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| 01:37.38 | socinfo | LetterRip: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 01:38.08 | mmadia | http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=03&day=18&year=2011&hour=19 |
| 01:39.02 | mmadia | ... http://haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2011 has url's for other countdown timers for other timeline dates |
| 01:39.07 | LetterRip | heh |
| 01:39.09 | LetterRip | cool |
| 01:39.25 | efes | Does anyone remember how many slots do we have this year? |
| 01:39.27 | efes | 1300 ? |
| 01:39.29 | efes | 1200 |
| 01:39.33 | efes | ? |
| 01:39.34 | LetterRip | feel like a little kid 'are we there yet? is it time yet?' |
| 01:39.41 | LetterRip | efes - i don't think it is preset |
| 01:40.06 | LetterRip | at last years conference they stated they could fund a lot more, but they needed to know what were 'worthwhile' ones |
| 01:40.15 | efes | LetterRip: Don't they _plan_ to take at most X students ? |
| 01:40.19 | LetterRip | hence the vouching for this year |
| 01:40.31 | LetterRip | efes - not sure |
| 01:40.32 | efes | LetterRip: AFAIR there's an info about max qty of slots. Gimme a while. |
| 01:40.41 | LetterRip | hmm could be |
| 01:40.52 | ojwb | hasn't seen a number yet, but I've not gone looking |
| 01:42.12 | efes | can't find. Anyway... crisis is gone ;) |
| 01:42.30 | ojwb | faq just says "We've funded 1,026 student projects in 2010 and expect a slightly higher number of student participants in 2011" |
| 01:43.17 | ojwb | carol did say they plan to accept more orgs, but I've not seen a number for that either |
| 01:43.45 | ravenlock | I thought they said ~1500 this year, no? |
| 01:43.50 | ravenlock | or maybe that was last year? |
| 01:44.06 | ojwb | last year was 1026 |
| 01:44.27 | ojwb | it's possible the FAQ doesn't reflect announcements elsewhere |
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| 01:56.10 | ihalip | !timeline |
| 01:56.11 | socinfo | ihalip: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
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| 02:01.21 | efes | ravenlock: I remember trustful source (don't remember which one) told about number of slots |
| 02:01.52 | efes | ojwb: 2 yrs ago was a bit over 1000 |
| 02:02.31 | ravenlock | hm. I wonder why I thought it was so high this year. |
| 02:02.43 | ravenlock | rumor mill maybe. |
| 02:02.43 | efes | ravenlock: Crisis is gone :]]] |
| 02:02.58 | ravenlock | huh? |
| 02:03.11 | efes | Financial crisis is gone. |
| 02:03.18 | anth | we wish. |
| 02:03.38 | efes | it strongly depends on society you live in :) |
| 02:03.58 | ojwb | the faq gives the number of students for all the years, except 2009 oddly |
| 02:04.06 | ojwb | but 2010's faq says 1000 in 2009 |
| 02:04.11 | efes | people in me country snubed crysis and it went very fast :] |
| 02:04.23 | efes | 2009 was worst |
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| 02:06.05 | ojwb | but really, focus on putting together compelling applications, rather then worrying about exactly how many slots there will be |
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| 02:09.03 | efes | truth |
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| 02:15.44 | socinfo | socketguru: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
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| 03:07.17 | Syberia | today is going to be great day |
| 03:07.49 | solardiz | is there any info on how many mentoring orgs applied? |
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| 03:09.45 | amaurymedeiros | If an organization gets accepted tomorrow, it will have at least one slot? I mean guaranteed |
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| 03:10.37 | solardiz | i heard that it's at least 2 slots unless the org requests only 1, but that's not reliable info |
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| 03:12.52 | felipevieira | a second opinion would be great |
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| 03:16.03 | ojwb | in the past, orgs have been given at least 2 slots if they wanted them |
| 03:16.32 | ojwb | possibly that could change with the move to encourage more smaller orgs |
| 03:19.17 | amaurymedeiros | solardiz, ojwb thanks for the answers :) |
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| 03:42.25 | techbreak | hi I want to apply for gsoc 2011, is the deadline still open ? |
| 03:43.02 | cosmopolitan | it hasn't opened yet :) |
| 03:43.25 | techbreak | cosmopolitan: so how do I proceed ? or I have to just wait it to open ? |
| 03:43.47 | ojwb | for students at least - if you're an org, you're nearly a week too late |
| 03:44.01 | techbreak | ojwb: I am student |
| 03:44.09 | ojwb | techbreak: look at the orgs which are accepted |
| 03:44.17 | cosmopolitan | yep, just wait, it'll open on 28 March |
| 03:44.22 | techbreak | ojwb: i am looking at it. |
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| 03:44.49 | ojwb | cosmopolitan: you really want to be preparing before applications open |
| 03:44.49 | techbreak | !next |
| 03:44.49 | socinfo | techbreak: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 03:45.19 | techbreak | ojwb: do I have to be prepared with my idea and application by the date it is open ? |
| 03:45.45 | ojwb | you don't HAVE to, but if you are it'll give you an advantage over the hordes who aren't |
| 03:46.13 | ojwb | and the sooner you start talking to the org, the more time there is to hone ideas and improve your application |
| 03:46.48 | techbreak | ojwb: okie, so I need to select an organization and start talking to them about my idea no matter when it is going to open |
| 03:47.00 | techbreak | and as soon as it opens I have to give my hit right ? |
| 03:47.31 | ojwb | you get a week or something to apply, but the earlier you do, the more chance there is to respond to feedback from potential mentors |
| 03:47.52 | ojwb | booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ has a lot of good advice |
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| 03:48.49 | techbreak | ojwb: can you please give the full link.. again |
| 03:49.02 | ojwb | that is the full link |
| 03:49.26 | ojwb | hmm, odd |
| 03:49.49 | ojwb | oh |
| 03:49.56 | ojwb | http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ has a lot of good advice |
| 03:50.03 | ojwb | needs the www. |
| 03:50.10 | ojwb | silly site |
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| 03:51.10 | techbreak | ojwb: ojwb got it.. :) |
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| 03:56.08 | cosmopolitan | oh yeah, i've been keeping an eye on orgs |
| 03:56.25 | cosmopolitan | i've been hanging out in the boost channel, and been keeping an eye on their mailing list |
| 03:56.31 | cosmopolitan | that will be hard to get into though |
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| 04:55.41 | karthikbashetty | when will be the orgamigation list released |
| 04:56.25 | felipevieira | <karthikbashetty> deppends on where do you live. here in brazil it'll happen today (: |
| 04:56.54 | karthikbashetty | k i got d time line thank u |
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| 05:52.57 | foocraft | Hi all |
| 05:53.08 | foocraft | when will the accepted orgs be announced? |
| 05:53.30 | foocraft | It says today, but maybe I'm just too early. |
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| 05:56.55 | ojwb | !next |
| 05:56.56 | socinfo | ojwb: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 05:57.08 | ojwb | the timeline also gives the time |
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| 06:03.17 | A_Smith | Hey! |
| 06:03.37 | A_Smith | planning to do gsoc for the first time |
| 06:04.35 | A_Smith | The organizations are announce today(friday) right? |
| 06:05.07 | Pranav_rcmas | Yep |
| 06:05.08 | A_Smith | Sorry forgot to introduce me. |
| 06:05.17 | A_Smith | I'm from Sri Lanka |
| 06:05.55 | A_Smith | Currently an Computer Science and Engineering undergraduate at University of Moratuwa |
| 06:05.59 | Pranav_rcmas | Then it's gonna be early in the morning tomorrow for you. Like shortly after midnight |
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| 07:15.32 | thebolt | hi wolfb |
| 07:17.10 | wolfb | hey thebolt :) |
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| 07:17.16 | thebolt | how're you doing? |
| 07:17.21 | wolfb | how goes? |
| 07:17.35 | thebolt | just perfect |
| 07:18.00 | thebolt | trying to find some motivation to work for another hour and a half before going out to dinner and maybe a movie or so |
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| 07:18.36 | wolfb | sounds good thebolt :) |
| 07:19.01 | wolfb | I just realized that today is D-Day :D |
| 07:20.13 | thebolt | d-day? |
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| 07:27.31 | wolfb | the day we find out if we have nothing to do in the summer or not :P |
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| 07:28.02 | wolfb | i.e. org application results will be published :D |
| 07:29.23 | thebolt | Ah ;) i will have plenty to do (possibly, if we don't go bancrupt before then, in which case i will be looking for a job) but not gsoc this year either :( |
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| 07:29.53 | SITZ | SITZ |
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| 07:33.05 | wolfb | thebolt: aww :( That's just too bad. |
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| 11:03.05 | z4z4 | a new proposal from Eclipse: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2011_Ideas#Orion_-_Git_client |
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| 11:05.42 | gevaerts | z4z4: any specific reason to mention that here? |
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| 11:05.50 | CharlieM | Out of curiousity, what do you all use for IRC clients? |
| 11:06.33 | MatthewWilkes | netcat |
| 11:06.41 | Dark_Shikari | irssi |
| 11:06.46 | nonreviad | Pidgin |
| 11:06.51 | bahaa | xchat aqua |
| 11:06.54 | kai | irssi |
| 11:06.59 | MatthewWilkes | okay, okay, xchat aqua, but I have used netcat before |
| 11:07.01 | dbs | xchat |
| 11:07.28 | gevaerts | MSN Messenger 3.11 For WorkGroups, according to ctcp version |
| 11:08.14 | bahaa | i used mirc before going mac, used xchat on linux too |
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| 11:15.05 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: I'm reminded of http://groups.google.com/group/news.software.readers/browse_thread/thread/6641dee8d8c8bee/b92e458d175531c5 |
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| 11:19.24 | mayanks43 | pidgin best :) |
| 11:20.06 | kai | ojwb: ah, usenet, the web 0.1 version of youtube :) |
| 11:20.07 | aghisla | client war! :D |
| 11:21.01 | dskw | wait.. what? please me more about irc-ing using nc! |
| 11:21.18 | dskw | *please tell |
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| 11:23.01 | mwilkes|nc | It's quite easy |
| 11:23.11 | mwilkes|nc | Just read the RFC |
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| 11:23.56 | mwilkes|nc | dskw: It's a bit hard to read on high activity channels though |
| 11:24.11 | mwilkes|nc | you get stuff like "PRIVMSG :lolfrenz!~stefys@unaffiliated/lolfrenz JOIN :#gsoc |
| 11:24.28 | lolfrenz | no, you don't. |
| 11:24.40 | lolfrenz | PRIVMSG and JOIN don't go together |
| 11:24.59 | mwilkes|nc | If it's a notification they do |
| 11:25.29 | lolfrenz | JOIN is a notification. PRIVMSG is a message. |
| 11:25.42 | Ophiuchi | ircII .. I'm quaint |
| 11:25.43 | mwilkes|nc | JOIN is a command |
| 11:25.57 | lolfrenz | you either get ":lolfrenz!~stefys@unaffiliated/lolfrenz JOIN :#gsoc" or ":lolfrenz!~stefys@unaffiliated/lolfrenz PRIVMSG <target> :message" |
| 11:26.06 | lolfrenz | there's no such thing as PRIVMSG :source JOIN :target |
| 11:26.17 | mwilkes|nc | I should point out that was a direct copy/paste from a raw IRC session |
| 11:26.35 | mwilkes|nc | So you have zero chance of convincing me, I know you're wrong |
| 11:26.58 | lolfrenz | I sort of know all of the IRC RFC and have implemented the irc protocol a gazillion times |
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| 11:27.13 | lolfrenz | it's not a raw IRC session that you're watching. |
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| 11:27.36 | mwilkes|nc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.36 | kai | lolfrenz: he is connected using netcat, that sounds pretty raw to me |
| 11:27.47 | mwilkes|nc | I blame the headache, sorry! |
| 11:28.24 | lolfrenz | guess I did have zero chance of convincing you, since you convinced yourself. |
| 11:28.35 | mwilkes|nc | :D |
| 11:28.37 | kai | hehe |
| 11:29.08 | lolfrenz | "you don't know to copy paste then" was the first thing I wanted to say, but I didn't want to be too insulting heh |
| 11:29.20 | MatthewWilkes | lolfrenz: Should have :D |
| 11:29.23 | eoc | (: |
| 11:29.39 | mayanks43 | nc = netcat ? :P |
| 11:29.50 | lolfrenz | yes. |
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| 11:38.57 | kai | lolfrenz: I guess there's a reason they call this user interface model "WIMP" ;) |
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| 12:12.02 | pygi | oh hies |
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| 13:01.09 | MatthewWilkes | !timeline |
| 13:01.09 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 13:01.34 | HerraBRE | All very exciting :) |
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| 13:53.07 | mlankhorst | mooo |
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| 13:55.23 | |Kev| | baaaaa |
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| 13:56.22 | kai | old macdonald had a farm... |
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| 13:57.36 | dotnick | e i e i o? |
| 13:57.41 | |Kev| | E_IEIO |
| 13:57.45 | wolfb | ...on his farm he had a bug report |
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| 13:58.43 | Nightrose | did he also have a patch? |
| 13:58.59 | |Kev| | Yes, over one of the Is. |
| 13:59.33 | samiran | hi whats time is it in UTC |
| 13:59.42 | dotnick | 14:00 |
| 13:59.42 | samiran | i m eager to see the accepted list |
| 13:59.47 | dotnick | 5 more hours to go |
| 14:00.04 | samiran | is it not on 19:00 |
| 14:00.13 | |Kev| | It is. |
| 14:00.19 | |Kev| | 19 - 14 = 5 |
| 14:00.26 | samiran | oh yes 5 hrs to go |
| 14:00.44 | dotnick | you had me checking my calculations there :p |
| 14:00.46 | |Kev| | Thank goodness there isn't a maths captcha on the accepted list page :p |
| 14:00.57 | samiran | :P |
| 14:01.23 | dotnick | The lists would be flooded with questions |
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| 14:01.36 | |Kev| | dotnick: We could captcha the lists. |
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| 14:01.42 | |Kev| | In fact, that's a great idea. |
