. |
| 08:55.25 | acl | they're so insanely enthusiastic about open source |
| 08:55.25 | |Kev| | If you were to make preliminary enquiries with, say, three orgs you'd have to be fairly unlucky for none of the three to get in. |
| 08:55.51 | |Kev| | And there's no harming looking at the orgs that are applying and pre-sorting them by preference. |
| 08:56.09 | acl | how rigorous is gsoc? participant students receive ~$5k yes? |
| 08:57.13 | yogev_ezra | |Kev| : that was actually my second question. How a wannabe student can know which organizations have applied before the list of approved organizations was published? |
| 08:57.52 | yogev_ezra | I haven't found any such list on GSoC website. So it's probably down to search the web I guess |
| 08:58.14 | buddycloud | I suppose you could build a time machine. Or wait until the list is published like everyone else. |
| 08:59.07 | yogev_ezra | No, I am just asking this because it seems that people have some info that I can find nowhere. |
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| 09:02.32 | ojwb | yogev_ezra: there is no such list |
| 09:02.43 | ojwb | though most orgs don't keep it a secret that they have applied |
| 09:03.00 | ojwb | e.g. try a search for something like gsoc 2013 project ideas |
| 09:03.43 | yogev_ezra | ojwb: That's exactly what I was doing. I just thought there's a list somewhere that people know and I don't :-) |
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| 09:25.02 | |Kev| | yogev_ezra: No, no list, but if you search for 'GSoC 2013 ideas list' you'll get more than a couple of hits. |
| 09:25.20 | |Kev| | And plus you can just look at last year's list with reasonable confidence that those orgs will be applying. |
| 09:25.41 | yogev_ezra | |Kev|: yeah, thanks, ojwb already told me the same :-) |
| 09:25.42 | |Kev| | (He says, despite coming from an org taking a hiatus) |
| 09:26.33 | yogev_ezra | Thanks for the answers guys and gals, got to go |
| 09:26.38 | |Kev| | Enjoy. |
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| 11:45.19 | abhinav | hey...how can i get the list of organisations applied for gsoc 2013? |
| 11:46.27 | acl | [05:02] <ojwb> yogev_ezra: there is no such list |
| 11:46.27 | acl | [05:02] <ojwb> though most orgs don't keep it a secret that they have applied |
| 11:46.36 | yogev_ezra | abhinav: I just asked the same a few hours ago. you cannot :-( |
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| 11:46.58 | yogev_ezra | you only can search the web for organizations that say that they applied |
| 11:47.14 | yogev_ezra | or wait till April 8th when selected organizations are announced |
| 11:48.17 | abhinav | hmmm...ok thnx yogev_ezra |
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| 11:53.56 | lpapp | hi, is there a public somewhere how much Google spends for GSoC altogether, or our best bet is to check how many slots are available for students as a start? |
| 11:54.03 | lpapp | public report* |
| 11:54.25 | bobbyaldol | is drupal participating in this years gsoc? |
| 11:54.27 | olly | lpapp: there were just over 1200 slots last year |
| 11:55.20 | ssice | PioneerAxon: Hi, can I msg you? |
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| 11:56.11 | olly | lpapp: oh, i misread - you're wondering what the budget is |
| 11:56.30 | olly | lpapp: did you try a google search for: gsoc budget |
| 11:57.29 | lpapp | olly: nope, thanks. Seems to be $7.3M budget last year. |
| 11:57.53 | olly | bobbyaldol: if you want to know if they've applied, go and ask them; we won't know which orgs are selected for about a week |
| 11:57.54 | lpapp | does Google have a business model behind it or it is just for fun and enthusiasm by the investors if I may ask? |
| 11:58.09 | ssice | PioneerAxon: I wanted to discuss your idea for calculator, I'll talk to you later (msg me) |
| 12:00.15 | olly | lpapp: i think fundamentally they do it because they can |
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| 12:05.54 | lpapp | olly: that is really nice from the investors. |
| 12:06.11 | lpapp | and stakeholders. |
| 12:08.37 | lpapp | thank you for the help. |
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| 13:00.03 | aadi | anyone live |
| 13:00.48 | aadi | anyone want to work win Tux4Kids through Google Summer Of COe 2103 |
