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| 01:47.46 | votick | Hey everyone. |
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| 04:22.10 | vultraz | are they doubling the number of grand prize winners this year? someone told me that was the case |
| 04:24.38 | NickFrey | vultraz: yes, this year there are 20 grand prize winners, 2 from each of the 10 participating organizations |
| 04:25.12 | vultraz | ooo |
| 04:25.15 | vultraz | :D |
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| 04:28.54 | devj | Good thing, too! |
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| 04:41.43 | vultraz | so it's basically the 2 people who do the most tasks for each org? |
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| 04:50.17 | ojwb | vultraz: each org nominates two students from the 5 who do the most tasks with them |
| 04:50.32 | ojwb | so it's not just based on quantity |
| 04:52.29 | vultraz | ahhhhhhhh |
| 04:53.07 | vultraz | nominates based on what, BTW? |
| 04:53.19 | vultraz | quality of work? |
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| 04:56.36 | ojwb | i believe that's up to each org to decide |
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| 07:35.56 | votick | Hey everyone. |
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| 08:41.25 | darkapex | What is the irc nick of netbsd mentor Martin Husemann? |
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| 11:41.20 | Nickolay | Hi I am sorry for yesterday |
| 11:41.36 | Nickolay | i claimed but it became too late in my country so I left it for today |
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| 12:41.44 | Guest34518 | Hi! I'm participating in Google Code In first time. I have a question regarding the parental consent form. Currently, I can't print out the form, and then scan the final resulting form, since I don't have access to printer or scanner currently. So is there any alternative way? I mean what if I download the form in pdf form. Then by editing software, get the signature there(done via stylus on a tablet) and other details and then giv |
| 12:44.39 | Guest34518 | if anyone's listening, please reply... |
| 12:45.03 | nihathrael | Guest34518: please be patient |
| 12:45.49 | gevaerts | That really needs an answer from one of the google people. They're very unlikely to be around at this time of day |
| 12:45.54 | gevaerts | I'd recommend sending an email |
| 12:48.38 | Guest34518 | okay! |
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| 13:47.49 | Nickolay | I finished my task guys and I am sorry that i ulpoaded it twice but I had some problems with my Internet:). |
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| 15:03.09 | walterbender | just curious: any other projects seeing a short cycle of claim, release on projects? Is that usual? |
| 15:03.13 | Earthwings | grmbl, melange just ate a longer comment to a task of mine, no error message, nothing |
| 15:09.09 | Earthwings | ah, it's the missing title. If you don't specify a title, melange happily eats comments |
| 15:10.29 | brlcad | walterbender: yep |
| 15:10.42 | brlcad | they give a task a go, quickly get stuck, release |
| 15:11.11 | brlcad | those are probably students just looking for a few easy tasks to get the cert or t-shirt |
| 15:12.06 | |Kev| | Forgive the naivety, being not a GCI person, but is that bad? |
| 15:12.21 | |Kev| | I'd have thought that "claim it, give it a go, fail, quickly release" was a fairly good behaviour. |
| 15:13.43 | Cerlyn | it may also be a sign they do not know how to ask for help |
| 15:14.04 | Cerlyn | or choose not to |
| 15:14.19 | brlcad | |Kev|: "give it a go" is sometimes less than two minutes |
| 15:14.29 | |Kev| | brlcad: Ah. That's not much of a go. |
| 15:14.39 | brlcad | s/sometimes/often/ |
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| 15:16.13 | walterbender | I wasn't condemning the behavior... just trying to understand it |
| 15:16.17 | brlcad | like they claim because the title sounds interesting, we accept, THEN they read the actual description |
| 15:17.51 | |Kev| | Right. I have been told! |
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| 15:55.00 | Nickolay | can you explain me please where should I chage the "not return errors" in my task |
| 15:56.20 | Nickolay | Is there a mentor here ? |
| 15:57.51 | Cerlyn | Nickolay: For which project? |
| 15:58.43 | Nickolay | CALCULATE ACTIVITY ENHANCEMENT 3 |
| 15:59.28 | Nickolay | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8021207 |
| 16:01.44 | Cerlyn | Nickolay: That is with the Sugar project so you probably should join the #sugar IRC channel (/join #sugar). I don't see any development mentors here; I mentor Sugar QA |
| 16:03.28 | Nickolay | the IRc link from the page joinned me here |
| 16:03.36 | Nickolay | so I guessed that it was here |
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| 16:04.55 | Nickolay | Is there mentors here ? |
| 16:04.57 | Cerlyn | Nickolay: Which page has the IRC link? |
| 16:05.05 | Nickolay | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8021207 |
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| 16:05.43 | Cerlyn | ah; that link is for the Google Code In in general |
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| 16:30.00 | Guest21529 | I want to ask about "BRL-CAD" |
| 16:31.44 | brlcad | Guest21529: ask |
| 16:31.56 | brlcad | or hop on over to #brlcad and ask |
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| 17:57.14 | darkapex | is eagerly waiting for his task to be reviewed... |