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| 14:01.51 | samiran | any idea about the no. of organisation |
| 14:01.52 | |Kev| | "What is the fourth FAQ?" |
| 14:02.08 | dotnick | That IS a good idea. |
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| 14:02.49 | dskw | means the list will be out at my 3am :( |
| 14:03.07 | |Kev| | dskw: And in how many hours' time is that? :D |
| 14:03.08 | MatzeWilkes | dskw: Then look at it tomorrow morning |
| 14:03.08 | dotnick | dskw: you could check it tomorrow :P |
| 14:03.13 | gevaerts | samiran: 430 applications IIRC. For the number of accepted organisations, please press the button marked "Wait five hours" :) |
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| 14:29.47 | ravenlock | are we there yet? |
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| 14:36.11 | _Samo | it seems |
| 14:36.20 | _Samo | so |
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| 14:37.54 | gevaerts | We are there, yes, but it's not clear where there is :) |
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| 14:51.10 | mango | @tobias are you related to nimbuzz? |
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| 14:55.12 | jiageng081 | why nobody say anything |
| 14:56.19 | kai | because people busy? |
| 14:56.53 | ojwb | kai: too busy for verbs? |
| 14:57.22 | LawnGnome | Verbing weirds language anyway. |
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| 14:58.52 | kai | ojwb: I don't believe in auxilary verbs. they useless ;) |
| 14:59.09 | jiageng081 | linguist |
| 15:00.37 | jiageng081 | OK. I believe you can program with verbs |
| 15:00.42 | ojwb | kai: like "do"? |
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| 15:02.24 | jiageng081 | Chinese? |
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| 15:03.38 | kai | ojwb: spoilsport ;) |
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| 15:06.45 | jiageng081 | Hmm... |
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| 15:18.52 | nano- | When is Friday, March 18 in GSoC-land? |
| 15:19.33 | m0nhawk | !next |
| 15:19.33 | socinfo | m0nhawk: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 15:19.40 | m0nhawk | nano-: UTC time |
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| 15:19.53 | nano- | check |
| 15:19.55 | nano- | thanks. |
| 15:20.08 | Hexxeh | So in less than 4 hours time :D |
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| 15:31.09 | d4rk8l1tz | exactly 3.5 hrs left |
| 15:31.28 | d4rk8l1tz | :) |
| 15:31.35 | ojwb | assuming it's announced exactly at the stated time |
| 15:32.32 | m0nhawk | wait, and you'll see :) |
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| 15:34.29 | d4rk8l1tz | fingers crossed ;) |
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| 15:43.04 | zee | anxious moment ;) |
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| 15:46.55 | Inc | morning lh you're officially GSOC stress free today :) |
| 15:48.29 | mlankhorst | :X |
| 15:48.40 | mlankhorst | not really, we're still lh's children |
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| 15:49.04 | lh | mlankhorst: there there |
| 15:49.08 | lh | Inc: good morning |
| 15:49.12 | lh | sits on the free couch |
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| 15:53.37 | d4rk8l1tz | its night here |
| 15:53.42 | d4rk8l1tz | :D |
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| 15:53.52 | mlankhorst | irc time |
| 15:54.07 | LawnGnome | UGT. |
| 15:54.09 | mlankhorst | its always morning when you come in, evening when you leave |
| 15:54.25 | d4rk8l1tz | IST |
| 15:54.31 | d4rk8l1tz | ok |
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| 16:19.27 | razor__ | gaand phaad denge |
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| 16:20.25 | bahaa | !next |
| 16:20.25 | socinfo | bahaa: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 16:20.29 | bahaa | xD |
| 16:20.46 | razor__ | :D |
| 16:21.04 | psychon | since I'm too stupid to handle timzones: 2h 40min? |
| 16:21.06 | razor__ | ->next |
| 16:21.23 | razor__ | 2hrs 35 min |
| 16:21.25 | razor__ | :D |
| 16:21.38 | bahaa | yep |
| 16:21.50 | razor__ | gaand phaad denge |
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| 16:22.42 | Inc | mlankhorst: ahhhhh shucks :P |
| 16:22.56 | razor__ | madar |
| 16:22.57 | bahaa | just like a kid waiting new year |
| 16:22.58 | bahaa | xD |
| 16:23.02 | razor__ | chod |
| 16:23.18 | razor__ | XD |
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| 16:23.27 | razor__ | motherfucer |
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| 16:23.56 | razor__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.12 | bahaa | wb MatthewWilkes |
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| 16:24.36 | roshan_iiita | arey koi kaam ki baat karega...? |
| 16:24.53 | razor__ | bhag bhosadi |
| 16:25.07 | roshan_iiita | who is this razor__ |
| 16:25.09 | roshan_iiita | ? |
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| 16:25.13 | roshan_iiita | i think i know you |
| 16:25.16 | bahaa | japanese ? |
| 16:25.17 | bahaa | xD |
| 16:25.31 | razor__ | ya ,....dead in earthquake :P lol |
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| 16:27.13 | bahaa | np |
| 16:27.25 | MatthewWilkes | mlankhorst: ping? |
| 16:27.46 | bahaa | IO error |
| 16:28.02 | bahaa | [18:22:59] * MatthewWilkes has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) |
| 16:28.05 | mlankhorst | pong |
| 16:28.16 | bahaa | yep ping |
| 16:28.31 | MatthewWilkes | mlankhorst: See above, razor__ 5 minutes ago |
| 16:28.35 | MatthewWilkes | wishes he could kick-ban |
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| 16:29.19 | mlankhorst | sorry was away :) |
| 16:29.22 | bahaa | ? |
| 16:29.29 | bahaa | what did razor do ? |
| 16:29.48 | mlankhorst | being mildly offensive |
| 16:30.32 | MatthewWilkes | yay :D |
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| 16:30.54 | |Kev| | Oh thank goodness for that :) |
| 16:30.58 | MatthewWilkes | Swearing and joking about the deaths of a thousand or so people isn't very nice |
| 16:31.07 | |Kev| | Right. |
| 16:31.11 | bahaa | oh yes |
| 16:31.13 | bahaa | :( |
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| 16:35.52 | tty3 | anyone know the link where the organizations will be posted once their out? I need to get my refreshing finger ready :) |
| 16:36.16 | |Kev| | I'm *assuming* a mail from Carol will appear. |
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| 16:36.35 | |Kev| | They'll appear in Melange though. |
| 16:36.40 | tty3 | |Kev|, yea but will you get an email if your rejected too? |
| 16:36.59 | |Kev| | tty3: Are you on the various lists? |
| 16:37.10 | tty3 | |Kev|, which lists? |
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| 16:37.27 | |Kev| | The gsoc lists. Announce, discuss etc. |
| 16:37.36 | tty3 | |Kev|, no i dont think i am |
| 16:38.35 | jhf | I heard there will be a "rejection" IRC chat to tell you what you can improve on (i.e. why you were rejected) |
| 16:38.46 | |Kev| | There has been in the past. |
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| 16:39.31 | tty3 | |Kev|, are you saying they will annoucne who was rejected ont he mailing lists? |
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| 16:39.58 | |Kev| | The timeline says the accepted orgs will appear on the gsoc site. |
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| 16:40.31 | |Kev| | I *expect* Carol will send out a mail to announce as well. |
| 16:40.37 | |Kev| | Morning Carol. |
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| 16:40.47 | carols | morning |Kev| |
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| 16:41.15 | carols | |Kev|: what am i sending an email about? |
| 16:41.21 | tty3 | |Kev|, might help if i sign up to that then.. but do you know if they will send emails out to people whoa re rejected individually or just those accepted? |
| 16:41.28 | tty3 | carols, what i just asked about |
| 16:41.28 | |Kev| | 16:39 < tty3> |Kev|, are you saying they will annoucne who was rejected ont he mailing lists? |
| 16:41.35 | |Kev| | 16:39 < |Kev|> The timeline says the accepted orgs will appear on the gsoc site. |
| 16:41.37 | carols | tty3: everyone who applied gets an email |
| 16:41.42 | |Kev| | 16:40 < |Kev|> I *expect* Carol will send out a mail to announce as well. |
| 16:41.52 | |Kev| | There you go, up to speed :) |
| 16:41.53 | tty3 | carols,ahh good my refresh finger wont need to get a workout today then, thanks for the answer |
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| 16:42.00 | carols | yw |
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| 16:42.38 | tty3 | tocuhes carols on the shoulder and runs away giggling about having touched a google employee :) lol |
| 16:42.51 | |Kev| | Of course, if this was XMPP, you'd have got the room context when you joined ... silly IRC ;) |
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| 16:45.26 | tty3 | |Kev|, the closer it gets to 19:00 UTC the more excited i get :) will be fun to do it this year if we get in, and we already have so much intrest from students it has been rewarding regardless :) |
| 16:45.31 | tty3 | |Kev|, should be a blast :) |
| 16:45.40 | bahaa | all ops here are google employees ? |
| 16:45.47 | tty3 | bahaa, no |
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| 16:46.08 | edsiper | lot of people today :) |
| 16:46.13 | jtbandes | I wonder why :) |
| 16:46.15 | |Kev| | I wonder why that might be :) |
| 16:46.19 | tty3 | edsiper, its a big deay :) |
| 16:46.21 | edsiper | me too |
| 16:46.24 | edsiper | XD |
| 16:46.25 | tty3 | *day |
| 16:46.39 | aghisla | brought a chair |
| 16:46.41 | tty3 | edsiper, its the day they release the org list |
| 16:46.51 | edsiper | tty3, i know, i'm waiting for that |
| 16:46.51 | tty3 | brought a bucket of trout :) |
| 16:47.05 | edsiper | just 1 hour and a couple of minutes to relax |
| 16:47.15 | jtbandes | Question for anyone who's done this before: I'm probably going to be doing an internship this summer... is it possible/a good idea to try and do a GSOC project as well? |
| 16:47.25 | tty3 | edsiper, yea me too, but now that carols confirmed that everythone (including those rejected) will get an email i dont need to stress as much, im considering going to the pub and celebrating the day away |
| 16:47.46 | tty3 | edsiper, just an hour away? |
| 16:47.48 | SukhE | jtbandes, you need to put in a minimum 40 hours / week for GSoC |
| 16:47.56 | edsiper | tty3, yeah, a couple of beers are always welcome in any context :) |
| 16:48.03 | jtbandes | SukhE: oh, I see |
| 16:48.09 | tty3 | jtbandes, i havent done this before, but i guess it depends on how much time you have (unless you have some xceptional skill and can work twice as fast or something) |
| 16:48.12 | |Kev| | jtbandes: No not as well. |
| 16:48.28 | tty3 | edsiper, i figure if i go to the pub even if we get rejected we still win :) especially if its good beer |
| 16:48.39 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 16:48.47 | carols | bustling in here :-) |
| 16:48.47 | edsiper | tty3, hehe, that's true |
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| 16:48.52 | carols | i see you're all waiting for the news |
| 16:48.57 | edsiper | yep |
| 16:49.01 | tty3 | carols, does that suprise you? :) |
| 16:49.09 | SukhE | jtbandes, also from the FAQ: "If you have a great internship starting soon or you're planning a month long backpacking trip, you likely won't be a good candidate for the program." |
| 16:49.18 | jtbandes | SukhE: yeah, just found that. thanks |
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| 16:49.26 | carols | tty3: not in the slightest :-) although it is in stark contract to yesterday's silence in here |
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| 16:49.36 | edsiper | today is the day where organizations feels like students when applying |
| 16:49.55 | |Kev| | carols: There were a decent chatter yesterday too. I think it died off a bit in the UK evening, though. |
| 16:50.04 | edsiper | carols, i'm wondering how the team reviewed 430 apps in a few days |
| 16:50.04 | carols | |Kev|: fair enough. |
| 16:50.09 | mlankhorst | wee |
| 16:50.13 | mlankhorst | is the news out yet? |
| 16:50.17 | tty3 | carols, silence in an irc room of some 300 odd people should be taken as a good thing :) its better than a troll-fest |
| 16:50.18 | bahaa | count down ppl ? |
| 16:50.19 | bahaa | xD |
| 16:50.24 | mlankhorst | carols: have you heard? |
| 16:50.26 | |Kev| | Lots of .eu who should have been working, I imagine :) |
| 16:50.29 | carols | tty3: indeed |
| 16:50.31 | carols | mlankhorst: heard? |
| 16:50.33 | mlankhorst | BIRD IS THE WORD |
| 16:50.36 | carols | haha |
| 16:50.38 | arunesh_razor | hey any one interested in parallel computing |
| 16:50.43 | carols | mlankhorst: you make me laugh :-) |
| 16:51.13 | tty3 | arunesh_razor, our organization is actually centered around aprallel computing rather heavily |
| 16:51.27 | gevaerts | wonders if asking a (technical) question here and pretending it's a qualification test for students would be a good way to solve this issue he's having at work |
| 16:51.43 | mlankhorst | too late ;) |
| 16:51.50 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Give it a go. |
| 16:51.51 | HerraBRE | I vote for announcing the list 15 minutes early, so I can hear the results before my 7pm Karate class starts. How am I supposed to focus on hitting people if I know the list is up and I can't see it? |
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| 16:52.11 | |Kev| | HerraBRE: It's not about hitting people, it's about not getting hit yourself ;) |
| 16:52.13 | Inc | HerraBRE: if you knock em out, you can check the list.... |
| 16:52.30 | tty3 | HerraBRE, why didnt you say so earlier, im sure google would be happy to move up its schedule for you :) |
| 16:52.30 | HerraBRE | |Kev|: being distracted this way could be downright dangerous, you are right. |
| 16:52.49 | HerraBRE | If I get injured, I will be sure to blame G. |
| 16:52.59 | |Kev| | Yeah, blame gevaerts. |
| 16:53.09 | gevaerts | is blameless! |
| 16:53.22 | carols | gevaerts: you're always blameless. how do you manage that? :-) |
| 16:53.32 | tty3 | HerraBRE, lol id LOVE to see the court battle between you with a karate injury and a 5$ lawyer and googles team of lawyers :) |
| 16:53.33 | edsiper | HerraBRE, haha, if you get the results earlier you will get distracted too :) |
| 16:53.46 | gevaerts | carols: I'm afraid that the day I find out I'll also find I'm not any more :) |
| 16:53.54 | carols | gevaerts: how true. |
| 16:54.23 | edsiper | goes to lunch, good luck for everyone.. |
| 16:54.25 | gevaerts | Or even worse, that I've never been :) |
