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| 07:00.24 | Uzix | Should I write full address (including zip code and street name) in foreign certification form? If yes, why address field so small? :) |
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| 07:10.45 | sharvey | Uzix: I wrote my full address |
| 07:10.55 | sharvey | I have no idea why it is small though |
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| 07:18.57 | muks_ | hi all. i'm a mentor this year, but i don't want to be on the mentors mailing list. i get notified of announcements anyway from the soc organizer. the mentors list discussions have been uninteresting |
| 07:19.17 | muks_ | i have tried unsubscribing two times so far, and while it says i have been unsubscribed successfully, i still get emails |
| 07:19.39 | muks_ | i don't want to be on the list. please can some gsoc staff unsubscribe me? |
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| 07:20.13 | PioneerAxon|PC2 | Can we copy-paste the content of foreign certificates to LIbreOffice and increase the space needed for full address?? |
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| 10:40.14 | MasterD | hello |
| 10:40.22 | snoppy | hola! |
| 10:40.26 | MasterD | in the Foreign Certification Form |
| 10:40.34 | MasterD | what is the printed name? |
| 10:40.40 | MasterD | ola |
| 10:40.42 | MasterD | salutprivet |
| 10:40.45 | MasterD | salut |
| 10:40.46 | MasterD | privet |
| 10:40.49 | snoppy | )) |
| 10:41.01 | snoppy | ukraine or russia? |
| 10:41.03 | MasterD | zdrastvui |
| 10:41.09 | snoppy | priva) |
| 10:41.12 | MasterD | moldova |
| 10:41.15 | snoppy | ) |
| 10:41.20 | MasterD | but i know the russian |
| 10:41.26 | MasterD | and some ukranina words |
| 10:41.37 | snoppy | i'm from Ukraine) |
| 10:41.42 | MasterD | great |
| 10:41.57 | MasterD | which is your project idea? |
| 10:42.07 | MasterD | my name is IURA |
| 10:42.11 | snoppy | Openmrs |
| 10:42.21 | snoppy | logging errors to tha database) |
| 10:42.31 | snoppy | my name is Dmitry) |
| 10:42.44 | snoppy | nice to meet you) |
| 10:42.44 | MasterD | do you know to what referes:what is the printed name? |
| 10:42.52 | MasterD | yes, that is great |
| 10:43.12 | snoppy | it's just first and second name |
| 10:43.30 | snoppy | as i know) |
| 10:43.36 | MasterD | i am doing this: |
| 10:43.37 | MasterD | http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=Tasks/UefiCpuPkg/CpuDxe_MP_support |
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| 10:44.30 | MasterD | what is that discussion about tax forms? |
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| 10:44.35 | MasterD | i have not understood that |
| 10:45.59 | snoppy | yes) |
| 10:46.16 | snoppy | about Foreign Certification Form |
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| 10:46.57 | MasterD | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/studentinfo#tax |
| 10:46.59 | snoppy | I sended it yesterday |
| 10:47.07 | MasterD | i have not understood that |
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| 10:48.19 | snoppy | from you google require only Foreign Certification Form |
| 10:49.03 | MasterD | All students are required to submit a tax form to Google |
| 10:49.17 | MasterD | it says there all students... |
| 10:50.36 | snoppy | If you do not do any work inside the United States, regardless of where else you may do work, only a Foreign Certification Form is required. |
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| 10:51.26 | snoppy | My friend took part on GsoC last year |
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| 10:51.56 | MasterD | Proof of Enrollment |
| 10:52.01 | MasterD | what is that about? |
| 10:52.21 | snoppy | and he said me that we have to send only Foreign Certification Form |
| 10:52.42 | snoppy | copy of your student card |
| 10:55.20 | waldi | MasterD: the student info lists several possibilities. you haven't read it? |
| 10:56.12 | snoppy | the easiest way - it's to scan your student card |
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| 10:56.47 | MasterD | yes |
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| 10:57.03 | MasterD | is there some time limit to send the info? |
| 10:57.10 | flaushy | 18th May |
| 10:57.15 | flaushy | iirc |
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| 11:13.55 | terietor_lab | hello |
| 11:14.06 | flaushy | hej :) |
