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`00:06.40`	`Borgirius`	`Hey there!`
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`00:08.42`	`Borgirius`	`So, anyone discussing ideas around here?`
`00:09.22`	`eoc`	`!anyone`
`00:09.23`	`socinfo`	`eoc: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here>`
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`01:23.04`	`xleyzar`	`hello ! when do we have to send the document to google that we are students ?`
`01:23.57`	`amstan`	`xleyzar: probably when you apply`
`01:24.13`	`amstan`	`is another student`
`01:24.18`	`solardiz`	`xleyzar: i think upon google's request (but this answer is not authoritative)`
`01:25.14`	`xleyzar`	`so i can apply, and if i get accepted, then google will request the document?`
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`01:25.46`	`solardiz`	`xleyzar: yes, and i think they "might" rather than necessarily "will" request it`
`01:27.02`	`xleyzar`	`ok.thx i thought that we must send it till 29th, cause it did not specify anywhere`
`01:27.13`	`amstan`	`!timeline`
`01:27.13`	`socinfo`	`amstan: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz`
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`01:27.44`	`amstan`	`xleyzar: there's no due date on 29th`
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`01:59.19`	`eakuefner`	`So suppose there are two projects for which I would like to submit proposals. Do I have any say in which one I get accepted into, if I do get accepted?`
`02:02.03`	`thebolt`	`eakuefner: possibly not. if a student is accepted to multiple proposals (not very common but happens) there is a "conflict resolution meeting" among the organisations.. if possible they will ask the students, if not they will just make a decision`
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`02:02.58`	`ojwb`	`eakuefner: if you wouldn't be happy doing either project, don't apply for both`
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`02:03.21`	`eakuefner`	`Alright. Thanks, that's clear. I'd be equally happy doing either project, really.`
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`02:24.46`	`aj__`	`hey all.. is anybody here interested in contributing to Drizzle`
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`02:37.43`	`b_sen`	`Question: Is the age requirement strict? I turn 18 near the end of the summer (before the final evaluation deadline).`
`02:37.57`	`amstan`	`b_sen: from what i heard before in here, it is`
`02:38.58`	`scorche`	`b_sen: yes, it is`
`02:39.31`	`b_sen`	`Oh, ok`
`02:39.44`	`scorche`	`b_sen: employment things get complicated with what the US considers minors..`
`02:40.04`	`solardiz`	`b_sen: perhaps get involved with an accepted org's project this year and apply for gsoc next year (if they're accepted again)`
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`02:40.42`	`b_sen`	`I'm in Canada, which probably makes it more complicated`
`02:40.56`	`b_sen`	`@solardiz: I might try that...`
`02:41.04`	`scorche`	`b_sen: you should!`
`02:41.05`	`Landon`	`tracked down the elusive allisterb`
`02:41.25`	`solardiz`	`b_sen: i think it will greatly improve your chances of being accepted next year (maybe from 30% to 90%)`
`02:41.56`	`b_sen`	`Thanks... now to convince my parents of that...`
`02:42.01`	`scorche`	`it certainly will improve your skills as well, but i would be cautious about giving numbers like 90% ;)`
`02:42.12`	`scorche`	`what do your parents have to do with it?`
`02:42.36`	`solardiz`	`b_sen: you don't have to spend as much time during the summer as you would while working under gsoc`
`02:42.47`	`[mharrison]`	`Good day!`
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`02:43.22`	`b_sen`	`I know, my parents just like micromanaging me... it's really annoying`
`02:43.43`	`ojwb`	`30% isn't really a good measure of your "chances"`
`02:43.54`	`ojwb`	`if you write a poor proposal, you stand no chance`
`02:44.17`	`solardiz`	`ok, my guesstimates were subjective and made under certain assumptions, which might not hold`
`02:44.17`	`ojwb`	`if you write a good one, it's much better than dividing the number of places by number of applicants`
`02:44.34`	`scorche`	`solardiz: it is better to just say "will likely improce your chances"`
`02:44.39`	`ojwb`	`there's a significant number of applications each year which just get culled quickly`
`02:44.41`	`scorche`	`improve`
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`02:51.33`	`Daedalus789`	`Hello ?`
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`03:21.14`	`techbreak`	`hi`
`03:21.27`	`techbreak`	`I am finishing my degree in juny.. can I appyly for gsoc ?`
`03:22.05`	`techbreak`	`in the terms it says I need to be in an institution to apply... is it true that i need to be in institution until i finish my gsoc period ?`
`03:22.20`	`Triskelios`	`techbreak: this exact question is in the FAQ`
`03:22.35`	`ojwb`	`!eligible`
`03:22.36`	`socinfo`	`ojwb: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT)`
`03:22.38`	`Triskelios`	`techbreak: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#graduate`
`03:22.44`	`ojwb`	`techbreak: ^ that should make it completely clear`
`03:23.43`	`techbreak`	`ojwb: Triskelios bay april 25 i ll be in college`
`03:23.49`	`techbreak`	`but in june i am graduating`
`03:23.58`	`techbreak`	`so that means i can apply`
`03:24.02`	`ojwb`	`does the flowchart ask what you are doing in june?`
`03:24.35`	`techbreak`	`ojwb:flowchart ?`
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`03:24.50`	`ojwb`	`<socinfo> ojwb: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv [...]`
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`03:25.55`	`ojwb`	`it's the date in april which matters`
`03:26.18`	`techbreak`	`ojwb: :)`
`03:26.21`	`techbreak`	`now I can`
`03:26.49`	`amstan`	`so sketchy.. lol`
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`03:39.24`	`Adrastus5`	`so do we make up projects? or try to solve the ones they post on the ideas?`
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`03:39.37`	`wtachi`	`Adrastus5: either way`
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`03:50.52`	`ojwb`	`Adrastus5: you can also take an idea from the list and adapt it`
`03:51.08`	`ojwb`	`different orgs will have different outlooks on what they're after`
`03:51.30`	`ojwb`	`and some ideas are more fully formed that others`
`03:53.52`	`rrix`	`notices that two orgs still haven't finished their profile, lol`
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`03:57.43`	`ojwb`	`rrix: progress - it was 3 yesterday`
`03:58.19`	`ojwb`	`given the competition to get an org slot, it seems pretty poor form not to have done so yet`
`03:58.48`	`scorche`	`though, real life does happen`
`03:59.13`	`ojwb`	`it does, but it is a five minute job at most`
`03:59.31`	`ojwb`	`wonders why they don't just ask those questions in the application`
`03:59.36`	`ojwb`	`some of them are I think`
`03:59.46`	`ojwb`	`then we'd skip this step afterwards`
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`04:03.29`	`rrix`	`Yeah, i was curious about that myself`
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`04:03.54`	`rrix`	`In fact, a few of the questions were in the app, but not transferred to that profile, iirc`
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`08:26.32`	`Aakash`	`I have a doubt`
`08:26.55`	`Aakash`	`If I have selected a mentoring organisation for me, how should I approach tem`
`08:27.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`However they tell you to on their ideas page.`
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`08:34.17`	`kai`	`morning folks`
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`08:34.45`	`MatthewWilkes`	`morning kai`
`08:34.50`	`kai`	`hey MatthewWilkes`
`08:35.28`	`thebolt`	`hi kai, MatthewWilkes`
`08:35.31`	`thebolt`	`how's it going?`
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`08:36.19`	`MatthewWilkes`	`tghe`
`08:36.23`	`MatthewWilkes`	`bah`
`08:36.40`	`MatthewWilkes`	`thebolt: Not so good, feel quite ill, just called in to work saying I wasn't going to come to the office`
`08:37.24`	`kai`	`hey thebolt`
`08:37.44`	`\|Kev\|`	`MatthewWilkes: Go to bed, get some rest, feel better.`
`08:38.48`	`MatthewWilkes`	`\|Kev\|: Did that all of yesterday, am lying down but not going to sleep I reckon`
`08:38.49`	`thebolt`	`MatthewWilkes: ohm too bad`
`08:39.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`MatthewWilkes: The last time I had something fluish, I was stuck in a Travelodge in London. Appreciate your own bed :)`
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`08:40.20`	`MatthewWilkes`	`It's not fluish, just feel a bit dodge`
`08:40.38`	`MatthewWilkes`	`I had what I can only assume was swine flu earlier this year, it's nothing compared to that`
`08:41.25`	`thebolt`	`i am coming down with a headache.. doing string parsing in C (with zero mem ory allocations possible)`
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`08:45.35`	`thebolt`	`(yea, and don't tell me about the right tool for the job etc etc yadda yadda :P)`
`08:46.07`	`Dark_Shikari`	`that doesn't sound too bad`
`08:46.20`	`Dark_Shikari`	`as long as "no memory allocations" doesn't mean something truly evil, like "no stack allocations".`
`08:47.08`	`thebolt`	`Dark_Shikari: nah, as long as the stack allocations are bounded (within a pretty small value, no deep recursions o other stupid things)`
`08:47.21`	`thebolt`	`and i can alloc temp buffers during startup`
`08:47.28`	`Dark_Shikari`	`should be fine as long as your language is LL-1 or similar`
`08:47.51`	`thebolt`	`and the data format is pretty hard specified, it is just a stream of "sentences" with fixed start and end delimiters, max ~200 characters each`
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`08:49.13`	`Dark_Shikari`	`strtok is implemented without malloc iirc`