| 13:00.48 | acl | no |
| 13:01.07 | aadi | IdeasList here :- |
| 13:01.12 | aadi | https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2013-tux4kids/wiki/IdeasList |
| 13:02.02 | acl | lan multiplayer idea sounds fun |
| 13:02.17 | aadi | :) |
| 13:02.20 | aadi | full fun |
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| 13:02.35 | aadi | at time of development as well as playing own game |
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| 15:02.17 | PioneerAxon | ssice: Hey, sorry, was AFK, you still around?? |
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| 15:45.28 | ssice | PioneerAxon: are you still there? |
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| 15:52.08 | PioneerAxon | ssice: Yeah |
| 15:52.11 | PioneerAxon | PM me |
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| 16:18.33 | giuscri | Hello world! Is this the right place for students (!) interested in GSoC? |
| 16:18.57 | OsakaFoo | Sure is |
| 16:19.22 | OsakaFoo | Though still acceptng orgs :( |
| 16:19.34 | OsakaFoo | s/tng/ting |
| 16:20.13 | giuscri | mhn... Okay, but why the room is so silent? |
| 16:21.05 | giuscri | (sorry, that's certainly not your fault =) ) |
| 16:21.30 | OsakaFoo | It will pick up nearer the time :), though it is quite active |
| 16:22.03 | OsakaFoo | What type of project are you intrested in? |
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| 16:23.18 | giuscri | umh. In reality, I've heard about GSoC just few days ago. |
| 16:24.08 | OsakaFoo | Well you're in plenty of time to get ready :) |
| 16:24.21 | giuscri | hope so! |
| 16:24.24 | OsakaFoo | I forgot about it last year and remembered the day student applications ended >.> |
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| 16:25.01 | giuscri | Uh, bad. Then, good luck for this year! =) |
| 16:25.14 | OsakaFoo | hah thanks, same to you :) |
| 16:27.10 | giuscri | But, I haven't realise extactly how that works. I mean: we, the students, keep on waiting until the `list of accepted mentoring organizations` get published, and THEN we start to think about the project ... |
| 16:27.21 | giuscri | ...or we should start to think about that since now? |
| 16:27.38 | giuscri | * start thinking about |
| 16:28.35 | OsakaFoo | You can look up orgs which have applied and they will most likely have a page of suggested prohects. And there is nothing stopping you working on them. But they have not been accepted so there is a chance that that project will not be avilable. |
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| 16:29.22 | OsakaFoo | So you can think and look up projects, but you or the org might not get accepted. |
| 16:29.38 | OsakaFoo | urgh, I've confused my self |
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| 16:30.04 | ChrisOelmueller | now would be a nice time to get familiar with open source development in general |
| 16:31.05 | giuscri | @ChrisOelmueller: what do you mean? |
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| 16:31.37 | ChrisOelmueller | there are aspects that you'll need when working with any organization, such as bug trackers or version control |
| 16:31.44 | giuscri | (ehm, and sorry for my English. I feel some of my expression could be a little rude, but I'm not a native speaker) |
| 16:31.58 | giuscri | mmm, ok |
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| 16:32.33 | ChrisOelmueller | maybe try to locate the source code and bug tracker for some of the organizations behind open source software you use (outside of gsoc), attempt to build it and so on |
| 16:33.28 | ChrisOelmueller | this will help you develop a patch for the organization(s) you plan to apply for gsoc, which is required or at least encouraged with many of them |
| 16:33.36 | OsakaFoo | ChrisOelmueller: Do you think it would be usefull to point students to ESR's writtings? |
| 16:34.41 | ChrisOelmueller | you certainly didn't mean it like that but i'd prefer to not link esr anywhere currently, so: maybe :-) |
| 16:35.30 | giuscri | ChrisOelmueller: have you already partecipated to GSoC? |
| 16:35.50 | ChrisOelmueller | not as a student, if that was your question :) |
| 16:37.20 | OsakaFoo | ChrisOelmueller: heh, My open source module we had to read and quote sections from here http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/homesteading/cathedral-bazaar/ it was intresting :P |