| 11:14.29 | terietor_lab | Is there any reason for which I shouldn't want the acm membership? |
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| 11:15.56 | flaushy | i have none. I find it quite cool to have one |
| 11:17.01 | terietor_lab | flaushy: thanks |
| 11:17.23 | MasterD | what is acm membership? |
| 11:18.33 | flaushy | MasterD: acm.org If i get it right you get access to many papers as one thing. rebates at conferences as well |
| 11:20.00 | flaushy | MasterD: check the thread on the student mailinglist, i am sure some will point out what good it is :) |
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| 11:45.03 | roccivic | teritor_lab: the bad side of the acm membership is a huge amount of unwanted emails from them |
| 11:45.52 | roccivic | according to some students you can't easily unsubscribe from their mailing list |
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| 11:46.21 | JEEB | at least you can filter that kind of stuff mostly |
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| 11:54.36 | MasterD | can i substitute the subscription with the money paid for it? |
| 11:55.02 | thiago | how do you know there was any money paid for it? |
| 11:55.13 | MasterD | ah yes, |
| 11:55.15 | AmberJ_ | MasterD, I 'guess' no! |
| 11:55.17 | MasterD | you are right |
| 11:55.38 | AmberJ_ | Anyone got ACM membership email yet? |
| 11:55.40 | MasterD | to whom i must send the enrollment documents? |
| 11:55.46 | thiago | if ACM has a deal with Google and gives the memberships for free, you can substitute it for the $0 it was paid with |
| 11:56.05 | AmberJ_ | MasterD, Goto your dashboard and see your TODO list in there. |
| 11:56.09 | roccivic | MasterD: google-melange |
| 11:56.27 | MasterD | ah, i have to upload them to my dashboard? |
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| 11:57.38 | AmberJ_ | MasterD, Scan and upload your docs here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2012#todo |
| 11:58.56 | MasterD | do i have to submit the tax form? |
| 11:59.02 | MasterD | to upload |
| 11:59.04 | MasterD | * |
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| 12:01.00 | ChrisOelmueller | i'm sure carol sent a mail with instructions |
| 12:01.06 | ChrisOelmueller | have you tried looking for that? |
| 12:01.19 | MasterD | i am reading now all the emails |
| 12:01.30 | MasterD | or trying |
| 12:01.33 | MasterD | do do that |
| 12:02.12 | flaushy | the first from carol was the important one :) |
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| 12:09.34 | MasterD | "Please keep in mind that I cannot provide tax or legal advice to you. It is both illegal and unethical. If you have questions about these types of situations please consult a tax attorney or a lawyer. " |
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| 12:10.01 | MasterD | but is that obbligatory to submit some kind of document about taxes? |
| 12:10.19 | thiago | yes |
| 12:10.33 | thiago | at the very least a document saying you're not living in the US and not subject to the IRS |
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| 12:17.05 | MasterD | so if i am not living in the usa i am obbliget to give such kind of ducumneT? |
| 12:18.21 | MatthewWilkes | MasterD: If you are not a US citizen, are not living in the US and have nothing else to do with the US then all you need is the foreign certification form |
| 12:18.34 | MasterD | ok |
| 12:18.36 | MasterD | thanks |
| 12:18.45 | MatthewWilkes | I'm sure you got emails about it |
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| 12:18.48 | |Kev| | *For Google* |
| 12:18.55 | |Kev| | You will still need to comply with local tax laws. |
| 12:19.10 | |Kev| | Whatever they may be. |
| 12:19.23 | MasterD | yes, but english is not 1 language, so some things are not very clear for me |
| 12:19.40 | MatthewWilkes | True, for the UK for example that means registering as self employed, getting the small earnings exemption for NI, then doing a tax return, for example. It's not insignificant. |
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| 12:26.41 | MasterD | ok, thank you all for the provided info |
| 12:26.43 | MasterD | have good day |
| 12:26.46 | MasterD | ciao |
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| 16:45.39 | mdim | has anyone given a thorough look at the ACM student membership? |
| 16:46.05 | mdim | I'm reading about it at https://www.acm.org/membership/membership/student/benefits now |
