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| 08:48.48 | raksh_006 | which community(s) integrates mechaincal engineering with coding? (eg scilab and?) |
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| 12:34.56 | kai | virtualenvwrapper is cool bananas |
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| 12:38.26 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Yeah? I'm still a big fan of buildout, pip still hasn't caught up to the feature set yet. |
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| 12:39.13 | kai | MatthewWilkes: but buildout is more about deploying, right? |
| 12:39.30 | kai | at the moment this is a development tool |
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| 12:41.52 | MatthewWilkes | kai: The point is for it to be reproducible. It's usually used for deployment, but it's trivial to use it for installing dependencies, pinning versions, etc too. Similar to pip requirements files but with much more room to expand |
| 12:42.37 | kai | sure, but virtualenvwrapper for me is more like "oh, I want to play with this new thing" |
| 12:43.15 | thebolt | hi kai , MatthewWilkes |
| 12:43.46 | kai | and "mkvirtualenv foobar; pip install foobar" is about as easy as it gets |
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| 12:45.48 | nophiq | Hello, I want to report the email address: "google-summer-of-code-discuss@googlegroups.com" I think it's wrong. My email to you get rejected |
| 12:47.06 | nophiq | I need to send an email, could you please provide me an email address? thanks |
| 12:51.39 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Sure, I do that too, but as I'm so familiar with buildout I have no problem doing "[buildout]\nparts=foo\n[foo]\nrecipe=zc.recipe.egg\negg=foo" then buildout. It's not too much longer and it gets me all the advantages of my global setup for mirroring, caches, etc. I just don't see the point of the bigger features on top of virtualenv when there are better tools around. ymmv. |
| 12:52.49 | kai | MatthewWilkes: fair enough |
| 12:53.17 | kai | nophiq: I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do |
| 12:55.00 | kai | nophiq: I think you need to sign up to google-summer-of-code-discuss before you can send an email there |
| 12:55.48 | nophiq | kai: I want to send an email to GSoC, but my email to google-summer-of-code-discuss@googlegroups.com got rejected because the email address doesn't exist |
| 12:56.30 | nophiq | kai: now I see the problem |
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| 19:37.33 | rihnapstor | i had a doubt,will organizations give first priority to newcomers even if they lack some skills compared to gsoc seniors ? |
| 19:38.02 | carols | rihnapstor: they'll give first priority to those with the most enthusiasm for the project combined with the best proposal. |
| 19:38.14 | Nischayn22 | Good question, I think GSoC is for newcomers so it should be them |
| 19:38.24 | Nischayn22 | ofcourse carols answer is right enough |
| 19:38.38 | gevaerts | Organisations differ |
| 19:38.52 | meflin | I always gave priority to those I thought would become long term contributors |
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| 19:39.30 | marinaz | rihnapstor: if you get started contributing now, you will have a good shot |
| 19:39.39 | rihnapstor | meflin: what if particualr org does its major development ingsoc itself :P |
| 19:40.08 | meflin | rihnapstor: been there done that |
| 19:41.22 | meflin | that is all the more reason for my view ... if gsoc is major dev .. you need those persons to stay on |
| 19:43.15 | rihnapstor | marinaz: i have started with that |
| 19:44.23 | rihnapstor | marinaz: not started with bug fixes yet,but gaining some familiarity with its codebase. |
| 19:44.41 | meflin | this is a very good choice |
| 19:44.52 | rihnapstor | meflin: :) |
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| 20:01.32 | marinaz | rihnapstor: that's a good start! now find some easy bugs to fix and ask for help in the project's IRC channel |
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| 22:59.18 | sadasd` | hi all |
| 22:59.25 | DeNiS_M | hi |
| 22:59.43 | rgap | hi |
| 23:00.04 | sadasd` | does participating in the mailing list of an organization early on affect ones chances in getting selected in gsoc ? |
| 23:00.20 | sadasd` | if yes, how much ? |
| 23:00.23 | mmadia | !chances |
| 23:00.23 | gsocbot | mmadia: "chances" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 23:00.48 | Catfish_Man | sadasd`: what unit would you use to quantify influencing a person's decisions? |
| 23:01.47 | sadasd` | okay |
| 23:07.54 | olasd | Catfish_Man: beers? :D |
| 23:08.08 | Catfish_Man | olasd: a useful unit, but highly nonlinear |
| 23:08.16 | Catfish_Man | and sometimes it just fails entirely |
| 23:08.20 | olasd | of course |
| 23:08.20 | Catfish_Man | cocktails work better on me for example |
| 23:11.42 | summatusmentis | sadasd`: the point is it's hard to say how much, and frankly it's hard to say in what direction |
| 23:12.04 | summatusmentis | if you're the wrong fit for that community, it may significantly negatively impact your chances, for instance |
| 23:12.28 | summatusmentis | but, generally, showing early interest, and showing that you're a good fit for the community will help |
| 23:12.48 | summatusmentis | it gives them a better opportunity to evaluate you prior to needing to make a decision, that's the benefit |
| 23:23.46 | olly | hmm, if it really could have a significant negative effect, I worry about how careful that org is being about their selection process |
| 23:24.18 | sadasd` | thanks everyone |
| 23:26.49 | olly | sadasd`: it's certainly true that being involved early won't guarantee you a place (especially as we don't know which orgs will get selected yet) |
| 23:27.13 | Catfish_Man | olly: well, for example, if a dude I remember that used to be in #macdev and left after calling everyone a bunch of sexist and homophobic insults, showed up as a GSoC candidate... I'd not be inclined to believe he worked well with others |
| 23:27.15 | olly | but it'll likely help |
| 23:27.21 | Catfish_Man | that's an extreme case though ;) |
| 23:33.06 | olly | yeah, i guess I wasn't thinking of being sufficiently antisocial you'd get blacklisted |
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