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| 09:02.08 | kai | hm, if an ISP provides neither internet nor service, what do you call it then? |
| 09:02.22 | kai | apart from "pathetic" |
| 09:02.37 | thiago | just P |
| 09:02.42 | sharvey | a provider? |
| 09:02.46 | sharvey | of pain? |
| 09:03.20 | kai | but what do they provide? |
| 09:03.33 | sharvey | pain and suffering |
| 09:03.51 | kai | I mean, if they get neither I nor S, do they still get to keep the P? |
| 09:04.02 | sharvey | they technically provided you with nothing |
| 09:04.03 | sharvey | so |
| 09:04.05 | sharvey | still a provider |
| 09:04.10 | sharvey | just of nothing |
| 09:04.19 | sharvey | they get a capital P because they're a registered company or something |
| 09:04.23 | sharvey | paid money to get that capital P |
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| 14:40.37 | dberkholz | kai: probably free email addresses and small hosted websites. |
| 14:41.13 | kai | right, as if anybody needed more email addresses |
| 14:41.50 | kai | but seems lime my provider decided to finally try the service part |
| 14:42.18 | kai | they sent me an email that they're looking at my DSL outage, a mere 35 hours after I initially reported it |
| 14:43.55 | |Kev| | That was kind of them. |
| 14:43.58 | kai | the trouble is that when looking at the market, they might not be the provider that doesn't suck, but they're likely one of the ones that suck least |
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| 14:44.28 | kai | |Kev|: well, I phoned them again this morning asking about the status. |
| 14:44.45 | kai | which was "oh, that ticket is closed as resolved successfully" |
| 14:44.58 | |Kev| | Well, that was convenient. |
| 14:45.03 | kai | sure |
| 14:45.19 | kai | I'm going to remember that for the next bugzilla bugs I'm assigned |
| 14:45.36 | kai | so instead of "worksforme", I'll close them with "fixed" for a change ;) |
| 14:45.57 | |Kev| | I switched from Be to BT to get Infinity, but the support has been vastly less good since I've done so - I don't think I had a single outage in the time I was with Be, and I've had several with BT, Be had competent support, BT's impossible to fathom, etc. |
| 14:51.02 | kai | well, the guy I was on the phone with this morning claimed their system reported my connection was working... :) |
| 14:51.53 | kai | unfortunately my hardware seems to think different |
| 14:52.14 | kai | and because it's consumer electronics, it hasn't got anything like an error log |
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| 17:30.46 | JordiGH | guise eye nou c++ wat do |
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| 17:45.12 | censorydep | jordiGH, you trying out hooked on phonics? |
| 17:45.17 | censorydep | ;-) |
| 17:45.32 | JordiGH | censorydep: Following the list lately? |
| 17:45.42 | JordiGH | There is a fascinating discussion ongoing. |
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| 17:48.32 | censorydep | ah, no. as a GSOC adjunct, I just hang out in the chat room and poke the regulars now and again. |
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| 17:48.51 | carols | censorydep is an honorary mentor. |
| 17:48.59 | carols | he keeps me sane. |
| 17:49.21 | censorydep | I do my best. :-) |
| 17:49.24 | JordiGH | Oh, this is all on the public list. Anyone can join in the fun: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/4acd6cd53f051f8e |
| 17:49.31 | JordiGH | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/12ec63a8df24e431 |
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| 17:52.41 | matthewwilkes__ | JordiGH: spambots? |
| 17:53.46 | JordiGH | Spambots seem to all have Indian or Pakistani names... But I am not very good at recognising those. |
| 17:54.38 | censorydep | That is definitely odd... unclear on the concept? |
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| 17:56.03 | JordiGH | censorydep: You're unclear on a concept, or the alleged spambots are? |
| 17:57.00 | censorydep | sorry, alleged spambots. I'm being generous and giving them the benefit of the doubt. And/or applying Hanlon's Razor. |
| 17:57.27 | censorydep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor |
| 17:57.49 | JordiGH | Yes, I'm familiar with that razor. |
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| 17:58.36 | censorydep | it's one of my favorites. |
