IRC log for #gsoc on 20120423

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15:04.49*** topic/#gsoc is http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information.
15:04.51savy2020!countdown
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15:04.52gsocbotsavy2020: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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15:06.50hsrkai, can I bring in one of my eggdrop instances here?
15:06.58kaihsr: why?
15:07.21hsri have this timer script, counts down to a specific time
15:07.38kaithat sounds annoying
15:07.39hsr!timer or such gives the remaining time to a preset one
15:07.44simonlI don't think that is a good idea
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15:08.09hsr:(
15:08.11hsr:okayface:
15:08.11simonlah, might be fine if it is manual
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15:08.26simonlkai decides :)
15:08.31hsrpubmsg triggered
15:08.49|Kev|simonl: Manual sounds even worse.
15:09.05|Kev|!timer !timer !timer !timer !timer !timer !timer !timer !timer !timer!timer !timer !timer !timer !timer!timer !timer !timer !timer !timer etc. etc. etc.
15:09.07simonl|Kev|: really?
15:09.20TedTedTedTed!timer
15:09.26hsr|Kev|, ah don't worry about that
15:09.40hsrit has flood protect iirc
15:09.44hsrbut nvm
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15:12.01kaiI just don't see the value of having that in here
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15:12.44kaipeople should just use a timer website
15:12.59thgil!countdown
15:13.00gsocbotthgil: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
15:13.11gevaertsMaybe we should have one of those old-fashioned x-by-mail services that replies with the remaining time :)
15:13.12kairight, like that one
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15:13.31kaigevaerts: no, you need something more web2.0
15:13.39kailike a script that watches a twitter feed
15:13.48kaiand then tweets back the remaining time
15:13.54gevaertsAh, yes
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15:14.07kaiheck, we should go and build a startup doing this
15:14.21MatthewWilkesor a single purpose wearable computing device with an audible signal for the deadline being reached?
15:14.27kaiI fail to see the business model, but that never stopped twitter itself either
15:14.37kaiMatthewWilkes: right
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15:14.44kaibut only if it has lots of blue leds
15:14.52kaiwhich my lab timer hasn't
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15:15.04chemhacki have a countdown app on my bluetooth watch
15:15.13hsrI made a count down timer with a 55 timer IC, in seconds
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15:15.18hsrapparently
15:15.23hsrit never worked
15:15.23gevaertskai: https://github.com/muffinista/chatterbot will help
15:15.24hsr:s
15:15.28chemhacklol
15:15.45simonllets make a gsoc countdown os for raspberry pi :)
15:16.05dsathean os for a countdown ! :D
15:16.07gevaertsA countdown *os*?
15:16.14simonlyes
15:16.20chemhacki'd rather like a proposal generator
15:16.22sol0simonl: lol
15:16.26gevaertsYou don't even need context switching for that!
15:16.27simonleasily distributable with mail
15:16.29dsathei just get a watch with a timer !
15:16.50simonlnon-email mail, that is. On an SD card :D
15:17.02kaigevaerts: ew, ruby ;)
15:17.12hsranother idea would be a site where you can buy timers
15:17.16gevaertskai: I'd say ruby suits this idea perfectly :)
15:17.34dsatheafaik hsr most watches have a countdown timer ,
15:17.38hsr*our timers are 1 second faster than any others in the market*
15:17.41dsatheor use a desklet
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15:17.55kaigevaerts: yeah, sad, but true
15:18.04dsathelol
15:18.05hsrdsathe, sad, but true, I don't use watches :(
15:18.10hsr:O
15:18.18dsathewow ok mobile phone ???
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15:18.29kaioh.. or we go all old school
15:18.39dsathealarm clock \o/
15:18.43hsrdsathe, I think I have one
15:18.53hsrbut no timer
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15:18.57OliverUvhttp://e.ggtimer.com/2%20hours%2012%20minutes
15:18.58hsrs60v3
15:19.00hsr:(
15:19.01OliverUvthere you have a timer
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15:19.13kaijust build a device that pours a specified amount of drops into a bowl
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15:19.22dsathekai wins :D
15:19.26hsr*vodka drops
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15:19.43dsathebackdated an alarm clock by a millenium
15:19.44dsathe:D
15:20.14hsrrainmeter ftw
15:20.21visitoresay that again
15:20.24kaiuntil you've got that one calibrated, you should have the result email in your inbox
15:20.25hsrnow I have a huge timer on my desktop :p
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15:21.01Jibeshhsr-Windows widget ??
15:21.14simonlI think I'll just do the easy thing and watch this channel ^^
15:21.27visitoregood call
15:21.29dsatheif you really want to complicate it how about use a radio pulse , bounce it of the surface of krypton, make adjusts for red shifts and atmospheric disturbances , consider the effect of blackholes and relativity and then , take a frequency/phase differential and tune it so it goes off on 1900 utc on 23 march 2012 :)
15:21.36dsatheapril*
15:21.57dsatheor use  a clock app :)
15:22.02MatthewWilkesor a watch!
15:22.07shanapffff
15:22.07hsrJibesh, it's a script for Rainmeter
15:22.11MatthewWilkesPeople, clocks exist in real life!
15:22.14ogzy!next
15:22.15gsocbotogzy: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
15:22.15dsathe+1
15:22.16MatthewWilkescries quietly
15:22.19visitoreyou're kdding, rihgt
15:22.21simonldsathe: It would be fairly awesome if you could make it go off in march IMO
15:22.23shananonsense!
15:22.30shanathe clock is a lie
15:22.30dsathehaha you bet
15:22.41hsrclocks lie
15:22.47jcalvinowensA watched pot never boils...
15:22.52dsathebots dont ?
15:23.00hsrwhy do you boil pot
15:23.05hsryou're supposed to
15:23.06Jibeshhsr: can you share the name ..need it badly !!
15:23.07hsroh
15:23.08hsrnvm
15:23.18hsrJibesh, google it lol
15:23.23Jibeshfine
15:24.13hsraww don't be sad man, http://customize.org/rainmeter/skins/64518
15:24.20hsredit the font sizes
15:24.27hsrand you're done
15:24.33dsathebah rainmeter :/
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15:24.38Jibeshthanks a lot
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15:24.47ogzy!learn factoids
15:24.47gsocbotogzy: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
15:25.08dsatheconky ftw !
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15:25.26Jibeshhsr: looks super cool 8-)
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15:25.34hsrnot mine lol
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15:25.52Jibeshya i know
15:26.04Jibeshbut still 10/10 for searching it
15:26.14bsrkadityawhat is learn?
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15:26.42Jibeshgoogle it mate :-)
15:26.48hsrwhat is to learn?
15:26.57Jibeshexactly lol
15:26.59dsatheloads i reckon
15:27.08hsrpointless are the knowledge we seek
15:27.16bsrkadityaI mean learn in context of irc commands.
15:27.28hsryou learn irc commands
15:27.42Jibesh:-P
15:27.54dsathewe all did at some point didn't we
15:28.21Jibeshexactly ...and still do
15:28.30Jibeshno limit of learning :-)
15:28.31ofan!next
15:28.32gsocbotofan: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
15:29.28hsrgsocbot should say next is for students, which in case should be : keep ...
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15:29.42hsr:p
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15:30.10dsathehsr the bot is right ! read for god's sake
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15:30.49Jibeshany last minute impressing tips !!
15:30.57MatthewWilkesJibesh: Fix a bug
15:31.02dsathe:)
15:31.11gevaertsOr fix *two* bugs
15:31.16hsrsomeone was talking about something here
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15:31.20hsr>_>
15:31.20gevaertsAnd if you can't, introduce one first
15:31.21hsr<_<
15:31.26thgil^_^
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15:31.47Jibeshthanks
15:31.53ofangevaerts: nice tip
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15:32.13MatthewWilkesgevaerts: Sometimes rock box doesn't work on my phone, fix pl?
15:32.15MatthewWilkespls*
15:32.19bsrkaditya!learn t1 as t2
15:32.19gsocbotbsrkaditya: "t1" is t2
15:32.29bsrkaditya!t1
15:32.30gsocbotbsrkaditya: "t1" is t2
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15:32.31MatthewWilkesThere must be a rock box student that wants to impress gevaerts by impressing me?
15:32.39MatthewWilkes!forget t1
15:32.39gsocbotMatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded.
15:32.39hsrhere we go
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15:32.42gevaertsMatthewWilkes: sure. Send me your phone and I'll get on to it
15:33.00visitorelearn ! as -
15:33.11hsrwhat is a rock box?
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15:33.22Jibesha rock in a box
15:33.27hsrvisitore, I see what you did there
15:33.29visitore:-~~~~~~~
15:33.30dsathewww.rockbox.org
15:33.49visitore!test
15:33.49gsocbotvisitore: "test" is (#1) test1234, or (#2) test12345, or (#3) test 1, or (#4) test 1
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15:33.56visitorehaha
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15:34.20hsrgevaerts, Y U NO zune?
15:34.25sfbhahah
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15:34.42gevaertsis unsure what hsr is talking about
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15:34.46MatthewWilkesgevaerts: I can send you a VM?
15:34.48dsathewe have windows fans in the house zune, rainmeter et al :D
15:34.55dsathesorry M$
15:35.03sfbI for one really like Rockbox.
15:35.10sfbAnd it hasn't bricked any of m y players yet.
15:35.20dsathelooks very interesting must try !
15:35.31hsrgevaerts, there was a pmp named zune
15:35.34MatthewWilkessfb: It debricked one of mine
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15:35.45dsathehsr get the hint
15:35.47sfbMatthewWilkes: Nice! Reverse bricking.
15:35.54gevaertshsr: I know that bit. I just have no idea what Y U NO is supposed to mean
15:35.57hsroh the irony
15:36.00sfbI remember during the trolling session someone bricked a player with Rockbox.
15:36.09hsrah I see
15:36.16gevaertssfb: that was MatthewWilkes trolling
15:36.25hsrit's a popular meme, is funny for some people
15:36.26sfbgevaerts: It was perfect.
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15:36.48MatthewWilkessfb: It was scorche too! We were laughing too much
15:37.01gevaertshsr: the zune is not supported because nobody did the necessary work
15:37.07gevaertsThat's all there is to it :)
15:37.25hsrwell, MS is dumping the zune suite too
15:37.28hsrso much hate
15:37.31hsr:(
15:37.33sfbI remember the first time I met scorche, kai introduced me and he finally says "I'm scorche, from IRC" and I said "Ohhhhh. Gotcha." He says, "Wait... what did I say to you on IRC?"
15:37.48gevaertsdid manage to brick the bluetooth controller in his laptop while working on rockbox
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15:38.31sfbgevaerts: How did you manage to do that?
15:38.36hsrbluetooth is a b$$$$
15:39.00hsrnever on when needed
15:39.10hsralways on on low battery
15:39.42hsrI heard there were v3.0 circulating
15:39.58rohan!next
15:39.59gsocbotrohan: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
15:40.05gevaertssfb: easy. I needed a DFU firmware upload tool, so I tried a few random ones. Turns out one of them was really only meant for bluetooth controllers so instead of uploading rockbox to this player it uploaded it to the bluetooth controller
15:40.35gevaertsAnd apparently there isn't too much sanity checking in that chain
15:40.59MatthewWilkesgevaerts: So… your bluetooth controller is running rockbox?
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15:41.35gevaertsMatthewWilkes: this is the laptop I later spilled water on, so it's not very active these days :)
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15:42.04gevaertsApart from that, well, it has some rockbox code installed, but this was early code that didn't really work anyway
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15:42.48hsrI saw the word apple somewhere on your site, gevaerts
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15:42.58hsrdid they sue you at some peiod?
15:43.04hsr*period
15:43.06JordiGHI hope dedicated music players don't go away.
15:43.16gevaertshsr: no. Why should they?
