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| 00:18.10 | AR_ | Catfish_Man, are you affiliated with google? |
| 00:18.18 | Catfish_Man | I am not |
| 00:18.35 | Catfish_Man | but I did mentor for GSoC for three years, and have been helping out for quite a while |
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| 00:18.59 | AR_ | ah ok cool |
| 00:19.20 | AR_ | What projects are you involved with? |
| 00:19.37 | Catfish_Man | these days none in particular, but I used to contribute to Adium and WebKit |
| 00:19.54 | AR_ | nice |
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| 00:21.14 | mlankhorst | well, im not really doing much for wine atm :p |
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| 00:21.22 | mlankhorst | except adminny stuff |
| 00:21.57 | Catfish_Man | AR_: actually I take that back; I suppose I do contribute to CFLite currently |
| 00:22.15 | Catfish_Man | it's just unclear how much that's actually accomplishing; oh well |
| 00:22.48 | JordiGH | All very Appley projects... |
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| 00:23.21 | Catfish_Man | JordiGH: my dad wrote the first live magnifying glass UI on the Mac in 68k assembly back in '85 or so. It's in my blood ;) |
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| 05:11.09 | pcacjr | I need to use a backup admin of a user that will be mentor of other project. is it possible ? |
| 05:15.02 | ojwb | pcacjr: it's been OK in previous years |
| 05:15.31 | ojwb | make sure people don't overcommit though |
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| 05:25.21 | pcacjr | ojwb: oh, ok. thanks |
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| 06:18.07 | ben_endpoint | After (re)registering to be am organization admin I was expecting "My Dashboard" to show my organization but all there is a "My Requests" link that leads to an empty form with no association with my organization. ...Perhaps I didn't fill out my profile correctly. |
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| 06:41.09 | pcacjr | ben_endpoint: the same here. |
| 06:42.35 | pcacjr | ben_endpoint: if you figured out what's going on, please tell me, if possible. |
| 06:42.50 | ben_endpoint | I found a big button staring me in the face for submitting the Google Summer of Code 2012 Mentoring Organization Application. |
| 06:43.28 | pcacjr | ben_endpoint: where's it ? |
| 06:43.31 | ben_endpoint | A guide said it would be on the left nav, but it was in the center of the Home page after I submitted the Organization Admin application. |
| 06:43.48 | ben_endpoint | well the URL I am currently filling out is this: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/application/google/gsoc2012 |
| 06:44.04 | pcacjr | takes a lookt |
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| 06:45.05 | pcacjr | in my dashboard there's something registered since my org. application in "My organization application" |
| 06:45.16 | pcacjr | but there's nothing in "My requests" |
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| 06:46.56 | ben_endpoint | I was hoping to see my last year's organization application. |
| 06:47.33 | pcacjr | hrm |
| 06:47.34 | ben_endpoint | pcacjr: Do you see yours? |
| 06:47.43 | pcacjr | nope |
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| 06:49.48 | pcacjr | ben_endpoint: I just submitted a new mentoring org. should I add myself as admin after all ? |
| 06:52.20 | ben_endpoint | pcacjr: It seems to me you must be an organization admin already in order to have been able to submit the application. |
| 06:53.03 | pcacjr | yeah. makes sense :-) |
| 06:53.33 | ben_endpoint | - On the Mentoring Organization Application form there is no place to specify the admin, but only the backup admin. |
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| 06:55.00 | pcacjr | ben_endpoint: yeah. possibly we shouldn't be able to add ourselves as backup admin |
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| 07:09.30 | ojwb | ben_endpoint, pcacjr: the person who makes the application is implicitly the admin for it |
| 07:09.54 | ben_endpoint | Yes, thank you. |
| 07:09.58 | ojwb | you can add more admins and resign once you get accepted if you want to change that latter |
| 07:10.03 | ojwb | later, even |
| 07:10.30 | ben_endpoint | ok, but I'm all about inertia. :-) |
| 07:10.41 | ojwb | it's apparently possible to see previous years' applications, but I haven't tried myself |
| 07:11.36 | ben_endpoint | I'm hoping to see last year's after I have submitted this year's. |
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| 07:11.57 | ben_endpoint | - I take it that the application can be updated until the deadline. Is that correct? |
| 07:13.07 | ojwb | yes |
| 07:13.33 | ben_endpoint | Thanks for confirming that. |
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| 08:28.56 | tomprince | ben_endpoint pcacjr: This might have what you are after http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011#org_app (I can't see since I wasn't an admin last year. |
| 08:29.39 | ben_endpoint | Thanks, tomprince! |
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| 11:38.46 | jemarch | hi |
| 11:38.58 | jemarch | is there an offline version of http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/ ? |
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| 12:22.05 | nextgens | hi |
