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| 05:28.55 | hfactor | Hi all, my name is Hiran, I am exGoC, 2013. I am invited to an event to talk about GSoC. Could someone helping me by sharing some slide that covers the entire topic GSoC - what, how, what not, timeline, benefits etc ? |
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| 05:44.13 | marina | hfactor: take a look at http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramPresentations ! |
| 05:44.39 | hfactor | thanks a lot marina |
| 05:45.16 | marina | hfactor: welcome - you might like to check out the info on the rest of that wiki too |
| 05:45.59 | hfactor | marina: sure, what i need was a base. with every point in it , so that i wont miss the major things - this is perfect! |
| 05:46.27 | marina | hfactor: yeah, it's an awesome resource! |
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| 07:03.12 | Sayantan | Hello |
| 07:05.28 | Sayantan | I'm an undergraduate student and I'm enrolled to my university till June 2013. Can I participate in this year's GSoC? |
| 07:06.14 | thiago | probably |
| 07:06.24 | Catfish_Man | Sayantan: as far as I know, yes |
| 07:06.38 | thiago | but ask yourself: what will you be doing in July and August? |
| 07:06.49 | thiago | will you be looking for a job? |
| 07:07.32 | Sayantan | Yes of course I will, but I think that shouldn't be a problem. |
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| 07:10.00 | Sayantan | Can I sumbit a bonafide certificate issued by the college? |
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| 08:42.26 | param | hello .... i am new to opensource .... heard about gsoc...... how to get started with gsoc and how to apply ... I have been working on openstack and ubuntu from couple of months |
| 08:44.16 | param | hello .... i am new to opensource .... heard about gsoc...... how to get started with gsoc and how to apply ... I have been working on openstack and ubuntu from couple of months |
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| 09:46.22 | Xardov | hey there! |
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| 10:27.58 | himsin | !log |
| 10:27.59 | gsocbot | himsin: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 10:28.42 | censorydep | !log |
| 10:28.43 | gsocbot | censorydep: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 10:28.52 | censorydep | interesting... |
| 10:29.29 | himsin | Hi, where are the logs for this channel? |
| 10:30.54 | censorydep | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gsoc+irc+logs |
| 10:31.14 | censorydep | !whoami |
| 10:31.15 | gsocbot | censorydep: I don't recognize you. |
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| 10:31.19 | censorydep | clearly. |
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| 11:43.15 | jaw | hi, to apply our project as a mentoring organization, what should I do? |
| 11:44.24 | jaw | nevermind, found it I think :) |
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| 16:00.00 | JordiGH | Are there any success stories of an individual being org admin for two orgs? |
| 16:00.05 | JordiGH | I'm gonna try to do that this year. |
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| 16:08.25 | akif500 | Jordigh: which orgs ? |
| 16:08.34 | JordiGH | Mercurial and Octave. |
| 16:08.56 | akif500 | you sure google allows this ? |
| 16:09.08 | JordiGH | Yeah, they allow it. They just discourage it because it's a lot of work. |
| 16:09.28 | gevaerts | I know scorche has done that in the past |
| 16:09.34 | JordiGH | I'll still need a backup admin for each org, but I think I can get them. |
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| 16:15.42 | JordiGH | scorche`: Confirm, deny? |
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| 16:31.39 | JordiGH | Do students get taxed on their GSoC income? That varies by country, right? |
| 16:31.47 | JordiGH | They're not paying US taxes, only local taxes, right? |
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| 16:36.50 | akif500 | they pay local taxes |
| 16:37.51 | akif500 | in INDIA they pay 20% taxes if the tax is not deducted at source |
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| 16:43.23 | darnir_ | akif500: That is quite easily avoidable. Put some of the income as an investment. You can tax concessions there and fall out of any taxable blocks. |
| 16:44.24 | MatthewWilkes | darnir_: I think there's a policy of not giving tax advice in this channel, as US law forbids it and it might put Google in an unpleasant situation |
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| 16:44.47 | akif500 | hahaha... :D |
| 16:44.54 | darnir_ | MatthewWilkes: Oww! Didn't know about that. Sorry. |
| 16:45.09 | MatthewWilkes | I won't tell if you don't ;) |
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| 16:46.02 | anth_r | and regardless, it's not a good idea to take tax advice from random folks in IRC. ;-) |
| 16:46.12 | derdon | MatthewWilkes: US law forbids to give tax advice?! |
| 16:46.21 | darnir_ | anth_r: True that. |
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| 16:47.04 | darnir_ | MatthewWilkes: Also, I think US law would forbid giving tax advice only when applicable to US right? (Just for my knowledge) |
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| 16:48.31 | MatthewWilkes | darnir_: Yep, but people have such complex situations that it's a good rule of thumb. I've occasionally PMed someone in the UK to tell them the right people to talk to and certain implications that I'm sure of, but only if I'm careful to put all the caveats on it |