15:43.28hsrit's the trend now it seems
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15:43.37JordiGHInstead of these ultraportable computers people call "telephones".
15:44.17hsrthere was a time when we used telephones to connect to the internet
15:44.22gevaertshsr: rockbox isn't a threat to anyone and doesn't have money, so...
15:44.29hsrwe call it the birth of dubstep
15:45.05hsrgevaerts, I think I have used your software long ago
15:45.19hsris it old enough for >5 yrs
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15:45.55gevaertsRockbox started in late 2001
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15:46.10gevaertsI wasn't there then though
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15:46.26hsrhmm
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15:46.43kaiI still use telephones to connect to the internet
15:46.44sanket!countdown
15:46.45gsocbotsanket: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
15:46.50rohanHas anyone here used HipHop for PHP?
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15:46.56hsrkai, adsl?
15:47.30kaiUMTS
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15:49.28harshrohan yes me
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15:50.22d34th4ck3r!time
15:50.22gsocbotd34th4ck3r: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things.
15:50.53d34th4ck3r!next
15:50.54gsocbotd34th4ck3r: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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16:00.52kaihey cat
16:00.59hsr3 hours
16:01.02hsr:p
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16:01.20hiddenpearlshard to wait :)
16:01.33kaitime to get to theatre, later folks
16:01.39|Kev|kai: Enjoy.
16:01.50|Kev|hiddenpearls: Both pausing time and time travel are considerably harder.
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16:02.51hsrUnless you loop the timetravel to the current time
16:02.53bow_!next
16:02.54gsocbotbow_: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
16:03.39MatthewWilkesallman! All ready for the fun to start?
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16:03.56prazubershould've submitted time travel project... too bad it's hard to find a mentor for that one
16:04.12allmanMathewWikes: Define "fun"?  ;-)
16:04.34MatthewWilkesallman: Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet? Is it nearly time yet?
16:04.41allmankai: morning!
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16:04.50ankitdafprazuber , i would've loved to do a teleportation project to help you find a mentor for your time travel project
16:05.07allmanLOL!  I hate you but I'm laughing.
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16:05.53simonlso far it is more "Only X hours, Y minutes remaining"
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16:06.33rohanhi ankitdaf, I'm Rohan, Pushkar, Suhail and Sarthak's friend
16:06.40simonlhowever, now that it's only 2 hours, 53 minutes remaining that might change
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16:08.38SinnerShanky!countdown
16:08.39gsocbotSinnerShanky: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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16:09.32MatthewWilkesallman: This is what you get for allowing me to stick around here even though I'm not involved this year.  Trolling.
16:09.52ankitdaf!sudo
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16:10.04gevaertsthinks MatthewWilkes has the right idea there
16:10.06allmanMathewWilkes: You may call it trolling but I call it helping. Should I be worried?
16:10.34|Kev|allman: Yes.
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16:10.54allman[Kev]: noted  :)
16:11.00Miadoviany GSOCers from Algeria ? :)
16:11.04buffyg_laptopJust beware the results you might get if you ask him to update your wikipedia page.
16:11.26Miadovior North Africa :)
16:11.35allmanYou all are cracking me up this morning. Perhaps there was something in the coffee....
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16:12.07|Kev|allman: Perhaps you've caught the students' nervous energy.
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16:12.45allman[Kev]: that must be it. I am nervous - it's hard to wait.
16:13.07simonlThat could power a space ship during launch
16:13.16gevaertsMiadovi: there definitely have been some people from North Africa in gsoc. I know one of our former students is from Egypt. No idea about this year though, although I'd be surprised if you were the only one :)
16:13.17simonl* as least *
16:13.19downey!countdown
16:13.21gsocbotdowney: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
16:13.27simonlis going to try to calm down now
16:13.30downeygrins & ducks
16:13.46wakeupsidWhat is the chance of getting selected if you already got that "Congratulations!" mail? ;)
16:13.52allmandowney: don't hurt any ducks
16:13.53|Kev|!odds | wakeupsid
16:13.53gsocbotwakeupsid: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead.
16:14.07gevaerts!emails | wakeupsid
16:14.07gsocbotwakeupsid: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now.
16:14.24gevaerts\_0<
16:14.28gevaerts\_o<
16:14.32MatthewWilkesI wonder if we could write a bot that automates us telling the bot what to say?
16:14.38wakeupsidOh!
16:14.42gevaerts>o_X_o<
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16:15.04gevaertslikes ducks
16:15.07JordiGHAny clues whom to ask questions about loop unrolling?
16:15.10MatthewWilkesyep, they're delicious
16:15.11atermenjia bot's bot?
16:15.30downeymetabot
16:15.30allmanMathewWilkes: I think that causes a wormhole
16:15.44MatthewWilkesatermenji: Is that like a gentleman's gentleman?
16:15.53simonlJordiGH: ask on any channel relating compilation :)
16:15.55|Kev|Closely followed by an earlybird hole.
16:16.01MatthewWilkeshehe
16:16.02allmansnigger
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16:16.08atermenjiMatthewWilkes: really not sure
16:16.11simonlmono, gcc, llvm
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16:19.26JordiGHI actually would expect people who have written a considerable amount of Fortran in their lives to know a lot about loop unrolling.
16:19.37JordiGHLet me try in llvm...
16:20.13sfbLooks like work is sending me to CSM training.
16:20.15sfbThat'll be fun.
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16:23.34masqueradeJordiGH: what do you need to know about loop unrolling?
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16:24.45davorbumm, most modern compilers usually do that for you
16:24.50JordiGHBut not by default.
16:24.53MatthewWilkesZOMG SO FAST
16:24.57MatthewWilkesWHT R UR CFLAGS?
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16:25.11JordiGHmasquerade: Well, is it still worth it? It seems like one of the most basic optimisation techniques. It will take me a while to rebuild and test, so I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer.
16:25.41simonl-O999 -funroll-loop -fomg-optimize
16:25.48davorbJordiGH: have you tried enabling the optimization options in your compiler first? unless you're using a super old/sucky one, it won't be worth it imho.
16:25.54masqueradeIt's certainly worth it, even with branch prediction any hotloop that can be unrolled increases cache effectiveness many times over
16:26.14buffyg_laptopMatthewWilkes: I love ricerOS!
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16:26.28MatthewWilkessimonl: http://funroll-loops.info
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16:26.40MatthewWilkesbuffyg_laptop: I did a stage1 install once, then decided to buy a mac.
16:26.40JakeDustmasquerade: I've heard that excessive loop unrolling (i.e. -funroll-loop) actually causes *more* cache misses.
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16:26.51JordiGHsimonl: This is low-level numerical code, the right place to do ricing.
16:26.55simonlMatthewWilkes: yep, I ripped it off from memory :)
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16:27.25MatthewWilkessimonl: :D
16:27.26JordiGHdavorb: I guess I'll just recompile. I wanted some avuncular advice, that's all.
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16:27.40masqueradeJakeDust: If yo are too agressive and you make the unrolled body larger than your cache line, it can hurt performance
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16:27.57masqueradebut modern compilers are smart enough to adjust the number of loop unrolls such that it remains within a cacheline
16:28.09buffyg_laptopMatthewWilkes: Does macports ship packaged FOSS for OS X yet?
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16:29.29JordiGHmasquerade: So is the common wisdom to not unroll loops manually, because compilers can do a better job than I can?
16:29.37MatthewWilkesbuffyg_laptop: a combination of macports and homebrew is usually enough, I compile a few things from source if it's unusual or I need the actual source to be fiddlable
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16:30.11masqueradeJordiGH: unless you are quite experienced with assembly, know which CPU your code is targetting very well, and are using some crazy vectorization, the compiler probably knows better
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16:30.31davorbagreed
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16:31.20masqueradex264 is one of the few places left where their hand-tuned assembly is going to beat a compiler every time, but they actually have dedicated handwritten assembly for each and every additional set of instructions and do runtime CPU detection
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16:32.18buffyg_laptopMatthewWilkes: I suppose it's less watching paint dry and grass grow then building your OS from source, but don't you find that watching stuff scroll by teaches you so much about OS development?
16:33.58MatthewWilkesbuffyg_laptop: I believe even gentoo doesn't support stage1 anymore…
16:34.21ekanshpragya_: hi
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16:36.08JordiGHmasquerade: Okay, some dude rewrote some code in Fortran only to manually unroll loops in our code, and I was trying to defer to his experience (he's a big Fortran user).
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16:38.28masqueradeJordiGH: perhaps it makes sense in fortran compilers, I have no idea how modernized they are :)
16:38.51JordiGHgfortran uses the same backend as gcc.
16:38.53masqueradeBut realistically it's probably a habit from the darker ages of stupider compilers
16:38.55JordiGHaiui
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16:40.19JordiGHmasquerade: Do you think using saxpy instructions still makes a lot of sense nowadays?
16:40.25JordiGHOr gaxpy, whatever.
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16:40.58masqueradeBLAS stuff almost always makes sense
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16:41.26qballer!next
16:41.27JordiGHIn the reference BLAS, all that daxpy does is some manual loop unrolling, though: http://www.netlib.org/blas/daxpy.f
16:41.27gsocbotqballer: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
16:41.29masqueradeThe amount of tuning that goes into the various BLASes makes my head nearly explode :)
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16:43.20masqueradeJordiGH: do you guys always use the same BLAS across multiple machines though?
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16:44.10zatix!next
16:44.11gsocbotzatix: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
16:44.17zatix!logs
16:44.17gsocbotzatix: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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16:45.02JordiGHI guess some other BLAS might do something better? I should have said, he just rewrote this in Fortran so he could directly call saxpy operations.
16:45.17JordiGHmasquerade: No, we don't recommend any particular BLAS (as long as it's free).
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16:47.12masqueradeThe vendor supplied BLASes should always be faster than what a compiler will do
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16:49.04masqueradewikipedia says you guys use ATLAS and not LAPACK, so definitely consider that what you read in terms of implementation at netlib is usually from 20 years ago :)
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16:50.08JordiGHWikipedia is full of lies, let me go fix that.
16:50.32dzhushow much?
16:50.34masqueradeIt's on the ATLAS page
16:50.36dzhusis till deadline
16:50.51JordiGHWe don't use anything. People regularly compile Octave with both ATLAS and OpenBLAS. We also use LAPACK, of course. Some people might even be using the reference BLAS.
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16:51.45JordiGHbrb switching proxy
16:52.00masquerade!timer
16:52.04masquerade!countdown
16:52.05gsocbotmasquerade: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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16:52.12masqueradedzhus: ^^
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16:52.32dzhuszomg SOC LOSE
16:52.37dzhus*so close
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16:53.15JordiGHmasquerade: Where did you see in Wikipedia that Octave doesn't use LAPACK?
16:53.30masqueradeIt just says that you guys use ATLAS
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16:53.47masqueradeWhich I guess may technically be true, but the wording just made me think that you guys shipped with ATLAS or something
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16:53.52JordiGHATLAS is a BLAS, a dependency of LAPACK.
16:54.08Miadoviis there anyway to see SOC winners by country ?
16:54.19JordiGHHeh, "winners".
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16:54.30Miadoviselected students ;)
16:54.34downey|away!polls | Miadovi
16:54.34gsocbotMiadovi: "polls" is Please don't use #gsoc to do polls.
16:54.48Miadovinot a poll :)
16:55.03abeer2 hours to go. Just be out with them already.
16:55.15myth17I am scared! :|
16:55.18myth17haha
16:55.23shibulijack2 more hours!! It's already midnight in here
16:55.27scorchesfb: =)
16:55.28SukhEMiadovi: There will be a blog post about that later.
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16:55.35shibulijackis freaking out
16:55.51JakeDustMiadovi: AFAIK, there'll be something like that, as I've seen statistics around the internet for the last years
16:55.54myth17Soon the channel will be on mute!