`08:49.16`	`Dark_Shikari`	`so that shouldn't be hard`
`08:49.41`	`Dark_Shikari`	`just search for the next delimiter, then null it`
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`08:51.21`	`thebolt`	`yep, except strtok won't let me handle "empty" substrings.. it is really quite simple parsing once you figured it out`
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`08:51.25`	`thebolt`	`but i hate stirngs :P`
`08:51.28`	`thebolt`	`strings*`
`08:53.08`	`Dark_Shikari`	`at least you don't have to handle utf-8`
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`08:54.20`	`thebolt`	`no, lluckily`
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`09:56.56`	`oopsingh`	`hi`
`09:57.32`	`\|Kev\|`	`Good morning.`
`09:57.57`	`oopsingh`	`any one can please tell me how apply for any project`
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`09:58.14`	`Syberia`	`find project`
`09:58.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`!faq`
`09:58.23`	`socinfo`	`\|Kev\|: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf`
`09:58.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`oopsingh: ^`
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`10:20.07`	`oopsingh`	`is there any one available`
`10:20.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`oopsingh: Yes, I already answered your question.`
`10:20.49`	`oopsingh`	`k`
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`10:22.20`	`koda\|gsoc`	`!timeline`
`10:22.20`	`socinfo`	`koda\|gsoc: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz`
`10:22.51`	`SITZ`	`!next`
`10:22.51`	`socinfo`	`SITZ: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations.`
`10:24.56`	`SITZ`	`help !`
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`10:25.38`	`\|Kev\|`	`People can only help you if you say what you want help with.`
`10:26.28`	`SITZ`	`\|Kev\|: oops.. sorry .. i was checking the commands starting with ! in this channel :\|`
`10:26.44`	`SITZ`	`how can I do that ?`
`10:27.08`	`\|Kev\|`	`I'd try sending a PM with !help to the bot, see if that works.`
`10:27.29`	`SITZ`	`I mean I wanted to know what are the commands that the bot answers like !timeline, !next etc ?`
`10:27.43`	`SITZ`	`\|Kev\|: ok...`
`10:28.58`	`MatthewWilkes`	`SITZ: Message the bot with: factoids search #gsoc *`
`10:30.53`	`SITZ`	`MatthewWilkes: ok.. thanks :)`
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`10:32.28`	`kai`	`hehe, I forgot about this one...`
`10:32.30`	`kai`	`!no`
`10:32.30`	`socinfo`	`kai: "no" is no, you cannot have a deadline extension. have a cookie instead.`
`10:32.51`	`apurvtwr`	`:)`
`10:32.54`	`aghisla`	`:D`
`10:33.17`	`brik`	`I'll go for the cookie`
`10:33.25`	`SITZ`	`lol`
`10:33.38`	`gevaerts`	`wants an extended cookie!`
`10:33.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`Ok, but you'll have to use a new namespace.`
`10:33.51`	`MatthewWilkes`	`!tea and cookies`
`10:33.51`	`socinfo`	`MatthewWilkes: "tea and cookies" is om nom nom`
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`10:45.03`	`kodoque`	`Anyone here lurking an org irc but too scared to ask question? : - D`
`10:45.56`	`MatthewWilkes`	`kodoque: Speaking as a mentor/org admin - please ask the question`
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`10:55.35`	`oopsingh`	`!timeline`
`10:55.35`	`socinfo`	`oopsingh: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz`
`10:57.00`	`oopsingh`	`!`
`10:57.10`	`oopsingh`	`!help`
`10:57.11`	`socinfo`	`oopsingh: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.`
`10:57.51`	`oopsingh`	`help`
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`11:02.23`	`apurvtwr`	`!soc`
`11:02.44`	`gevaerts`	`!gsoc`
`11:02.44`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums`
`11:02.58`	`gevaerts`	`Maybe not what you wanted to know :)`
`11:03.07`	`apurvtwr`	`haha..`
`11:03.52`	`apurvtwr`	`what is Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums?`
`11:04.05`	`gevaerts`	`Not gsoc!`
`11:04.13`	`apurvtwr`	`that's for sure`
`11:04.14`	`apurvtwr`	`:)`
`11:04.34`	`gevaerts`	`That one is there because sometimes people tend to ask here about anything that happens to be hosted on code.google.com`
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`11:04.56`	`apurvtwr`	`aah`
`11:05.41`	`apurvtwr`	`!yes`
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`11:06.19`	`apurvtwr`	`so it has an answer for no... but not for yes... :)`
`11:06.23`	`apurvtwr`	`!no`
`11:06.23`	`socinfo`	`apurvtwr: "no" is no, you cannot have a deadline extension. have a cookie instead.`
`11:06.44`	`gsathya`	`takes the cookie`
`11:07.49`	`gevaerts`	`!learn yes as Here, have a cookie!`
`11:07.49`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`11:07.55`	`gevaerts`	`There, fixed :)`
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`11:08.29`	`apurvtwr`	`:D`
`11:08.47`	`apurvtwr`	`good... p or !p .. i can always have a cookie`
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`11:14.38`	`akshayagarwal`	`Students are allowed to apply to multiple organizations, so in the unlikely event of student getting selected in two or more organizations, what resolution do we adopt?`
`11:15.04`	`\|Kev\|`	`As an org? Attend the conflict meeting.`
`11:15.24`	`gevaerts`	`Well, you should try to resolve it before that`
`11:15.30`	`\|Kev\|`	`True, true.`
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`11:16.07`	`akshayagarwal`	`As a student?`
`11:16.32`	`gevaerts`	`Usually the orgs will contact you and ask what you prefer`
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`11:17.12`	`gevaerts`	`They may decide amongst themselves though, contacting the student is not required`
`11:17.54`	`akshayagarwal`	`So, there's no liablities on the student side in applying to multiple organizations?`
`11:18.12`	`\|Kev\|`	`Only the requirement to do a good job with each of your applications.`
`11:18.48`	`akshayagarwal`	`Sure, :)`
`11:21.36`	`kai`	`and that you are fine with doing any of the proposals`
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`11:22.30`	`gevaerts`	`Yes, don't propose something you don't actually want to do :)`
`11:23.48`	`eakuefner`	`Man, are any of you people on the west coast of the US?`
`11:24.16`	`eakuefner`	`It's _late_. Or early, I guess. I just finished talking to some people from CERN about a potential SoC proposal. The time difference could be weird.`
`11:24.24`	`apurvtwr`	`what details of the project are necessary to be mentioned in the project proposal?`
`11:24.42`	`sumanah`	`apurvtwr: the organization usually has a template you can follow`
`11:25.02`	`sumanah`	`apurvtwr: for example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011/Application_template`
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`11:25.49`	`apurvtwr`	`thanks.. that answers it`
`11:26.41`	`sumanah`	`apurvtwr: the book http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/what-is-google-summer-of-code/ might be helpful`
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`11:27.23`	`sumanah`	`akshayagarwal: hi!`
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`11:29.57`	`akshayagarwal`	`Hi sumanah`
`11:31.07`	`sumanah`	`happy writing :)`
`11:32.17`	`akshayagarwal`	`:) I m working on it`
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`13:47.50`	`pygi`	`so folks!`
`13:47.58`	`pygi`	`who would like to work on burning stuff this summer?!`
`13:48.16`	`gevaerts`	`burned his fingers recently`
`13:48.33`	`pygi`	`I'm 99% that I'll be a mentor this year =)`
`13:49.13`	`elricL`	`which org?`
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`13:49.41`	`pygi`	`elricL: GNOME`
`13:50.14`	`elricL`	`pygi, nice. I might apply to GNOME.`
`13:51.04`	`masquerade`	`pygi: what project(s) are you going to be mentoring?`
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`13:51.10`	`pygi`	`asleo`
`13:51.12`	`pygi`	`ergh`
`13:51.15`	`pygi`	`masquerade: related to burning`
`13:51.25`	`pygi`	`making brasero use libburnia libs by default`
`13:51.45`	`masquerade`	`cool`
`13:51.51`	`bobbens`	`people still use optical media? :)`
`13:52.12`	`masquerade`	`I do as of a couple weeks ago again.`
`13:52.14`	`pygi`	`bobbens: yes`
`13:52.20`	`thebolt`	`crazy people`
`13:52.29`	`masquerade`	`My cellphone died, now I need to actually burn music to CDs to listen to them in my car.`
`13:52.31`	`gevaerts`	`The optical media may be simulated`
`13:52.50`	`pygi`	`thebolt: well, libburnia libs/apps are used to generate debian ISOs as well`
`13:52.55`	`gevaerts`	`And if you're interested in such simulation, I might be interested in mentoring you :)`
`13:53.17`	`masquerade`	`gevaerts: what types of simulation? :)`
`13:53.23`	`bobbens`	`gevaerts: what project?`
`13:53.46`	`pygi`	`rockbox`
`13:53.48`	`pygi`	`dont trust him!`
`13:53.51`	`pygi`	`his tasks are evil`
`13:53.54`	`pygi`	`wait, he's evil!`
`13:53.55`	`pygi`	`:D`
`13:53.59`	`gevaerts`	`masquerade: one of the ideas on our (rockbox) ideas page is to simulate a CDROM drive by feeding an iso file`
`13:54.09`	`gevaerts`	`hm, that's not expressed right`
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`13:54.41`	`gevaerts`	`"This project would add support for exporting a disk image file over USB instead of the usual raw disk, and would extend the SCSI handling to present a CDROM device instead of a hard disk. This would allow users to store iso images on a rockbox player, and use the player as a virtual CDROM drive"`
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`13:56.03`	`gevaerts`	`This can be extended to also support burning`
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`13:57.20`	`pygi`	`gevaerts: usingo ur libraries of course :p`
`13:57.25`	`pygi`	`iscsi burning!`
`13:57.49`	`gevaerts`	`pygi: if you want iscsi on rockbox, your first task will be to provide a network stack :)`
`13:57.57`	`pygi`	`o my`
`13:58.02`	`pygi`	`you're making stuff problematic for me!#`