| 16:54.25 | HerraBRE | edsiper: Nah, if we're rejected, Karate will be the perfect way to let off steam. If we're accepted... well, I'll be full of cheerful energy. :) |
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| 16:54.35 | Inc | HerraBRE: well at least you're not in my timezone because it decreases the chances of me getting a call when the list comes out..... |
| 16:54.36 | tty3 | carols, is it as hectic/exciting there for you guys making the decisions as it is for us waiting on them? :) |
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| 16:54.52 | edsiper | HerraBRE, haha, Karate is discipline ..focus! :D |
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| 16:54.56 | carols | tty3: the last 5 days have been the most stressful of the year for me. |
| 16:55.01 | mlankhorst | carols: aww |
| 16:55.05 | mlankhorst | what about last year? |
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| 16:55.16 | HerraBRE | Stress can be fun :) |
| 16:55.18 | carols | mlankhorst: yep, last year too, even with lh's help |
| 16:55.22 | Inc | I told my captain I'm on stand by for the next 2 hours till the list comes out :) |
| 16:55.26 | |Kev| | HerraBRE: Pressure can be fun. Stress isn't. |
| 16:55.28 | edsiper | leaving, bye |
| 16:55.38 | mlankhorst | carols: well you're still standing :) |
| 16:55.41 | lh | carols: good morning my friend. you are awesome. :) |
| 16:55.46 | tty3 | carols, wow, now i sorta feel guilty for applying, but not guilty enough to stop applying :) |
| 16:55.59 | khrm | Is ubuntu not participating this year? |
| 16:56.02 | carols | mlankhorst: just barely. i just hate the impending conversations I have to have with the awesome orgs we had to reject because there wasn't enough space |
| 16:56.13 | khrm | Can't find it in the list. |
| 16:56.17 | gevaerts | tty3: imagine the stress if *nobody* had applied. "What did we do wrong?" |
| 16:56.19 | HerraBRE | carols: People complain much? |
| 16:56.26 | lh | hands carols a coffee, a nice scone and feather pillow for her rest on the free couch after this meeting |
| 16:56.35 | mlankhorst | mm |
| 16:56.36 | carols | aw, thanks lh :-) |
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| 16:56.50 | MatthewWilkes | carols: What we did 2 years ago was nominate somebody to be in charge of the queue and direct people to another channel to sign up to have their questions answered |
| 16:56.50 | tty3 | gevaerts, that would be more disapointment and sadness .. but not too much stress :) |
| 16:56.52 | carols | gives lh some coffee as well |
| 16:56.55 | lh | carols: and a real coffee, scone and what not when next i see you. good luck today, you will not need it. :) |
| 16:57.05 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i plan to have a meeting next week for rejected orgs |
| 16:57.05 | MatthewWilkes | carols: That way you aren't deluged and get the next person when you want them |
| 16:57.07 | lh | carols: and MatthewWilkes idea is brilliant. made life much easier in the past. :) |
| 16:57.17 | lh | enjoys coffee |
| 16:57.17 | jhf | carols: just remember, in your best mobster voice.. "it's just business" |
| 16:57.19 | MatthewWilkes | I would volunteer, but I'm on my way out |
| 16:57.43 | carols | jhf: i know. but i love the open source community and want to accept everyone. :-P |
| 16:57.49 | |Kev| | Ok then. |
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| 16:57.58 | |Kev| | That was easier than waiting for 7pm :p |
| 16:58.23 | dbs | carols++ # don't know how you do it, but glad that you can |
| 16:58.28 | carols | hops out for a meeting |
| 16:58.33 | jhf | man.. gsoc is the second org I've dealt with in the last week who have set critical times using GMT. In both cases I didn't realize it initially and thought I'd have to wait a long time. |
| 16:58.34 | |Kev| | Enjoy. |
| 16:58.39 | jhf | hurray for the rotation of the earth! |
| 16:59.02 | gevaerts | jhf: gsoc doesn't use GMT! |
| 16:59.04 | gevaerts | It's UTC! |
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| 16:59.24 | stefanct | my gnome clock cant do utc, but gmt only ffs! |
| 16:59.44 | tty3 | jhf, i cant say i care for the earth rotation very much.. but as long as it keeps up for atleast an hour or so more ill be happy |
| 16:59.44 | jhf | heh.. anything east of me is all the same timezone.. "late as ..." |
| 16:59.57 | |Kev| | jhf: pie? |
| 16:59.59 | jimregan | yeah... confusing UTC with GMT doesn't help much after the switch to BST :) |
| 17:00.02 | mlankhorst | !next |
| 17:00.03 | socinfo | mlankhorst: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 17:00.12 | mlankhorst | :{ |
| 17:00.20 | jimregan | got caught with that two years in a row :D |
| 17:00.24 | jhf | sure, I'd love some pie! |
| 17:00.29 | abhishekdelta | any idea how many organizations applied this year for gsoc ? |
| 17:00.39 | jhf | 400 or something,. what's the magic incantation? |
| 17:00.48 | jhf | !stats or something |
| 17:00.49 | socinfo | jhf: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database. |
| 17:01.02 | jhf | !stats |
| 17:01.02 | socinfo | jhf: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 17:01.08 | jhf | hah.. nope, not that one. |
| 17:01.34 | MatthewWilkes | I heard 430 |
| 17:01.34 | abhishekdelta | probability for an organization to get accepted : 0.25 ! |
| 17:01.47 | MatthewWilkes | abhishekdelta: Assuming all applications are equal |
| 17:01.59 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, is that the actual chance (1/4 of all orgs are getting accepted this year?) |
| 17:02.27 | aghisla | we could accept 1/4 of each org :P |
| 17:02.32 | mlankhorst | !so far wine has been here since the very first one :D |
| 17:03.04 | abhishekdelta | Infact, It would be higher for new organizations as Google said they'd be expanding gsoc this year and letting new ones come in.. |
| 17:03.08 | tty3 | hmm 25% acceptance sounds pretty good, maybe my org has a better chance! |
| 17:03.26 | bahaa | what org ? |
| 17:03.33 | tty3 | bahaa, Syncleus |
| 17:03.34 | MatthewWilkes | I know this is for the students, but… |
| 17:03.36 | MatthewWilkes | !chances |
| 17:03.40 | MatthewWilkes | dammit |
| 17:03.43 | tty3 | bahaa, http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/dANN:Roadmap |
| 17:03.45 | jrabbit | lol |
| 17:03.48 | jhf | there's one that says how many orgs applied MatthewWilkes |
| 17:03.54 | mlankhorst | no really, its quite simple, high quality ones will get accepted :P |
| 17:04.04 | bahaa | oh |
| 17:04.05 | bahaa | AI |
| 17:04.08 | abhishekdelta | @tty3: yeah, and i'd say more than 50% if your org is supported by a big org.. |
| 17:04.17 | MatthewWilkes | !odds |
| 17:04.24 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: no chances :) |
| 17:04.27 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, we are supported by an org that has gotten into GSoC before |
| 17:04.31 | gevaerts | And very little odds too |
| 17:04.39 | MatthewWilkes | !learn odds as Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 17:04.39 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:04.39 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, and we are a 10 year old project actively developed the whole time |
| 17:04.45 | tty3 | bahaa, yup AI :) |
| 17:04.46 | MatthewWilkes | !learn chances as Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 17:04.46 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:04.48 | MatthewWilkes | !odds |
| 17:04.48 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 17:04.49 | MatthewWilkes | :D |
| 17:04.57 | jhf | heheheh |
| 17:05.23 | abhishekdelta | tty3: ur chances are pretty good then :) |
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| 17:06.00 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, thats what i keep getitng told, but im still nervous.. im not sure how google looks at applicants and if they go in-depth enought o find out that we are 10 years old int he first place.. only way they would know is if they looked at the repo |
| 17:06.01 | dbs | GSoC is a win-win situtation; even if our application doesn't get approved, I know that scads of really awesome projects will, and that makes me happy |
| 17:06.01 | mlankhorst | yay |
| 17:06.02 | gevaerts | Tell el-Muqayyar? |
| 17:06.07 | abhishekdelta | how many minutes left for the results ?? |
| 17:06.12 | mlankhorst | new psu arrived, now im no longer forced to use vga text |
| 17:06.13 | mlankhorst | :X |
| 17:06.19 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, do you think they look at the repos of the projects directly and see how old their history is or something? |
| 17:06.54 | gevaerts | tty3: did you say you are ten years old in the application? |
| 17:07.11 | tty3 | gevaerts, no :( which i realized after the application |
| 17:07.19 | jiri_ | As far as I've heard one of the main criteria is popularity of the project |
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| 17:08.13 | abhishekdelta | tty3: well, you should have mentioned that in your app. I don't think they look that deep in the repo but if ur supporting organization mentions that you have a pretty good chance. |
| 17:09.03 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, yea our app worries e a bit.. we threw a bunch int here that seemed relevant but there were some things i should have mentioned i forgot to |
| 17:09.05 | jiri_ | Hmm... wonder if we included that in our application |
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| 17:12.20 | abhishekdelta | tty3: hope for the best ! :) |
| 17:12.40 | tty3 | abhishekdelta, yea i am... we shall see i guess |
| 17:12.45 | Digital_Pioneer | So... where is the list of accepted mentoring orgs? I can't find it. :( |
| 17:13.05 | AmineKhaldi | there isn't any, yet |
| 17:13.06 | |Kev| | There is a reason for that. |
| 17:13.07 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, it isnt "due" for an hour and it may be later than that |
| 17:13.10 | AmineKhaldi | !next |
| 17:13.10 | socinfo | AmineKhaldi: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 17:13.20 | AmineKhaldi | so, around 45 mins from now |
| 17:13.21 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahhhh. |
| 17:13.27 | AmineKhaldi | err |
| 17:13.30 | AmineKhaldi | 1:45 |
| 17:13.39 | tty3 | Has there been any word if they are expected a delay in releasing it this year? or is it sorta like find out when it gets there |
| 17:14.35 | _Samo | hi there |
| 17:14.48 | bahaa | how can i know what orgs applied ? |
| 17:14.54 | _Samo | >waiting for the veredict |
| 17:15.11 | tty3 | bahaa, officially i dont think you can, but unofficially there is a list floating around |
| 17:15.13 | Digital_Pioneer | I saw something that said it was posted last night. The topic said today. :P Timeline mentions the time, but my brain doesn't work on UTC. xP |
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| 17:15.31 | AmineKhaldi | :) |
| 17:15.50 | bahaa | tty3, yep where do i float to find it ? |
| 17:16.08 | tty3 | bahaa, i wish i could remember, i added my own organization to the list but didnt bookmark it :( |
| 17:16.20 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, i would suspect if that was true carols would hav esaid something earlier |
| 17:16.47 | bahaa | i see |
| 17:16.50 | bahaa | well |
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| 17:17.11 | bahaa | it's only 1:44 mins remaining |
| 17:17.12 | carols | tty3: you rang? |
| 17:17.13 | Digital_Pioneer | tty3: And what is your organization? :P |
| 17:17.35 | bahaa | Syncleus |
| 17:17.38 | bahaa | AI |
| 17:17.55 | tty3 | carols, nope, just mentioned your name :) someone here thought you released the list last night, i was just saying if that w2as true you would hav elikely said so here |
| 17:17.58 | bahaa | Jython for GSOC 11 ? |
| 17:18.08 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, yea what bahaa said |
| 17:18.20 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/dANN:Roadmap thats our ideas page |
| 17:18.25 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahhh, AI. An intriguing topic in which I have no experience whatsoever. :P |
| 17:18.36 | carols | tty3: ah, yes indeed |
| 17:18.42 | bahaa | indeed ? |
| 17:19.05 | bahaa | that u posted, or would have told bout ? |
| 17:19.40 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, we actually hav ea lot of supporting needs that ultimately are for our AI stuff but in and of themselves have nothing to do with AI (like our Hermes communications library which will be at the core of our distributed processing but by itself is not AI) |
| 17:20.15 | bahaa | such tasty stuff there |
| 17:20.44 | tty3 | bahaa, its been my passion for a decade, so i have to agree :) |
| 17:20.52 | bahaa | :) |
| 17:20.58 | Digital_Pioneer | Distributed processing. Well, I've dabbled in MPI. Hahahah |
| 17:21.19 | bahaa | AI is my dream too, yet i'm beginner beggar |
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| 17:21.26 | Digital_Pioneer | carols: So are you the official Google rep here? |
| 17:21.28 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, the hermes i speak of will be mostly pure tcp/udp but generalized to any stream/packetized transport prototocol |
| 17:21.41 | carols | Digital_Pioneer: indeed. |
| 17:21.43 | Digital_Pioneer | Oooh, low level stuff. |
| 17:21.44 | carols | puts on flack jacket |
| 17:22.41 | _Samo | lol |
| 17:22.43 | Digital_Pioneer | carols: Hahah, well no flack from me. I love Google. |
| 17:22.48 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, yea its low level, hermes itself.. the best way to describe it is a library/toolkit/sdk for writing prototols on top of low-level transport mechanisms |
| 17:23.00 | carols | Digital_Pioneer: glad to hear it. :-) |
| 17:23.21 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, damnit, why didnt i think of kissing up! now if i do it it will seem so fake :) |
| 17:23.28 | tty3 | carols, have i mentioned your damn handsom :) lol |
| 17:23.33 | bahaa | can i install android on iphone ? |
| 17:23.34 | bahaa | lol |
| 17:23.39 | HerraBRE | tty3: or genuine, as it's probably too late to make a difference ;) |
| 17:23.50 | tty3 | HerraBRE, :) |
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| 17:24.12 | Digital_Pioneer | tty3: Lol, sorry. I should've PM'd you first. |
| 17:24.38 | carols | tty3: i'm curious. are women considered "handsome" in other countries? in the US it's kind of only used to refer to men. |
| 17:24.40 | Digital_Pioneer | bahaa: Original iPhone, yes. I hear it runs like crap. :) |
| 17:24.46 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, i know right, making me look bad :) |
| 17:25.13 | bahaa | i got the android software, now just need the iphone xD |