16:55.54myth17lol
16:55.57JordiGHlol
16:56.13scorcheand for the record, we never bricked anyone's device with Rockbox at the summit durign the trolling session - we just made MatthewWilkes's phone unusable for a bit  ;)
16:56.14shibulijackWill the accepted students get mail exactly at 12:30 or something?
16:56.23MiadoviSukhE, yeah but my country will be with "rest of world". Noway to know which students from say Algeria were selected ?
16:56.32scorcheshadeslayer: you have waited this long - a bit more wouldnt hurt  ;)
16:56.38myth17shibulijack: the students who don't get through get a mail around 12:29
16:56.44shadeslayerwhut
16:57.01myth17lol
16:57.03shibulijackOmg! I shouldn't get a mail at 12:29!!!
16:57.09MatthewWilkesscorche: :)
16:57.31myth17Thanks for Applying vs Congratulations!
16:57.35MatthewWilkesshibulijack: No, not exactly. The emails take time to send, you'll get an email around 12:30
16:57.36shadeslayerhehe, GSoC result time?
16:57.37klocatelliwait I thought acceptance was announced at 12 not 12:29 :S
16:57.42klocatelliah
16:57.47MatthewWilkesklocatelli: I assume that's a timezone thing
16:57.50shadeslayerI probably have the mail from last year lying around
16:58.21klocatelliwell I'm assuming 12 PDT/19 UTC... but idk of a timezone where 19 UTC -> 12:30 :/ so, confused
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16:58.40shibulijackMatthewWilkes: thanks :)
16:58.43dsathelol IST it is
16:58.49shibulijackyep
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16:58.56Sharkashdsathe: 00:30 actually
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16:59.09dsatheyes
16:59.11iElectricah, DST
16:59.15iElectricthe joy
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16:59.18dsatheDST ?
16:59.34Miadoviwe get mails on 19:00UTC, right ?
16:59.35galaxyAbstractorhates timezones, they are confusing :<
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16:59.44iElectricMiadovi: yes
16:59.45|Kev|Miadovi: Or thereabouts, sometime, ish.
16:59.45shibulijackhates them too
17:00.02galaxyAbstractor18:59:59 here now lol
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17:00.15MatthewWilkesklocatelli: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B05:30
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17:00.19iElectricgalaxyAbstractor: but you are not UTC-1?
17:00.26galaxyAbstractorutc+2
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17:00.52iElectricMatthewWilkes: you are also in asia? :o
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17:01.02klocatelliwell that's terribly confusing, lol
17:01.13dsatheuse UTC pleeeease
17:01.20abeerAnybody here who has applied under LibreOffice?
17:01.22MatthewWilkesiElectric: No, no, I'm in Bristol, I'm just schooling people on timezones
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17:01.37MatthewWilkesiElectric: Here to watch or id you apply somewhere?
17:01.49iElectricah, then you also missed asian hackerspace tour
17:01.54iElectricyeah, waiting for ersults
17:02.00iElectric@ pyramid
17:02.23MatthewWilkesiElectric: Awesome. Just remember, we had you first, no slinking off to play with mcdonc when there are plone bugs to fix.
17:02.27mbabkerheh, you think UTC+05:30 is confusing (it messed me up when i was in a :30 time zone for a year), imagine if you lived in bombay in the early 1900s… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B04:51
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17:02.44iElectricMatthewWilkes: roger ;)
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17:03.16tishan89amen UTC+05:30 is confusing
17:03.17iElectricquick run to Montjuic, then I might code actually
17:03.19dsathenah
17:03.22dsathewas sleeping
17:03.31dsathegot up to soak in the frenzy :D
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17:03.42mayanks43yeah this frenzy is awesome
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17:03.49dsathesure is
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17:03.57mayanks43can't miss it
17:04.02dsathewait see room participants join in
17:04.07shibulijackall the selected applicants will be put up in the site right? will that be exactly at 19:00 UTC?
17:04.14mayanks43yup
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17:04.33galaxyAbstractoris eating sourcream & onion chips while waiting
17:04.34MatthewWilkesmbabker: We had UTC-00:10 until 1880
17:04.35dsatheooh the anxeity is adrenaline , tension so think you could cut it :D
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17:04.41tishan89Will the selected participants get mails
17:04.52mayanks43yes @ tishan89
17:05.24dsathewhat you hacking now mayank ?
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17:05.26mayanks43nothing
17:05.31mayanks43coursera courses
17:05.36MatthewWilkesmbabker: Actually, not even that, there was a seconds offset too, apparently. We still have a couple of clocks with two hands, one for local time, one for london time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Exchangeclock.JPG
17:05.46dsatheor just sitting in for a front view of proceedings
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17:05.59mayanks43more of the proceedings
17:06.02dsathe:D
17:06.21dsathei missed the procedings last time around
17:06.23dsathe:D
17:06.28mbabkerthat's even more confusing MatthewWilkes!  i'll stick with my singular hour and minute hand… lol
17:06.29galaxyAbstractorMatthewWilkes sometimes you gotta wonder how someone thought it was useful to have a second offsett...
17:06.44dsathewas busy with the gang ! came in at 0032 and went crazy
17:06.47Michituxtishan89: or to be precise everybody who applied will get an email
17:07.05MatthewWilkesgalaxyAbstractor: It's because we didn't have a way of communicating the time, so you had to do local measurements, and cities aren't evenly offset
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17:07.29MatthewWilkesgalaxyAbstractor: If all you can get is the exact instant it's noon you end up with seconds offsets
17:07.30dsathemayanks43: blame the terrace for my missing out last time :D
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17:07.47galaxyAbstractorah
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17:08.13LetterRip!next
17:08.14gsocbotLetterRip: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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17:08.36dsatheit's quite greart thing to do actually , infact i think ill repeat it just about now :D
17:08.50dsathe* in this situation
17:09.28mayanks43yeah it will be better than you trolling the channel
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17:09.43dsathehey i no troll :/
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17:10.00dsathecomin to your place , RUN
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17:15.13gsocbotantweb_: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:15.18warstart_.
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17:15.27gsocbotwarstart_: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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17:26.45Rahul_Hello all :)
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17:27.56dsathebreak ! AoE time !
17:27.59carolshello Rahul_
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17:29.12Rahul_carols:  :)
17:29.16carols:-)
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17:30.18ChrisCTXAoE
17:30.20ChrisCTXas in
17:30.29ChrisCTXAge of Empires?
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17:30.50mayanks43oh yeah
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17:33.46neXyontic toc, are you excited guys?
17:33.59dfighternot really
17:34.04shibulijackhell yeah
17:34.28dfighterif I should get excited I can still take a Xanax, have a half bottle still
17:34.29blacktooth!countdown
17:34.30gsocbotblacktooth: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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17:34.33shibulijackchecking the remaining time every single minute!
17:34.35ardahalsuper excited
17:34.44mayur03neXyon: yeah..excited... :)
17:34.46rishipythyes. extreamly.
17:34.50neXyonhehe :)
17:34.54neXyondfighter: y not?
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17:35.09dfightertoo sleepy for that I guess ;)
17:35.16neXyonI'll spend the waiting time coding xD
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17:35.25neXyondfighter: where are you from? ^^
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17:35.32dfighterHungary
17:35.33dfighterwhy?
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17:35.38qheadenThe suspense is killing me.
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17:35.48Coappfani hope i get selected in Coapp
17:35.48shibulijackI know right
17:35.57Coappfanotherwise ill commit suicide
17:36.01neXyondfighter: well it's not so late in Hungary
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17:36.04shibulijackbull shit
17:36.11carolsCoappfan: please don't threaten that.
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17:36.14shibulijackits just a comeptition
17:36.17vipulnsward!countdown
17:36.18gsocbotvipulnsward: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:36.23Coappfanjust  kidding
17:36.24carolsshibulijack: please don't use that language in this channel.
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17:36.32shibulijacksorry
17:36.52dfighterneXyon tiredness and sleepyness is not really related to time
17:36.56qheadencarols: Is it okay for students to say which organizations they applied for?
17:36.58galaxyAbstractoryou shouldn't joke about that :<
17:37.03dfighterare not even
17:37.08shibulijackexactly
17:37.10carolsqheaden: if you like.
17:37.23qheadenSo out of curiosity, which orgs did you guys apply to?
17:37.27qheadenI applied to Mozilla.
17:37.32MareoI applied to iPXE
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17:37.41smitOGDF
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17:37.46cicD!
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17:37.56kscottzhi
17:37.56neXyon5 orgs :D
17:38.01dfighterit will be so nice if thousands of people start spamming who they applied for
17:38.02dfighter:D
17:38.03shibulijackContributing to open source feels good :)
17:38.11kscottzI just want to make sure my org's selection has gone out
17:38.14Rahul_all the best guys :)
17:38.15neXyonwon't ever do that again xD hell that's a lot of work so many proposals
17:38.15tzbobwow neXyon how did you manage to prepare 5 proposals
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17:38.25qheadenNice org applications. :)
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17:38.36qheadenI sent in two proposals to Mozilla. I hope one of them gets accepted.
17:38.36kscottzHi — I have a question
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17:38.41neXyontzbob: I spent a whole week of holidays
17:38.45tzbobdam
17:38.56tzbobI'm regretting doing 2
17:39.05shibulijackAll the best guys!
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17:39.06tzbobmy chances are very slim now I shoul've picked one
17:39.18m1k3ythis channel will get moderated when the results are announced, iirc
17:39.23sanket!countdown
17:39.24gsocbotsanket: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:39.30shibulijackmoderated as in?
17:39.33m1k3ymuted
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17:39.40m1k3yonly people with voice can speak
17:39.52dfighterlet's hope carols will distribute some tea before muting the channel so you can all relax :>
17:39.52pranjal710_!countdown
17:39.53gsocbotpranjal710_: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:39.55shibulijackAnd those people would be the selected applicants?
17:40.01m1k3yheh
17:40.01qheadenMakes since. No doubt there are some people who will join and start blaming others for not getting accepted. P
17:40.02m1k3yno
17:40.09Mareom1k3y, if you take this out of IRC context, this seems pretty obvious :D
17:40.11m1k3yprobably ops and melange folks
17:40.16downey|awayputs the kettle on
17:40.45m1k3yMareo: :)
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17:40.47qheadenSo will the accepted/rejected emails be sent all at once when the timer hits zero, or will it happen over time?
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17:41.08neenaHey m1k3y
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17:41.10m1k3yqheaden: it takes a while for the scripts to run and the emails to get delivered
17:41.12neXyontzbob: well, might be better if you concentrate on 2 proposals and do them really good, instead of more but not so perfect ones
17:41.13kscottzI just want to make sure my acceptance / rejection letters went out okay
17:41.15shibulijackwe will get it around 19:00 UTC
17:41.17JakeDustqheaden: I guess they'll be sent as fast as the server can send them, which I guess will take some good minutes
17:41.17neenam1k3y: good luck!
17:41.18dfighterqheaden last year there was a mail queue
17:41.20m1k3yqheaden: probably over a few minutes
17:41.22dfighterfirst the winners got it
17:41.25dfighterthen the losers
17:41.25m1k3yneena: thanks
17:41.27tzbobyeah I concentrated on two neXyon
17:41.29kscottzI have been moving cross country and not watching as best I could
17:41.32qheadenOkay.
17:41.36tzbobbut I regret it, I should've concentrated on just 1
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17:41.57kscottzIs there a GSoC mod I could talk to directly?
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17:42.04carolskscottz: yes
17:42.05carolsme
17:42.19Arjun05Oh wow, is 'melange' actually the "Melange" i.e. spice from the Dune book series ?
17:42.20tzbobare there any other opensource related summer jobs similar to gsoc btw?
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17:42.50sfbtzbob: Some organizations have things. KDE usually has Summer of KDE.
17:42.52kscottzHi carol, I just want to confirm that my orgs emails went out.