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| 19:51.34 | brlcad | is happy to share that one of our gci students has already attained commit status through their (pretty much non-stop) effort |
| 19:51.50 | carols | brlcad: that's cool! |
| 19:51.55 | carols | glad to hear :-) |
| 19:52.22 | brlcad | this whole experience is surprising |
| 19:52.29 | brlcad | not what I expected at all |
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| 19:58.58 | djszapi | hi, does melange have a review helper for the patches submitted for GCI? |
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| 19:59.27 | djszapi | it is hard to give inline feedback for a patch what to fix and so forth. |
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| 20:02.11 | ojwb | djszapi: i don't think so |
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| 20:03.20 | brlcad | djszapi: nope |
| 20:03.50 | brlcad | we just waive our hands in the general direction and tell them to fix it |
| 20:03.59 | brlcad | so far that's worked |
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| 20:17.33 | djszapi | brlcad: waive hands in what way? Is there a bugzilla somewhere I can report my wish? |
| 20:17.48 | djszapi | or a more effective communication for this? |
| 20:18.24 | djszapi | the problem is that currently it is the least work if I do not provide feedback, but I adopt the submitted patch myself. |
| 20:18.31 | djszapi | but that is not going to make the student learn. |
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| 20:26.43 | djszapi | perhaps the mentors can encourage the students to use project specific review process, and attach only the "final" result or the last version before the deadline. |
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| 20:32.38 | brlcad | djszapi: that sounds like a possible idea |
| 20:33.12 | brlcad | i meant, however, that we tell them what to fix in their patch notionally (pointing our perverbial finger at places needing to be fixed) |
| 20:33.22 | brlcad | and it's worked well enough |
| 20:33.58 | brlcad | like "that variable you used has a terrible name and your indendation is wrong, you need to work on it a little more" |
| 20:35.53 | djszapi | brlcad: that is fine in case 1-2 issues, but not 5-10+. |
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| 20:38.17 | brlcad | djszapi: I'd tell them "this has a whole lot of wrong with it. please come on IRC so we can discuss." |
| 20:39.02 | brlcad | if they never figuree out how to make their way onto irc, task gets reopened |
| 20:39.08 | brlcad | if they do, a lesson is shared |
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| 20:40.06 | djszapi | heh I will accept the patch either way if the feature works, but it is better for him to learn as much as possible. |
| 20:41.34 | djszapi | but I agree, having a project specific direction is now an approach. Perhaps I can publish that information next for the other tasks already now. |
| 20:44.04 | djszapi | thank you for the help! |
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| 20:52.14 | Blake | I am having a hard time understanting what to do on the tasks |
| 20:52.27 | carols | Blake: have you spoken to the organization about them? |
| 20:54.07 | Blake | No |
| 20:54.32 | carols | Blake: that would be a great place to start. since they wrote the tasks they're the best ones to be able to explain them to you. |
| 20:56.19 | Blake | Ok it was all links but now that i have freenode i understand |
| 20:56.33 | carols | great :-D |
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| 21:19.58 | kblin | carols: hey, you were looking for me yesterday? |
| 21:20.12 | carols | kblin: i was. it's a moot point now, but thanks for checking in :-) |
| 21:20.22 | kblin | ok :) |
| 21:20.59 | kblin | I'm in down under currently, and on the road a lot, so currently email would be a better way to reach me |
| 21:21.13 | carols | no worries, it was just one of those if-you're-around things |
| 21:21.18 | carols | enjoy your trip :-) |
| 21:22.03 | kblin | thanks :) |
| 21:22.12 | gevaerts | Don't fall off the earth! |
| 21:22.39 | kblin | no worries, I've got tape |
| 21:22.49 | gevaerts | Good work :) |
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| 21:25.00 | votick | Hey everyone. |
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| 21:25.19 | carols | hi votick |
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| 21:39.02 | maatt | How are the tasks coming along everyone? :) |
| 21:40.46 | Darrel_ | pretty well, I can say :) |
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| 21:46.48 | sttaylor | topic/ |
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| 21:47.23 | *** topic/#gsoc by sttaylor -> : |
| 21:49.31 | *** topic/#gsoc by sttaylor -> Google Code-in has started! Have fun learning more about open source development! http://www.google-melange.com/ Contest Rules http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2012/terms_and_conditions FAQ's http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2012/help_page |
| 21:49.31 | maatt | Does the certificate show how many tasks we completed? |
| 21:49.44 | carols | maatt: no, simply that you participated |
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| 22:17.34 | maatt | We should make a Wikipedia article for Google Code-In, I just noticed that there is one for GSOC and GHOP but not GCI |
| 22:18.12 | meflin | didn't GHOP become GCI? |
| 22:18.51 | scorche|sh | yes |
| 22:19.21 | meflin | sound like a article name move and some edits to update it |
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