| 16:46.31 | mdim | what I'm most interested in is access to research papers that are behind ACM pay-wall/membership-wall |
| 16:47.00 | mdim | so, does ACM student membership cover full access to all the papers published through ACM? |
| 16:48.21 | Triskelios | no, you need a Digital Library subscription to read journal articles |
| 16:49.43 | mdim | really? So what's the use of being a member except for receiving a lot of emails and legitimizing ACM? |
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| 16:52.56 | Triskelios | CACM, SIG membership |
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| 16:53.20 | Triskelios | discounts for publications and events? |
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| 16:55.06 | mdim | I guess it'll be paid by my school anyway |
| 16:55.52 | Triskelios | looks like student membership also gets online book access, although not from Safari |
| 16:56.07 | mdim | oh, so it's browser-dependent? |
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| 16:57.22 | Triskelios | er, no, Safari is an online book archive affiliated with O'Reilly |
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| 17:01.13 | Triskelios | student membership gives you access to Books24x7's library only |
| 17:01.18 | mdim | is there a straigthforward list of what one gets and doesn't get with student membership? |
| 17:02.34 | Triskelios | I think the list you linked is reasonably comprehensive |
| 17:02.47 | Triskelios | where it says "the option to" is not included |
| 17:04.36 | mdim | what's the frequency of emails one receives due to student membership? |
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| 17:11.49 | Triskelios | I think the most frequent thing I got during my student membership was one of the twice-weekly newsletters which I later canceled |
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| 17:21.32 | Triskelios | hm, my professional ACM membership seems to have access to the DL despite not having explicitly subscribed to it |
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| 17:38.28 | vipulnsward | !logs |
| 17:38.28 | gsocbot | vipulnsward: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 17:39.06 | Stepan777 | will we get package tracking numbers? |
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| 17:42.14 | AmberJ_ | Stepan777, iirc, Carol said no. |
| 17:43.55 | weltallAnd | Didn't get one last year |
| 17:44.23 | sharvey | Triskelios: student vs professional acm membership are different iirc? |
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| 17:48.26 | AmberJ_ | Did anyone got ACM student membership email for GSoC 2012? |
| 17:48.27 | AmberJ_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.11 | nischayn22 | Isn't that included in the package they sent? |
| 17:51.12 | AmberJ_ | nischayn22, iirc, Carol put in her welcome email that we'll receive an email from ACM... |
| 17:51.30 | nischayn22 | AmberJ_: Oh, thanks for reminding |
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| 17:52.51 | Triskelios | sharvey: yeah. DL subscription is optional for both, though |
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| 17:53.36 | sharvey | many universities provide subscription to DL |
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| 23:30.05 | xth1 | is there someone from Brazil here? |
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| 23:31.52 | MatthewWilkes | excuse me for being presumptuous, you may not be about to ask this, but based on the questions we've seen a lot recently I think theres a good chance |
| 23:32.11 | MatthewWilkes | xth1: If you need help doing a local tax form then contact your local tax office, we can't give tax advice in here |
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| 23:32.35 | MatthewWilkes | if you need help with what tax form google wants from you as a non-USian, they want the foreign certification form |
| 23:38.11 | xth1 | MatthewWilkes: Foreign Certification Form replaces Tax Form? |
| 23:41.28 | libotte | for those who live outside USA, i think so |
| 23:44.24 | MatthewWilkes | xth1: 'Tax form' means either 1) A US tax form or 2) A foreign certification form |
| 23:44.45 | MatthewWilkes | you send #1 if you pay US tax, #2 if you do not pay US tax |
| 23:45.28 | isaacbw | !amc |
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| 23:58.32 | xth1 | MatthewWilkes: thanks |
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