17:42.57m1k3ytzbob: some orgs have their individual programs
17:43.01carolskscottz: um, what emails?
17:43.03shibulijackYou can always contribute to open source tzbob
17:43.04sfbtzbob: But most of these only compensate with a cool t-shirt or something like that.
17:43.16tzbobtshirts are fine
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17:43.17carolskscottz: you mean accept/reject notifications for students?
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17:43.25kscottzAren't acceptance / rejection emails sent out automagically?
17:43.34carolskscottz: yes, in a bit over an hour.
17:43.41sfbThe deadline is still an hour and 15 minutes away.
17:43.43kscottzOh, okay
17:43.48tzbobyeah I know shibulijack but it's different imo
17:43.51dfightersfb Ryzom should really have that, with a huge Yubo preparing to bite on the T-shirt :D
17:43.54kiddorails1 hr 16 minutes 7 seconds.
17:43.58kscottzSo if on Melange it is says pending acceptance we're good to go
17:44.01kiddorailscoming closer every second.
17:44.02JakeDustArjun05: "Melange, the Spice of Creation" from http://code.google.com/p/soc/, so I guess the spice must flow :)
17:44.04carolskscottz: correct.
17:44.09sfbdfighter: If I had enough interseted students I'd get Ryzom t-shirts.
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17:44.15qheadenThis is like watching water get to boiling point. :P
17:44.19carolskscottz: you would have received an email from me that said "URGENT" if you weren't.
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17:44.37Arjun05JakeDust: Awesome!
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17:44.50kscottzSwell, I just wanted to double check. I was really busy between Thurs and today and I wanted to make sure nothing slipped through the cracks.
17:45.06Cheezmeister!countdown
17:45.07gsocbotCheezmeister: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:45.12carolskscottz: it would have been blatantly obvious to you if things weren't ok.
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17:45.28qheadenCheezmeister: Stop showing the countdown. You are making me get sick! :P
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17:45.51kscottzRad. Thanks a bunch for the help.
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17:46.42Cheezmeisterqheaden, sorry, I'll leave you forever now ;)
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17:47.03qheaden:P
17:47.10ChrisCTXkscottz join the channel, a bunch of us are there waiting :P
17:47.15qheadenToo bad students aren't allowed to come to the mentor summit. :(
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17:47.34carolsqheaden: if students came it wouldn't be the mentor summit, it would be the mentor/student summit.
17:47.40rishipythkscottz: please do. :)
17:47.51qheadenChange the name! :)
17:47.54smitthere should be a student summit
17:47.58carolsqheaden: nope, sorry.
17:48.37Catfish_Mancarols: also we would make the students fetch tea
17:48.44downey|awayqheaden: If you stick around the project after GSoC, you could always try to become a mentor in a following year.
17:48.45ardahal!tea
17:48.45gsocbotardahal: "tea" is Hot!
17:48.48carolsCatfish_Man: indded
17:48.58downey|awayqheaden: (And then have a shot at going to the mentor summit.)
17:49.01allmanif there was a GSoC Student Summit, who here would come?
17:49.08|Kev|allman: The mentors!
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17:49.17Arjun05Hahaha
17:49.21MatthewWilkesallman: Couldn't you have asked before the application deadline??
17:49.24logiclord!next
17:49.25gsocbotlogiclord: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
17:49.33shibulijack!tea
17:49.33gsocbotshibulijack: "tea" is Hot!
17:49.34ChrisCTXif the student was in California, I could probably attend
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17:49.51qheadenI would love to visit Cali, but am scared to fly. :(
17:50.18gevaertsqheaden: you don't have to do much yourself, really. They have pilots for that ;)
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17:50.25AzzurrioWhen the accepted students will be announced please?
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17:50.32allmanMathewWilkes: If we did such a thing past and presents Mentors could come too. We might have to rent a stadium ;-)
17:50.33ChrisCTX!countdown
17:50.34gsocbotChrisCTX: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:50.37downey|awayqheaden: Train?
17:50.40gevaertsAzzurrio: at 19:00 UTC
17:50.44carolsAzzurrio: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012
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17:51.00qheadenDo the mentors post their pictures in any general location? It would be cool if we can see the guys who helped us out.
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17:51.20allmanMathewWilkes: Just tossing it out there as an idea  :)
17:51.20savy2020!next | Azzurrio
17:51.21gsocbotAzzurrio: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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17:51.46downey|awayallman: What's the ampitheatre capacity? :)
17:51.49MatthewWilkesallman: We'd still need a pool, though.  Also, I'm a Matthew, not a Mathew, usually it wouldn't matter but I miss highlights this way.
17:51.54downey|awaygsoc picnic
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17:51.59AzzurrioSo we will receive e.mail or what?
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17:52.06shibulijackqheader: Pteromerhanophobia?
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17:52.11carolsAzzurrio: yes
17:52.13jsalatasqheaden: search linkedin :)
17:52.18allmandowney: 8000?
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17:52.28qheadenshibulijack: Yup. :)
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17:52.34allmanMatthewWilkes: Sorry!  I'm a bad typist
17:52.38fxrh!countdown
17:52.39gsocbotfxrh: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:52.48|Kev|allman: No tab completion?
17:52.51qheadenTo be honest, I have never flown. But airplanes are two easy to have some sort of failure.
17:53.03shibulijackI love aeroplanes
17:53.04ChrisCTXquite the opposite qheaden
17:53.08gevaertsqheaden: I don't think that's true
17:53.12allman[Kev]: to b honest, I don't know.
17:53.19Xeliisn't it like the safest way to travel? ;p
17:53.21gevaertsthinks he's still alive, which counts for something :)
17:53.24ChrisCTXstadistically, you're more probable to die in a car accident that get hurt in a plane
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17:53.36tzbobI've never flown before
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17:53.39gevaertsThose statistics are all wrong!
17:53.48qheadenIt probably isn't true, but still, I just don't like it. :P
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17:53.53gevaertsthinks he's flown between 100 and 150 times
17:53.54ardahalwell, it depends on which country you are flying..
17:54.01tzbobso I'm going to korea if I don't make it into Gsoc, 25 hours of flying
17:54.02tzbobyay.
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17:54.15mbabkeri've made more over-ocean flights than i care to count anymore, i feel safer in a plane than i do driving… even if something did happen, there's a lot of safety precautions in those things
17:54.24sfbqheaden: My Dad is a pilot and I have most of my time to be one.
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17:54.31gevaertsMy father has been in several planes that crashed some time after
17:54.34sfbqheaden: In an airplane there is a backup to everything.
17:54.50qheadenI guess I can blame the news for making me scared. :P
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17:55.02Al_Da_BestIt's actually difficult for a modern aircraft to crash, there's just that much safety on there. (We're talking 5 levels of computer systems, fuel backups, you can run on a single engine quite often, and glide with none)
17:55.10gevaertsqheaden: count car crashes for a while if you're bored
17:55.14tzbobin that case you should be even more scared of video games qheaden :P
17:55.34schumamlbecause they turn you into a killer?
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17:55.54qheadenstarts to wonder how much open-source software airplanes use, just out of curiosity.
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17:56.23downey|awaynoticed a tux icon when the in-flight entertainment rebooted a while back
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17:56.36flaushywould be awesome to know. since they probably try to verify it
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17:56.50prazuber!countdown
17:56.51gsocbotprazuber: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
17:56.53Arjun05qheaden: wasn't there a bad crash in Pakistan 2 days back?
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17:56.58schumamlmy very first flight was exicting, the others plain boring
17:57.04qheadenYeah, it was.
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17:57.38schumamlsmall plane, and the pilot pulled something that seemed to resemble a combat takeoff
17:57.44qheadenIt would be funny if some of the projects in GSoC is actually used by aircraft. You code it, and then fly with it running. :P
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17:57.57gevaertsschumaml: they get better if the first landing attempt fails and the pilot has to try again. You can observe scared people then
17:58.05ChrisCTXI recall a teacher telling me a story
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17:58.06sfbhaha
17:58.16ChrisCTXof how a programming team for a bullet train system
17:58.16OliverUvthe sound of 6000 students refreshing their inboxes
17:58.28ChrisCTXhad to be the first testers of the actual train
17:58.31sfbMy Dad learned to fly in a float plane. The rules of taking off and landing in one of them is simple: spend as little time as possible doing so.
17:58.39sfbSince the water backwash is hard on the plane.
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17:58.44ChrisCTXthat way they would present a flawless system from the start
17:58.56sfbSo when you land you come nose down pretty fast and taking off is a pretty steep climb to avoid obstacles.
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17:58.58qheadenChrisCTX: Ha ha ha. That's trusting your code.
17:59.06sfbIt scares the bejesus out of first time passengers.
17:59.14Arjun05sfb: I've read on that, don't you need like a kick of some sort to get you off the water?
17:59.26gevaertsOld tradition. In Roman times brides were load-tested with the designer standing under them
17:59.34|Kev|Haha.
17:59.40sfbahaha
17:59.43|Kev|I *think* you mean bridges, but I like your version better.
17:59.48ChrisCTXhahahahahha
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17:59.59san_:D
17:59.59gevaertshas a stubborn G key
18:00.01smiti am also afraid to fly... but love getting high
18:00.11ChrisCTXI went like wut O_O on that one
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18:00.34shibulijacklol
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18:00.42rishipyth59 minutes
18:00.43rishipyth24 seconds
18:00.50Jmon59 minutes, 10 seconds
18:00.50gevaertsis happy to have provided some distracting amusement
18:00.55Jmonhttp://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=Accepted+students+announcement&day=23&month=04&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0
18:01.04OliverUvwait what
18:01.07OliverUvis it 1 more hour?
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18:01.11flaushyyepe
18:01.13Jmon58 min left
18:01.16rishipythyes.
18:01.17OliverUvdamnit i was counting swedish time -1h
18:01.26OliverUvthe way UTC usually works :/
18:01.28qheadenfeels more nauseous
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18:01.31|Kev|OliverUv: Less number one of international collaboration. Learn to deal with timezones.
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18:01.40|Kev|OliverUv: No, it doesn't, it doesn't work that way for 50% of the year.
18:01.43gevaertsOliverUv: it's summer!
18:01.46Jmon<3500 sec
18:01.47schumaml"dear students, please configure your system clocks to show UTC. thanks"
18:01.47Catfish_Man|Kev|: "lesson"? ;)
18:01.51|Kev|s/Less/Lesson/
18:01.59gevaerts|Kev|: typos are fun!
18:02.03|Kev|Catfish_Man: Just what I was typing, yes. I have a stubborn 'on' key.
18:02.17OliverUv|Kev|: Well, 100% of the time I've dealt with UTC previously, then
18:02.19shibulijackless than one hour! so when will the channel go mute?
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18:02.30prazuberit will?
18:02.34flaushywhy should it go mute?
18:02.36shibulijackapparently
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18:03.28schumamlthat would silence all the "I'm in" "me too "me too "me too" ... messages :)
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18:03.41sfbToday is by far the hardest day of the program for me as an org admin.
18:03.43smitand all the abuses too
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18:03.55qheadensfb: Which org are you an admin for?
18:04.10sfbqheaden: OpenNMS and mentor for Ryzom Core (under WorldForge)
18:04.18qheadenCool.
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18:04.35sfbUltimately in both cases I have to face very good students and tell them why I couldn't accept them.
18:04.43sfbAnd it always hard.
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18:04.46yeswanthheads up for everyone. all the very best :)
18:04.53|Kev|Which reminds me that I really must give Ryzom another try sometime.
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18:05.03davorbi've grabbed some rakija. it will help me celebrate if i get in, and it will help me forget that i didn't if i don't.
18:05.47edsiper!countdown
18:05.48gsocbotedsiper: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:06.25dodevdavorb: you'll need some shopska salad with that ;)
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18:07.06davorbnot a bad idea dodev
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18:07.34sfbrakija? Is that like distilled wine?