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`13:58.19`	`thebolt`	`hehe :P`
`13:58.35`	`kai`	`hehe`
`13:58.40`	`gevaerts`	`pygi: our devices don't commonly have networking hardware at all :)`
`13:58.47`	`gevaerts`	`So you'd have to do that over USB too`
`13:58.52`	`pygi`	`gevaerts: ya ya, haha`
`13:58.52`	`thebolt`	`gevaerts: sounds a bit like my job.. "oh, you want to parse data from gps.. well, begin by writing a serial port driver" ;)`
`13:58.53`	`pygi`	`:D`
`13:59.10`	`kai`	`sounds fun`
`13:59.17`	`pygi`	`thebolt: heh, so far gevaerts told me to write burning stuff, usb subsystem and network subsystem`
`13:59.24`	`pygi`	`soon I expect him to ask me to write the entire kernel`
`13:59.40`	`gevaerts`	`pygi: USB code is there`
`13:59.54`	`pygi`	`why did you ask me to write it then? o.o`
`14:00.04`	`gevaerts`	`I didn't!`
`14:00.13`	`pygi`	`ergh do you want me to grep logs?!`
`14:00.27`	`\|Kev\|`	`Yes.`
`14:00.35`	`\|Kev\|`	`First write a grep implementation to do it with :)`
`14:00.37`	`gevaerts`	`If you want networking, you may want to do a USB networking thing, but that's not an entire USB susbsystem!`
`14:00.50`	`pygi`	`\|Kev\|: :D`
`14:01.02`	`pygi`	`I don't like you!`
`14:01.23`	`pygi`	`tho that sounds easier than a networking subsystem for rockbox`
`14:01.30`	`gevaerts`	`Seriously though, this CDROM project would mainly involve reading SCSI specs and implementing commands in an already existing USB mass storage framework`
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`14:01.41`	`Talad`	`Hi`
`14:01.52`	`pygi`	`gevaerts: is there a reason why libburnia couldnt be extended to run on rockbox?`
`14:01.55`	`Talad`	`I have a question on student<->idea`
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`14:02.06`	`Talad`	`let's say we have 3-4 students who apply for the same idea`
`14:02.28`	`Talad`	`who will decide to keep just one or to move one to another idea and when/`
`14:02.28`	`Talad`	`?`
`14:02.34`	`thebolt`	`you?`
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`14:02.55`	`\|Kev\|`	`If you're the org admin, it's your responsibility to make sure you have appropriate projects lined up.`
`14:03.04`	`thebolt`	`you decide which students (and which proposals from them) to accept`
`14:03.17`	`Talad`	`\|Kev\|: isn't google filtering the students before the org?`
`14:03.21`	`thebolt`	`no`
`14:03.22`	`ojwb`	`no`
`14:03.30`	`ojwb`	`they only care about eligibility`
`14:03.31`	`dberkholz`	`google delegates everything to you`
`14:03.46`	`Talad`	`well, I know they assign the slots`
`14:03.53`	`Talad`	`I assumed slot = student`
`14:03.55`	`ojwb`	`that's just a number`
`14:03.56`	`thebolt`	`but that is just a number`
`14:04.00`	`Talad`	`ok, great`
`14:04.05`	`Talad`	`that simplifies the whole thing a lot`
`14:04.18`	`thebolt`	`not sure I agree with that, but yea ;)`
`14:04.25`	`dberkholz`	`fyi, there is no good way to ensure that only 1 student will get picked for a given idea without fiddling around manually in your rankings`
`14:04.25`	`ojwb`	`it does for carols`
`14:04.30`	`dberkholz`	`so keep an eye out for that`
`14:04.33`	`gevaerts`	`pygi: well, apart from "does it make sense?", probably not`
`14:04.36`	`ojwb`	`otherwise she'd have to pick 1000+ students and where to send them`
`14:04.56`	`thebolt`	`dberkholz: depends a bit on how many slots & students you have though`
`14:05.04`	`dberkholz`	`indeed, it's easier with less`
`14:05.15`	`ojwb`	`Talad: bear in mind that students you want may also be wanted elsewhere`
`14:05.16`	`thebolt`	`dberkholz: if you are a pretty small org it is no major problem really`
`14:05.22`	`dberkholz`	`it seems to increase at least with n**2`
`14:05.26`	`ojwb`	`so you may have to keep some spares lined up`
`14:05.34`	`thebolt`	`dberkholz: probably yea`
`14:05.35`	`Talad`	`dberkholz: "there is no good way to ensure that only 1 student will get picked for a given idea" <- if the org is picking the students, then what's the problem?`
`14:05.35`	`dberkholz`	`i spent hours trying to work that out last year when we got a lot bigger, vs previous years`
`14:05.42`	`dberkholz`	`where it was no issue`
`14:05.58`	`dberkholz`	`Talad: well, if you're just going to assign students to arbitrary projects where they don't necessarily have interest or skills, it works fine. =)`
`14:06.23`	`Talad`	`no, each student fills a proposal`
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`14:06.30`	`Talad`	`which contains what they want to work on`
`14:06.35`	`dberkholz`	`let's say you have 5 project ideas and 5 slots`
`14:06.37`	`Talad`	`so they surely have interest into that`
`14:06.38`	`ojwb`	`Talad: melange doesn't help you though`
`14:06.48`	`dberkholz`	`18 students apply for idea #1, and 2 students apply for ideas 2 and 3`
`14:06.53`	`Talad`	`ojwb: in that sense ok, we have our own internal site for that`
`14:06.58`	`Talad`	`all students are registered there`
`14:07.03`	`Talad`	`with their association to ideas`
`14:07.12`	`Talad`	`so I don't need melange to solve that for me`
`14:07.16`	`ojwb`	`yes, but it's the ranking in melange which determines which students you get`
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`14:07.24`	`ojwb`	`so that ranking needs to be right`
`14:07.36`	`Talad`	`ojwb: who enters the ranking?`
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`14:07.40`	`\|Kev\|`	`You do.`
`14:07.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`The admins and mentors.`
`14:07.48`	`ojwb`	`and there's nothing to stop the ranking having multiple students on the same idea`
`14:07.48`	`Talad`	`well, then should be ok`
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`14:07.59`	`ojwb`	`it's fine with half a dozen`
`14:08.04`	`ojwb`	`I imagine it's hell with 50+`
`14:08.08`	`Talad`	`ok, I understand that part`
`14:08.16`	`Talad`	`if you do your ranking wrong it's a problem`
`14:08.21`	`ojwb`	`because they can choose the proposal title, so it may not be at all similar`
`14:08.35`	`Talad`	`so basically 1 student per rank, for each of your ideas, and then again`
`14:08.48`	`Talad`	`so you are sure the slots are in the right order`
`14:08.50`	`Talad`	`got it`
`14:08.54`	`\|Kev\|`	`No.`
`14:08.56`	`thebolt`	`ranking isn't per idea, but global`
`14:09.02`	`\|Kev\|`	`Exactly.`
`14:09.08`	`ojwb`	`and then a student gets taken by a different org`
`14:09.08`	`Talad`	`ranking is as I place them`
`14:09.12`	`Talad`	`and I place them in order of idea`
`14:09.14`	`ojwb`	`and the whole thing changes`
`14:09.29`	`Talad`	`ojwb: that's a good point`
`14:09.44`	`ojwb`	`it'll all work out, but you need to watch it closely`
`14:09.47`	`Talad`	`so if by chance all the ones of idea X1 are taken from others`
`14:09.50`	`Talad`	`I will have duplicates`
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`14:10.15`	`Talad`	`I read there is a meeting to solve conflicts anyway`
`14:10.19`	`ojwb`	`it's actually allowed for two student to work on the same idea, but I've never met any admins or mentors who think it's a good idea`
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`14:10.28`	`thebolt`	`basically, what we have done previous years, is to have a meeting where we decide on N*2 students we would like to accept.. then post the meeting we do all ranking to put them in order (but we ever had 7 slots at most i think.. maybe fewer.. )`
`14:10.35`	`ojwb`	`indepently that is`
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`14:11.20`	`ojwb`	`but essentially you know only one will get merged at most at the end`
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`14:11.36`	`\|Kev\|`	`ojwb: We actually have one idea this year where that'd work to our advantage, but right, in the general case it's suboptimal.`
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`14:12.00`	`ojwb`	`well, I've never met \|Kev\| AFAIK!`
`14:12.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`Good point, well made.`
`14:12.36`	`koda\|gsoc`	`umh i'm courious, from what is determined the number of slots`
`14:12.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`koda\|gsoc: Magic.`
`14:12.58`	`ojwb`	`http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations`
`14:13.06`	`ojwb`	`i assume it's still much the same`
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`14:13.09`	`\|Kev\|`	`Also: How many overall applications you get, past performance, etc etc.`
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`14:13.31`	`kai`	`!slots`
`14:13.31`	`socinfo`	`kai: "slots" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/site/site/studentallocations`
`14:13.45`	`koda\|gsoc`	`thanks`
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`14:13.48`	`ojwb`	`site/site ?!`
`14:14.05`	`ojwb`	`ooh, I hadn't seen the newer version`
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`14:14.31`	`koda\|gsoc`	`but when are we notified of how many slots we get?`
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`14:14.49`	`ojwb`	`after student apps are closed`
`14:15.04`	`Zor`	`how exactly are payments done in GSoC?`
`14:15.06`	`raincole__`	`hello, everyone.`
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`14:15.16`	`gevaerts`	`Well, first you're asked to confirm how many slots you want`
`14:15.25`	`ojwb`	`if you're a new org, you're unlikely to get more than 5, according to the mentoring manual at least`
`14:15.30`	`ojwb`	`if that helps planning`
`14:15.37`	`koda\|gsoc`	`thanks :)`
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`14:16.06`	`ojwb`	`Zor: for students or orgs?`
`14:16.24`	`Zor`	`ojwb: students`
`14:16.34`	`ojwb`	`you get a prepay credit card`
`14:16.56`	`ojwb`	`which you should be able to use in a local ATM`
`14:16.57`	`\|Kev\|`	`Ah, they're doing that again this year?`
`14:17.07`	`ojwb`	`well, i assume so`
`14:17.17`	`\|Kev\|`	`Back in my day... ;)`
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`14:17.20`	`ojwb`	`lh said it was the best solution they could find`