| 16:48.53 | MatthewWilkes | If we give advice here then more people will ask for it, and it turns into an issue |
| 16:49.18 | gevaerts | darnir_: I always understood they have freedom of speech there |
| 16:49.26 | MatthewWilkes | hits gevaerts |
| 16:49.39 | MatthewWilkes | you! |
| 16:49.40 | Darrel | ahahaha |
| 16:49.40 | darnir_ | Oh okay. That way it's true. You don't want to encourage these things |
| 16:49.50 | darnir_ | :-D |
| 16:49.52 | derdon | gevaerts: only if you want to deny the holocaust. SCNR |
| 16:50.06 | MatthewWilkes | Well. That escalated quickly. |
| 16:50.22 | scorche|sh | ...quite |
| 16:50.26 | scorche|sh | lets stop that |
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| 16:55.59 | JordiGH | What's the suggested average time commitment for a mentor? I've been saying 10 hours per week. |
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| 16:59.11 | anth_r | that seems like a good average in my experience. |
| 16:59.46 | anth_r | i usually tell my prospective mentors 10 hours, possibly more if things get rough. |
| 16:59.55 | darnir_ | 10 hours a week for a mentor? |
| 17:00.09 | darnir_ | Why would so much time be required? |
| 17:00.21 | ChrisOelmueller | to, well, mentor the student |
| 17:00.24 | anth_r | it's often less, but i don't mention that up front to keep expectations good. |
| 17:01.03 | darnir_ | I understand that duh! |
| 17:01.23 | darnir_ | But I would've figured the mentor usually only points in the direction and the student does the work. |
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| 17:01.51 | ChrisOelmueller | and everything works out of the box and they lived happily thereafter |
| 17:01.53 | ChrisOelmueller | ;-) |
| 17:01.54 | darnir_ | Didn't realise mentoring requires all that time! |
| 17:02.59 | darnir_ | I have been working with a propective mentor for about a month now. (I'm a student). He usually only spends enough time to reply back to my mails once a day. |
| 17:03.13 | darnir_ | And that's worked quite well. |
| 17:03.36 | ChrisOelmueller | other students may need more guidance |
| 17:03.51 | darnir_ | Hmm. |
| 17:04.14 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 17:04.49 | white | thanks carols for tea |
| 17:04.56 | carols | you're welcome, white |
| 17:05.18 | anth_r | it all depends on the student. |
| 17:05.37 | anth_r | we've had a few that required maybe 2 hours a week from their mentors. |
| 17:06.14 | anth_r | and we've had more difficult ones where the mentor, backup mentor, and admin all got involved, spending different amounts of time, maybe 30 hours a week between them. |
| 17:06.25 | anth_r | thankfully, the former is way more common that the later, in my experience. |
| 17:06.56 | anth_r | actually, i can only think of one case where it got that intense. |
| 17:07.54 | darnir_ | anth_r: You mentor for? |
| 17:07.58 | anth_r | so i'd say the mean was around 10 hrs/week, but the median was abotu 5. |
| 17:08.32 | anth_r | i've been admin for plan9 for a few years now; mentored for them once. |
| 17:08.37 | JordiGH | When are the two 2500 installments paid? (sorry, too lazy to jfgi) |
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| 17:09.12 | anth_r | (we always have more mentors than slots, and other mentors fit the specific projects better the other years) |
| 17:09.47 | ChrisOelmueller | it's 500 - 2250 - 2250 |
| 17:09.55 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 17:09.57 | darnir_ | JordiGH: 500 in the beginning. May end I suppose. 2250 at mid-sem. Somewhere around July I guess |
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| 17:10.03 | darnir_ | and 2250 at the end. |
| 17:10.20 | JordiGH | Yeah, but I want the exact dates... for advertising to starved PhD students. |
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| 17:10.26 | JordiGH | I guess I'll jfgi. |
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| 17:11.44 | anth_r | is it on !timeline ? |
| 17:11.56 | anth_r | oh, doesn't work that way, huh? hrm. |
| 17:11.59 | anth_r | !timeline |
| 17:11.59 | gsocbot | anth_r: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 17:12.05 | JordiGH | Here we go: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._How_do_payments_work |
| 17:12.53 | darnir_ | Slightly off-topic. Is there any chance that gsocbot's code is open sourced? |
| 17:13.12 | JordiGH | I think it's a supybot. |
| 17:13.16 | JordiGH | gsocbot: What are you? |
| 17:13.22 | darnir_ | supybot? |
| 17:13.31 | JordiGH | !supybot |
| 17:13.44 | JordiGH | Hm. |
| 17:13.47 | JordiGH | !info |
| 17:13.48 | gsocbot | JordiGH: (info [<channel>] <key>) -- Gives information about the factoid(s) associated with <key>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 17:13.52 | Kakerot | is GSOC for only undergraduates |
| 17:14.04 | JordiGH | Kakerot: No, grad students are also welcome. |
| 17:14.07 | Kakerot | or even for people doing post graduations? |
| 17:14.15 | sharvey | Kakerot: I was a phd student and did gsoc |
| 17:14.15 | Kakerot | JordiGH: ok |
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| 17:14.33 | Kakerot | sharvey: in which org? |
| 17:14.48 | sharvey | Kakerot: I was with 52north |
| 17:15.07 | Kakerot | was there anybody with abiword? |