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| 12:23.18 | nextgens | I get a weird popup message when I try to register as an organization on melange |
| 12:23.23 | nextgens | "This web site needs a different Google Maps API key. A new key can be generated at http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/v2/introduction.html#Obtaining_Key." |
| 12:23.34 | nextgens | (on https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/google/gsoc2012) |
| 12:25.19 | nextgens | I wonder if the application went through |
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| 12:31.49 | ojwb | nextgens: apparently using http:// instead of https:// avoids the API key message |
| 12:32.05 | ojwb | if it got submitted, you should see it in your dashboard |
| 12:32.19 | nextgens | hmm, so it didn't :) |
| 12:32.20 | nextgens | ok |
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| 12:32.30 | nextgens | well, https-everywhere does the http -> https for me |
| 12:33.15 | ojwb | oh, when you tried to register as an org admin, or when you tried to fill in an org app? |
| 12:33.31 | ojwb | if the former, you'll see a "submit org app" button on the front page if it worked |
| 12:33.41 | nextgens | hmm |
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| 13:05.56 | nextgens | hmm |
| 13:06.04 | nextgens | on the application form, both: |
| 13:06.14 | nextgens | "Did your organization participate in past Google Summer of Codes? If so, please summarize your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation." |
| 13:06.18 | nextgens | and |
| 13:06.21 | nextgens | "If your organization has not previously participated in Google Summer of Code, have you applied in the past? If so, for what year(s)?" |
| 13:06.25 | nextgens | are mandatory questions |
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| 13:06.53 | nextgens | that's probably a mistake |
| 13:07.39 | brlcad | just put N/A in the other |
| 13:07.52 | aghisla | Well it is mandatory to fill in one of the two. I just wrote n/a in the other |
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| 16:02.58 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! We are now accepting applications for mentoring organizations at http://www.google-melange.com. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. |
| 16:03.28 | JordiGH | Hm, |
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| 16:03.42 | JordiGH | looks again. |
| 16:04.30 | JordiGH | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/application/google/gsoc2012 |
| 16:04.38 | JordiGH | Looks like Django doesn't like the terminal / |
| 16:05.08 | JordiGH | considers that a minor bug, too lazy to report it. |
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| 16:24.06 | sfb | Okay. |
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| 17:25.08 | stfleur | Hey guys. We're part of NOAA from the Department of Commerce. We are starting a new project that consists of a database of meteorological data and a web interface to visualize the data. We plan on using Smart GWT for the web interface and open source tools for the database. Since this is a new project we do not have any code under the open source initiative yet. Do you think that we can still apply for the Google Summer of Code program in an attem |
| 17:25.09 | stfleur | pt to get a student to help jump start our project? |
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| 17:26.02 | Catfish_Man | stfleur: in general, no. GSoC is more about getting students involved in the open source community, and less about providing free help to open source projects |
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| 17:28.50 | stfleur | Thank you very much Catfish_Man. Would you recommend we apply anyway or do you think that since our project hasn't taken off yet, GSOC would be unwilling to accept our application? |
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| 17:29.27 | Catfish_Man | stfleur: worst that could happen is "no", so if you've got time, I don't see why not |
| 17:30.04 | stfleur | thanks for the reply |
| 17:30.27 | Catfish_Man | good luck with the project :) it sounds pretty cool |
| 17:30.36 | stfleur | thanks again |
| 17:30.47 | stefanct | stfleur: asking them directly, is probably a good idea too |
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| 17:31.21 | stfleur | how can we ask them directly, we cannot find a contact link on the site |
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| 17:33.10 | stefanct | either wait for carols to join or mail to carols@google.com (dunno if anybody else that is directly involved at google, is also around here) |
| 17:33.40 | stfleur | thanks stefanct |
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| 18:09.01 | censorydep | stfleur, from the FAQ: "As long as your project can provide mentors and is releasing code under an http://www.opensource.org/licenses, you are welcome and encouraged to apply." |
| 18:09.33 | Lennie | stfleur, note that any and all code written by the student must be open-sourced and uploaded at the end of the contest |
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| 18:09.50 | censorydep | http://google-melange.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#org_types |
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| 18:10.26 | stfleur | This is really helpful censorydep and Lennie |