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`14:17.29`	`ojwb`	`and she'd spent a lot of time looking`
`14:17.34`	`Zor`	`ok, so pardon my ignorance (I have no idea about this stuff) - will local tax laws apply on that?`
`14:17.41`	`\|Kev\|`	`Zor: Yes.`
`14:17.54`	`raincole__`	`what graphic software do you recommend? I'm using ubuntu.`
`14:18.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`!poll`
`14:18.03`	`\|Kev\|`	`!polls`
`14:18.03`	`socinfo`	`\|Kev\|: "polls" is Please don't use #gsoc to do polls.`
`14:18.18`	`gevaerts`	`Well, I'd say that local tax laws are the ones the ones that specify whether local tax laws apply`
`14:18.30`	`ojwb`	`socinfo: learn poll as Please don't use #gsoc to do polls.`
`14:18.30`	`socinfo`	`ojwb: The operation succeeded.`
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`14:19.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`!faq`
`14:19.43`	`socinfo`	`\|Kev\|: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf`
`14:19.46`	`\|Kev\|`	`nikhil88: ^`
`14:19.48`	`Talad`	`socinfo: learn anything as I tend to learn anything, but I think it's a bad idea`
`14:19.48`	`socinfo`	`Talad: The operation succeeded.`
`14:19.51`	`Talad`	`!anything`
`14:19.52`	`socinfo`	`Talad: "anything" is I tend to learn anything, but I think it's a bad idea`
`14:19.55`	`Talad`	`:)`
`14:20.02`	`Talad`	`you should not allow normal users to do that!`
`14:20.22`	`ojwb`	`or you should have more sense than to abuse the facility`
`14:20.38`	`Talad`	`I agree, but temptation was pretty high`
`14:20.48`	`Talad`	`and I assume it woudn't work`
`14:20.51`	`Talad`	`*assumed`
`14:21.00`	`ojwb`	`it's on your permanent record now`
`14:21.23`	`gevaerts`	`Yes. You'll never get rid of the stigma!`
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`14:21.30`	`jay_`	`:(`
`14:21.31`	`Talad`	`it's a pretty cool one`
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`14:21.51`	`Talad`	`you mean the system doesn't allow removal?`
`14:21.55`	`gevaerts`	`!forget Talad`
`14:21.55`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: Error: There is no such factoid.`
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`14:22.05`	`Talad`	`!forget anything`
`14:22.05`	`socinfo`	`Talad: The operation succeeded.`
`14:22.08`	`gevaerts`	`Talad: you've already been removed apparently :)`
`14:22.08`	`Talad`	`ah`
`14:22.23`	`Talad`	`well, then the system is pretty smart`
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`14:22.43`	`Talad`	`gevaerts: I'm sorry but your operation didn't succeed :)`
`14:22.52`	`Talad`	`do you have one about proposals?`
`14:22.56`	`Talad`	`I get that question all the time`
`14:23.01`	`Talad`	`!proposal`
`14:23.07`	`\|Kev\|`	`nikhil88: Scroll up to see what I said. There's no reason for you to be sending private messages for this.`
`14:23.29`	`\|Kev\|`	`Please read the FAQ`
`14:23.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`!faq`
`14:23.31`	`socinfo`	`\|Kev\|: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf`
`14:23.33`	`ojwb`	`it's bad ettiquette to PM uninvited`
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`14:23.53`	`ojwb`	`bad spelling too (etiquette)`
`14:23.54`	`gevaerts`	`Talad: there's a lot to say about proposals, I'm not sure if a single short factoid is going to be that useful :)`
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`14:24.45`	`bobbens`	`gevaerts: you could say that :P`
`14:24.53`	`Talad`	`socinfo: learn proposal as Every student has to submit one proposal for the idea he has chosen, the best way is to read the FAQ here which contains also examples: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app`
`14:24.53`	`socinfo`	`Talad: The operation succeeded.`
`14:24.57`	`Talad`	`!proposal`
`14:24.57`	`socinfo`	`Talad: "proposal" is Every student has to submit one proposal for the idea he has chosen, the best way is to read the FAQ here which contains also examples: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app`
`14:25.03`	`Talad`	`that's useful`
`14:25.08`	`ojwb`	`that's not true though`
`14:25.11`	`ojwb`	`they can submit up to 20`
`14:25.13`	`Talad`	`I got that question feom student a lot`
`14:25.14`	`gevaerts`	`I think it's misleading`
`14:25.21`	`Talad`	`mmmm...`
`14:25.22`	`ojwb`	`and the students aren't all male`
`14:25.22`	`Talad`	`ok`
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`14:25.43`	`Talad`	`socinfo: learn proposal as Every student has to submit proposal documents for the ideas he/she has chosen, the best way is to read the FAQ here which contains also examples: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app`
`14:25.43`	`socinfo`	`Talad: The operation succeeded.`
`14:25.54`	`Talad`	`that should be better then`
`14:26.02`	`gevaerts`	`!proposal`
`14:26.02`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: "proposal" is (#1) Every student has to submit one proposal for the idea he has chosen, the best way is to read the FAQ here which contains also examples: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app, or (#2) Every student has to submit proposal documents for the ideas he/she has chosen, the best way is to read the FAQ here which contains also examples: http://www (1 more message)`
`14:26.06`	`ojwb`	`socinfo: forget proposal 1`
`14:26.07`	`socinfo`	`ojwb: The operation succeeded.`
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`14:26.16`	`ojwb`	`stupid bot`
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`14:26.28`	`kai`	`program a better one?`
`14:26.36`	`Talad`	`seems too long`
`14:26.38`	`gevaerts`	`is tempted by "!learn proposal as I do" :)`
`14:26.39`	`\|Kev\|`	`Just pick one of he/she and stick with it, is my opinion. I don't mind if I read documents either way, but he/she and 'they' are just ugly workarounds.`
`14:26.40`	`Talad`	`he splitted it`
`14:26.59`	`ojwb`	`kai: it's easier to complain than to fix stuff`
`14:27.02`	`Talad`	`I think mine was ok`
`14:27.15`	`kai`	`ojwb: I can fix that, of course`
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`14:27.25`	`kai`	`>:)`
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`14:27.34`	`thebolt`	`kai: :)`
`14:27.41`	`ojwb`	`I'm being suppressed!`
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`14:27.49`	`thebolt`	`\|Kev\|: how about (s)he? :)`
`14:27.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`thebolt: Similarly.`
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`14:28.51`	`gevaerts`	`tends to agree with \|Kev\|, but he isn't sure what the consensus opinion is`
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`14:29.08`	`thebolt`	`btw, chinese got it right.. "he" and "she" is pronounced the same (different characters though).. only problem is that many native chinese speakers say wrong when they speak english`
`14:29.09`	`\|Kev\|`	`gevaerts: O'Reilly authors get told to pick one and stick with it, FWIW.`
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`14:34.19`	`dberkholz`	`i either word things so "they" doesn't sound awkward or go with the generic "he"`
`14:34.30`	`dberkholz`	`i find switching around or other awkwardness to be a major distraction`
`14:34.45`	`bobbens`	`english is flawed`
`14:34.51`	`aghisla`	`we could use it`
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`14:35.00`	`aghisla`	`we already use it for animals`
`14:35.07`	`bobbens`	`well it doesn't seem correct`
`14:35.13`	`aghisla`	`hmm`
`14:35.19`	`bobbens`	`but I guess you use it in the case of animals with undefined gender`
`14:35.24`	`bobbens`	`or multiple genders`
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`14:35.39`	`aghisla`	`well, as we don't care about genders, it should be fine, but i see your point`
`14:35.50`	`dberkholz`	`the alternative is to create use cases with actual people who you give names`
`14:35.55`	`gevaerts`	`!learn learn proposal as All students have to submit proposal documents for the ideas they have chosen. Read the FAQ at http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app for details and examples`
`14:35.55`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`14:35.59`	`dberkholz`	`that makes it a easier to switch around`
`14:36.08`	`gevaerts`	`!forget proposal 1`
`14:36.08`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`14:36.16`	`gevaerts`	`!proposal`
`14:36.16`	`bobbens`	`or we could all learn german`
`14:36.25`	`gevaerts`	`oops`
`14:36.32`	`gevaerts`	`!learn proposal as All students have to submit proposal documents for the ideas they have chosen. Read the FAQ at http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app for details and examples`
`14:36.32`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`14:36.37`	`gevaerts`	`!learn`
`14:36.37`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: Invalid arguments for learn.`
`14:36.43`	`gevaerts`	`!learn proposal`
`14:36.43`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: Invalid arguments for learn.`
`14:36.47`	`gevaerts`	`!"learn proposal"`
`14:36.48`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: "learn proposal" is All students have to submit proposal documents for the ideas they have chosen. Read the FAQ at http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app for details and examples`
`14:36.56`	`gevaerts`	`!forget "learn proposal"`
`14:36.57`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`14:37.38`	`gevaerts`	`should start being careful with !botabuse now...`
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`14:39.39`	`nickbarnesccf`	`candidate student just finished a Masters, has a place to start a PhD in a few months and in the meantime will be working as an RA at the PhD school. OK?`
`14:39.52`	`nickbarnesccf`	`(with documentation of PhD place)`
`14:40.05`	`nickbarnesccf`	`so many students!`
`14:44.57`	`Nightrose`	`dberkholz: \|Kev\|: let me know when you two are fine with the post - i'll ping ellen then unless one of you wants to`
