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| 09:35.13 | me62 | I want to contribute to open source community but don't know where to start and if anyone can lend a helping hand. |
| 09:35.23 | me62 | I would be really greatly. |
| 09:35.34 | me62 | *greatful |
| 09:36.35 | kblin | me62: so what open source projects are you excited about? |
| 09:37.43 | me62 | kblin: I am interested in mozilla |
| 09:38.22 | gevaerts | The way I personally got involved was by fixing bugs I cared about |
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| 09:39.12 | me62 | kblin: actually I have interest in Javascript, HTML5. Can you suggest any other project related to these technologies for a beginner. |
| 09:40.02 | gevaerts | Pick something you use or want to use |
| 09:40.04 | me62 | gevaerts: I tried for hours several times to fix a small bug |
| 09:40.15 | me62 | but reached nowhere |
| 09:40.47 | kblin | did you talk to the devs? |
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| 09:41.27 | gevaerts | The next thing I did was think of a new feature and implement it on the same night the original developer did :) |
| 09:41.28 | kblin | lone-wolf tactics rarely help when developing software, especially if you're just starting on a new codebase |
| 09:41.32 | me62 | kblin: no, I just tried on my own |
| 09:42.49 | me62 | but i don't go to any school or college now. and other co-workers at my workplace aren't really motivated |
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| 09:43.18 | me62 | kblin: how can i connect with devs? |
| 09:43.29 | kblin | well, whatever project you're trying to write the patch for will have a developer community |
| 09:43.44 | kblin | on irc, or a forum, or maybe a social networking site |
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| 09:44.22 | me62 | kblin: ok |
| 09:44.29 | kblin | get in touch with them there, and ask them if they have a bug that might be suitable for a begginer to tackle |
| 09:44.45 | kblin | maybe they even have a mentoring program |
| 09:44.56 | kblin | many larger projects will have something like that |
| 09:45.43 | me62 | kblin: mentoring program sounds nice. do u know any such program (specificaly) ? |
| 09:46.06 | kblin | nope, sorry |
| 09:46.14 | me62 | kblin: ok |
| 09:46.44 | kblin | but the important part is to hang out where the developers of your project of interest hang out |
| 09:47.50 | me62 | k. presently i am using IRC to find helping developers apart from trying on my own |
| 09:48.09 | kblin | sounds like a good plan |
| 09:49.10 | me62 | kblin: :-) |
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| 09:49.26 | me62 | gevaerts |
| 09:50.12 | me62 | gevaerts: Thts really amazing. I should also try to do the same. |
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| 14:04.42 | denials | éwin 17 |
| 14:05.02 | denials | Dang alt keyboard! |
| 14:05.55 | JordiGH | fail 17? |
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| 14:15.30 | denials | JordiGH: fâïl 17, perhaps |
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| 14:16.39 | JordiGH | :-) |
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| 15:23.59 | simonl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.06 | JordiGH | irssi? |
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| 15:24.17 | simonl | yes! :) |
| 15:25.27 | simonl | wonder if there is such a thing as "leading whitespace protection"... most times it's an error, at least for me |
| 15:26.42 | denials | irssi just does that to provoke conversation |
| 15:28.23 | JordiGH | It's more fun when you do |
| 15:28.30 | JordiGH | /msg nickserv identify hunter8 |
| 15:28.59 | simonl | how? Some invisible modifier char or something? |
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| 15:29.42 | simonl | or perhaps there's a command to send it non-interpreted |
| 15:30.09 | simonl | or you're using another client (gasp!) |
| 15:30.26 | JordiGH | The horror! |
| 15:30.44 | JordiGH | I meant when you send the wrong IRC commands and you end up exposing your password. |
| 15:33.31 | simonl | aha, right :) |
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| 16:14.59 | brlcad | anyone getting an internal server error pulling up the "all tasks for my organizations" page? |
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| 16:37.34 | brlcad | files a bug report for the 500 error |
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| 17:23.44 | puckipedia | What is the maximum review time for a task? |
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| 17:30.14 | brlcad | puckipedia: orgs are expected to respond with 36 hours |
| 17:30.23 | brlcad | *within |
| 17:30.42 | brlcad | usually most will respond within a few hours, though |
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| 18:01.20 | rihen | guys is this the google code-in session going on ? |
| 18:01.27 | rihen | i hope it is ? |
| 18:02.44 | mgv | rihen: yes, GCI started on 26 November 2012 and ends on 14 January 2013 |
| 18:02.48 | puckipedia | brlcad: If they don't respond in 36 hours? |
| 18:03.48 | rihen | mgv,thank you!:) i am 20 yr old :) |
| 18:05.03 | rihen | hey Guys are you exposed to vim or emacs editors for writing code? |
| 18:05.12 | mgv | rihen: I use emacs |
| 18:05.38 | mgv | rihen: never used vim, so can't help you with it |
| 18:07.07 | ChrisOelmueller | puckipedia: do you have other means of contacting the respective mentors? |
| 18:07.33 | rihen | mgv, great keep it up!!i am the Vim guy ,i wish i could have done what you people are doing at your age. |