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| 16:37.59 | ChrisOelmueller | well that's a nice read nonetheless |
| 16:38.02 | giuscri | mmm, that's not very important. In reality, I'm searching for lots of advice. I've already read something in the GSoC site ... Because I'd expect that expecially in this period I would have heard my question thousand of times, have you any reference where to read some advice to a student? |
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| 16:39.12 | ChrisOelmueller | first place to check if you haven't already, the student guide at http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 16:39.47 | giuscri | yes, I already check that, though I'm planning to read it more deeply tomorrow. |
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| 16:43.28 | giuscri | Okk. Now I have to go. Thank you -Chris* and Osaka*- for this conversation. Hear you! =) |
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| 16:44.56 | OsakaFoo | waves |
| 16:45.16 | OsakaFoo | (He's gone hasn't he?) |
| 16:46.06 | OsakaFoo | ChrisOelmueller: You entering FIFE this year? |
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| 16:46.44 | ChrisOelmueller | we applied again at least, yes |
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| 16:47.26 | CPCookieMan | Hi everyone |
| 16:47.51 | OsakaFoo | ChrisOelmueller: Good luck, it looks like a fun project :) |
| 16:48.03 | ChrisOelmueller | thanks :) |
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| 18:36.31 | giuscri_ | Hello! |
| 18:36.41 | giuscri_ | Is there anyone interested in OpenCV? |
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| 22:26.16 | plaintext | Hello! |
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| 22:29.19 | Arthur_D | greetings, earthling |
| 22:30.23 | bohoo | hola alieno |
| 22:30.38 | Arthur_D | Esperanto? :P |
| 22:30.43 | plaintext | I have a question about my eligibility to participate |
| 22:30.53 | plaintext | I am in the process of changing universities |
| 22:31.08 | plaintext | At my current uni I'm on a "passive" semester, which means I didn't take any classes |
| 22:31.26 | derdon | read that as "I am in the process of changing universes" |
| 22:31.47 | plaintext | and I was recently accepted to a different university for an Erasmus Mundus programme |
| 22:31.56 | plaintext | but I won't start that until september |
| 22:32.02 | plaintext | so is there a chance I could participate? |
| 22:32.36 | scorche | plaintext: as it says in the FAQ, you must be "accepted into or enrolled in a college or university program as of May 27, 2013" |
| 22:32.51 | scorche | if you are, great - if you arent, maybe next year |
| 22:33.13 | plaintext | Well I'm legally a student of my current university and I'm accepted to a different one |
| 22:33.19 | plaintext | I'm unsure what this means in my case |
| 22:33.32 | scorche | then it sounds like the answer to that question is probably yes |
| 22:33.39 | plaintext | Great, thank you |
| 22:34.10 | ojwb | plaintext: if you have (or can get) a letter saying you're accepted or enrolled by one of the unis at the magic date, you should be good |
| 22:34.26 | plaintext | Thanks! |
| 22:35.17 | thiago | you're enrolled in two universities for Erasmus |
| 22:35.23 | thiago | any one of them would be fine |
| 22:35.33 | thiago | your home university is more likely to produce a certificate |
| 22:36.25 | plaintext | Well yes but Mundus is a bit different, I will quit my home university in september |
| 22:36.56 | thiago | that means you're still with them in May |
| 22:36.57 | plaintext | and then I'll spend 1 year in two universities and get a master's |
| 22:37.01 | plaintext | yes |
| 22:43.43 | rgap | how many hours/day need? |
| 22:43.59 | thiago | 8 |
| 22:45.48 | rgap | 8 or less |
| 22:45.52 | rgap | ok |
| 22:46.13 | ChrisOelmueller | as many as you need to successfully complete your project |
| 22:46.41 | ChrisOelmueller | which is usually approximated by 8 a day if we can't be more specific |
| 22:54.42 | scorche | plaintext: yeah - you will be asked to prove you are/were enrolled/accepted on that date ;) |
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