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`14:45.19`	`\|Kev\|`	`Nightrose: I think it's getting close. There's a couple of outstanding comments to address, I think?`
`14:45.36`	`Nightrose`	`i don't think i have anything to add to the remaining ones`
`14:46.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`So not to split it, and to remove the couple from the last bit that haven't happened afawk?`
`14:47.28`	`Nightrose`	`yeah`
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`14:47.57`	`Nightrose`	`i mean i won't make a big fuzz if we split it`
`14:48.07`	`\|Kev\|`	`I wouldn't split it, by preference.`
`14:48.11`	`Nightrose`	`but i think it is 1 thing that should be together`
`14:51.51`	`\|Kev\|`	`Nightrose: I'd like to run through it again, but that looks good to me now.`
`14:52.05`	`Nightrose`	`ok`
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`14:56.47`	`abhi_`	`hey`
`14:58.43`	`dberkholz`	`Nightrose, \|Kev\|: let's sort out the 2nd admin section... i just left a comment there.`
`14:58.57`	`Nightrose`	`looking`
`14:59.05`	`dberkholz`	`i also want to flesh out the intro and conclusion a touch more`
`14:59.15`	`Nightrose`	`sure`
`14:59.19`	`dberkholz`	`but that's it. should be set later today`
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`15:01.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`I've ambled away from that machine now, I'll look again a bit later.`
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`15:02.08`	`dberkholz`	`\|Kev\|: my comment: "Thinking more about this, Iâm not sure anything really valuable (a.k.a. nonobvious) is here. Perhaps we should just delete the whole section..."`
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`15:17.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`dberkholz: The last section (barring the conclusion)? I'm happy for it to all go :)`
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`15:26.58`	`koda\|gsoc`	`a student is asking me this`
`15:27.05`	`koda\|gsoc`	`koda\|gsoc: it would be very nice (and transparent) to have a public list of current students/numbers for each idea.`
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`15:27.21`	`koda\|gsoc`	`for example, I'd better work an idea that is not so "crowded". :)`
`15:27.23`	`dberkholz`	`\|Kev\|: it's gone`
`15:27.34`	`\|Kev\|`	`dberkholz: Thanks.`
`15:27.37`	`koda\|gsoc`	`is there any policy about this?`
`15:27.38`	`gevaerts`	`koda\|gsoc: there doesn't actually have to be a clear mapping between proposals and ideas`
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`15:29.07`	`gevaerts`	`In general I personally think it's fine to provide numbers on your ideas list, but I'm not sure what those numbers would be`
`15:30.02`	`gevaerts`	`I mean, you want students to start now, but how do you count them? A student who talked a bit about a project isn't guaranteed at all to still be working on that idea`
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`16:26.10`	`Talad`	`question !!`
`16:26.30`	`Talad`	`can a student submit two proposals for the same organization on different ideas?`
`16:26.36`	`bobbens`	`yes`
`16:26.50`	`Talad`	`thanks bobbens`
`16:26.55`	`Talad`	`anyone else opinion?`
`16:27.08`	`bobbens`	`!faq`
`16:27.08`	`socinfo`	`bobbens: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf`
`16:27.15`	`bobbens`	`Talad: ^`
`16:27.25`	`Talad`	`that one does say it`
`16:27.28`	`Talad`	`or I didn't find it`
`16:27.38`	`Talad`	`"Yes, each student may submit up to twenty applications. "`
`16:27.41`	`Talad`	`that's what it says`
`16:27.48`	`Talad`	`but doesn't say if should be one for each org`
`16:27.51`	`Talad`	`or multiple`
`16:28.00`	`gevaerts`	`That means there's no limit per org`
`16:28.24`	`bobbens`	`theoretically I believe you can apply twice to the same idea`
`16:28.25`	`gevaerts`	`In theory a student could submit five proposals for the same idea, with e.g. different timelines or implementation languages`
`16:28.30`	`bobbens`	`or all 20 times to the same idea if you want :)`
`16:28.37`	`bobbens`	`gevaerts: damn, we think alike`
`16:28.49`	`bobbens`	`or might I say, stop stealing my ideas!`
`16:29.19`	`gevaerts`	`bobbens: How about you stop stealing mine?`
`16:29.32`	`gevaerts`	`thinks that the way this went is clear! :)`
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`16:34.57`	`lmarcetic`	`<bobbens> or might I say, stop stealing my ideas!`
`16:34.57`	`lmarcetic`	`<gevaerts> bobbens: How about you stop stealing mine?`
`16:35.05`	`lmarcetic`	`feels the free software vibe... not`
`16:36.25`	`lmarcetic`	`now that you've been properly scolded, a question: what's the proper format for the application? That one on booki, or should I take the organizations'?`
`16:36.59`	`kai`	`use whatever the org wants`
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`16:38.56`	`lmarcetic`	`kai, doesn't Google approve the applications?`
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`16:39.35`	`bobbens`	`lmarcetic: no, google trusts the organization`
`16:39.46`	`bobbens`	`google just gives out the slots`
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`16:40.16`	`\|Kev\|`	`lmarcetic: Not reading the FAQ? I feel the free software vibe... not.`
`16:40.56`	`lmarcetic`	`bobbens, hmm. interesting`
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`16:43.42`	`gevaerts`	`lmarcetic: since bobbens accused me first, I don't feel the need to defend myself any further :)`
`16:44.39`	`lmarcetic`	`bobbens, return the idea to gevaerts`
`16:45.38`	`kai`	`actually I have a business process patent on stealing ideas, so the both of you owe me money ;)`
`16:46.22`	`lmarcetic`	`kai, actually patent trolling is patented`
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`17:58.06`	`chandan_kumar`	`where i can apply as a student in gsoc 2011\`
`17:58.45`	`SukhE`	`!faq`
`17:58.45`	`socinfo`	`SukhE: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf`
`17:58.53`	`SukhE`	`chandan_kumar: Start with the FAQ.`
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`17:59.12`	`SukhE`	`Student applications open on 28th March`
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`18:00.34`	`Vikkeshri`	`chandan_kumar: do read the gsoc student guide`
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`18:00.59`	`chandan_kumar`	`Vikkeshri, yes i have`
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`18:01.41`	`mlankhorst`	`and brb, food`
`18:03.02`	`Vikkeshri`	`chandan_kumar: then u should know first u should find u an organization and get urself aquainted till 27th march`
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`18:03.48`	`Vikkeshri`	`and then u can submit your proposal(application) directly to gsoc`
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`18:26.54`	`kng`	`hi carlos`
`18:27.03`	`kng`	`sorry carols`
`18:27.08`	`carols`	`np`
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`18:27.43`	`kng`	`carol are you a mentor?`
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`18:28.01`	`carols`	`kng: i'm the gsoc program administrator`
`18:28.23`	`kng`	`ohkay`
`18:28.50`	`jljusten1`	`Hello. Is there any eta for being able to add mentors to projects again?`
`18:29.03`	`carols`	`SRabbelier should have that for you`
`18:29.10`	`gevaerts`	`looks around and decides to bring in fresh tea and coffee`
`18:29.24`	`carols`	`thanks gevaerts :-)`
`18:29.32`	`gevaerts`	`You're welcome :)`
`18:29.36`	`zaccone`	`hi guys. Can you point out any mentoring orgs that are somehow connected with networking and probably security, except for Honeynet? I have scanned orgs list but haven't found anything. Maybe I have missed something?`
`18:29.50`	`\|Kev\|`	`Depends at what level.`
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`18:30.03`	`\|Kev\|`	`At the application level there are probably several (including mine).`
`18:30.08`	`carols`	`zaccone: the fibercorps people are working in networking`
`18:30.12`	`kng`	`@carols : I have to ask that who are the mentors for Openwall Projects?`
`18:30.24`	`carols`	`kng: you should ask them that :-)`
`18:30.29`	`carols`	`they may be listed on their ideas pages`
`18:30.52`	`kng`	`they are not`
`18:31.02`	`kng`	`that's why i am asking`
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`18:31.12`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: what's yours?`
`18:31.15`	`carols`	`kng: have you tried their irc channel and mailing list?`
`18:31.16`	`\|Kev\|`	`There should be some contact details on the ideas page.`
`18:31.18`	`kng`	`even the projects are not clearly stated`
`18:31.22`	`\|Kev\|`	`zaccone: XMPP Standards Foundation.`
`18:31.42`	`joren02`	`I've got a question: Is it possible to apply if you got exams the first month of the program?`
`18:31.57`	`joren02`	`(as student that is)`
`18:32.01`	`kng`	`carols where can i find there irc channel?`
`18:32.07`	`\|Kev\|`	`joren02: Yes, mention it in your application and discuss it with the org. You may be able to sort something out (like starting early or such).`
`18:32.13`	`gevaerts`	`joren02: yes. Make sure you make this clear, and try to provide some ideas on how to work around this`
`18:32.28`	`carols`	`kng: on their organization profile they will list their preferred method of communication`
`18:32.31`	`joren02`	`ok tnx`
`18:32.39`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: ah,ok. Well, I mean something lower like implementing IPv6 stack in some libraries.`
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`18:32.52`	`gevaerts`	`A common solution is to start during the community bonding period, and to work a bit more after your exams`
`18:32.57`	`\|Kev\|`	`Right, I did say we were at the application level :)`
`18:33.02`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: or rather building a newer version of one of the libraries.`
`18:33.14`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: i know i know.`