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| 18:11.19 | Lennie | censorydep, that's the FAQ from two years ago though |
| 18:11.25 | Lennie | but the principle stands :0 |
| 18:11.27 | Lennie | !faq |
| 18:11.27 | gsocbot | Lennie: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 18:11.49 | censorydep | thanks Lennie. I just followed the links on the wiki. ;-) |
| 18:12.29 | censorydep | I'll have to poke Carol about editing rights and/or get her to update the link here: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/ |
| 18:13.06 | Lennie | lemme see about that |
| 18:13.18 | Lennie | can you link me to the wiki censorydep ? |
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| 18:13.23 | Lennie | !wiki |
| 18:13.23 | gsocbot | Lennie: "wiki" is is at https://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/ |
| 18:13.29 | Lennie | well not that one gsocbot :p |
| 18:13.47 | censorydep | that code.google link I just posted is what I was looking at. |
| 18:13.53 | censorydep | the FAQ link is in the left hand nav. |
| 18:14.26 | Lennie | I need to read the entire sentence :P |
| 18:14.43 | censorydep | reading is hard... let's go coding! |
| 18:15.00 | Lennie | censorydep, pm me your google account |
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| 19:48.05 | gevaerts | !next | gabor_bernat |
| 19:48.06 | gsocbot | gabor_bernat: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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| 19:51.22 | gabor_bernat | thanks | gevaerts |
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| 20:18.25 | jgsmith | quick question (hopefully) - is there an email address for the GSoC admin mentioned in section 1.5 of the org agreement? my university contracts person is asking for it |
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| 20:19.15 | agliodbs | I'm confused: where is the actual *application* for the organization? |
| 20:19.34 | JordiGH | agliodbs: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/application/google/gsoc2012 |
| 20:19.45 | agliodbs | thanks |
| 20:19.58 | agliodbs | navigation on Melange continues to be a challenge |
| 20:20.00 | JordiGH | It's kinda hard to find. It's become a FAQ to track down that link. |
| 20:20.15 | lkcl | JordiGH: am new here. done that... but what's next? where do you put projects (or... when)? |
| 20:20.21 | lkcl | as a mentor / org. |
| 20:20.23 | lkcl | that is |
| 20:20.29 | JordiGH | lkcl: You wait until you get accepted. |
| 20:20.35 | lkcl | ahhh |
| 20:20.51 | JordiGH | Right now you're just supposed to produce a pretty application and keep your ideas page elsewhere. |
| 20:20.54 | lkcl | ok. *thinks*.... |
| 20:20.55 | lkcl | :) |
| 20:21.12 | JordiGH | Then when you're accepted Google assigns you places for the students. |
| 20:21.21 | lkcl | but... it's just... "information", isn't it? no actual "stuff" goes in the "application". |
| 20:21.30 | gevaerts | jgsmith: you mean the person in charge on the google end of things? |
| 20:21.35 | lkcl | or are you supposed to put on the web site "we're applying, yaaay!" |
| 20:21.41 | lkcl | i _can_ do that... :) |
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| 20:22.09 | jgsmith | gevaerts: I think so — someone who can work with our contracts person to get certain clauses worked out — since we're a state institution |
| 20:22.27 | gevaerts | jgsmith: contact carols at google |
| 20:22.36 | gevaerts | Carol Smith that is |
| 20:22.39 | jgsmith | gevaerts: awesome - thanks! |
| 20:23.19 | JordiGH | lkcl: You don't need to make your application public, but I did so in order to engage the whole community to write a better application. You do need a public ideas page, though. |
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| 20:29.32 | lkcl | ack. |
| 20:29.41 | lkcl | JordiGH: ack. thanks. yes. good idea. |
| 20:30.16 | JordiGH | lkcl: http://octave.org/wiki/index.php?title=GSoC_2012_application |
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| 20:38.53 | agliodbs | what's the difference between a "link ID" and someone's Google Account? |
| 20:39.16 | JordiGH | I think it's the same thing. |
| 20:39.20 | JordiGH | Well, Melange account. |
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| 20:39.54 | dhaun | so it's not the same thing :) |
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| 20:42.02 | agliodbs | does it look like that user's email address? |
| 20:42.18 | dhaun | no, it's just a username |
| 20:42.44 | dhaun | if you log into Melange, it's on the top, under the GSoC banner |
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| 20:44.12 | agliodbs | oh |
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| 20:45.03 | agliodbs | feh |
| 20:45.05 | JordiGH | I think agliodbs meant Melange account when she or he said "Google account". |
| 20:45.09 | JordiGH | I thought |
| 20:45.10 | agliodbs | the link id is somethe else entirely |
| 20:45.15 | agliodbs | JordiGH: no, I didn't |
| 20:45.22 | agliodbs | I meant Google Account |
| 20:46.18 | lkcl | need help |
| 20:46.25 | lkcl | oh sorry wrong list :) |
| 20:46.29 | lkcl | meant on #arm-netbook :) |
| 20:46.32 | lkcl | ignore me.... |
| 20:48.27 | agliodbs | different ... |
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| 21:11.40 | agliodbs | is there any way for me to look up a link_id based on the user's email address? |