| 18:07.54 | mgv | rihen: :-) |
| 18:09.18 | rihen | mgv, good luck:) |
| 18:09.34 | mgv | rihen: thanks |
| 18:13.42 | puckipedia | ChrisOelmueller: I messaged him on #netbsd-code |
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| 18:58.11 | brlcad | puckipedia: to be certain, you did mark the task as "completed"? |
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| 18:58.50 | brlcad | I've seen some students submit work for a task but skip that step and a mentor might not notice until the time window closes |
| 18:59.18 | brlcad | puckipedia: you should also try commenting on the task since that will usually ping the mentor with an e-mail reminder |
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| 19:12.46 | Darrel | Hmm, guys, I see quite a bit of requests for a leaderboard.. Maybe we students can make a script of our own and run it via Tampermonkey/Greasemonkey (Chrome/Firefox) which will show us the number of tasks done by each student in that org, or something like that? |
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| 19:31.11 | sttaylor | Google has purposely removed the leader board feature as the contest is about pushing yourself to do the best that you can do not to make sure you one up the next student |
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| 20:13.08 | denials | sttaylor: not sure if OSPO is doing a blog wrap-up of the doc sprint, but we (well, kmlussier) wrote up our experience at http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=865 |
| 20:13.17 | denials | (and thanks again!) |
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| 20:37.11 | sttaylor | denials: thank you so much, I'll check out the blog and see if we can get it up on our OSPO blog in the next couple of weeks. |
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| 21:38.13 | allman | We're a quiet bunch today. :) |
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| 22:07.47 | sarbull | hi, where can i see the accepted project of gsoc 2012 ? |
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| 23:47.02 | brlcad | denials: thanks for that |
| 23:47.54 | denials | sttaylor allman brlcad: thanks to all of you, Google has been very supportive of Evergreen and we greatly appreciate it |
| 23:48.39 | sttaylor | denials: you are very welcome. We're glad the doc sprint was such a great success again this year. : ) |
| 23:48.50 | allman | Thank *you* for being a mentoring org. |
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| 23:49.15 | ChrisOelmueller | sttaylor: the students might be concerned about not being in the pool orgs can choose their grand prize winners from mostly i guess |
| 23:49.37 | ChrisOelmueller | one suggestion might be to just allow picking any student that completed one or more tasks for each organization perhaps |
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| 23:50.09 | ChrisOelmueller | that was not worded very well, sorry. :) |
| 23:50.13 | brlcad | denials: I had no part in making the sprint happen, thank you for taking the time to write up your experience -- I'm very interested in hearing how it unfolded for the participants |
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| 23:50.58 | sttaylor | ChrisOelmueller: yes, I'm sure that is the concern. But like most contests the students should do their best not try to do better than the next student. |
| 23:51.39 | brlcad | it's kind of like the new york marathon |
| 23:51.40 | brlcad | everyone doesn't start all at once |
| 23:51.44 | brlcad | you race against the clock |
| 23:52.17 | brlcad | if they do their best, that's enough |
| 23:52.23 | denials | brlcad: yes, given time and less flu I hope to post a personal perspective on the event (as a once-upon-a-time pro technical writer) |
| 23:53.06 | ChrisOelmueller | sttaylor: equivalently orgs might want to reward "best efforts" instead of "best efforts of the top five" |
| 23:53.33 | denials | long story short: great way of breaking down all of the procrastination barriers we writers are so good at building up, and just getting things done. also good bonding experience :) |
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| 23:53.55 | ChrisOelmueller | but that's also literally the only issue i am seeing with this year's instance, all changes were well worth it |
| 23:54.17 | sttaylor | Chris Oelmueller: We are quite happy with the current rules and believe it has generated excellent results thus far. |
| 23:54.38 | brlcad | ChrisOelmueller: would a "top 10" be any better? |
| 23:55.05 | ChrisOelmueller | not really, any number above 1 will cause the competition symptoms we're observing |
| 23:55.27 | brlcad | I saw the 5-limitation as motivation for us to make sure our hardest working and best impacting students are getting hard tasks broken up properly |
| 23:55.38 | brlcad | but it is a competition :) |
| 23:55.56 | ojwb | what sort of numbers of actively engaged students are you seeing? |
| 23:56.50 | brlcad | off the cuff: couple dozen |
| 23:57.00 | brlcad | but some clearly come and go, so some number less |
| 23:57.24 | ojwb | so best 5 isn't a ridiculously small subset |
| 23:58.08 | ChrisOelmueller | the concerned students not necessarily see that though |
| 23:58.18 | brlcad | I don't see a problem with it at this point myself, we don't have a ton of throw-away tasks that are braindead easy |
| 23:58.46 | brlcad | so there's not a student with like 10 tasks completed that were done in a couple days |