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| 17:17.21 | Kakerot | to participate in gsoc does one organisation has to be open source or it can be possible that it wants few open source projects |
| 17:17.23 | Kakerot | ? |
| 17:18.23 | JordiGH | Wow, Abiword. |
| 17:18.27 | JordiGH | Did they get into GSoC? |
| 17:18.59 | Kakerot | JordiGH: YA y??...werent they supposed to? |
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| 17:19.20 | JordiGH | I'm just impressed that they still have mindshare despite a giant like LibreOffice. |
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| 17:19.37 | gsoc | Hello from Hunter College! We're all gathered around doing a thing about GSOC 2013! |
| 17:19.58 | Kakerot | ya...i am thinkin of participating in that org |
| 17:20.03 | anth_r | hello, Hunter College! |
| 17:20.21 | anth_r | and wow, the whole school? good turnout! |
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| 17:26.44 | gsoc | Just the cool people |
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| 17:32.50 | gsoc | Thanks to carols for the t-shirts, stickers, et al. |
| 17:33.02 | carols | gsoc: you're welcome. |
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| 18:28.49 | gsoc | dberkholz: Thanks for your advice re mentor-student communication! Just talked about it with some students at an info session. |
| 18:29.10 | gsoc | (This is Sumana.) |
| 18:31.35 | dberkholz | gsoc: much of my advice is backed by gsoc survey data so thank the gsoc team for doing it in the first place =) |
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| 18:32.43 | dberkholz | gsoc: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/08/contact-early-contact-often.html is a great post |
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| 18:42.52 | gsoc | Bye all |
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| 19:18.42 | scorche` | JordiGH: confirmed - i have been org admin for 2 orgs in the past |
| 19:19.49 | JordiGH | scorche`: And apparently lived to tell the tale. |
| 19:20.50 | scorche` | apparently |
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| 19:22.13 | JordiGH | scorche`: Which orgs? |
| 19:23.38 | scorche` | Rockbox and Sugar Labs |
| 19:24.09 | JordiGH | Nice. |
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| 19:24.47 | JordiGH | Btw, I just got Rockbox on a Sansa Clip+ that my girlfriend bought for me for its hackability factor, and man, Rockbox is an awesome piece of work. I've never seen such beautiful documentation before. |
| 19:25.10 | JordiGH | 30 CAD for a free player with a free OS, yay! |
| 19:25.21 | JordiGH | Anyways, Rockbox lives up to its name. Thanks. |
| 19:25.40 | scorche` | =) |
| 19:26.09 | scorche` | cheers for the fine people who have worked on our fine manual ;) |
| 19:28.11 | JordiGH | I'll be sending some money to the donation box very soon. Not a whole lot, sadly, but some. |
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| 19:39.22 | scorche` | thanks! |
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| 21:01.47 | sumanah | !log |
| 21:01.47 | gsocbot | sumanah: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 21:02.35 | scorche|sh | !logs |
| 21:02.36 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 21:02.40 | scorche|sh | sumanah: ^^ |
| 21:02.54 | sumanah | Thank you! |
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| 21:03.34 | paultag | hi, sumanah! |
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| 21:04.03 | sumanah | hi paultag! |
| 21:04.15 | sumanah | ok, so the logs from today don't show up until after midnight the server's time - that is okay |
| 21:04.40 | paultag | sumanah: I have lots of logs if you need them |
| 21:05.23 | sumanah | I was nick=gsoc for a little bit today during an info session and wanted to see whether anyone said something to me while someone else was in charge of the computer -- I think Donnie pointed us at a tips page, or something, that my co-presenter put up |
| 21:06.55 | paultag | sumanah: I don't have anyone saying anything to gsoc on #gsoc :( |
| 21:07.10 | paultag | wait |
| 21:07.11 | paultag | I've got two |
| 21:07.12 | scorche|sh | sumanah: that was all |
| 21:07.57 | sumanah | much thanks paultag |
| 21:08.18 | paultag | sure thing! |
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| 21:11.14 | sumanah | paultag: you saw https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/11/lua-templates-faster-more-flexible-pages/ ? |
| 21:11.51 | paultag | sumanah: I didn't! but I did now! Very neat! |
| 21:12.15 | paultag | Haha, can always count on a laugh from SJ's comments :) |
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| 22:36.10 | r0bby_ | sumanah: They gave one link to a blog |
| 22:36.15 | r0bby_ | I'll get it |
| 22:36.20 | sumanah | I got it. |
| 22:36.33 | sumanah | <paultag> 14:32 < dberkholz> gsoc: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/08/contact-early-contact-often.html is a great post |
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| 22:37.22 | r0bby_ | yeh! |
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| 22:37.39 | r0bby_ | I shared that on my school's CompSci page |
| 22:37.49 | sumanah | Good idea. |
| 22:37.50 | r0bby_ | (that was when turned off the projector) |
| 22:38.00 | r0bby_ | I felt nobody neededto see my fb |
| 22:38.10 | r0bby_ | anywhoo back to coding |
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