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| 17:25.16 | HerraBRE | carols: In Iceland, we use the same word. But it has different connotations, handsomeness has more to do with character in a woman, here. |
| 17:25.26 | carols | HerraBRE: interesting! i didn't know that. |
| 17:25.34 | carols | i learn something new everyday. |
| 17:25.36 | Digital_Pioneer | bahaa: Ooh, you got a copy of Android? Wow, that's impressive. ;) |
| 17:25.44 | HerraBRE | (we don't speak English, but we have an equivalent word) |
| 17:25.45 | tty3 | carols, oh im sorry didnt know you were a women :) int hat case your very beautiful (the name should hav egiven it away, some reason i kept reading it carlos, probably an unfortunate happenstance of computer science having a predominance of males :( ) |
| 17:25.50 | bahaa | lol |
| 17:26.05 | Sakchhi | tty3 : I visited your ideas page. quite interesting. |
| 17:26.18 | bahaa | aint it, Sakchhi ? :) |
| 17:26.29 | carols | tty3: yes, women in CS are certainly in the minority. but there's a lot of women trying to change that |
| 17:26.35 | Sakchhi | ya quite |
| 17:26.40 | tty3 | Sakchhi, awesome :) we can, and likely will add a lot more to it. If we get accepted keep an eye on it if your interested :) |
| 17:26.45 | |Kev| | And tonight we have an extract, read by tty3, taken from "How to make friends". The chapter is entitled "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were a man". |
| 17:26.48 | Digital_Pioneer | tty3: Check her /whois. Carol Smith. xP |
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| 17:27.18 | Sakchhi | I wanted to know how much Java skills are required? |
| 17:27.24 | |Kev| | None. |
| 17:27.29 | Digital_Pioneer | carols: Yeah, one of my teachers is getting his PhD in... ehh, something about bringing more girls into CS. |
| 17:27.29 | tty3 | carols, well i hope they succeed personally. The bias seems to be so large that it makes me uncomfortable. I dont like to see one "class" of people predominate in anything too much |
| 17:27.40 | |Kev| | Sakchhi: Or lots. |
| 17:27.52 | bahaa | Sakchhi, depneds on the project, Sakchhi i think |
| 17:28.07 | |Kev| | (Seriously, those things depend on the project you choose / org you apply to etc.) |
| 17:28.10 | Sakchhi | OK Thanks |
| 17:28.20 | carols | yeah, there just aren't enough women in CS overall. |
| 17:28.24 | tty3 | Sakchhi, depends ont he idea you take on... some ideas are purely java, others rely more heavily on other languages.. since part of our framework is focused on inter-language bindings and brining in other libraries as part of the framework (Even non-java ones) there is pretty much an idea waiting to happen for every language out ther e(Assuming it is a popular language atleast) |
| 17:28.33 | Digital_Pioneer | carols: Agreed. |
| 17:28.49 | CharlieM | Speaking of girls in CS.. a few weeks ago a girl came in during my tutoring session.. very attractive, cheerleader, snowboarder, programmer.. and EQ addict... I thought I was dreaming |
| 17:28.55 | Digital_Pioneer | (I am male, in case there's any confusion. Hahah) |
| 17:29.00 | |Kev| | carols: I noticed my CSS In a Nutshell lying on my desk earlier. This pleased me (She's not a compsci, she's a historian). |
| 17:29.04 | carols | CharlieM: let |
| 17:29.08 | |Kev| | *On my wife's desk. |
| 17:29.13 | Sakchhi | So, for a beginner interested in your project, what would be the best place to start? |
| 17:29.26 | carols | CharlieM: let's keep the discussion polite :-) |
| 17:29.29 | |Kev| | CSS Pocket Guide actually, I'm wrong. |
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| 17:29.40 | Sakchhi | M aybe a project requiring more Java than other skills? |
| 17:29.59 | tty3 | CharlieM, geek girls are awesome :) it reminds me of way back int he day when iw as in hs.. ther ewas only one real CS girl int he whole school (that i knew of) and boy did i have a crush on her :) |
| 17:30.10 | bahaa | erm |
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| 17:30.48 | tty3 | Sakchhi, well that depends on the persons skills... but you might want to join #dANN to discuss my project specifically.. im not sure it would be appreciated here or not (might seem as blatent advertising :) ) |
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| 17:30.58 | shyguy1188 | anyone have any idea about Akonadi and openSync...? |
| 17:31.13 | Sakchhi | ok sure. Thanks a lot |
| 17:31.15 | Digital_Pioneer | Sakchhi: I think you would do well to go over the mentor list and their ideas lists when they come out, look for something Java-centric. |
| 17:31.31 | Digital_Pioneer | shyguy1188: KDE stuff. :D |
| 17:31.38 | Digital_Pioneer | Well, Akonadi is. |
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| 17:31.55 | shyguy1188 | Digital_Pioneer, yeah :D |
| 17:31.59 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, i think Sakchhi was asking me specifically as we are a project with a java focus |
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| 17:32.25 | shyguy1188 | Digital_Pioneer, anything about, how it works ? |
| 17:32.27 | Digital_Pioneer | tty3: Syncleus? That's written in Java? |
| 17:33.01 | khrm | !next |
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| 17:33.01 | socinfo | khrm: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 17:33.15 | tty3 | Digital_Pioneer, dANN is the project, Syncleus is the organization.. and dANN is, at the core, written in java. however it heavily depends on inter-language bindings so there is a nice chunk of work needed for dANN in almost every popular language. so java is the core, but all languages play a big role |
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| 17:33.50 | Digital_Pioneer | shyguy1188: Sadly, none whatsoever. Actually, I'm woefully ignorant in all matters of how KDE works. I'm kinda hoping to work with something KDE this summer so I can get better acquainted. I love KDE. |
| 17:34.02 | homunq1 | !slots |
| 17:34.11 | mlankhorst | kde will easily get through :p |
| 17:34.11 | Digital_Pioneer | tty3: OK, cool |
| 17:34.22 | Digital_Pioneer | mlankhorst: That's what I'm thinking. |
| 17:34.23 | homunq1 | !spaces |
| 17:34.38 | Digital_Pioneer | !exclamationpoints |
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| 17:34.53 | homunq1 | isn't that how you talk to the bot? |
| 17:35.37 | shyguy1188 | Digital_Pioneer, ok :) |
| 17:35.46 | homunq1 | Well, do any humans know how many orgs are anticipated to get in? |
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| 17:36.04 | Digital_Pioneer | homunq1: carols probably. Hehehe |
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| 17:37.04 | homunq1 | OK. Let me rephrase. Do any humans know non-secret information about how many &c? |
| 17:37.40 | homunq1 | OK, apparently not. |
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| 17:37.56 | mlankhorst | up to 15% and more :) |
| 17:37.56 | dhaun | !patience |
| 17:37.56 | socinfo | dhaun: "patience" is Patience is very important in GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 17:38.15 | Digital_Pioneer | mlankhorst: Yes! xkcdftw |
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| 17:40.11 | zee | !new |
| 17:40.21 | hartem | !next |
| 17:40.22 | socinfo | hartem: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 17:40.50 | dmp | waiting :) |
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| 17:45.05 | Digital_Pioneer | Terrible programming in here... An entire IRC channel full of busy waiting processes. while ( !orgList.posted() ); |
| 17:45.42 | dmp | :D |
| 17:45.50 | mlankhorst | Not really, waiting for something to finish compiling |
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| 17:45.56 | kblin | actually I've just registered for a callback once the results are out |
| 17:46.04 | carols | mlankhorst: you're not slacking off, your code's compiling :-) |
| 17:46.11 | mlankhorst | exactly |
| 17:46.18 | mlankhorst | but with my new system i cant use that excuse any more |
| 17:46.22 | mlankhorst | full build takes 5 minutes :\ |
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| 17:47.49 | kblin | mlankhorst: dammit :) |
| 17:48.30 | gevaerts | manages to introduce a variable named "cycle_path" into this code :) |
| 17:48.54 | mlankhorst | kblin: well its enough time for a coffee |
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| 17:49.32 | kblin | you need to get into bioinformatics.. a full run of my software pipeline takes about 8-9 hours on a 24-core box |
| 17:49.38 | mlankhorst | gold linker seems to work with wine, no idea if it saves much |
| 17:49.55 | |Kev| | Surely you just write less efficient code if you want more 'compiling' tite :) |
| 17:50.00 | |Kev| | s/tite/time/ |
| 17:50.25 | jrabbit | or bootstrap gcc 4 time before :P |
| 17:50.45 | carols | refreshes the tea and coffee |
| 17:50.46 | |Kev| | jrabbit: That's wasting time, and wrong. |
| 17:50.52 | carols | a lot of people in here today :-) |
| 17:50.56 | |Kev| | Writing inefficient code is merely avoiding premature optimisation. |
| 17:50.58 | mlankhorst | im not bootstrapping gcc, just for my 64-build I do a single pass gcc build |
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| 17:51.14 | kblin | carols: ah, 318 isn't peak |
| 17:51.18 | kblin | durnit, 319 |
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| 17:51.27 | carols | kblin: um, what? |
| 17:51.29 | tty3 | secretly replaces all of carols coffee with espresso and waits for the organization list ahead of schedule :) |
| 17:51.40 | carols | tty3: good luck with that :-) |
| 17:51.47 | tty3 | hehe |
| 17:52.06 | kblin | carols: before the accepted students are announced is this channel's peak traffic |
| 17:52.12 | jrabbit | |Kev|: I was actuallyquite amazed that gcc bootstraps itself a few times in a "normal |
| 17:52.15 | jrabbit | *" compile |
| 17:52.18 | carols | kblin: ah, yes |
| 17:52.47 | kblin | but actually the fastest scrolling channel I've ever been in was during conflict resolution meetings |
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| 17:53.10 | kblin | tty3: I guess !when still applies |
| 17:53.12 | kblin | !when |
| 17:53.12 | socinfo | kblin: "when" is later |
| 17:53.27 | jrabbit | lol. |
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| 17:53.34 | carols | hehe i like "when." i need to use that one more often |
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| 17:54.25 | kblin | and of course.. |
| 17:54.27 | kblin | !later |
| 17:54.27 | socinfo | kblin: "later" is when |
| 17:54.32 | tty3 | heheh |
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| 17:54.51 | Digital_Pioneer | But "when" is later? |
| 17:54.54 | tty3 | carols, actually you take yoru time, no pressure, an hour or a day wont really make much of a difference. Im just being silly :) |
| 17:55.09 | carols | tty3: oh, i will take all the time I like :-) |
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| 17:56.02 | kblin | Digital_Pioneer: Welcome to the dept. of redundancy dept., and hello |
| 17:56.05 | tty3 | carols, lol :) |
| 17:56.20 | hypatia | are we there yet, are we there yet |
| 17:56.31 | hypatia | is kidding :) |
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| 17:56.48 | Digital_Pioneer | hypatia: Yeah, they released the list 2 hours ago. Weren't you paying attention? |
| 17:56.48 | kblin | isn't there yet and heads home |
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| 17:57.36 | hypatia | Digital_Pioneer: i was on a plane :( |
| 17:57.41 | chartotu | digital_pioneer : Can you please give the link to the list.........i am not able to see the list on the homepage |
| 17:57.50 | tty3 | hypatia, you keep that up and im turning the internet around! |
| 17:58.00 | hypatia | tty3: but i am hungry! |
| 17:58.11 | hypatia | sings the wheels on the bus |
| 17:58.15 | Digital_Pioneer | chartotu: Sorry, I was kidding. No list yet. |
| 17:58.21 | carols | chartotu: the list wont be published for another hour. 19:00 UTC. |
| 17:58.22 | chartotu | :( |
| 17:58.28 | chartotu | ohk |
| 17:58.32 | kblin | !chill |
| 17:58.36 | kblin | bah |
| 17:59.04 | kblin | !learn chill as what you all need to do. Also see !when. |
| 17:59.04 | socinfo | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:59.10 | Digital_Pioneer | I guess that's why they get mad when you advise people to use rm as a diagnostic utility. |
| 17:59.14 | kblin | there, more entry points to the endless loop |
| 17:59.38 | kblin | yes |
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| 18:00.25 | kblin | needs to catch his bus |
| 18:00.33 | kblin | anyone got a really big mouse trap? |
| 18:00.45 | tty3 | isnt 19:00 UTC now? or did daylight savings time screw me over again :( |
| 18:00.50 | Digital_Pioneer | Solution to all problems: `rm -rf /*`; if problem not solved, reinstall. |
| 18:00.57 | aghisla | kblin: i've got sweet bus food |
| 18:01.05 | edsiper | tty3, should be in +1 hour |
| 18:01.05 | delta_coder | another 1 hr |
| 18:01.18 | tty3 | edsiper, ahh my fault then |
| 18:01.18 | carols | tty3: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=18&year=2011&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 |
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| 18:01.41 | tty3 | carols, thanks, you're a saint to put up with the likes of me :) |
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| 18:02.11 | carols | tty3: im a very patient person. also, i like my job so I have a high tolerance for noise. |
| 18:02.14 | tty3 | carols, i see google employees now have their own built-in search engine too :) |
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| 18:02.31 | carols | tty3: yep. its a new feature in the most recent release |
| 18:02.41 | tty3 | carols, still in beta though right? :) |
| 18:02.49 | carols | tty3: i dont know, you tell me |
| 18:02.56 | tty3 | :) |
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| 18:04.17 | carols | hey censorydep |
| 18:04.20 | carols | happy friday |
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| 18:07.24 | tty3 | praveen im pretty sure it is.. how else would they print a map on flat paper? some sort of magic? |
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| 18:08.17 | iamaregee | tty3 lols.. |
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| 18:08.33 | tty3 | :) |
| 18:08.44 | iamaregee | :) |
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| 18:08.59 | praveen97uma | tty3 : one should understand emotions |
| 18:09.22 | tty3 | praveen97uma, huh? emotions? |
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| 18:11.46 | LetterRip | dang it - i remembered 50 minutes too early |
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| 18:12.24 | tty3 | lol |
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| 18:13.38 | shyguy1188 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.54 | SRabbelier | shyguy1188: no, but it usually helps |