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18:07.51Jmongood luck everyone ~~
18:07.54Arjun05shopska is that some sort of spiked salad?
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18:08.03smitdavorb : try vodka gol gappa
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18:08.22davorbgoogles "gol gappa"
18:08.38Arjun05smit: whut o.o, that exists?
18:08.40san_gol gappa, lol
18:08.52shibulijackbefore the channel goes mute, I would like to thank Google for encouraging students to contribute to the open source community. Hats off to you guys!
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18:09.19dodevsfb: rakja is a kind of liquor, much like the Italian grappa
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18:09.32smityeah
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18:09.55fxrhwill the channel go mute?
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18:10.04davorbgoogled gol gappa. now i have an irresistible urge to try the dish on the left https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Indian_cuisine-Panipuri-03.jpg
18:10.15shibulijackyes fxrh
18:10.19an1lol
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18:10.24fxrhok
18:10.24an1its an amazing dish
18:10.27jsalatasdodev: in which country do they have rakia?
18:10.32dsathedavorb: sure is
18:10.41simonldavorb: looks delicious :)
18:10.45dodevjsalatas: bulgaria generally
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18:10.46smitdavorb : try it... its awesome
18:10.46san_davorb, its sour and yummy
18:10.47dsatheput in some vodka in the mix and you are set for  a treat ;)
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18:10.49shibulijackit is
18:10.51davorbjsalatas: basically the balkans
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18:10.54dodevin Albania they call it raki
18:11.05ChrisOelmuellersfb: indeed. not looking forward to that :-(
18:11.16dsathevodka in the golgappa water is insaaaane !
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18:11.20dsathelike pop shots
18:11.21jsalatassame in greece: raki :)
18:11.36Jmonis this drunk club or gsoc
18:11.37davorbsmit: i live in sweden, so it's kind of hard to get a hold of. i'll go to an indian restaurant and see if i can find some there.
18:11.38Jmon:P
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18:11.39mohyt!next
18:11.40gsocbotmohyt: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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18:13.02smitdavorb : you will surely find it in any indian restaurant... kinda the most famous dish in India
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18:13.34Arjun05I doubt he'll find gol gappas
18:14.15rishipythcome to india sometime brother. you will get gol gappas everywhere.
18:14.23naman22we have some thale wala here
18:14.25simonldavorb: Sweden! Me too :)
18:14.32naman22that are open all night
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18:15.05smitbut you dont get vodka on thelas
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18:15.35davorbman this waiting is killing me. i'm going to head down to the shop and buy some snacks before they close.
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18:17.00dzhusthe crowd here will go ballistic when the announcement comes lol
18:17.07jsalatas!logs
18:17.07gsocbotjsalatas: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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18:17.19myth17!mail
18:17.24myth17!mails
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18:17.31myth17:|
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18:17.44MatthewWilkes!emails | myth17
18:17.44gsocbotmyth17: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now.
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18:17.50smit!odds
18:17.50gsocbotsmit: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead.
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18:18.06smit:D
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18:18.31MatthewWilkesMan, I have to be in the pub at 8pm. I miss the fun
18:18.53qheadenAs computers get faster and smarter, gsocbot might be rating our proposals one day. :P
18:18.54downey|awayMatthewWilkes: Tough life. :)
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18:19.10|Kev|qheaden: Yes, "One day".
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18:19.36MatthewWilkesdowney|away: Flatmate's birthday. I had to be up early for her birthday breakfast too.  Taking bloody liberties, if you ask me!
18:19.44smitqheaden : that day it will code our gsoc projects for us
18:19.45amaurymedeiros2how many minutes before 19:00 UTC the emails will be send?
18:19.50MatthewWilkes|Kev|: I'll code that when I get a round tuit
18:19.54MatthewWilkes!countdown | amaurymedeiros
18:19.55gsocbotamaurymedeiros: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:20.06qheadensmit: That would be cool. :)
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18:20.19|Kev|MatthewWilkes: My parents have a very nice round tuit. Mine's just a cheap coaster type thing.
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18:21.05EvilTosha-ubany brony here?
18:21.15|Kev|What is a "brony"?
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18:21.45EvilTosha-ubhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brony
18:21.52Jmonhttp://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
18:21.53wtachiHere's what I'm going to do while all the other students are staring at the countdown:
18:21.55MatthewWilkes|Kev|: Maybe I'll print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6016
18:21.57wtachiI'm going to kill xmobar, so I don't see the mail
18:22.00wtachiI'm going to get some lunch and go for an hour-long bike ride
18:22.04wtachiand when I get back, I'm going to go through all the accepted projects, one by one, until I get to the org I applied for
18:22.08wtachideparts
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18:22.40|Kev|MatthewWilkes: 3D print?
18:22.45MatthewWilkes|Kev|: Yarp
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18:23.25farukuzunwhat is gsocbot?
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18:23.41Catfish_Mana bot, for gsoc
18:23.44Catfish_Manas the name implies
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18:23.58lolfrenz!next
18:23.59lolfrenz!deadline
18:23.59gsocbotlolfrenz: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
18:24.07farukuzun!deadline
18:24.11lolfrenz!countdown
18:24.12gsocbotlolfrenz: "countdown" is http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:24.33farukuzuni ilet it. thanks lolfrenz and Catfish_Man
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18:24.36farukuzunlike*
18:24.39Jmongsocbot should add to the message a link to the final countdown - europe video
18:24.50m1k3yneena: but why
18:24.57farukuzun!help
18:24.57gsocbotfarukuzun: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
18:25.12MatthewWilkesJmon: I keep being tempted to do that, but think it'd cause more confusion than we need
18:25.25Jmonhehe :D
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18:28.19JordiGH!next
18:28.20gsocbotJordiGH: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
18:28.25JordiGH!countdown
18:28.26ThomasWaldmannJmon: haha, i just thought about the same title. before reading your msg.
18:28.26gsocbotJordiGH: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:28.46JordiGHOh, 31 minutes.
18:28.48JordiGHExciting.
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18:28.53Jmonexciting?
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18:29.00Jmoni feel nervous :S
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18:29.38gaurav_sood91Jmon, same here
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18:30.16klocatelli!countdown
18:30.17gsocbotklocatelli: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:30.17Mr_Negativityaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm In.
18:30.23UndertakerChances?
18:30.36sliminemhow would you know ??
18:30.39klocatellilol the final count down
18:30.41JordiGHlol
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18:30.45Undertakerprobability ?
18:30.46farukuzunlol
18:30.52JordiGHMr_Negativity: You can't know that yet.
18:30.59Jmonlol !countdown
18:31.05sliminemyup
18:31.08|Kev|whistles innocently.
18:31.11sliminem30 mins
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18:31.24JordiGH|Kev|: zomg leaks!
18:31.25gaurav_sood91JordiGH, i guess he was announcing his entry into the channel..:D
18:31.34sliminemguess so
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18:31.48UndertakerSo what will you do in the summer if you do not get selected (Just asking a question ,not being negative ;) )
18:31.49sharveywhere would the list be posted?
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18:32.03ardahalhow long before the channel is made voice only ?
18:32.04farukuzunUndertaker: i will kill zombies.
18:32.05jceellast year, first mails were sent about 20 mins before 19:00 UTC
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18:32.10Jmon@undertaker : another project or couchsurfing
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18:32.13Mr_NegativityJordiGH: I said I'm in #gsoc :\
18:32.15MareoUndertaker, work on my proposal anyway xD
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18:32.15sharveyUndertaker: research
18:32.16Mr_Negativitythe chatroom
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18:32.26pratyushyo dsathe
18:32.29umanUndertaker: internship at a local company
18:32.31mayur03gaurav_sood91: best wishes to you and saurabh :)
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18:32.33Mr_Negativityyo pratyush
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18:32.36Mr_Negativitysup brah?
18:32.38JordiGHI wonder if there'll be a GSoC next year...
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18:32.48MareoJordiGH, why ?
18:32.48Arjun05mayur03: oo twins
18:32.49Mr_Negativityokay that would be weird
18:32.51pratyushdo I know u Mr_Negativity ?
18:32.51JordiGHHas a GSoC ever been announced while one was underway?
18:32.51gaurav_sood91mayur03, thanks a lot. best wishes to you too..:)
18:33.01Mr_Negativitypratyush: I'm guessing yeah.
18:33.03JordiGHMareo: Because it's a lot of fun.
18:33.03mayur03Arjun05: yup
18:33.14pratyushwhats your real name Mr_Negativity
18:33.14mayur03gaurav_sood91: thnks buddy.. :)
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18:33.20Undertakergreat ! Me also planning to work on my proposal ,any as there won't be any deadlines I can work on some other stuff as well
18:33.30Mr_Negativitypratyush: I might be a Chinese Emperor
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18:33.31dsatheoooh look who we have here mr pratyush
18:33.34rishipythall the best to everyone.
18:33.36umanJordiGH: pretty sure there is one every year
18:33.37farukuzunMr_Negativity: lol
18:33.37Mr_NegativityMongolian actually
18:33.38mayur03saurabhsood91: ping
18:33.47Mr_Negativitypratyush: its clear now?
18:34.16dsatheooh the gang is here
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18:34.16pratyushMr_Negativity: Yes, I know you Feroze Naina, Mr Troller
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18:34.16JordiGHuman: Sure, there has been one, but there's no guarantee there will be one next year. Google is under no obligation to have a GSoC.
18:34.16dsathevikash ping
18:34.16dzhus25 minutes oh jeez
18:34.16pratyushlol@chinese
18:34.16pratyushvikash: u here ?
18:34.16Arjun05explodes
18:34.16vikashdsathe, pong
18:34.16shana!countdown
18:34.16gsocbotshana: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:34.18dsathepong it is
18:34.21Mr_Negativitypratyush: dude the fuck man.
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18:34.22vikashpratyush, somwhat
18:34.23umanJordiGH: true
18:34.30dsatheMr_Negativity: chillax
18:34.30UndertakerShall we announce our countries ? le me Started --->Sri Lanka
18:34.30Mr_Negativitypratyush: why would you :\
18:34.31pratyushdsathe: u knw about Mr_Negativity ?
18:34.34Mr_Negativitydammit pratyush
18:34.35dsatheno
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18:34.42dsatheman ppl got the ban hammer
18:34.44dsathe:d
18:34.49umanUndertaker: United States
18:34.55pratyushHaha Genghiz !
18:35.01JordiGHI kinda wish we had a more public SoC sort of thing, funded by the UN or something like that. There are programmes of the sort for other things. The Europeans have a similar programme.
18:35.03dsathePOST ANNOUNCE MOVE TO #gsoc-india
18:35.06farukuzun!countdown
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18:35.06gsocbotfarukuzun: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:35.13praveen97umaGenghiz: Such language is not allowed here
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18:35.19pratyushya ppl, lets move to #gsoc-india
18:35.20dsathewe will have the slam theer
18:35.20GenghizI'm sorry
18:35.29GenghizI panicked
18:35.41DarkSectorsure
18:35.42umanJordiGH: in a perfect world all software development would be funded globally
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18:35.46DarkSectorGenghiz:
18:35.48umanJordiGH: well, not all, but a lot
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18:35.54GenghizDarkSector: hello ther
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18:36.10Undertakeruman :and will distribute all of them freely
18:36.18pratyushGenghiz: jump in there
18:36.20nickon!next
18:36.21gsocbotnickon: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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18:36.26JordiGHI was thinking of this: http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2011/
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18:36.37JordiGHSigh, looks like they can't even keep their webpages up to date...
18:36.38Genghiz:\
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18:37.11Arjun05If only I had real melange.
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18:37.48knarfffthere's a lot of people in here
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18:37.53d34th4ck3r22 minutes remaining?