| 21:12.20 | dhaun | not that I know of - I had to ask our backup admin for his link_id ... |
| 21:13.15 | agliodbs | feh |
| 21:13.23 | agliodbs | the problem is the backup admin is in europe |
| 21:13.32 | agliodbs | and I can't reach him for 16 hours |
| 21:13.46 | Lennie | agliodbs, is this your first time applying? |
| 21:13.59 | JordiGH | zomg race against the clock. |
| 21:14.24 | agliodbs | no, I just forgot about the link_id being different from a general google address |
| 21:14.43 | Lennie | It's been like this for years, so I'm not feeling that sorry about it :P |
| 21:14.45 | Lennie | anyhow |
| 21:14.46 | agliodbs | and this is this backup admins first time |
| 21:14.48 | Lennie | agliodbs, I can help you out |
| 21:14.58 | Lennie | If that person participated last year for an org you were in |
| 21:15.08 | agliodbs | I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm looking for a way to save the application |
| 21:15.10 | agliodbs | hmmm |
| 21:15.13 | agliodbs | I'm not sure they did |
| 21:15.25 | Lennie | Then they might not even have an account on the website yet |
| 21:15.38 | Lennie | pm me their mail adres |
| 21:15.42 | Lennie | address |
| 21:16.28 | agliodbs | thombrown@gmail.com |
| 21:17.42 | agliodbs | Lennie: never mind, I got the linkID on the 6th guess |
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| 21:18.42 | Lennie | k |
| 21:18.46 | agliodbs | thanks |
| 21:19.17 | gevaerts | considers making sure he has a current account so he can sell his services as a backup admin when the deadline approaches :) |
| 21:19.29 | Lennie | gevaerts, :P |
| 21:20.27 | agliodbs | hmmm ... I wasn't admin last year |
| 21:20.43 | agliodbs | but I vaguely remember that we were supposed to list mentors as part of the application. no? |
| 21:21.18 | meflin | I didn't see that on this years app .. |
| 21:21.21 | carols | agliodbs: mentors? no. although we do recommend you suggest who will mentor each project on your idea page. |
| 21:21.37 | meflin | that we do :) |
| 21:21.40 | dhaun | agliodbs: my memory is vague there too, but that may have been way back, before Melange |
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| 22:48.50 | gsocbot | edsiper: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
| 22:50.53 | snighs | is getting selected very difficult? |
| 22:51.55 | edsiper | snighs, as student or organization ? |
| 22:52.04 | snighs | as a student |
| 22:52.31 | carols | snighs: how do you define difficult? |
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| 22:54.57 | snighs | @carols, i am not doing my major in Computer Science, but I study it as a minor. so, if i study the project i am applying for properly, and form a decent proposal, then, are my chances good? |
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| 22:55.54 | carols | snighs: are you interested and passionate about developing open source software, independent of GSoC? |
| 22:56.32 | edsiper | snighs, as an ex-participant student i would say... it does not depends of your grade or what are you studying, mostly about what are you capable to do and how motivated you are |
| 22:57.01 | snighs | carols,yes! i definitely am |
| 22:57.32 | carols | snighs: great, then you should speak to the organization you'd like to work with and go from there |
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| 22:57.40 | carols | i assume you've read the student manual? |
| 22:57.57 | snighs | edisper, thanks! |
| 22:58.22 | agliodbs | hey, carols! |
| 22:58.27 | carols | hey agliodbs |
| 22:58.39 | snighs | carols, yes i have read the student manual quite thoroughly. :) |
| 22:58.45 | carols | great |
| 23:01.29 | snighs | carols, i shall do that. thanks |
| 23:06.46 | cinemascop89 | edisper: what is the average ammount of time you had to work each day? |
| 23:08.03 | ojwb | cinemascop89: expect the equivalent of a full time job for the coding period |
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| 23:09.10 | cinemascop89 | ojwb: thanks! working 5 days a week? |
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| 23:10.27 | DrakeB | Hello All, I have a quick question, |
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| 23:10.38 | DrakeB | I tried emailing: google-summer-of-code-discuss@googlegroups.com with a question, |
| 23:10.40 | ojwb | that's up to the org and you to agree |
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| 23:11.34 | DrakeB | and was not able to successfully send a email to that account, did anyone else have any trouble with this? |
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| 23:11.36 | cinemascop89 | ojwb: ok. |
| 23:11.49 | carols | DrakeB: are you a member? |
| 23:12.13 | DrakeB | I am not sure |
| 23:12.27 | carols | DrakeB: well, you should check. |
| 23:15.02 | DrakeB | I am interested in speaking with someone from google about organization applications. Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? |
| 23:15.12 | carols | DrakeB: sure, how can i help you? |
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| 23:25.46 | DrakeB | Thank you all again for your time and for pointing me in the right direction (specifically carols) |
| 23:25.49 | DrakeB | Best of luck to you all |
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