| 18:13.58 | ravenlock | entirely up to the Org |
| 18:14.09 | edsiper | shyguy1188, not mandatory |
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| 18:14.23 | HerraBRE | shyguy1188: you want to somehow convince the organization that you can code, that is only one of many good ways to do that. :) |
| 18:14.30 | SukhE | But if the org asks for it and specifies that it is a requirement, then it is. |
| 18:14.44 | praveen97uma | tty3 : leave it sir .. i m in a world where guys think logically all the time |
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| 18:15.28 | tty3 | :) |
| 18:15.30 | shyguy1188 | SRabbelier, edsiper HerraBRE that's fine, then what's the altenative? say, i hvn't contributed anything. |
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| 18:16.04 | iamaregee | shyguy1188 passion for coding and learning attitude ... :) |
| 18:16.07 | edsiper | shyguy1188, this is the opportunity to start doing it |
| 18:16.08 | steev | I think Gentoo has asked the past few years for students to find a bug with a patch needed and supply one |
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| 18:16.25 | LetterRip | shyguy1188: no it isn't a requirement of gsoc but might be of your organization |
| 18:16.32 | SukhE | shyguy1188, like everyone said, talk to the org. Ask what they want. |
| 18:16.32 | LetterRip | you can start doing a patch now though |
| 18:16.38 | edsiper | shyguy1188, in any case, all orgs would like to get new contributors... with GSoC or without it... |
| 18:16.47 | SRabbelier | shyguy1188: get involved with the organization you want to apply with |
| 18:17.10 | steev | one of my students a few years back is now a Gentoo dev, and i *think* he mentored someone in GSOC last year |
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| 18:18.04 | iamaregee1 | this time ..Python software foundation has put up that criteria..... |
| 18:18.20 | iamaregee1 | as far as I am aware off.. |
| 18:18.33 | praveen97uma | when will the list be released? |
| 18:18.36 | LetterRip | most orgs are doing so |
| 18:18.40 | shyguy1188 | SRabbelier, edsiper SukhE iamaregee thanks :) |
| 18:18.44 | edsiper | praveen97uma, 1 hour |
| 18:18.47 | Kaushik | Hey guys, its 11:48pm 18th march here in India. When is the list coming out? |
| 18:18.55 | LetterRip | 12 minutes |
| 18:19.01 | LetterRip | oops |
| 18:19.01 | edsiper | KaunMoth, your time + 1 hour |
| 18:19.06 | LetterRip | 42 minutes |
| 18:19.10 | SukhE | ~ 45 minutes |
| 18:19.16 | Kaushik | sounds good |
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| 18:19.20 | aghisla | time to compile some code! |
| 18:19.27 | tty3 | well more like 40 minutes now :) |
| 18:19.34 | LetterRip | you and your odball half hour threw me off :) |
| 18:20.02 | Kaushik | im new to gsoc. Does it make any difference, apart from technical difficulty/exposure, when you choose an organization? |
| 18:20.23 | shyguy1188 | SRabbelier, edsiper so do i hv to talk with the KDE, as i'm trying to apply for the kde idea? |
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| 18:20.40 | shyguy1188 | SRabbelier, edsiper on the irc channel? |
| 18:20.44 | SRabbelier | shyguy1188: that would be a good idea, yes |
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| 18:21.02 | praveen97uma | kaushik : just show the organisation what u got.. prove it to them that u can do the coding |
| 18:23.05 | Kaushik | yes i get that. But it still doesn't make a difference as to which organization one chooses right? |
| 18:23.18 | Kaushik | apart from the technical stuff i.e |
| 18:23.19 | shyguy1188 | SRabbelier, :) |
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| 18:26.07 | KaunMoth | edsiper, that's very kind of you but I never said anything |
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| 18:26.33 | praveen97uma | kaushik : what i know that one should choose an organisation and a project according to the skills one possess and if not then convince the mentors that u can complete the projects successfully starting from scratch in time |
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| 18:27.01 | edsiper | KaunMoth, ups, wrong nickname, sorry :) |
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| 18:27.26 | Kaushik | praveeb97uma: Thank you. That was useful. |
| 18:27.26 | KaunMoth | edsiper, tsk tsk, read before you tabcomlete =P |
| 18:27.28 | edsiper | shyguy1188, yes, you should start looking at KDE project ideas and talk with developers |
| 18:28.10 | shyguy1188 | edsiper, i'm trying :) and hopefully will get the positive result outta it |
| 18:28.18 | edsiper | shyguy1188, no matters the organization, always try to contact them before to apply, so your idea can be aligned with the requirements |
| 18:28.38 | Kaushik | I learnt C++ on a torbo compiler, anyone who can suggest whats being used universally now? Visual C++ or something else? |
| 18:28.44 | Kaushik | turbo*. |
| 18:28.54 | elricL | Kaushik, g++ |
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| 18:28.56 | shyguy1188 | Kaushik, g++ |
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| 18:29.23 | praveen97uma | kaushik : depends but mainly g++ |
| 18:29.24 | shyguy1188 | Kaushik, u can use that too, but using g++ is better |
| 18:29.26 | iamaregee | hey peeps ...out of the two which one has is better pyqt or pygtk.... ?? I mean which has wider deployment ?? |
| 18:29.28 | shadeslayer | Kaushik: That compiler is 20 years old |
| 18:29.30 | shadeslayer | :D |
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| 18:29.36 | shadeslayer | no one uses it anymore |
| 18:29.39 | shyguy1188 | :) |
| 18:29.57 | elricL | !next |
| 18:29.57 | socinfo | elricL: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 18:29.58 | edsiper | iamaregee, depends of your needs, is like to ask "windows" or "linux".. .will depend of the purpose |
| 18:29.58 | Kaushik | I know its twenty years old, but that's what we were taught when i was in high school :P |
| 18:30.12 | zubin71 | Hey, the list of mentoring organizations haven't been put up yet. Delay? |
| 18:30.16 | tty3 | I'd marry g++ if it werent for the damn laws! |
| 18:30.22 | edsiper | zubin71, + 30 minutes |
| 18:30.24 | SukhE | zubin71, in about 30 minutes |
| 18:30.29 | zubin71 | nice. |
| 18:30.32 | zubin71 | thanks |
| 18:30.35 | edsiper | np |
| 18:30.40 | shadeslayer | tty3: lol |
| 18:30.42 | gevaerts | zubin71: it's not 19:00 UTC yet! |
| 18:30.49 | elricL | tty3, why g++ when you have python? |
| 18:30.51 | shadeslayer | another 30 minutes |
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| 18:30.57 | zubin71 | gevaerts: timeszones always confuse me :/ |
| 18:31.00 | shadeslayer | elricL: because python breaks |
| 18:31.06 | shadeslayer | many times |
| 18:31.13 | iamaregee | hmm....actually i've been finding that this qt has wider acceptability than gtk ..... |
| 18:31.14 | gevaerts | zubin71: then don't use them, and just keep all your clocks on UTC :) |
| 18:31.24 | praveen97uma | tty3 : i have started loving your statements or comments whatever u call them |
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| 18:31.27 | elricL | shadeslayer, blasphemy |
| 18:31.31 | tty3 | elricL, id marry G++ but python would be for th3e affair :) |
| 18:31.43 | elricL | tty3, :D |
| 18:31.46 | shadeslayer | :P |
| 18:31.52 | Kaushik | shadeslayer, and i developed a game of othello on it with a computer oponent :D. Is that good enough for any organization? |
| 18:31.55 | tty3 | praveen97uma, :) |
| 18:31.58 | iamaregee | tty3 agree with u ... |
| 18:32.10 | shadeslayer | Kaushik: uh ... uh ... idk how to answer that |
| 18:32.19 | edsiper | zubin71, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/foxclocks/ <- it helps a lot :) |
| 18:32.42 | SukhE | Or, 'date -u' |
| 18:32.43 | Inc | edsiper: who uses firefox anymore? :P |
| 18:32.44 | praveen97uma | tty3: u rock :) |
| 18:32.48 | shadeslayer | elricL: i've been trying to deal with python issues for my project for the past ... 7 months |
| 18:32.49 | edsiper | Kaushik, language ? |
| 18:32.57 | edsiper | Inc, i do |
| 18:33.03 | zubin71 | edsiper: nice |
| 18:33.06 | Kaushik | edspider: c++ |
| 18:33.16 | tty3 | headbangs to death metal for praveen97uma |
| 18:33.21 | edsiper | Kaushik, any UI ? |
| 18:33.24 | shadeslayer | elricL: basically the issue ended up being python and bzr taking up too much RAM |
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| 18:34.13 | elricL | shadeslayer, I havent done anything very large in python, I made a file transfer app and a couple of other pet projects. |
| 18:34.22 | shadeslayer | ah |
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| 18:34.36 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: what kind of issues? |
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| 18:34.38 | shadeslayer | elricL: if you mean python for making quick apps, then python us awesum |
| 18:34.44 | Kaushik | edsiper: yup. I had a menu, to start, resume, save and load games. If that qualifies as an UI. |
| 18:34.46 | edsiper | 344 users and growing |
| 18:35.08 | conner_bw | is this the countdown to approved mentors channel? |
| 18:35.08 | elricL | shadeslayer, yeah,plus "quickly" makes life a snap. |
| 18:35.09 | iamaregee | RAM reminds me ...I jus 've 2.5 gig of ram (centrino duo)on my laptop...do i need to upgrade it ?? |
| 18:35.10 | praveen97uma | tty3: are u a student? |
| 18:35.20 | edsiper | Kaushik, if it were GTK based, i would suggest you to try sugar labs |
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| 18:35.25 | homunq1 | shadeslayer: So "breaks" is just "runs out of memory"? |
| 18:35.27 | shadeslayer | zubin71: if you import a qtwebkit git clone into bzr |
| 18:35.27 | tty3 | praveen97uma, nope im the admin for an org |
| 18:35.34 | shadeslayer | it runs out of memory |
| 18:35.47 | shadeslayer | homunq1: it's one of the issues |
| 18:35.57 | shadeslayer | there are SIP issues too |
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| 18:36.12 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: hmm never done qt/gtk stuff so cant help there :/ |
| 18:36.19 | homunq1 | sorry, SIP =? |
| 18:36.27 | shadeslayer | zubin71: err ... bzr is all python |
| 18:36.30 | shadeslayer | no qt/gtk |
| 18:36.31 | UndiFineD | PONG, somebody rang ? |
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| 18:36.47 | homunq1 | but... bzr being a memory hog does not imply that python is. |
| 18:36.49 | shadeslayer | zubin71: http://wiki.python.org/moin/SIP |
| 18:36.58 | shadeslayer | homunq1: no it doesn't |
| 18:37.01 | praveen97uma | tty3 : oh! :) |
| 18:37.04 | tty3 | praveen97uma, hopefully an admin of an arg that is about to get in to GSoC in about 20 minutes :) |
| 18:37.10 | zubin71 | read the last msg rong. my bad. |
| 18:37.18 | tty3 | *org |
| 18:37.19 | shadeslayer | but if you look at overall performance, python takes up more mem than ... say C++ |
| 18:37.42 | iamaregee | tty3 whats yr org ??/ |
| 18:38.00 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: well, pythons probably slower but the whole emphasis is on programmer speed. you could whip up a prototype in half the time |
| 18:38.02 | shadeslayer | also .. no braces!!! ( that isn't exactly a "breaks" but i find it weird :P ) |
| 18:38.03 | Kaushik | edsiper: its not GTK based. And i have no experience using it. But do you think learning it from scratch could help? |
| 18:38.14 | shadeslayer | zubin71: yep... i agree on that |
| 18:38.17 | praveen97uma | tty3: i wish your org makes it to gsoc :) |
| 18:38.19 | tty3 | iamaregee, Syncleus, our main project is dANN.. you can see our ideas page here : http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/dANN:Roadmap Also feel free to join our IRC room #dANN |
| 18:38.22 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: and im surprised you use bzr when theres git/hg around ;) |
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| 18:38.34 | shadeslayer | zubin71: i wish Launchpad had git!~ |
| 18:38.36 | tty3 | praveen97uma, i wish your wish comes true! |
| 18:38.40 | elricL | shadeslayer, I am usually more concerned about running time,I code for a lot of algorithm competitions. |
| 18:38.41 | zubin71 | aah |
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| 18:38.52 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: ubuntu contributor? |
| 18:38.53 | shadeslayer | our work would have been done in 4-5 months max |
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| 18:38.55 | edsiper | Kaushik, in 2006 i took one project without known gtk or python, have to learn in the way... and it really helps |
| 18:38.56 | ThomasWaldmann | moin |
| 18:38.56 | shadeslayer | zubin71: yes |
| 18:39.04 | shadeslayer | zubin71: heard of Project Neon? |
| 18:39.08 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: cool! thought so... |
| 18:39.12 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: nope |
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| 18:39.16 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: whats it about? |
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| 18:39.19 | Kaushik | edsiper: Thanks a ton. Will definitely look into it! |
| 18:39.23 | conner_bw | Let's say I have a multi platform app (Windows / Mac / Linux) with open XML file formats and an extensive API (Lua). The app is closed but the API is open and licensed under MIT (Hosted here: https://code.google.com/p/xrnx/ ) This doesn't qualify for GSoC? Or? |
| 18:39.25 | shadeslayer | zubin71: provides nightly builds of KDE :) |
| 18:40.32 | edsiper | Kaushik, np :) |
| 18:40.32 | homunq1 | conner_bw: not this year, application is done |
| 18:40.32 | conner_bw | i mean, next year |
| 18:40.32 | shadeslayer | zubin71: http://dot.kde.org/2011/03/11/confkdein-project-neon-returns-bleeding-edge-kde-software |
| 18:40.32 | zubin71 | nice! nightly builds meaning testing is included too? |
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| 18:40.32 | shadeslayer | ( thats me at the stage ) |
| 18:40.32 | zubin71 | shadeslayer: ^ |
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| 18:40.32 | shadeslayer | zubin71: if you mean building tests, yes |
| 18:40.32 | zubin71 | cool |
| 18:40.32 | shadeslayer | if you mean does it run, yes |
| 18:40.32 | conner_bw | homunq1: does an OPEN API count as an open source project? |
| 18:40.32 | shadeslayer | altho it can break on a particular day |
| 18:40.40 | tty3 | conner_bw, it needs to be a project released under an OSI approved license |
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| 18:41.08 | Kaushik | edsiper: I've also been a webdeveloper. I know good HTML, CSS and PHP. I'm learning AJAX. I have experience "using" CMSs like Joomla. What kind of organizations would you suggest? |