`18:33.20`	`thiago_home`	`implementing IPv6 is a hot topic this year`
`18:33.27`	`joren02`	`the community bonding period is right on the day of my first exam lol`
`18:33.38`	`joren02`	`starting*`
`18:33.41`	`gevaerts`	`When are your exams?`
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`18:33.55`	`joren02`	`23 may - 20/27 june`
`18:34.16`	`zaccone`	`i didn't mean onlu ipv6 stack.`
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`18:34.23`	`zaccone`	`s/onlu/only/`
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`18:34.41`	`gevaerts`	`joren02: well, the community bonding period ends then, yes`
`18:34.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`The library I use should work fine with IPv6 already, I hope :)`
`18:35.04`	`gevaerts`	`Anyway, make sure you mention this in the application and talk to the organisation about it`
`18:35.29`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: what lib?`
`18:35.38`	`joren02`	`ok thanx`
`18:37.03`	`gevaerts`	`!learn exams as If your exams overlap the gsoc coding period, you can still apply. Make sure you mention the issue in your application, and discuss it with the organisation. A common workaround is to start work early, during the community bonding period, and to do a bit more than the normal 40 hours per week after the exams.`
`18:37.03`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
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`18:37.10`	`gevaerts`	`That should help`
`18:37.59`	`\|Kev\|`	`zaccone: http://swift.im/swiften`
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`18:39.46`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`Ugh...how is it general usage apps are bringing my quad core laptop to its knees? :P`
`18:40.11`	`kng`	`carols: I am sorry but I could not still find any method communication with Openwall`
`18:40.17`	`bobbens`	`CrawfordComeaux: it's the future! :)`
`18:40.40`	`zaccone`	`\|Kev\|: so this lib has an ipv6 stack or not ?`
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`18:40.58`	`carols`	`kng: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2011/openwall`
`18:41.03`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`Future, I am disappoint.`
`18:41.07`	`carols`	`looks like they have an email, a mailing list, an ideas page, etc`
`18:41.11`	`carols`	`please check it out`
`18:41.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`zaccone: The library doesn't have its own ipv6 stack, it just uses normal boost networking stuffs.`
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`18:44.17`	`ravenlock`	`carols: just thought I'd check to see if you had the time to discuss a rejected org. Have a sec?`
`18:44.28`	`carols`	`ravenlock: you emailed me, right?`
`18:44.50`	`ravenlock`	`I did. I know I am in the q. just thought I'd see if you had any spare cycles`
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`18:45.00`	`brlcad`	`offers carols a cup of tea, with cookies`
`18:45.00`	`carols`	`ravenlock: nope, no spare cycles. sorry`
`18:45.06`	`carols`	`i will respond as soon as i'm able`
`18:45.10`	`carols`	`thanks brlcad`
`18:45.15`	`ravenlock`	`ok. thank you.`
`18:45.31`	`zaccone`	`ok, thanks for your help, have to go. Bye`
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`18:46.36`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`bobbens: a flash ad on lifehacker.com was using 25% cpu!`
`18:47.02`	`dberkholz`	`only 25?`
`18:47.08`	`dberkholz`	`they usually grab 100% for me.`
`18:47.08`	`gevaerts`	`CrawfordComeaux: that's only because it wasn't properly multithtreaded!`
`18:47.11`	`bobbens`	`CrawfordComeaux: but I'm sure that ad was developed using those fancy AGILE practices and such, it's the future!`
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`18:47.38`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`dberkholz: then I guess that means it was grabbing 100% of one core`
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`18:47.57`	`dberkholz`	`that sounds about right.`
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`18:48.18`	`dberkholz`	`well, as "right" as the flash plugin gets.`
`18:48.24`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`now to figure out why digsby is doing the same...what does a chat client sitting idly by need with 25%`
`18:48.53`	`bobbens`	`why data mining of course!`
`18:49.01`	`kng`	`carols : thank you`
`18:50.15`	`CrawfordComeaux`	`I think I'll add "Make Digsby run well on my laptop" to our ideas list...`
`18:50.51`	`carols`	`kng: yw`
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`18:51.29`	`siddharths`	`carols: heyo :)`
`18:51.34`	`carols`	`siddharths: hey`
`18:51.50`	`siddharths`	`so i am back after a year here :)`
`18:51.59`	`siddharths`	`carols: how are you ?`
`18:52.08`	`carols`	`siddharths: fine thanks. very busy.`
`18:52.25`	`siddharths`	`oh then i wont disturb :P`
`18:52.27`	`dberkholz`	`carols: anything i can help with?`
`18:52.36`	`siddharths`	`gets coffee for carol!`
`18:52.53`	`siddharths`	`carols: have a nice day! :)`
`18:52.56`	`carols`	`dberkholz: thank you for the offer, but really it's just all the stuff related to making the program go. you know: my job :-P`
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`18:53.16`	`dberkholz`	`carols: well, there's a lot more of us than you, so feel free to delegate. we're clearly interested in making things go too =)`
`18:53.42`	`carols`	`dberkholz: you're very kind. thank you :-)`
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`18:54.05`	`siddharths`	`carols: dont know how can i help :/`
`18:55.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`carols: We live to serve...`
`18:56.05`	`carols`	`thanks \|Kev\| :-) i appreciate all the work you all do`
`18:56.38`	`\|Kev\|`	`We get other people to write our code for us. Seems like a win :)`
`18:57.34`	`carols`	`\|Kev\|: funny, that's what i say about being a project manager too :-)`
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`18:58.20`	`kblin`	`evening folks`
`18:58.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`Hey kblin.`
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`19:03.27`	`mlankhorst`	`noon`
`19:04.30`	`\|Kev\|`	`Hey mlankhorst.`
`19:04.46`	`mlankhorst`	`hey :)`
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`19:18.42`	`AdaHopper`	`hi hocine`
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`19:27.52`	`\|Kev\|`	`Nightrose: Yes, that was it, thanks :)`
`19:28.11`	`Nightrose`	`\|Kev\|: :) yw`
`19:28.12`	`\|Kev\|`	`Nightrose / dberkholz: I'm pretty happy with this now, thanks :)`
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`19:28.24`	`Nightrose`	`great`
`19:28.25`	`Nightrose`	`me too`
`19:28.36`	`Nightrose`	`dberkholz: how about you send the email to ellen when you are happy?`
`19:28.51`	`Arikado`	`Hey everyone. I'm looking for an Android project I could get involved in`
`19:28.55`	`Arikado`	`Any suggestions?`
`19:28.55`	`e11iot`	`Wow, crowded room. I was wondering if anyone could answer a question about the contest?`
`19:29.14`	`scorche\|sh`	`what contest is that?`
`19:29.25`	`carols`	`e11iot: probably. what's the question?`
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`19:30.29`	`e11iot`	`Carols: I'm a student who wants to enter, although I'll be in europe in the month of June. Should I wait till next year to enter?`
`19:30.40`	`carols`	`e11iot: are you referring to GSoC or GCI?`
`19:31.00`	`e11iot`	`carols: GSOC, what's GCI?`
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`19:31.34`	`carols`	`e11iot: google summer of code and google code-in. google summer of code isn't a contest but google code-in is, which is why i ask`
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`19:32.17`	`e11iot`	`Carols: I'll be going to a university next year, I'm in high school now and I'm 18.`
`19:32.24`	`e11iot`	`Which would I be in?`
`19:32.28`	`thiago_home`	`http://www.acronymfinder.com/GCI.html doesn't have it`
`19:32.32`	`thiago_home`	`I wonder how to add`
`19:32.46`	`carols`	`e11iot: ok, have you been accepted to a unversity already?`
`19:32.57`	`e11iot`	`carols: Very happily, yes.`
`19:33.08`	`carols`	`e11iot: then you probably want GSoC.`
`19:33.37`	`\|Kev\|`	`Are you eligible (legally) to work in Europe during June?`
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`19:34.24`	`e11iot`	`<\|kev\|>: It's vacation, so no :(.`
`19:35.40`	`carols`	`e11iot: then you should probably wait until next year`
`19:35.44`	`e11iot`	`Thanks Kev and Carols, I'll be sure to enter the contest next summer.`
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`19:35.51`	`gevaerts`	`It's not a contest!`
`19:36.15`	`gevaerts`	`It's an occasion for eating cookies and drinking tea or coffee :)`
`19:36.15`	`e11iot`	`gevaerts: Pardon me esquire :).`
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`19:37.39`	`e11iot`	`disapears into the sea of spring.`
`19:38.13`	`Arikado`	`Would someone (preferrably an op) be willing to take a peek at my resume and suggest a project I could get involved in?`
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`19:38.44`	`scorche\|sh`	`Arikado: whatever you are interested in!`
`19:38.48`	`carols`	`Arikado: this is really a decision for you to make for yourself.`
`19:38.58`	`gevaerts`	`Arikado: being op in this channel doesn't say that much about status within gsoc`
`19:38.58`	`kblin`	`!canidoit`
`19:39.05`	`kblin`	`er`
`19:39.08`	`gevaerts`	`kblin: clearly you can't :)`
`19:39.14`	`carols`	`laughs`
`19:39.24`	`carols`	`you all keep me smiling :-)`
`19:39.45`	`kblin`	`!goodenough`
`19:39.45`	`socinfo`	`kblin: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/am-i-good-enough/`
`19:39.59`	`kblin`	`I'm pretty sure it was canidoit last year`
`19:40.04`	`Arikado`	`I've only just begun browing the projects. Heh. Thanks :)`