18:37.54knarfffas expected
18:37.58knarfff:D
18:37.59JordiGHHuh, that's a weird slogan.
18:38.03JordiGH"In space, nobody can hear you code."
18:38.04Jmon635 now
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18:38.10d34th4ck3r:D
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18:38.22JordiGHAre they trying to suggest that writing code for ESA is like fighting Giger's xenomorphs?
18:38.23klocatelli635 people in the channel :D
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18:38.27umanJordiGH: in a perfect world all software development would be funded globally
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18:38.31umanJordiGH: well, not all, but a lot
18:38.31pratyushd34th4ck3r: come on #gsoc-india
18:38.35umanJordiGH: and distributed under an opensource license.
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18:38.46JordiGHuman: Nah, a free license.
18:38.58klocatellideja vu
18:39.03schumamlin a perfect world there would be no need to fund
18:39.06sharveyJordiGH: you're with octave, yes?
18:39.10JordiGHsharvey: Aye.
18:39.16umanJordiGH: I thought only Richard Stallman cared about these distinctions ;)
18:39.21Genghiz!logs
18:39.21gsocbotGenghiz: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
18:39.26umanschumaml: well, yeah, but I was talking about what could realistically happen
18:39.42JordiGHuman: No, I care too, but not quite as much as he does.
18:39.44sharveyJordiGH: I have a friend who has a math degree, and is interested in numerical algorithms, what sorts of open source projects would be interesting to him?
18:39.45Arjun05I guess we'd know the start of the dispatch, with a mute. o.o
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18:40.00Genghizsharvey: Maybe Orange and R?
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18:40.09umanJordiGH: presumably it would be public domain
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18:40.14JordiGHsharvey: Octave, Scipy and Numpy, Scilab, R, Julia.
18:40.40sharveyJordiGH: ok cool, thanks
18:40.48JordiGHsharvey: Those are the general-purpose ones. If your friend is interested in more specific applications, there are more specialised projects.
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18:40.59LennieLol at QPS on google-melange :)
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18:41.11JordiGHLennie: Getting hammered, eh?
18:41.16JordiGHAND SICKLED
18:41.19Jmon1120 seconds
18:41.19Jmonleft
18:41.23JordiGHGoogle communism.
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18:41.29LennieJordiGH, yeah already :p
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18:41.48qballer20 minutes
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18:41.51JordiGHLennie: If you refresh faster, maybe the results will be posted earlier.
18:42.02InfinityL:P
18:42.05LennieJordiGH, :)
18:42.05Genghizdsathe: hey there. You know pratyush?
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18:42.10MatthewWilkesLennie: Should we tell them how the cache is configured with a request total, and they need to hit refresh 500 times to make a real refresh happen?
18:42.13MatthewWilkes</troll>
18:42.14LennieJordiGH, I don't need to refresh I already know who's accepted for every org :)
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18:42.22dsatheGenghiz: yes
18:42.31Genghizdsathe: same college?
18:42.32Lenniehow about every time you refresh we set the deadline back a second :P
18:42.41InfinityLJordiGH: Do you know which open source project would be a good starting place for someone interested in AI ?
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18:42.53dsatheno man
18:43.06dsatheacquainted from the 2011 meetups
18:43.20Jmon<1000 seconds !!!!
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18:43.31Arjun05switches on loud music to stop the voices in his head
18:43.32InfinityL(*tense*)
18:43.35Lennie44QPS right now :P
18:43.37Lenniestill going up :)
18:43.45SinnerShanky!countdown
18:43.45JordiGHInfinityL: "AI" seems to me like kind of a vague field. I don't know much about it. Shogun is good for machine learning, but I would have a lot more fun hacking on Wesnoth's AI.
18:43.46gsocbotSinnerShanky: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:43.46Lenniegood stress test :p
18:43.52hybrid!next
18:43.53gsocbothybrid: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
18:43.54|Kev|Lennie: Not personal enough. Every time you refresh, 1 gets added to counter. The last person to press refresh prior to the maildrop starting gets their mails delayed by N minutes.
18:43.56rishipythmy heart will come out now.
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18:43.58sliminemguys, where do you check ? is is the main gsoc page
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18:44.01hybrid!countdown
18:44.02gsocbothybrid: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:44.21sliminemguys, where do you check ? is is the main gsoc page
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18:44.23hartem!next
18:44.24gsocbothartem: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
18:44.33hybrid_o_o_ oOo _o_o_
18:44.48InfinityLJordiGH: Hmmm....I see what you mean. But its vagueness that get me interested because it is there everywhere :P
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18:44.53InfinityL*gets
18:45.02shibulijackyou will get a congratulations mail sliminem
18:45.09shibulijackand yes you can check the site too
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18:45.16sliminemright! 10x
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18:45.21UndertakerGsoc BOT no time to impress mentors now I guess
18:45.23Undertaker"D
18:45.26Undertaker:D
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18:45.28demosdemonHarhar the final countdown
18:45.32SinnerShanky!countdown
18:45.33gsocbotSinnerShanky: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:45.38aleekco tam misiaczki?:D
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18:45.42sharveyInfinityL: you might be better looking at a subset of AI
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18:45.45ShDIless than 15 minutes
18:45.50ShDIim so nervous
18:46.02subhbot15 min left..!!
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18:46.03bretoniumpam pam
18:46.05klocatelli14 :D
18:46.06aleekwhats up dudes?:D
18:46.06bretonium14 min
18:46.07Stepan777good luck everyone
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18:46.12InfinityLJordiGH: Its just that at Uni we don't actually get to do the real AI. So Open Source is something where I can actually experiment and see what happens :)
18:46.22ShDIStepan777: TY
18:46.24JordiGHWere any of you on IRC at Unix time 123456890?
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18:46.30JordiGHThis brings back memories.
18:46.30aleek14.30
18:46.31umanposting the number of minutes until 1900 GMT is not productive
18:46.31MatthewWilkescarols, allman, Lennie: Can you do it by post next year? Then we get this level of fun for days or even weeks.
18:46.34aleek14:29
18:46.36aleek14:25
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18:46.39aleek:OOO
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18:46.42aleek14:19
18:46.43klocatelli800 seconds :D
18:46.47sanket!countdown
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18:46.48gsocbotsanket: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:46.52bretonium641 nicks
18:47.01klocatelliI see 643
18:47.02carolssmiles
18:47.02InfinityLsharvey: What kind of subsets are talking about? Some examples of what you have in mind please :)
18:47.04allmanMatthewWilkes: I hate you right now.
18:47.06bretoniumsinging "it's a finall countdown"
18:47.08allman:)
18:47.10SinnerShanky770
18:47.12carolsgood luck everyone.
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18:47.18UndertakerCan someone tell a joke ? so we can spend this 700 seconds with laugh
18:47.19Arjun05listening to final countdown!
18:47.19Genghiz:)
18:47.19Undertaker?
18:47.20qballerthanks carols
18:47.21SinnerShankythanks @carols
18:47.21san_carols, Thanks
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18:47.26MatthewWilkesallman: That's twice you've said that today! A boy could start to worry!
18:47.32sharveyInfinityL: multi-agent systems, expert systems, fuzzy logic, machine learning, etc.
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18:47.46bretoniumFELLAS FELLAS CHECK EMAILS!
18:47.49sharveyInfinityL: those are the ones I can think of (i.e. have basic experience with)
18:47.50carols:-D
18:47.53allmanMatthewWilkes: I only threaten people I like  ;-)
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18:47.59bretoniumthere is nothing!
18:48.06Arjun05bretonium: troll
18:48.09klocatellibretonium, >_<
18:48.14carolsok everyone
18:48.15natsub!countdown
18:48.16gsocbotnatsub: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:48.19carolstime to start quieting down
18:48.26carolsor this channel will be muted
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18:48.31aleekcarols++
18:48.32subhbot15 min left..!!
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18:48.59MatthewWilkesright, /pub.  Enjoy all, congratulations to those that make it.  To those that don't… please consider contributing anyway
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18:49.03demosdemon+1 carols
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18:49.11aleekcarols: you should consider creating #gsoc-spam next year :D
18:49.16carolsindeed
18:49.19aleekor #gsoc-dev-null
18:49.19bretonium#gsoc-talks
18:49.21JordiGHInfinityL: I don't know of a general-purpose "AI" library, since AI seems so broad. There are projects like AIML (artificial intelligence markup language).
18:49.33umancarols: could just ban anyone who mentions a number of minutes remaining ;)
18:49.34InfinityLsharvey: Oh!....you mean choose a specific topic and try to get something done in it !
18:49.42JordiGHInfinityL: http://www.alicebot.org/aiml.html
18:49.43sharveyInfinityL: yes
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18:49.48viraj_uman:+1
18:49.48farukuzun!whatis google
18:49.49gsocbotfarukuzun: "google" is not the cosmic cash machine
18:49.55JordiGHBut ew, it's XML.
18:49.56farukuzun!whatis microsoft
18:49.56gsocbotfarukuzun: "microsoft" is evil
18:49.57|Kev|InfinityL: There's the ML course that Stanford are running, too.
18:50.00JordiGHXML is not for humans to read. :-(
18:50.03farukuzunlol
18:50.05galaxyAbstractorhey sharvey :o
18:50.15sharveyhi galaxyAbstractor
18:50.16ogzy!whatis gsoc
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18:50.16gsocbotogzy: "gsoc" is Something that allows you to program for the summer in an open source project and win some cash and reputation
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18:50.23|Kev|InfinityL: I've not done it, but I was told by people who should know that it was decent last time.
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18:50.29ogzy!whatis this
18:50.29gsocbotogzy: "this" is not the factoid you are looking for
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18:50.33aleekanyway, In 10 minutes we are going to know, if my brand new drumset is going to have epic huge FreeBSD and Google logo on it :D
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18:50.41rishipythlol
18:50.45InfinityL|Kev| Just registered for it in the hope of doing some Ai related stuff for next year's gsoc :)
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18:50.52blacktooth!botabuse | ogzy
18:50.52gsocbotogzy: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
18:51.00shanathere's nothing quite like this channel during the countdown
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18:51.06JordiGH|Kev|: I took the ML course before they incorporated their Draconian agreement: http://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/Stanford-University-Probabilistic-Graphical-Models-tp4470602p4470781.html
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18:51.13myth17To be mute soon
18:51.14myth17lol
18:51.14buffyg_laptopaleek: Otherwise just the FreeBSD logo?
18:51.29aleekbuffyg_laptop: otherwise there will be NO DRUMSET :(((
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18:51.37klocatelliI wonder if we'll hit 700
18:51.40InfinityLJordiGH: Are you into AI? btw how was the course?
18:51.42Lennieare we muting this channel?
18:51.51JordiGHInfinityL: Ng is an *excellent* instructor.
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18:52.07carolsLennie: i think we are very soon.
18:52.11JordiGHInfinityL: I'm not really into AI, no.
18:52.21aleekcarols: is there going to be some event right here on the channel right after "d-day" ??
18:52.23demosdemonI'm more worried about after the announcement.
18:52.23mjaskurzynski7 min
18:52.27carolsaleek: event?
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18:52.46aleekmeeting, like lat friday's
18:52.50aleeklike last*
18:52.52carolsaleek: no, nothing formal.
18:52.56aleekok
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18:53.26Jmon!countdown
18:53.27|Kev|JordiGH: Draconian is in the eye of the beholder and all.
18:53.27gsocbotJmon: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
18:53.28klocatelliparty and whining :P
18:53.29InfinityLAh!....JordiGH do you know of any courses offered in Pattern Recognition?
18:53.41wakeupsid!countdown
18:53.42gsocbotwakeupsid: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/tlSVK, or (#2) http://href.hu/x/hn5a
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18:53.59JordiGH|Kev|: I suppose.
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18:54.09klocatelliInfinityL, are you familiar with https://www.coursera.org/ ?