| 18:41.10 | conner_bw | tty3: the entire project right? That's what I thought. |
| 18:41.21 | edsiper | Kaushik, joomla ? :) |
| 18:41.23 | tty3 | conner_bw, the ideas proposed specifically IIRC |
| 18:41.32 | elricL | tty3, I really could do the "Improve dANNÂ’s Graph API",too bad am python and c++ dev guy |
| 18:41.35 | shadeslayer | hehe |
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| 18:41.58 | shadeslayer | Kaushik: ever contributed a module to Drupal? ( idk what joomla uses ) |
| 18:42.03 | tty3 | elricL, we have C++ and python needs as well (in fact we have a need for an idea for each major language really) |
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| 18:42.07 | conner_bw | tty3: thanks, cheers. |
| 18:42.12 | edsiper | Kaushik, look into web projects like joomla, drupal, wordpress... learn their API and then the core, you will be able to contribute a lot |
| 18:42.43 | pygi | tty3: do you need cd burning support? :P |
| 18:42.48 | iamaregee | tty3 ..u're org except freshers ??? |
| 18:43.00 | tty3 | pygi, hehe no |
| 18:43.11 | pygi | pygi is sad :( |
| 18:43.13 | tty3 | iamaregee, what do you mean by "except freshers" ? |
| 18:43.15 | Kaushik | edsiper: Oh great. I feel like that also sort of falls into my field. But Joomla didn't participate last year right? I checked! |
| 18:43.17 | pygi | nobody wants my ideas! |
| 18:43.37 | iamaregee | accept freshers.... |
| 18:43.40 | edsiper | Kaushik, not sure, but is good to review past GSoC/organizations and projects done |
| 18:43.41 | iamaregee | sorry my bad.. |
| 18:44.54 | carols | serves some cookies |
| 18:45.00 | tty3 | iamaregee, what is a "fresher"? |
| 18:45.06 | iamaregee | by freshers i mean who knows coding ..but not worked on any project till now ... |
| 18:45.12 | edsiper | wondering same about "fresher" |
| 18:45.17 | Kaushik | edsiper: I've been reviewing. But Having a hard time choosing an org. So how do student ideas work? We are also allowed to contribute fresh ideas? Or only the project ideas being offered? |
| 18:45.34 | tty3 | iamaregee, any project, any open sourc eproject, or any GSoC project? |
| 18:45.46 | Kaushik | edsiper: safer to stick to the given ideas right? |
| 18:45.47 | tty3 | iamaregee, i am not sure how you can "know how to code" if youve never worked on any project of any sort |
| 18:45.51 | edsiper | Kaushik, offered and fresh ideas, that's why Google encourage people to contact the project leaders before to apply |
| 18:46.07 | carols | !learn meeting as The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 19:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 18:46.07 | socinfo | carols: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:46.07 | zubin71 | Kaushik: choose an org which you are passionate about. ideas, it could be yours or the orgs' |
| 18:46.10 | edsiper | Kaushik, also you can improve or expand project ideas |
| 18:46.28 | tty3 | carols, lol i see your preparing yorur defences for whent he list comes out :) |
| 18:46.30 | jimregan | Kaushik, you can suggest your own ideas if you want, but the organisation needs to have someone who feels they can mentor it |
| 18:46.34 | edsiper | Kaushik, but discuss that before to submit your final application |
| 18:46.45 | m1k3y | Kaushik: some orgs explicitly discourage new ideas because they offer a wide variety of ideas themselves |
| 18:46.46 | carols | tty3: indeed. it's all about preparation |
| 18:46.52 | akashm1990 | !meeting |
| 18:46.53 | socinfo | akashm1990: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 19:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 18:47.05 | m1k3y | Kaushik: and they would like work that they've planned to be done before new work can be integrated |
| 18:47.07 | conner_bw | Is it the final countdown extended mix yet? |
| 18:47.33 | carols | oops |
| 18:47.41 | carols | !learn meeting as The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 18:47.41 | socinfo | carols: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:47.44 | carols | there we go |
| 18:47.46 | carols | !meeting |
| 18:47.46 | socinfo | carols: "meeting" is (#1) The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 19:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel., or (#2) The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 18:47.52 | carols | damn |
| 18:47.52 | Kaushik | wow, thats a lot of replies :). Yeah, that's what I was thinking too... |
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| 18:48.00 | pygi | !forget meeting |
| 18:48.01 | socinfo | pygi: Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them. |
| 18:48.04 | pygi | aww :D |
| 18:48.09 | edsiper | hope not to attend rejected's meeting |
| 18:48.15 | pygi | !forget meeting 1 |
| 18:48.16 | socinfo | pygi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:48.20 | pygi | better now carols? :p |
| 18:48.23 | carols | thanks pygi |
| 18:48.23 | akashm1990 | !meeting |
| 18:48.24 | socinfo | akashm1990: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 18:48.27 | carols | much appreciated |
| 18:48.29 | carols | that's correct |
| 18:48.36 | akashm1990 | yea |
| 18:48.51 | Kaushik | so my first step would be to contact an organiztion and start mingling with their community right? |
| 18:48.52 | |Kev| | That's 8am for you or so, isn't it? |
| 18:49.03 | carols | |Kev|: 9am |
| 18:49.07 | pygi | Kaushikya but have patience :p |
| 18:49.11 | edsiper | Kaushik, that's right, as soon as you get the approved organizations go ahead... |
| 18:49.21 | |Kev| | Oh, you're -8 but +1, silly me. |
| 18:49.31 | praveen97uma | tty3: I am good at python and c++ but did very little coding in Java.. Will u recommend me working for dANN in developing the Programming Language Extensions if I hone my Java skills? |
| 18:49.32 | akashm1990 | about 11 min left for the results? |
| 18:49.38 | zubin71 | how many of you took part in gsoc last time? |
| 18:49.44 | pygi | 9999 :p |
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| 18:50.28 | Kaushik | pygi: Lol, Im trying :P. I feel like there's so much I need to learn |
| 18:50.32 | praveen97uma | #dANN |
| 18:50.53 | Kaushik | edsiper: Thanks again. You've been mighty helpful. |
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| 18:51.10 | SRabbelier | braces for failure |
| 18:51.11 | edsiper | Kaushik, you're welcome, ping me anytime... |
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| 18:51.21 | conner_bw | SRabbelier: lol |
| 18:51.29 | SRabbelier | checks out Melanges 'maint' branch to be ready |
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| 18:51.36 | pygi | SRabbelier: we all know you cant fail Čp |
| 18:51.42 | pygi | :P |
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| 18:51.59 | SRabbelier | pygi: that's only because we redefine failure :P |
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| 18:52.22 | edsiper | 356 users |
| 18:52.39 | aghisla | 355. |
| 18:52.42 | shadeslayer | edsiper: 355 |
| 18:52.45 | shadeslayer | :P |
| 18:52.50 | zubin71 | :P :D |
| 18:52.53 | edsiper | feels like waiting for "happy new year" |
| 18:52.56 | dotnick | Did I miss the fireworks? |
| 18:52.59 | shadeslayer | haha |
| 18:53.03 | aghisla | champagne! |
| 18:53.05 | shadeslayer | edsiper: yeah same here |
| 18:53.05 | SRabbelier | repeatedly stabs KVIrc in the face |
| 18:53.21 | merlijn | edsiper: this is nothing compared to the madness of student acceptance announcements |
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| 18:53.26 | SRabbelier | I hate translations, hate them. I can't even understand what they're saying 80% of the time. And this horrible program won't even let me choose what language to use! |
| 18:53.29 | abhishekdelta | hehe |
| 18:53.31 | zubin71 | merlijn: true :| |
| 18:53.41 | Kaushik | edsiper: any other organization that would require web programming?? |
| 18:53.44 | shadeslayer | which reminds me |
| 18:53.48 | edsiper | Kaushik, not sure |
| 18:53.51 | shadeslayer | i have to start on my proposal |
| 18:53.58 | shadeslayer | Kaushik: Drupal, Joomla |
| 18:54.01 | shadeslayer | the usual |
| 18:54.03 | abhishekdelta | Kaushik: #pragyan |
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| 18:54.06 | edsiper | merlijn, i was a student, similar feeling |
| 18:54.12 | akashm1990 | shadeslayer: wait 6 mins more.. |
| 18:54.20 | zubin71 | Kaushik: There are loads which require web programming. You should check out the list of orgs from last time. Or maybe you should just wait for a few more mins ;) |
| 18:54.23 | shadeslayer | akashm1990: yeah |
| 18:54.30 | shadeslayer | fiddling with my phone |
| 18:54.35 | Hexxeh | fingers crossed that Chromium/OS is on this year |
| 18:54.43 | shadeslayer | akashm1990: apparently you can boot meego on it |
| 18:54.51 | shadeslayer | but i failed to do so ... :S |
| 18:55.06 | abhishekdelta | Hexxeh: I hope that too ! |
| 18:55.20 | abhishekdelta | Is facebook applying this year too ? |
| 18:55.20 | shadeslayer | heya Hexxeh |
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| 18:55.38 | conner_bw | We're leaving together But still it's farewell And maybe we'll come back, To earth, who can tell? |
| 18:55.46 | SRabbelier | abhishekdelta: wait 5 more minutes and you'll know |
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| 18:56.09 | Hexxeh | can't believe gsoc only has like 3000 followers on twitter |
| 18:56.13 | Hexxeh | would have thought it'd be far more |
| 18:56.27 | tty3 | Hexxeh, that is suprising |
| 18:56.32 | gevaerts | wonders if the 16:00 UTC meeting on the 22nd means that it has to end at 19:00 UTC :) |
| 18:56.34 | zubin71 | Hexxeh: most people subscribe to the ML, so... |
| 18:57.13 | PJRobins | personally don't use twitter at all find it annoying. |
| 18:57.25 | PJRobins | might just be old fashioned... |
| 18:57.30 | tty3 | yea oi dont use twitter either |
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| 18:57.49 | gevaerts | Isn't it "twit, twitter, twitst"? |
| 18:57.54 | ArthurLiu | mmh... is something happening? ;) |
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| 18:58.01 | aghisla | hides the champagne |
| 18:58.03 | conner_bw | AVERT YOUR EYES CHILDREN |
| 18:58.10 | shadeslayer | i use it occasionally |
| 18:58.31 | zubin71 | hmm, i used to use twitter a lot, but not its buzz |
| 18:58.44 | zubin71 | problem is, i cant find a good desktop client for buzz #sob |
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| 18:58.57 | edsiper | not in :/ |
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| 18:59.47 | zubin71 | s/not/now |
| 18:59.58 | aghisla | i don't envy mail clients now :) |
| 19:00.12 | elricL | !next |
| 19:00.12 | socinfo | elricL: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 19:00.14 | conner_bw | email received. |
| 19:00.23 | Nightrose | \o/ |
| 19:00.28 | dotnick | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
| 19:00.30 | shadeslayer | Nightrose: KDE Got in? :D |
| 19:00.31 | zubin71 | its out |
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| 19:00.35 | Nightrose | shadeslayer: yes! |
| 19:00.40 | jhf | REJECTED |
| 19:00.41 | shadeslayer | AWESOME! |
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| 19:00.43 | shadeslayer | :D |
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| 19:00.45 | shadeslayer | oops |
| 19:00.46 | carols | sits back |
| 19:00.48 | aghisla | woot! |
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| 19:00.55 | Nightrose | thank you carols :) |
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| 19:00.57 | Hexxeh | :O |
| 19:00.59 | shadeslayer | hugs Nightrose |
| 19:01.00 | scorche|sh | carols: nice timing! ;) |
| 19:01.01 | Hexxeh | chromium didn't make it in, wow |
| 19:01.03 | carols | yw Nightrose :-) |
| 19:01.04 | dotnick | carols: do you enjoy this? :) |
| 19:01.08 | hartem | !YES |
| 19:01.13 | hypatia | WOOOOOO K9 |
| 19:01.15 | hypatia | :D :D :D |
| 19:01.20 | carols | thanks scorche|sh :-) now it remains to be seen if people get multiple emails |
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| 19:01.24 | zubin71 | is it just me or are a LOT of organizations accepted this time? |
| 19:01.29 | carols | dotnick: yes, although i hate rejecting orgs :-( |
| 19:01.29 | shadeslayer | lol This page is inactive at this time. |
| 19:01.42 | wolfb | Yay we're in! \o/ |
| 19:01.43 | jhf | so carols what'sthe procedure for learning why we were rejected and how to improve for next year? |
| 19:01.44 | scorche|sh | carols: i got 2, yes |
| 19:01.48 | manugupt1 | Where is the list |
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| 19:01.51 | manugupt1 | I cannot finf it |
| 19:01.52 | carols | jhf: !meeting |
| 19:01.56 | carols | !meeting |
| 19:01.56 | socinfo | carols: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:01.56 | |Kev| | !meeting |
| 19:01.57 | socinfo | |Kev|: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:02.00 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: do they say the same thing? |
| 19:02.01 | wolfb | boo we're not in (mlmmj) :( |
| 19:02.02 | manugupt1 | at melange |
| 19:02.03 | shadeslayer | Nightrose: how many slots? :D |
| 19:02.10 | scorche|sh | well, technically i got only one - i got once notification from the webapp and one congrats email |
| 19:02.14 | Nightrose | shadeslayer: we'll know later |
| 19:02.14 | scorche|sh | carols: ^^ |
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| 19:02.17 | shadeslayer | ah |
| 19:02.17 | tty3 | wow wew didnt get in... everyone thought we would :( |
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| 19:02.29 | megansquire_ | we didn't make it either. so much sadness |
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| 19:02.33 | shadeslayer | w00t anyways :D |
| 19:02.35 | manugupt1 | Yes we arein |
| 19:02.37 | akshayagarwal | I know it sound silly but PLEAE POST PERMALINK FOR ACCEPTED ORGS! |
| 19:02.51 | SRabbelier | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
| 19:02.54 | scorche|sh | megansquire_: so attend the meeting and apply next year! |
| 19:02.57 | carols | hey, let's be careful with the yelling in this channel, eh? |
| 19:03.01 | |Kev| | carols: Thank you. |
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| 19:03.07 | elricL | tty3, I am sorry. |
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| 19:03.10 | MatthewWilkes | yay |
| 19:03.14 | conner_bw | rejected too, oh wlel. |
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| 19:03.15 | jiri_ | Yaaaaay! |
| 19:03.15 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011! Mentoring organizations are announced: http://goo.gl/VcRUV. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
| 19:03.17 | MatthewWilkes | that is all |
| 19:03.18 | conner_bw | Always next yeat |
| 19:03.20 | conner_bw | (r) |