| 17:59.09 | JordiGH | Unfortunately, the pool from which this sample seems to be taken makes me uncomfortable about applying Hanlon's. |
| 17:59.15 | JordiGH | taken from |
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| 18:05.16 | Calcs88 | when should t-shirts arrive? |
| 18:05.56 | carols | Calcs88: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-students-list/IqzK_nRw9b4/bvjJHWHZEY8J |
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| 18:07.07 | Calcs88 | carols: is 30 september worst case scenario, I mean could they arrive earlier? |
| 18:07.22 | carols | Calcs88: sept 30 is best case scenario. |
| 18:08.00 | Calcs88 | carols: I will leave for master studies abroad soon, too bad I will not get to welcome the t-shirt myself :( |
| 18:08.07 | carols | sorry to hear that. |
| 18:08.33 | JordiGH | Can you print your own tee shirt? The logo is under a free license, isn't it? |
| 18:08.42 | Calcs88 | :D |
| 18:08.49 | Calcs88 | I would rather not |
| 18:08.54 | chetan_ | carols: will start |
| 18:08.55 | chetan_ | shipping on or about 3 September to those |
| 18:09.04 | chetan_ | Is that a typo? |
| 18:09.26 | carols | chetan_: shipping starts on various dates. |
| 18:10.22 | chetan_ | carols: Oh. Though that was 30th, since we should submit code by 14th |
| 18:10.27 | chetan_ | Thought* |
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| 18:12.10 | Calcs88 | carols: can we see the t-shirt how it looks? :D |
| 18:12.17 | carols | Calcs88: no. |
| 18:12.22 | Calcs88 | ooooh :D |
| 18:12.40 | dfighter | you will see it when it arrives :O |
| 18:12.53 | dfighter | can't wait |
| 18:13.18 | Calcs88 | carols: gsoc will be here in 2013 also right? |
| 18:13.24 | carols | Calcs88: we don't know yet. |
| 18:13.49 | Calcs88 | carols: hmm any possibility of it being canceled for some reason? |
| 18:14.01 | carols | Calcs88: yes. |
| 18:14.41 | Calcs88 | carols: are you serious? :( but it has been around for years now |
| 18:15.19 | carols | Calcs88: yes, i'm serious. every year we don't know if we'll do it again. every year we have to figure out if we can afford it, if we can accommodate it in our schedules. gsoc is *never* a sure thing. |
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| 18:15.42 | Catfish_Man | always in motion is the future |
| 18:16.06 | Calcs88 | carols: well I guess it all seems easy to us on the outside, but it probably is not ;) |
| 18:16.11 | carols | indeed. |
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| 18:32.08 | JordiGH | Looks like an Eternal September in the mailing list. |
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| 18:32.52 | thiago | summer-discuss? |
| 18:35.37 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
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| 19:56.00 | edsiper | anyone attending the summit but will arrive on October 18th or earlier ? |
| 19:56.08 | spectie | hey edsiper ! |
| 19:56.23 | edsiper | hi spectie ! |
| 19:56.24 | spectie | should POs have arrived yet btw ? |
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| 20:00.19 | edsiper | spectie, i have mine.. |
| 20:00.24 | spectie | hmm |
| 20:00.25 | edsiper | spectie, are you attending before 19th ? |
| 20:00.32 | spectie | ok, perhaps i should email carols |
| 20:00.35 | spectie | edsiper, no |
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| 20:22.56 | kblin | thiago: well, I've been on a umts->wifi->ethernet link for the last few days |
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| 22:59.24 | lfaraone | Is the spreadsheet on the top of http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Travel_Information_2012 supposed to give me an 'access denied' link when I click on it? |
| 23:01.24 | ojwb | lfaraone: for me it says "You need permission to access this item." |
| 23:01.39 | ojwb | which it didn't a few weeks ago when I filled it in |
| 23:01.52 | carols | lfaraone: i fixed it, try it again. |
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| 23:16.31 | lfaraone | carols: same, "You need permission to access this item. |
| 23:17.27 | carols | lfaraone: try the link from my email: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/pJm4T8-_kUk/QuQms8QDpM0J |
| 23:17.37 | carols | #5 |
| 23:18.19 | lfaraone | carols: right, that works. one is a edit-spreadsheet link, the other is viewform. that's probably the issue |
| 23:18.25 | carols | right |
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