18:54.10isaacbwoh man, so close
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18:54.27JordiGHInfinityL: "Pattern recognition" is usually a synonym for "machine learning". I've learned a few things about it.
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18:54.34SinnerShanky300
18:54.35qballerYES!
18:54.38JordiGHI think...
18:54.41qheadenBefore the channel is muted, I hope the best for everyone!
18:54.44InfinityLklocatelli: Yeah...found out about it a week back.
18:54.48hiddenpearls5 mins to go
18:54.50farukuzun309
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18:54.55edsiperbest of all guys.
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18:55.02Jmonwhy is going to be muted?
18:55.05SinnerShankybest of luck all
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18:55.06prokrammerthey mute the channel?
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18:55.10edsiperhappy hacking for everyone, if you are not selected, start coding anyways.
18:55.13ankitdafthey didn't last year
18:55.14klocatellicool, never mind then :P tons of interesting stuff on there, I wish I had more time :/
18:55.15aleekthank you everyone, for countdowning, I really cant count :D
18:55.17ankitdafiirc
18:55.22tzbobdamn right edsiper
18:55.24InfinityLJordiGH: Then its cool. Here at Uni its supposed to be a seperate course but they are'nt offering it this time :/
18:55.28|Kev|I would urge people not to start wishing 600 lots of 'good luck'.
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18:55.33Jmoni have recieved and email
18:55.39Jmonemails are being sent
18:55.43chemhackI got an email too
18:55.43viraj_all the best everyone!!
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18:55.49arinkCheck your mail guys!
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18:55.52chemhackaccpeted. WOW
18:55.52gaurav_sood91what a killer 5 mins!
18:55.56Arjun05I got an email
18:55.58davorbi don't have any mails :/
18:55.59Arjun05from my dad
18:55.59Arjun05mwahaha
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18:56.07qheadenchemhack: Congrats.
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18:56.10Lenniecarols, I think the time is drawing near :P
18:56.14tzbobhaha
18:56.15simonlArjun05: Haha :)
18:56.17sliminemc'mon
18:56.18carolsLennie: indeed.
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18:56.26wakeupsidWohooo!! :D
18:56.27JordiGHInfinityL: University courses sometimes are named in a way that doesn't directly relate to the subject matter, only to the pedagogical separation.
18:56.33Lennie95QPS :)
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18:56.38shanabraces for the deluge
18:56.39InfinityLklocatelli: Wish I had too man. Wanna quit coll and get into Open source stuff and learning stuff from places like coursera :P
18:56.42JordiGHLennie: Fun.
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18:56.44davorblol Arjun05
18:56.48neXyonuh, got a first mail
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18:57.01|Kev|InfinityL: I did some amount of things related to patrec at uni, FWIW.
18:57.02arg3tlamWho needs alcohol, when you can countdown for GSoC results ? :)
18:57.02LennieJordiGH, 1800 mails in queue atm and more added every second :P
18:57.02sliminemdo they sent mails if you are rejected ??
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18:57.06carolssliminem: yes
18:57.08InfinityLJordiGH: fair point :)
18:57.09SukhEsliminem: Yes.
18:57.13sliminemyup
18:57.13Shaan7sliminem: yea and attach a cookie for you :P
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18:57.46JordiGHLennie: Your smtpd is gonna overheat!
18:58.02klocatelliha channel slowed down at the sound of "emails!"
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18:58.12MareoA "project" menu appeared to my dashboard, does it mean something ? :)
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18:58.18davorbhmm
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18:58.19jsalatasaccepted!
18:58.21antweb_just got my mail :)
18:58.29vipulnswardyes for me too
18:58.30davorbthe dashboard now shows projects, but no email yet...
18:58.32qheadenjsalatas: Grats
18:58.35antweb_time to get a bottle of champagne!
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18:58.46davorbit shows the project i applied for under project, though
18:58.47antweb_or sth like that
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18:58.58robodex123No email yet..
18:59.00klocatellilast minute ^_^
18:59.01aleekgod dammit, you ddos the website!!!!
18:59.01jsalatasdavorb: you are in! congrats
18:59.02davorbguys, check melange if you haven't gotten the email
18:59.05manu4543accepted!
18:59.05umanchill out people
18:59.06aleekddoes'ed
18:59.07hendourFServer Error... :(
18:59.07LennieFYI, Emails have a delay since they are sent from a separate queue. They'll all be sent out over the next 15 min :)
18:59.10davorbniiiiiiice! thanks jsalatas
18:59.20davorbat least i hope so, no email yet
18:59.24atermenjithe happiest man in the world
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18:59.28davorbdon't want to get my hopes up...
18:59.32Arjun05will it be a ddos?
18:59.34Stepan777server error
18:59.46SinnerShankysite's down
18:59.53d34th4ck3rlast minute
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19:00.00qheadenTime up
19:00.03aleekcarols: shame on your servers :D
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19:00.08carolsaleek: :-)
19:00.12arg3tlam:O
19:00.15klocatelliloads fine for me
19:00.17aleekand ISP
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19:00.31vipulnswardserver error
19:00.31sourabh0612its 19:00 UTC now
19:00.32dsatheand melange is down :(
19:00.35sourabh0612no mail yet
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19:00.44umanwell this is anticlimactic :)
19:00.44Xeliserver error means refresh faster right?
19:00.45natsubNo mail
19:00.51naman22i got selected
19:00.53ChrisCTXwe killed the server!!!!
19:00.55davorbXeli:  lol
19:00.57mjaskurzynskione mail for all applications or separete?
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19:00.59aleekjust 20 apache threads, and 6 000 students waiting :D
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19:01.00isaacbwhah
19:01.01klocatellialright now it's belly up, lol
19:01.02robodex123500 Server Error
19:01.05dsathemute !
19:01.08ignotuspWhat happens? :D
19:01.12isaacbwcmon Google!
19:01.14isaacbwyou can do better!
19:01.16bretoniumand gmail is not loading
19:01.19mpreislerpoor melange with all the students hammering it :D
19:01.23carolsok everyone, i'm muting the channel. :-)
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19:01.37carolsthat's better
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19:01.57allman:-)
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19:02.36Lenniecarols, site looks good. A few 500's are expected with AppEngine trying to spin up new instances. Don't let people fool you :P.
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19:02.52carolsLennie: i won't :-)
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19:48.16Lenniethings have sped up again now :), mails should really be all sent in 5 min now :D
19:48.39allman:-)
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19:49.21Lennieallman, I think we hit a new QPS record this year and our AppEngine instance wasn't scaling as fast as it could have :)
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19:49.32LennieTweak some values and it decides to scale ^^
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19:50.06allmanI think it all went rather smoothly - thanks to the Melange team and Carol!
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19:56.39LennieI should stop being too optimistic :D, anyway the emails that were supposed to go out 50 min ago have all go out and the backlog is now ~5 min while the last few orgs get their proposals accepted/rejected :)
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19:59.49srabbelierall proposals accepted
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20:00.56LennieYeah we are done :)
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20:01.20LennieCongratulations on those that were accepted and if you were not accepted it doesn't mean your open source adventure ends here :)
20:01.32Lenniecarols, 1212 projects as expected
20:01.43carolsLennie: yep, i saw that. thats great.
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20:35.47carolsok, i'm taking moderation off this channel for now. but if it goes crazy again I will moderate again. you all have been warned :-)
20:35.49*** mode/#gsoc [-m] by carols
20:35.55zatixwhat is the tax form document?
20:36.07carolszatix: you will get information about it when the time is right.
20:36.08carolsdon't worry
20:36.10carolshave some tea
20:36.14carolsserves some tea
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20:36.27zatixcarols: OK thanks, good work with the whole gsoc thing :)
20:36.32carolszatix: thanks
20:36.38klocatelli\o/ wooo!
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20:37.18jsalatas!next
20:37.19gsocbotjsalatas: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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20:37.30scorcheappears to have missed all the fun ;)
20:37.36jsalatas:)
20:37.48aleekhi five to everyone ;)
20:38.00manu4543exactly 1212 students selected !!!!!
20:38.29scorcheactually, 1211.47 students were accepted - we rounded up
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20:38.39GSoCfanIs there any way to find out country wise and college wise demographics of GSoC2012 selected students ?
20:38.42klocatelliwill we be notified before things get sent to us?
20:38.47brlcadrounded up that .47 and ate them?
20:38.52klocatelligsoc things, physical mail
20:39.10megustascorche: I heard it was 1211.68
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20:40.10carolsGSoCfan: yes, we post a blog post about that every year.
20:40.12bretoniumwell,
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20:40.48metalfingerNot selected, better next time (Y)
20:41.29carolshey everyone, my congratulations to everyone who was selected and my condolences to those who weren't. however, we don't need or want individual messages from everyone in this channel about whether you were accepted or not.
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20:42.30megustabretonium: 1h30mins crossed :P
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20:43.32bretoniummegusta: nah, the excitement thing is not here now :)
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20:44.00unimaurocarols: thank you !!! :
20:44.02megustabretonium: Just thanking your effort with a line!
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20:44.21enricop!next
20:44.22gsocbotenricop: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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20:45.01klocatelligsocbot doesn't know the meaning of next :P
20:45.08aghislacarols: may I warmly welcome my 22 OSGeo students here? :)
20:45.27aghislathanks again for dedicating us so many slots!
20:45.29carolsaghisla: are all the other org admins going to do this in channel too? :-)
20:46.00aghislaok so I will keep silent :P
20:46.02Strangerkecarols: I think so :)
20:46.03carolsthanks :-)
20:46.31megustacarols: Keep it mute for some more time :P, or change the title to stop thanking :)
20:46.36Strangerkecarols: Thanks again for everything, and thanks to everyone involved
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20:48.25carols!logs
20:48.26gsocbotcarols: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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20:49.58TedTedTedTedif I have been accepted, can I still refuse to be a part of the program ? That is very unlikely but just in case...
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20:50.30adam_vollrathTedTedTedTed: you could disappear, sure.
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20:50.32dberkholzcarols: that wouldn't be so bad, only a few screens worth. not that many admins. =)
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20:53.55TedTedTedTedadam_vollrath: yeah, I guess the SWAT would not break my door if I suddenly stopped answering to my e-mails, but is there an official and more "proper" way to do it ? ^^
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21:01.46gsocbotSinnerShanky: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23.
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21:11.41sourabh0612any details on number of selections from a particular university?
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21:11.50carolssourabh0612: we'll post a blog post later.
21:12.01dsathebits goa 18
21:12.11sourabh0612oki
21:12.18sourabh0612it bhu 12
21:12.27JordiGHWow, an Iranian got an acceptance email?
21:12.36JordiGHI thought those things were caught before the emails got sent.
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21:14.03zatixbeing born in Iran forbids you from applying to gsoc?
21:14.17JordiGHBeing a citizen of Iran, yeah.
21:15.25gsocfanhow many from India ?
21:15.32Neil___loads
21:15.42zatixJordiGH: if someone from Iran wants to contribute to FSFS, are they allowed?
21:15.50zatixFSF*
21:15.57zatixoutside gsoc I mean
21:16.18JordiGHzatix: Sure, the Free Software Foundation is pretty civilly disobedient.
21:16.22sourabh0612gsocfan: i suppose this time India will be at the top
21:16.23*** topic/#gsoc by srabbelier -> http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted students have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information.
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21:16.56Triskelioszatix: the problem with GSoC is the student payments, in case it wasn't clear
21:17.05adam_vollrathUS law
21:17.19zatixI know it is because of US laws
21:17.50zatixbut are China people allowed? most of the cyber threats are from there (if this is what they are worried about)
21:17.56gevaertsThis has nothing to do with contributing to projects and everything with laws about businesses and contracts
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21:18.56JordiGHYeah, but some projects try to get around it.