`19:40.07`	`carols`	`is again so glad we wrote that student manual last year`
`19:40.31`	`scorche\|sh`	`kblin: goodenough seems familiar to me`
`19:40.35`	`amstan`	`carols: good manual`
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`19:40.46`	`gevaerts`	`Arikado: filtering on tags in the organisation list can probably help`
`19:40.49`	`carols`	`amstan: thanks. it was the collaboration of a lot of great people`
`19:41.41`	`kblin`	`carols: between that and the mentor guide, we really just answer questions when we're too lazy to look for a link :)`
`19:41.51`	`carols`	`laughs again`
`19:41.59`	`gevaerts`	`kblin: that's what socinfo is for!`
`19:42.01`	`carols`	`kblin: fair enough. i guess that's a good thing :-)`
`19:42.35`	`kblin`	`gevaerts: but it won't learn !dowhatimean`
`19:42.57`	`gevaerts`	`!learn dowhatimean as But what do you mean?`
`19:42.57`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
`19:43.04`	`gevaerts`	`kblin: yes it does!`
`19:43.11`	`kblin`	`see, it's wrong`
`19:43.12`	`Arikado`	`gevaerts, thank ya.`
`19:43.51`	`gevaerts`	`Arikado: you're welcome!`
`19:43.59`	`gevaerts`	`kblin: I didn't say it would always be right :)`
`19:44.11`	`gevaerts`	`!forget dowhatimean`
`19:44.11`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: The operation succeeded.`
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`19:44.58`	`kblin`	`gives socinfo a cookie`
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`19:45.37`	`gevaerts`	`!cookie`
`19:45.44`	`gevaerts`	`:(`
`19:46.07`	`scorche\|sh`	`!botsnack`
`19:46.16`	`scorche\|sh`	`hrm - we got rid of that one too =/`
`19:46.18`	`scorche\|sh`	`!cheese`
`19:46.23`	`scorche\|sh`	`frowns`
`19:46.32`	`kblin`	`!learn cookie as omnomnom`
`19:46.32`	`socinfo`	`kblin: The operation succeeded.`
`19:46.43`	`carols`	`!couch`
`19:46.43`	`socinfo`	`carols: "couch" is An open source couch on which to chill.`
`19:46.45`	`carols`	`oh good`
`19:46.48`	`kblin`	`scorche\|sh: we just went and lost the database`
`19:46.48`	`carols`	`glad that one's still there`
`19:46.51`	`gevaerts`	`sits down`
`19:46.53`	`carols`	`plops down on couch`
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`19:47.16`	`kblin`	`scorche\|sh: danderson was running the old instance and just disappeared`
`19:47.37`	`scorche\|sh`	`yeah - i know...i emailed him about it a number of months ago when we were getting this channel going again`
`19:47.46`	`scorche\|sh`	`or maybe that was last year - either way ;)(`
`19:48.03`	`scorche\|sh`	`i should go back in my logs and add a bunch back`
`19:48.17`	`kblin`	`or we can just make up new ones`
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`19:48.32`	`gevaerts`	`is still working on a proper regexp to match c organisations`
`19:48.36`	`kblin`	`I restored the most important ones`
`19:48.43`	`kblin`	`!when`
`19:48.43`	`socinfo`	`kblin: "when" is later`
`19:48.49`	`kblin`	`and`
`19:48.51`	`kblin`	`!gsoc`
`19:48.51`	`socinfo`	`kblin: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums`
`19:48.54`	`gevaerts`	`!later`
`19:48.54`	`socinfo`	`gevaerts: "later" is when`
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`19:49.44`	`kblin`	`oh, whoops, I need to update the git instructions on the WF wiki`
`19:51.44`	`gevaerts`	`\bc\b([^#+]\|$) seems to do it`
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`19:52.31`	`kblin`	`unfortunately patching melange is a bit of a hurdle, last time I tried I lost my patch somewhere`
`19:53.04`	`kblin`	`fortunately SRabbelier is psychic and fixed the issue while I was still looking for my patch ;)`
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`19:54.25`	`gevaerts`	`It would be nice to have more powerful but still easy to use tag matching to allow people to match "c but not c++ or c#" and "java but not javascript" without knowing about regular expressions`
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`19:54.56`	`ajed`	`agreed`
`19:55.23`	`kblin`	`right, break out the ajax magic then :)`
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`20:07.02`	`dberkholz`	`Nightrose, \|Kev\|: it's good enough for me. let me know when you're done making changes`
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`20:07.50`	`Nightrose`	`dberkholz: unless something substantial changed in the last 5 hours i am fine with it`
`20:07.57`	`Nightrose`	`good to go to ellen`
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`20:10.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`dberkholz: go for it.`
`20:10.33`	`kblin`	`huh? we have a new mentors list?`
`20:11.02`	`carols`	`kblin: for the new orgs to get advice from veteran orgs`
`20:11.19`	`carols`	`kblin: it's by choice only :-)`
`20:11.27`	`pygi`	`folks!`
`20:11.28`	`carols`	`not mandatory`
`20:11.33`	`pygi`	`anybody wants to apply for gnome? :p`
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`20:12.23`	`aseem`	`pygi, are you a mentor ?`
`20:12.33`	`pygi`	`aseem: I decided to be one, yes =)`
`20:12.38`	`kblin`	`carols: ah, the mentoring the mentors list?`
`20:12.43`	`carols`	`kblin: correct`
`20:12.43`	`schumaml`	`pygi: did no students show up yet?`
`20:12.54`	`kblin`	`carols: ah, great`
`20:12.59`	`pygi`	`schumaml: um? dunno...I only care about people who want to work on burning :p`
`20:13.20`	`kblin`	`pygi: I burn candles, does that count?`
`20:13.23`	`aseem`	`pygi, errr what project are we talking about ?`
`20:13.28`	`pygi`	`aseem: brasero`
`20:13.37`	`schumaml`	`"anybody wants to apply for gnome? :P" seemed kind of desperate...`
`20:13.42`	`pygi`	`kblin: no, you dont like me :(`
`20:13.50`	`pygi`	`schumaml: nah, its more about brasero & libburnia :p`
`20:13.54`	`kblin`	`pygi: never used brasero`
`20:13.58`	`pygi`	`I dont think gnome is desperate`
`20:14.08`	`kblin`	`pygi: the UI scared me off`
`20:14.35`	`pygi`	`kblin: show me bugs?`
`20:14.46`	`pygi`	`bugzilla #?`
`20:14.51`	`pygi`	`hides`
`20:15.08`	`pygi`	`schumaml: you're lucky, I almost applied for your org as student`
`20:15.10`	`pygi`	`you avoided that :D`
`20:15.19`	`pygi`	`I think at least ...99% chance :p`
`20:15.29`	`kblin`	`pygi: if I filed a bug for every UI stupidity in gnome that annoyed me, I wouldn't have time for anything else :)`
`20:16.03`	`schumaml`	`pygi: let me guess... Adaptive Cloning? :)`
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`20:16.21`	`pygi`	`schumaml: aawwwww, you're same as kblin, evil!`
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`20:16.57`	`pygi`	`I'm a sad panda now`
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`20:18.20`	`kblin`	`pygi: looking at levenshtein distance, I strongly disagree that schumaml is the same as kblin`
`20:18.32`	`aseem`	`pygi, it is not on the idea's list,is it ? :P`
`20:18.46`	`pygi`	`aseem: it will be tonight`
`20:19.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`kblin: the levenshtein is much smaller between schumaml and kblin than it in between either and llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch though :)`
`20:20.12`	`aseem`	`pygi, what's the idea ? :P`
`20:20.16`	`\|Kev\|`	`Therefore, you're almost the same :D`
`20:20.48`	`pygi`	`aseem: rewriting libburnia backend and making it default in brasero`
`20:21.19`	`kblin`	`\|Kev\|: there's always something, I guess`
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`20:39.09`	`Nightrose`	`dberkholz: you'll email ellen or should I?`
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`20:44.21`	`Talad`	`!proposal`
`20:44.21`	`socinfo`	`Talad: "proposal" is All students have to submit proposal documents for the ideas they have chosen. Read the FAQ at http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#student_app for details and examples`
`20:44.29`	`Talad`	`ah, handy!`
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`21:03.57`	`kblin`	`carols: thanks`
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`21:14.57`	`brewster`	`can someone point me in the right direction as to what paperwork i need to apply for gsoc?`
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`21:16.26`	`dhaun`	`http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#who`
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`21:16.54`	`dhaun`	`brewster: but only after you are accepted`
`21:16.59`	`brewster`	`srry`
`21:17.10`	`brewster`	`clicked the wrong button`
`21:17.16`	`brewster`	`what did you say?`
`21:17.26`	`dhaun`	`http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#who`
`21:18.58`	`brewster`	`so i need to be enrolled in a college or just accepted?`
`21:20.30`	`brewster`	`nevermind. srry`
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`21:22.16`	`dhaun`	`yeah, the answer to that is a bit further down in the FAQ - guess you found it earlier than I did :)`
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`21:50.00`	`Nightrose`	`ok`
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`22:15.01`	`jrabbit`	`!next`
`22:15.01`	`socinfo`	`jrabbit: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations.`
`22:15.36`	`Talad`	`ojwb: I got it`
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`22:15.52`	`Talad`	`and also some subsequent spam of some initiated discussion`
`22:15.59`	`ojwb`	`Talad: but were you already subscribed from a previous year?`
`22:16.04`	`Talad`	`no`
`22:16.17`	`ojwb`	`ok, so that's not the case I asked about...`
`22:16.28`	`ojwb`	`wondering if he'll get double now`
`22:17.30`	`nikhil88`	`.`
`22:18.43`	`nikhil88`	`sir the idea that we have for anu org has that be be discussed with the mentors/authors /admins of the org?`
`22:18.51`	`nikhil88`	`or gsoc team?`
`22:18.55`	`nikhil88`	`what likes`
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`22:20.10`	`ojwb`	`nikhil88: with the org`
`22:20.25`	`ojwb`	`google don't look at your idea`
`22:20.26`	`nikhil88`	`ok`
`22:20.46`	`nikhil88`	`after that if org likes that and wants me to work then,`
`22:20.56`	`nikhil88`	`*them`