| 19:03.20 | eoc|happy | carols: indeed, thanks so much. |
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| 19:03.31 | lakshman | SRabbelier: thanks |
| 19:03.35 | gevaerts | hands out some chocolate, for those who get in to celebrate, and for those who didn't to console |
| 19:03.36 | conner_bw | Thanks for the great work GSoC, tough gig. |
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| 19:03.43 | SRabbelier | laknath_: np |
| 19:03.44 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) you beat me to it |
| 19:03.48 | tty3 | carols, thanks for your time this year, hopefully we will apply again nexct year and see you then |
| 19:03.49 | jiri_ | HelenOS is in :-D |
| 19:03.51 | elricL | tty I'll contribute over the summer :) |
| 19:03.54 | aghisla | more waffels! |
| 19:03.58 | gevaerts | carols: And for those who had to review it all, to recover :) |
| 19:04.01 | Mayank | announced! |
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| 19:04.06 | carols | tty3: of course. i would like that |
| 19:04.10 | PJRobins | tty3 condolences |
| 19:04.15 | carols | gevaerts: i can sleep later, right? :-) |
| 19:04.16 | tty3 | elricL, was that to me? |
| 19:04.17 | dotnick | carols: I can only imagine what's it like when accepted students are announced |
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| 19:04.24 | |Kev| | And to those orgs that didn't get in - please remember that you might be able to find umbrella orgs that're suitable still. |
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| 19:04.30 | elricL | tty3 : yeah |
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| 19:04.41 | carols | dotnick: not as bad since i didnt have to make any painful decisions for that |
| 19:04.50 | tty3 | carols, there were several students who said they would contribute if we got into gsoc or not.. hope that isnt an issue or against rules |
| 19:04.55 | wolfb | hmm I need to eat double amount of cocolate, both to celebrate and to console. - This is a weird feeling :S |
| 19:04.55 | dirakx | Hi all..Are there any reasons for rejected orgs ?. |
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| 19:05.05 | |Kev| | !meeting |
| 19:05.05 | socinfo | |Kev|: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:05.07 | |Kev| | dirakx: ^ |
| 19:05.08 | PJRobins | tty3: If i don't get accepted i'll see if I can help you guys this summer. |
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| 19:05.25 | carols | tty3: an issue to have students participate? i dont understand |
| 19:05.30 | conner_bw | !meeting |
| 19:05.30 | socinfo | conner_bw: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:05.31 | tty3 | PJRobins, and elricL your most welcome to.. #dANN is pretty active so feel free |
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| 19:05.42 | tty3 | carols, i mean for students to participate in orgs that arent accepted |
| 19:05.59 | dirakx | I'm from sugarlabs..have been accepted three years in a rol..I'm very sad. :( |
| 19:06.01 | |Kev| | tty3: You mean an issue for people to contribute to OSS of their own volition. I hope not. |
| 19:06.08 | carols | tty3: well, i would hope you'd like to have new contributors in your community regardless of participation in gsoc :-) |
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| 19:06.13 | PJRobins | tty3: definitely look into it. time to go take a midterm. |
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| 19:06.16 | dirakx | |Kev|: thanks for the info. |
| 19:06.20 | tareth | no ubuntu this year? :( |
| 19:06.22 | jhf | you're sad cause you've been accepted 3 yrs in a row? |
| 19:06.27 | shadeslayer | tareth: no :( |
| 19:06.34 | Bizon | and no pidgin! :( |
| 19:06.39 | tty3 | |Kev|, yea just wasnt sure if there were rules against it as it would prevent them from participating into gsoc id imagine |
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| 19:06.56 | tty3 | carols, oh we would, just wasnt sure if it was somehow against rules :) |
| 19:07.13 | carols | tty3: i dont have any rules about new contributors to your community :-) |
| 19:07.23 | fangam | Am I missing something here or did the big orgs like chromium and facebook not get slots |
| 19:07.36 | SRabbelier | races to be the first to complete the org profile |
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| 19:07.55 | borja | I'm in the middle of proctoring an exam... it's really hard to continue to put on a stern face after hearing the results |
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| 19:08.06 | SRabbelier | touchdown :D |
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| 19:08.14 | LetterRip | hi all - when can mentors begin signing up? |
| 19:08.16 | gevaerts | carols: so has there been a decision yet on Mountain View vs. Zürich? ;) |
| 19:08.18 | LetterRip | i don't see that on the time line |
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| 19:08.23 | SRabbelier | Damn those debians! :P |
| 19:08.32 | ArthurLiu | hihi |
| 19:08.34 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: as soon as the orgs have created their profile |
| 19:08.38 | tty3 | carols, good! well see you march 22nd i guess if youll be there :) |
| 19:08.39 | LetterRip | ok |
| 19:08.39 | carols | gevaerts: are you kdding? thinking about the mentor summit *now*? :-) |
| 19:08.41 | LetterRip | thanks |
| 19:08.48 | carols | tty3: be where? |
| 19:08.51 | anti_gsoc | hello |
| 19:08.54 | tty3 | carols, the rejection meeting |
| 19:09.07 | gevaerts | carols: you're not involved in selecting students! We have to keep you busy *somehow*! :) |
| 19:09.07 | carols | tty3: oh of course ill be there. im the gsoc program admin :-) |
| 19:09.08 | dirakx | I'll be in the rejection meeting. |
| 19:09.12 | dirakx | :S |
| 19:09.23 | anti_gsoc | i am contrary to GSOC |
| 19:09.27 | _Samo | is there a rejection meeting? |
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| 19:09.33 | schilly | !meeting |
| 19:09.33 | socinfo | schilly: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:09.38 | tty3 | carols, great, well look forward to talking then (im a bit curiour what happened naturally) :) |
| 19:09.46 | anti_gsoc | for the simple fact that is Google to promote this |
| 19:09.46 | carols | tty3: of course |
| 19:09.47 | pygi | schilly: are you cdrecord schilly? |
| 19:09.58 | schilly | pygi: no, i |
| 19:10.04 | anti_gsoc | and Google is not good |
| 19:10.12 | anti_gsoc | Google is bad |
| 19:10.14 | dirakx | ok I think we were lucky three years ;). |
| 19:10.25 | tty3 | carols, well thanks again for the effort this year :) see ya round ::makes the shape of a circle with his two index fingerS:: |
| 19:10.33 | carols | anti_gsoc: you are towing a very carful line. i will ban if i ned to |
| 19:10.39 | ihalip | !timeline |
| 19:10.39 | socinfo | ihalip: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 19:10.47 | ravenlock | carols: when might be a good time to ask why an org didn't make the cut? |
| 19:10.56 | carols | !meeting |
| 19:10.56 | socinfo | carols: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:10.56 | |Kev| | !meeting |
| 19:10.57 | socinfo | |Kev|: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 19:10.57 | |Kev| | ravenlock: ^ |
| 19:10.58 | Inc | go figure |
| 19:11.00 | carols | ravenlock: then |
| 19:11.05 | _Samo | one question, what is the rejection meeting about, I mean do we get advice to improve our application for the next time or what? |
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| 19:11.11 | carols | _Samo: yes |
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| 19:11.16 | akashm1990 | Why not link to the ideas page instead of the prganisation page in the list? |
| 19:11.18 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: where is the link for creating the profile - also 6 are done already |
| 19:11.27 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: I'm one of them! :P |
| 19:11.31 | ravenlock | carols: ty |
| 19:11.33 | anti_gsoc | http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P6-TA-2006-0324+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN watch the Resolution of European Parliamento f 2006 |
| 19:11.36 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: it is in the email you received |
| 19:11.41 | LetterRip | oh |
| 19:11.43 | LetterRip | thanks |
| 19:11.45 | anti_gsoc | to the points J & K |
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| 19:11.48 | MarkAtwood | is disappointed that his org was not accepted, but we look forward to finding out how to improve for next year |
| 19:11.49 | LetterRip | didn't check email - doh! |
| 19:11.53 | megansquire_ | are they going to give advice to us as a group or individualized advice? I can't imagine it done as a group, but it seems odd to have a meeting for it otherwise. |
| 19:12.03 | SRabbelier | megansquire: personalized |
| 19:12.03 | gevaerts | akashm1990: there's a link to the ideas page in the final list, after people fill in the full organisation profile |
| 19:12.04 | _Samo | carols: do you keep notes for every organisation or it is general advice? |
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| 19:12.17 | _Samo | *rejected organisation |
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| 19:12.21 | carols | _Samo: i have notes and i have general advice. i painfully reviewed every applications |
| 19:12.23 | anti_gsoc | again google is not a good company |
| 19:12.28 | _Samo | ok |
| 19:12.29 | homunq1 | dirakx: I'm really sorry to see Sugar isn't in there. |
| 19:12.35 | anti_gsoc | it is a bad company it was punished |
| 19:12.37 | SRabbelier | carols: for which you are awesome, and will receive much kudos :) |
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| 19:12.51 | tty3 | anti_gsoc, while i do appreicate your opinion and your right to it, i dont see how this is productive to talk about here |
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| 19:13.18 | homunq1 | I was with pyjamas this year, and we aren't in, but we already have a fit under the python umbrella so that's not so bad. |
| 19:13.19 | SRabbelier | tty3: I kicked them already, I think carols added a ban |
| 19:13.21 | dotnick | Congratulations to all accepted organizations |
| 19:13.26 | bahaa | noo, where's freedom of speech ? |
| 19:13.29 | bahaa | tsk |
| 19:13.30 | bahaa | :p |
| 19:13.31 | tty3 | SRabbelier, yea i see that now :) makes sense |
| 19:13.31 | piyushmishra | you guys rejected thinkup? :( |
| 19:13.33 | SRabbelier | bahaa: didn't you see, I just kicked it |
| 19:13.35 | piyushmishra | bad people |
| 19:13.37 | _Samo | A bit dissapointed but I guess this is how it works |
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| 19:13.54 | iamaregee | congrats to all the selected orgs... |
| 19:13.56 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: right now he's banned but he rejoined after you kicked |
| 19:13.59 | SRabbelier | _Samo: better luck next year, I'm sure carols's feedback on your application will help |
| 19:14.02 | akzfowl | congrats to all the selected orgs! |
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| 19:14.09 | akzfowl | is there a link? |
| 19:14.09 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: ah, didn't notice that |
| 19:14.11 | Trisk[phone] | thanks to carols for her hard work on this! |
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| 19:14.18 | carols | thanks Trisk[phone] :-) |
| 19:14.18 | jhf | _Samo: on the bright side, think of all the wonderful things you can work on because you don't have to mentor or organize anything :) |
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| 19:14.25 | tty3 | yea im disapointed here too, for an active and popular project a decade old i was really expecting to get in :( we also had about 5 - 10 students already very eager to join us which ithought would have beena good indicator :( |
| 19:14.26 | SRabbelier | is somewhat surprised at how quiet it is |
| 19:14.47 | SRabbelier | tty3: what org are you with? |
| 19:14.47 | _Samo | well there is always a bright side for sure |
| 19:14.53 | tty3 | SRabbelier, Syncleus |
| 19:15.11 | schilly | tty3: about the same here, you are not alone ;) |
| 19:15.12 | _Samo | I suspect it has to do with the fact that this year there are 50 new orgs |
| 19:15.24 | tty3 | SRabbelier, unless google rejects AI companies cause it is competition or something.. i guess thats possible |
| 19:15.31 | _Samo | in the accepted list |
| 19:15.32 | dirakx | homunq1: :( |
| 19:15.37 | homunq1 | carols, can you make nonspecific statements about selection criteria, or do those wait for !meeting too? For instance, did an org with a clear place under an accepted umbrella org have less chance with it's solo app? |
| 19:15.41 | tty3 | _Samo, we are applying to GSoC for the first time too, so id expect that would have helped us really |
| 19:15.42 | |Kev| | tty3: Conspiracy theories aren't becoming. |
| 19:15.56 | carols | homunq1: pleae wait for the meeting. i have about 400 things going on right now |
| 19:15.59 | SRabbelier | tty3: doubtful that that's the reason :) |
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| 19:16.14 | dirakx | we put all in our efforts :(. |
| 19:16.31 | homunq1 | carols: understood. |
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| 19:16.38 | tty3 | |Kev|, it isnt meant to be a consiperacy theory.. i figure if google used that as a reasont hey would be open about it (im not sure if they have comented on it int he apst but i know some of their charity work specifically restricts it to companies that dont compete with google) |
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| 19:16.48 | homunq1 | s/it's/its/ |
| 19:17.03 | gevaerts | tty3: you know facebook was a mentoring organisation last year, right? |
| 19:17.16 | conner_bw | I was rejected too. Life goes on. All the best. |
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| 19:17.20 | tty3 | |Kev| & SRabbelier not saying that is the case at all, just wasnt sure if that was a common reason for them to reject or not (As it is the onlyr eason off hand i could think of) |
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| 19:17.29 | conner_bw | WIll pop by the rejects meeting |
| 19:17.33 | tty3 | gevaerts, is facebook considered a competitor to google? |
| 19:17.34 | AmineKhaldi | !next |
| 19:17.34 | socinfo | AmineKhaldi: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 19:17.37 | jhf | "rejects meeting" |
| 19:17.37 | SRabbelier | tty3: keep in mind, there's fierce competition |
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| 19:17.47 | gevaerts | tty3: don't you read any online rumours? :) |
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| 19:18.12 | tty3 | SRabbelier, yea i understand 75% of applications are rejected, I dunno, everyone seemed to think we were a lock to get in.. everything considered im pretty suprised |