21:19.21JordiGHSourceforge for a while tried to forbid Iran. I don't know if it still does, but people then setup alternative hosting outside of the US.
21:19.32Triskelioszatix: the US does not have a trade embargo with China. if it did, it would would have significant issues
21:20.07schumamlI wonder why there's no real effort to use that against Free software
21:20.23JordiGHUse what? Trade embargoes?
21:20.42schumaml"helping the axis of evil etc etc"
21:20.56JordiGHAh.
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21:21.22JordiGHI guess the government doesn't think free software is politically relevant or not big enough to try to smear it with propaganda.
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21:21.42schumamlstarts the OpenMissile project
21:22.02gevaertsschumaml: I think the regular news items about big companies selling firewall equipment make that a bit hard to do safely
21:22.09flaushyr0cket :)
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21:22.43JoolesEvening all. Congrats to students who got accepted :D
21:23.52cpolymerisaccording to the faq it's not only residents of iran, cuba, nk, etc. who are excluded from gsoc but also nationals. Wonder if that is a legal requirement of the embargoes
21:24.03zatixI guess the US government  uses linux boxes in many of their systems, including militar equipment
21:24.21zatixhow many people from Iran, etc have contributed to those?
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21:28.26somaenzatix: I guess they are stricter on the export than the import.
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21:29.41qballer!next
21:29.41gsocbotqballer: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects.
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21:30.02hiddenpearlscarols, how many are accepted from Pakistan  ?
21:30.07carolshiddenpearls: i don't know.
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21:32.38qballer1212 accepted proposals
21:33.34klocatelli!numapps
21:33.34gsocbotklocatelli: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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21:38.44l0nr4nhi all :)
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21:42.03Arjun051212*5500= 6,666,000. Interesting number.
21:42.27pansetHi, I saw there is some development going on for epiphany synchornisation. I see two projects similar http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/wting/8001 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/yann_soubeyrand/11001
21:42.34pansetAre both joint projects?
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21:43.35Ident1116 * 5973,11827... = 6,666,000. Interesting number.
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21:44.14wtachilikes the project with "FUNTIONAL" in the title
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21:57.35gsocbotNeil_: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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22:04.55dsatheNeil_: o Neil_
22:05.14dsathewoot
22:05.27Neil_w00t indeed
22:06.47dsatheNeil_: get on g+
22:06.54neena!apps
22:06.55gsocbotneena: "apps" is see !numapps
22:06.59neena!numapps
22:07.00gsocbotneena: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
22:07.18alinrusneed to setup those email filters :)
22:08.58dsathebahahah
22:09.06dsathealinrus: org ?
22:09.19dsathecongrats btw !
22:09.38alinruswiselib
22:09.39alinrus:)
22:09.44dsathe\o/
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22:09.54alinrus\:D/
22:10.14alinruswaited 90 minutes for the email
22:10.16dsatheparty started ?
22:10.18dsathe:D
22:10.28dsatheyea sad stuff melange :)
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22:11.00alinrusno party yet it's 1 am here
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22:11.16alinrusbut I'll grab a beer or two tomorrow
22:11.18Identthe accepted student page loaded forever, and for me always stopped atr 900 students
22:11.18alinrus:P
22:11.21Identnot listing my name
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22:11.26Ident:D what a torture
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22:42.32praveen97umaHi
22:42.41yoMaeselected! yay yay yay yay
22:43.30Catfish_ManyoMae: now the hard part ;)
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22:45.18yoMaeCatfis_Man, the hardest part is to get a chance. Last year, Although I wasn't selected, I keep on contributing to the same project whenever I had the opportunity to. :)
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22:46.27d34th4ck3ryoMae: Congratulations, me 2. :)
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22:50.11yoMaed34th4ck3r: Congratulations. ;)
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22:53.50tian2992cheers to everyone that got approved!
22:56.27LoreheadCongrats to everyone who got accepted, as well!
22:56.54qballerWoho!
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23:13.49JakeDustIs this year's GSoC number of accepted projects a record?
23:14.07ChrisOelmueller!numapps | JakeDust
23:14.07gsocbotJakeDust: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
23:14.47JakeDustChrisOelmueller: I know, but IIRC 2008 was the year that had more accepted students before
23:15.13ChrisOelmuelleryep, but less than 1'200 iirc
23:15.20JakeDustnice :)
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23:19.28jceelJakeDust, this year there is 1212 students accepted
23:20.22ojwb!learn numapps as In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
23:20.22gsocbotojwb: "numapps" is (#1) In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted., or (#2) In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, (1 more message)
23:20.34ojwb!forget numapps 1
23:20.34gsocbotojwb: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
23:21.19ChrisOelmuellerhttp://google-opensource.blogspot.de/2008/04/announcing-accepted-student-proposals.html lists 1125 accepted for 2008
23:22.00jceelthings getting better year by year :)
23:22.16ojwbthere was a slight drop in the number accepted in 2009
23:22.18ojwbIIRC
23:22.26masquerade2010 as well
23:22.42ojwbthere was one year when the recession was biting when the numbers dropped a bit
23:23.06ojwbhmm, so not a record number of proposals this year
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23:25.55d34th4ck3r!numapps
23:25.55gsocbotd34th4ck3r: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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23:31.05Ident!numapps
23:31.06gsocbotIdent: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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23:32.50yoMaeany GSoC selected students from Algeria ?
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23:32.57JakeDustojwb: No, but record number of students, iirc
23:33.14ojwbJakeDust: ah, maybe that was what the announcement said
23:33.27ojwbproposals per student has trended down with time
23:33.40shaprwhich makes sense, pick a good proposal and stick with it
23:34.12ojwbindeed
23:35.04ojwbwe don't select on the basis of how many proposals you put in, but I've noticed that the best ones usually haven't made more than one, and very rarely more than 2
23:35.53shaprI had two in mind, but only put in the stronger one, and it worked!
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23:36.25Identwill there be a statistic for students per country?
23:37.00bretoniumIdent: yes, later, as they said
23:37.07Identcool
23:38.05JakeDustyeah, I also sent only one proposal, and it worked :)
23:38.24shaprOne thing that helped our org (haskell.org) was that one person does a retrospective of proposals over the years, and tries to figure out which ones succeed and are longer-term useful, and which ones are only successful, or fail.
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23:40.57scr4veI guess this question has already been asked, but has there been a correlation to the mails send on Thursday?
23:41.01Identshapr : doesnt the usefulness most of all depend on the topic?
23:41.20shaprIdent: Not at all...
23:41.32Identscr4ve: i did not get a mail on thursday, but i got one today/yesterday
23:41.43shaprIdent: I was mentor for several years, and one of the projects I mentored was HaskellNet, a collection of networking libs (IMAPv4, etc)
23:42.05shaprIdent: While the proposal was considered successful, nobody ended up using it, due to a lack of propaganda.
23:42.21luitei didn't even know it existed until now :p
23:42.26shaprsee?
23:42.33shaprand luite is very active in the haskell.org world :-)
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23:42.43Identwhat is a haskell?
23:42.50luiteIdent: something you can learn!
23:42.52Identnoo!
23:42.54shaprIdent: It's a programming language with unusual and interesting properties.
23:42.59scr4veluite++
23:43.09luiteIdent: http://learnyouahaskell.com/
23:43.11JakeDusthaskell is a lovely language
23:43.29Identi can't use it for the things i do due to its design
23:43.43JakeDustI'd certainly use it more if I didn't have so many problems with IO and monads :P
23:43.44luiteIdent: really? what things are that?
23:43.49Identgraphics programming?
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23:44.15shaprIdent: So, success on a good topic is important, but making sure people know about and use the result is just as important. Thus, tutorials and publicitly are important.
23:45.04Identwell my project should turn new people to the library, hopefully, so i m working on exactly that :)
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23:45.15alinrusq: how do you know someone is a haskell programmer? A: they'll tell you.
23:46.11Ident:)
23:46.15dfighteroh I think there's an in-joke in there
23:46.23shaprWhat is it?
23:46.24dfighterhaskell being declarative
23:46.30shaprargh, I get it!
23:46.34dfighter:D
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23:47.07dfighternever really got into the declarative world tho
23:47.12dfighterbut I will!
23:47.14dfightereventually
23:47.24luiteIdent: ah, i guess haskell lacks some high performance graphics libs (low level opengl is there though, and cairo). i'm quite interested in graphics programming myself, but am trying to do so through the web browser :)
23:47.33shaprI've not gotten into logic programming, but I will! eventually
23:47.41Identluite : webgl
23:47.42dfighteris haskell considered a good intro language for it or should I go with lisp/scheme?
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23:48.00dfighterI've got SICP for those
23:48.04dfighterbook + vids
23:48.06dfighterfrom MIT
23:48.23luiteIdent: possible, but the main problem is of course the haskell interaction, since compiling haskell to javascript is experimental at best
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23:48.30Identoh
23:48.31shaprdfighter: I'd say try both of them for a short period (hour or two) and see which one you prefer. Both have freely available books and tools.
23:48.50shaprdfighter: I do own SICP, and it is awesome!
23:48.55dfighteroh, thanks shapr! I will do so :)
23:49.01alinrusgo with lisp :)
23:49.17Identluite : but the question is: does it really make sense to use a language like that for a purpose like that?
23:49.23shaprdfighter: Also, when you're trying Haskell, check out the #haskell irc channel! Lots of friendly people there! (note: I started it)
23:49.30alinrushttp://xkcd.com/224/
23:49.31luiteIdent: why not?
23:49.45dfighterok I shall do that too shapr  :)
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23:53.01Identluite : i don't know, i just have never heard of any usage of functional graphics programming, cant really visualize how it would work
23:53.34alinrusthere was a nice cad app in haskell iirc
23:54.23luiteIdent: there are some 2d drawing libraries that are quite "functional" in style, for haskell. but those are mainly concerned with declaratively drawing an image, not directly with realtime interaction
23:54.40alinrushttps://github.com/colah/ImplicitCAD
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23:55.52luiteIdent: doing really functional style interactive graphics is more or less research subject (functional reactive programming), but fortunately a more traditional imperative style also works quite nicely
23:55.53ShidashSo I was accepted to GSoC but my parents are pestering me asking me how taxes work with GSoC saying that I will be considered a contractor and have to pay 14% of the $5000 in taxes. How do taxes work?
23:56.03shaprShidash: goood question!
23:56.08shaprShidash: I want to know too!
23:56.20ojwbI believe you are technically a contractor
23:56.31ojwbso the taxes will depend on your local tax system
23:56.32Identthere wo go, tax talks!
23:56.34shaprso, file a 1099 ?
23:56.40shaprer, inside the US?
23:56.50ShidashThis is inside the US
23:56.54ojwbgoogle will tell you what is needed for the US side
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23:57.08ojwbShidash: i have little familiarity with the US tax system
23:57.11Shidashah
23:57.25ojwbif your parents do, they're probably right
23:57.34JakeDustaccording to the FAQ, it is a grant. IDK about the US, but at least in Brazil grants are tax-free
23:57.39Shidashoh
23:57.53Shidashthat would be really nice
23:57.59Identeducation grant?
23:58.06ojwbi don
23:58.14ojwb't see the word "grant" anywhere in the faq
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23:58.24dfighterit's a contract work
23:58.36ojwbthat's my understanding
23:58.37JakeDuststipend
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23:59.21JakeDustso yeah, my mistake.
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23:59.25dfightertbh I might even get into trouble because of it being a contract work
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23:59.37Shidashcontract is very different than grant or stipend because contract you need to pay your share and the employer's share
23:59.38dfighterhere in hungary you have to pay taxes for such things before you even get the money
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23:59.40ojwb"A stipend is a form of salary, such as for an internship or apprenticeship" says wikipedia
23:59.42dfighterevery 3 months or something
23:59.50TriskeliosShidash: you only have to file a tax return if you make over the minimum reporting income required by the IRS

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