`22:21.28`	`nikhil88`	`then i will have to prepare a formal documents for google`
`22:21.36`	`nikhil88`	`????`
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`22:22.21`	`carols`	`nikhil88: if you're accepted, yes, you provide documents to google after that`
`22:22.35`	`nikhil88`	`oohk thank you`
`22:22.38`	`nikhil88`	`:)`
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`22:22.58`	`nikhil88`	`to talk to the org , who should be the concerned person`
`22:23.11`	`nikhil88`	`the mentor /admin/author?`
`22:23.17`	`ojwb`	`see the org page on google-melage.com`
`22:23.23`	`ojwb`	`that'll say how they want to be contacted`
`22:23.35`	`ojwb`	`typically there's an irc channel or mailing list`
`22:23.51`	`ojwb`	`sometimes directly, but a lot of projects prefer open communication`
`22:23.54`	`nikhil88`	`hm...k`
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`22:25.27`	`nikhil88`	`irc channel ,that you are talking about,is similar to what that i am doing right now??i mean i am talking to u here in the main channel..ok`
`22:25.41`	`nikhil88`	`so to talk with the concerned ppl of any org`
`22:25.43`	`ojwb`	`yes, this is a general irc channel for gsoc`
`22:25.52`	`nikhil88`	`ok`
`22:25.53`	`nikhil88`	`ok`
`22:25.54`	`ojwb`	`but there are ones for other topics`
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`22:26.08`	`nikhil88`	`hm..`
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`22:27.06`	`nikhil88`	`just one thing, IRC-> join channel and visit any org of my wish...ok, the ppl there , are they the ppl whome i am supossed to discuss things`
`22:27.11`	`nikhil88`	`(my ideas..etc)`
`22:27.40`	`nikhil88`	`ppl=people`
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`22:28.42`	`ojwb`	`well, they're people who are presumably interested in the org`
`22:28.51`	`ojwb`	`some will be other students probably`
`22:29.09`	`ojwb`	`some orgs have a gsoc specific channel, some don't`
`22:29.50`	`nikhil88`	`ok`
`22:29.54`	`ojwb`	`just be aware you may not get a quick response if nobody is around at that time`
`22:30.01`	`ojwb`	`doesn't mean you're being ignored`
`22:30.12`	`nikhil88`	`then like how to contact the appropriite person.`
`22:31.31`	`ojwb`	`just ask your question in the channel, like you did here`
`22:32.04`	`ojwb`	`well, I'd skip the "sir", it's pretty informal and that just sounds odd`
`22:33.36`	`nikhil88`	`no probs`
`22:33.41`	`nikhil88`	`:)`
`22:34.22`	`nikhil88`	`ojwb ,let me know plz is there any way to contact and talk to the mentor/admin/author drectly`
`22:34.50`	`nikhil88`	`i mean i have ideas and want to work on them`
`22:35.08`	`ojwb`	`as i said, it depends on the org`
`22:35.11`	`nikhil88`	`how should i know the person whome i am discussing is who`
`22:35.17`	`carols`	`nikhil88: they will tell you via their organization homepage how they want to be contacted. you should use their preferred method, whatever it is.`
`22:35.18`	`Nightrose`	`which org is it?`
`22:35.24`	`nikhil88`	`ooooo ohh`
`22:36.05`	`nikhil88`	`i have a list of them actually`
`22:36.17`	`nikhil88`	`i have planned out things`
`22:36.35`	`nikhil88`	`my ideas etc,,,not want some dicusion over them`
`22:36.46`	`nikhil88`	`*now`
`22:36.52`	`nikhil88`	`*now`
`22:37.20`	`ojwb`	`typically you want to air them in public, but that's not true for all orgs`
`22:37.36`	`Nightrose`	`yes and we can't give you any more specific answers unless you reveal which org you are talking about ;-)`
`22:37.51`	`Nightrose`	`but as carol said - check the org profile in melange`
`22:38.15`	`ojwb`	`wonders if the org name should be underlined there, to make it more obvious it's a link`
`22:38.32`	`Nightrose`	`ojwb: sounds like a good idea`
`22:38.47`	`Nightrose`	`SRabbelier: ^`
`22:38.50`	`Nightrose`	`what do you think?`
`22:39.00`	`SRabbelier`	`nickbarnesccf: hi`
`22:39.03`	`ojwb`	`SRabbelier: let me know if you want me to open a ticket`
`22:39.17`	`SRabbelier`	`what's the question?`
`22:39.23`	`Nightrose`	`SRabbelier: tabfail :P`
`22:39.42`	`Nightrose`	`in teh org list - the name could be underlined to indicate it is a link to the profile of each org`
`22:39.46`	`ojwb`	`in the org list, the link the the ideas page is underlined, but the link to the org info page (click on the name) isn't`
`22:39.48`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: indeed`
`22:40.04`	`ojwb`	`i think a lot of people fail to realise they can click there`
`22:40.06`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: KVIrc is horrible, but it's one of the few windows IRC clients that I can use while supporting Tor >_>`
`22:40.20`	`Nightrose`	`i see`
`22:40.23`	`Nightrose`	`hugs quassel`
`22:40.33`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: you mean like in http://gsoc.appspot.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 ?`
`22:40.40`	`Nightrose`	`looks`
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`22:40.45`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: (sneak preview of the new UI!)`
`22:40.50`	`Nightrose`	`ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh`
`22:40.51`	`Nightrose`	`:P`
`22:41.02`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: seeded with socghop data`
`22:41.13`	`SRabbelier`	`(best. idea. ever)`
`22:41.17`	`ojwb`	`wow, that's much nicer`
`22:41.28`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: thank EchoDitto`
`22:41.31`	`Nightrose`	`ohhhhhhhhh`
`22:41.33`	`Nightrose`	`likes`
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`22:42.12`	`carols`	`applauds SRabbelier`
`22:42.28`	`SRabbelier`	`carols: ^^`
`22:42.44`	`carols`	`:-)`
`22:42.45`	`ojwb`	`oops home is less good`
`22:42.45`	`gevaerts`	`apploads the melange team`
`22:42.51`	`ojwb`	`i guess that's a known issue?`
`22:43.12`	`Nightrose`	`very nice`
`22:43.23`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: yeaah, it's using the "description" setting`
`22:43.35`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: see http://gsoc.appspot.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2011`
`22:44.39`	`bugQ`	`SRabbelier: looks great except the tags column doesn't wrap or scroll`
`22:44.46`	`bugQ`	`(re: the 2010 page)`
`22:45.15`	`SRabbelier`	`bugQ: oh, well, yeah`
`22:45.20`	`SRabbelier`	`bugQ: let me relay that to our JS expert ;)`
`22:45.48`	`ojwb`	`it's a bit sad it doesn't use more of the window width if you full screen`
`22:46.19`	`bugQ`	`fixed width is fine, it just needs more attention`
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`22:47.44`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: it's using 960 grid system`
`22:48.21`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: (upshot of this is that it works even if you're browsing at 1024x768`
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`22:50.08`	`SRabbelier`	`bugQ: what do you mean?`
`22:50.58`	`ojwb`	`SRabbelier: not sure I really understand why that means it can't expand wider if the window is, but it a reasonably minor grumble`
`22:51.01`	`bugQ`	`oh just to things that don't fit in the width like unwrapped table entries`
`22:51.16`	`bugQ`	`or unscaled images`
`22:51.46`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: I think it's using fixed width underneath`
`22:51.58`	`SRabbelier`	`admits to not being savvy to the underlying details`
`22:52.22`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: I've had the same grumble though, I'll take it up with EchoDitto`
`22:52.57`	`ojwb`	`it's nice if it works in 1024 wide though`
`22:53.06`	`ojwb`	`netbooks tend to be about that`
`22:53.43`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: I think that's why they made it that way, it's the lowest resolution anyone is using these days that can be sanely supported :P`
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`22:54.48`	`ojwb`	`http://gsoc.appspot.com/gsoc/list_projects/google/gsoc2010 is an example that would benefit from more width`
`22:54.53`	`SRabbelier`	`bugQ: reported to Mario, he's looking into it first thing in the morning, he's being dragged to bed now`
`22:54.57`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: yes`
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`22:55.45`	`ojwb`	`the tags probably need to wrap anyway for some orgs`
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`22:57.04`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: right`
`23:01.23`	`SRabbelier`	`Anything you're missing from the org home pages?`
`23:02.25`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose, ojwb: ^`
`23:03.03`	`Nightrose`	`SRabbelier: not so far no`
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`23:03.24`	`ojwb`	`SRabbelier: in the new UI?`
`23:03.30`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: see also the edit profile page at http://gsoc.appspot.com/gsoc/profile/google/gsoc2010`
`23:03.30`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: yeah`
`23:03.41`	`Nightrose`	`ok`
`23:04.36`	`Nightrose`	`SRabbelier: This page is inaccessible because you do not have a profile in the program at this time.`
`23:04.36`	`ojwb`	`http://gsoc.appspot.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2010/debian seems to have a lot of vertical blank space`
`23:04.58`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: did you have a role in gsoc2010?`
`23:05.03`	`Nightrose`	`yes`
`23:05.08`	`Nightrose`	`admin`
`23:05.13`	`SRabbelier`	`frowns`
`23:05.14`	`Nightrose`	`and probably also signed up as mentor`
`23:05.22`	`SRabbelier`	`checks socghop`
`23:05.29`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: yeah, that's debian's fault :P`
`23:05.39`	`SRabbelier`	`ojwb: they probably did that to make it look ok in the old UI`
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`23:06.22`	`ojwb`	`SRabbelier: ah, ok`
`23:07.31`	`SRabbelier`	`Nightrose: mind if we take this to #melange ?`
`23:07.37`	`Nightrose`	`ok`
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