| 19:18.14 | SRabbelier | tty3: even if you had a good application, it could be there was an org in a similar area that was a little bit better |
| 19:18.22 | tty3 | gevaerts, i dont bother with rumors :) |
| 19:18.25 | conner_bw | Ok, see some of you on the 22nd. Cheers. |
| 19:18.31 | SRabbelier | tty3: why did they assume that? |
| 19:18.36 | tty3 | SRabbelier, yea thats possible :) |
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| 19:19.02 | CharlieM | "Multi-Touch games -> Create innovative multi-touch games like a warcraft-like real time strategy game for example, using MT4j " that's really expected in 3 months? :p |
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| 19:19.53 | tty3 | SRabbelier, well lots of reasons, 10 years of being activly developed, lots of big names using our software, lots of early student intrest, a well done ideas page, interesting innovated project, sponsorship from past GSoC projects, 5 very expiernced mentors (including mentors from other past GSoC projects that werent applying this year and instead were a part of ours) |
| 19:20.03 | carols | serves tea and cookies for everyone |
| 19:20.04 | tty3 | SRabbelier, stuff like that.. it seemed a lock to me really |
| 19:20.10 | _Samo | I'm a bit worried because I worked on our application a lot |
| 19:20.13 | _Samo | I mean a lot |
| 19:20.39 | SRabbelier | tty3: I'm sure the !meeting will explain things better |
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| 19:21.03 | tty3 | SRabbelier, im sure it will too, im not complaining.. just very suprised |
| 19:21.04 | CrawfordComeaux | woops! forgot my slash! sry |
| 19:21.32 | SRabbelier | CrawfordComeaux: / there you go |
| 19:21.32 | tty3 | SRabbelier, and a lot of disapointed students in our room to explain this too :( |
| 19:21.42 | tty3 | *to |
| 19:21.43 | solardiz | i assume the org profile can be edited after initial submission? all fields (e.g., even country change in mailing address)? |
| 19:21.45 | edsiper | tty3, what's your project ? |
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| 19:21.56 | tty3 | edsiper, Syncleus is the org, dANN is the project |
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| 19:22.10 | CrawfordComeaux | How many orgs applied this year? |
| 19:22.15 | borja | Neat, the "Gender" field in the profile form has "male", "female", and "other" |
| 19:22.15 | SRabbelier | solardiz: all except the link_id |
| 19:22.22 | SRabbelier | solardiz: pick that one with great care |
| 19:22.23 | homunq1 | Only orgs which have a lock, barring seriously bad application, are things like Python and Linux. Note that even Ruby is not in. |
| 19:22.26 | gevaerts | CrawfordComeaux: 430 |
| 19:22.30 | SRabbelier | borja: curtesy of carols |
| 19:22.39 | carols | gevaerts: we should change that, its actually 417. we had a few dupes |
| 19:22.48 | SRabbelier | !stats |
| 19:22.49 | socinfo | SRabbelier: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 19:22.50 | solardiz | SRabbelier: makes sense. thank you! |
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| 19:22.53 | borja | hi5s carols |
| 19:22.54 | SRabbelier | hmmm, no? |
| 19:22.56 | SRabbelier | !numbers |
| 19:23.03 | carols | hey borja, congrats |
| 19:23.04 | firc_ | :o chaos again? |
| 19:23.04 | SRabbelier | !students |
| 19:23.14 | tty3 | homunq1, apparently :( |
| 19:23.19 | SRabbelier | shrugs |
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| 19:23.27 | SRabbelier | can't remember what that one was that lists how many applications we had |
| 19:23.29 | firc_ | It's that time of year again :D |
| 19:23.32 | akashm1990 | has the number of students per organisation been decided? |
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| 19:23.35 | gevaerts | carols: oh. I'll try to remember that number... 430 was nice and round :) |
| 19:23.40 | carols | akashm1990: no |
| 19:23.41 | SRabbelier | akash6190: it's not fixed |
| 19:23.48 | carols | gevaerts: yeah, i know, it's confusing now |
| 19:23.57 | carols | we should change numapps |
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| 19:24.10 | SRabbelier | carols: ah, that's the one |
| 19:24.10 | solardiz | SRabbelier: so the slots number being requested initially is just a guesstimate, which can be adjusted by the org later? |
| 19:24.12 | SRabbelier | !numapps |
| 19:24.13 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "numapps" is 430 mentoring orgs applied this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 19:24.17 | SRabbelier | solardiz: yes |
| 19:24.26 | gevaerts | eats 13 cookies to make up the difference |
| 19:24.28 | borja | carols: Thanks! |
| 19:24.29 | SRabbelier | socinfo: it's not even looked at until a fair deal into the student application period |
| 19:24.47 | SRabbelier | !forget numapps |
| 19:24.47 | socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:25.02 | akashm1990 | and whats the total number of students being accepted this time? |
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| 19:25.10 | carols | akashm1990: we wont know until we know |
| 19:25.11 | SRabbelier | !learn numapps as 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 19:25.12 | socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:25.31 | SRabbelier | akash6190: probably a nice number, something prime :P |
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| 19:25.39 | homunq1 | carols, thanks for the tea. See you at the meeting. |
| 19:25.49 | nickbarnes | notificationemail to org apps has broken links. |
| 19:25.50 | akashm1990 | I thought it was a pre decided number.. |
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| 19:25.58 | carols | homunq1: you're welcome. |
| 19:26.11 | carols | akashm1990: nothing about GSoC is predecided until its decided :-) |
| 19:26.40 | SRabbelier | nickbarnes: please tell me more about this in #melange |
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| 19:26.44 | akashm1990 | carols: but, once its decided, its no longer predecided is it? |
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| 19:26.48 | CrawfordComeaux | Thanks to all you GSoC peeps for accepting FiberCorps! We're all incredibly excited & won't let you down! |
| 19:26.51 | gevaerts | akashm1990: one thing is known. It will be announced at 19:00 UTC :) |
| 19:26.54 | SRabbelier | akashm1990: it'd be postdecided? :P |
| 19:27.11 | ArthurLiu | I would also like to point out that the GSoC webapp didn't even melt! congrats melange! |
| 19:27.18 | homunq1 | akashm: my impression is that they have a pretty good idea, based on the budget; but that there are always a few edge cases which could move the number by a bit. |
| 19:27.22 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: isn't it awesome? |
| 19:27.27 | tty3 | gevaerts, lol i dont even think they hit the deadline everyyear either.. its been late many times from what i hear :) |
| 19:27.27 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: no duplicate emails either! |
| 19:27.30 | akashm1990 | SRabbelier: just decided would do I guess |
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| 19:27.50 | gevaerts | ArthurLiu: wait for the student deadline and announcement! |
| 19:27.56 | SRabbelier | tty3: we've been doing pretty well since we started using #melange |
| 19:28.05 | akashm1990 | ArthurLiu: Either my net connection or the webapp did go down for 4 min when the announcement was made |
| 19:28.10 | tty3 | SRabbelier, well it was spot on this year atleast :) |
| 19:28.20 | SRabbelier | akashm1990: it hasn't been done |
| 19:28.25 | ArthurLiu | worksforme(c) |
| 19:28.27 | SRabbelier | tty3: we try ;) |
| 19:28.30 | borja | Can we enter arbitrary tags for a project, or do they have to be from the list that pops up? |
| 19:28.32 | SRabbelier | s/done/down/ |
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| 19:28.38 | tty3 | SRabbelier, you work for google too then? |
| 19:28.39 | homunq1 | obviously, if they announced a number and then went under it, it would only be asking for whining from all the people who almost got in. |
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| 19:28.46 | LeoBH | !next |
| 19:28.47 | socinfo | LeoBH: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
| 19:28.51 | SRabbelier | borja: arbitrary, but reuse of existing tags is recommended |
| 19:29.21 | borja | SRabbelier: the tags I'm entering keep getting rejected. "grid computing is not a valid tag value. Please see help for more details." |
| 19:29.26 | SRabbelier | homunq1: how would they know they almost got in anyway? |
| 19:29.35 | SRabbelier | borja: no spaces allowed I think? |
| 19:29.43 | SRabbelier | borja: try with a dash or underscore :P |
| 19:29.51 | borja | SRabbelier: Ah, gotcha. The comma-separation made me assume that spaces are ok |
| 19:30.04 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: people who apply expect to be good, so if they don't get in, it follows that they *almost* got in :) |
| 19:30.10 | SRabbelier | borja: don't thank me till you checked dashes/underscores do work :P |
| 19:30.21 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: lol :P |
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| 19:31.43 | borja | SRabbelier: yeah, that was it; I used only alpha characters and it worked |
| 19:31.45 | tty3 | there is 0 chance an org will be accepted in after todays announcement right? |
| 19:31.56 | SRabbelier | borja: cool |
| 19:31.56 | akashm1990 | doesnt the fact that an org called "Code for america" is accepted make GSoC a little less global? |
| 19:32.02 | gevaerts | wishes there was a non-regexp way to easily search for "c" in the tags |
| 19:32.07 | SRabbelier | akashm1990: why? |
| 19:32.51 | akashm1990 | code for america -- unlikely they would accept people from outside america isnt it? |
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| 19:32.58 | solardiz | comma is not allowed in "street address" fields, weird |
| 19:33.02 | gevaerts | akashm1990: as long as there's no org in there that's based in Antarctica, the "global" thing is an illusion anyway |
| 19:33.05 | SRabbelier | akashm1990: why? |
| 19:33.22 | akashm1990 | SRabbelier: based on the name... |
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| 19:33.47 | SRabbelier | akashm1990: why? I can work on something that solves a problem the US has from anywhere |
| 19:33.47 | gevaerts | akashm1990: I'd say it's not a good idea to make that sort of assumptions based only on the name |
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| 19:34.13 | bobbens | lots of universities this year |
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| 19:34.50 | solardiz | "This URL is not a valid ATOM or RSS feed." - how is the check performed? doesn't accept a twitter rss feed... |
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| 19:35.17 | SRabbelier | solardiz: eh, it tries to fetch the feed |
| 19:35.23 | SRabbelier | socinfo: if it doesn't have a version attribute it fails |
| 19:35.30 | SRabbelier | solardiz: if it doesn't have a version attribute it fails |
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| 19:35.33 | yadudoc | borja, congrats on globus getting the 4th consecutive year :) |
| 19:35.40 | borja | yadudoc: thanks! |
| 19:35.44 | solardiz | SRabbelier: so the twitter field is not standards compliant? |
| 19:35.47 | borja | yadudoc: We're really excited about it |
| 19:35.50 | solardiz | s/field/feed/ |
| 19:36.09 | carols | pops out for lunch |
| 19:36.10 | SRabbelier | solardiz: what url are you using? |
| 19:36.12 | carols | be back soon folks |
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| 19:36.18 | |Kev| | carols: Enjoy. Have a rest now. |
| 19:36.19 | borja | waves to carols |
| 19:36.20 | solardiz | http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/158562632.rss |
| 19:36.20 | SRabbelier | carols: enjoy |
| 19:36.26 | SRabbelier | solardiz: also, try saving again, it might have timed out |
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| 19:36.38 | tty3 | carols, see ya, thanks again :) |
| 19:36.54 | yadudoc | borja, awesome ! I'm applying this year :) |
| 19:36.58 | mlankhorst | carols: well id say it, but a smile is enough ;p |
| 19:36.59 | SRabbelier | solardiz: it does seem to have a version field |
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| 19:38.23 | SRabbelier | stares at the logs |
| 19:38.26 | solardiz | SRabbelier: worked the second time i submitted the form. must have been some intermittent error. |
| 19:38.27 | SRabbelier | wow, we haven't had any errors at all |
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| 19:38.39 | borja | yadudoc: cool! |
| 19:38.42 | SRabbelier | solardiz: probably a timeout on appengine's side of things :P |
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| 19:40.50 | gsoccidar2011 | Hello! I arrived here from the GSoC mentor's manual. We were not accepted, and I was wondering if, as the manual mentions, any feedback was going to be offered here. |
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| 19:41.24 | ArthurLiu | gsoccidar2011, meeting! |
| 19:41.25 | akashm1990 | !meeting |
| 19:41.25 | socinfo | akashm1990: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
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| 19:41.54 | joshua__ | Is there any chance for an organization that was rejected to get retroactively accepted at the meeting? |
| 19:42.11 | ArthurLiu | joshua__, never happened AFAIK |
| 19:42.13 | SRabbelier | joshua__: no |
| 19:42.31 | gsoccidar2011 | I see, thank you for informing me. We were not aware of such a meeting. I will look for information about this meeting. |
| 19:43.01 | joshua__ | The only organization I |
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| 19:44.02 | schumaml | the "Gender: male/female/other" in the user profile forms is a nice touch :) |
| 19:44.21 | joshua__ | The only organization I'm aware of which was supporting the use of Clojure in projects is LispNYC, but they didn't get accepted. Are there any other organizations using that language? I had been really interested in working on Incanter ;( |
| 19:44.23 | SRabbelier | schumaml: thank carols for that touch :) |
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| 19:44.59 | carols | it's also optional purposefully :-) |
| 19:45.11 | schumaml | will this affect the shape of the shirts? |
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| 19:45.28 | carols | wow, tshirt questions already :-) |
| 19:45.30 | carols | early this year |
| 19:45.38 | carols | schumaml: you choose the style of shirt you want |
| 19:45.40 | wolfb | wonders what other looks like? Maybe a doggy-tee? |
| 19:45.59 | SRabbelier | whaps wolfb |
| 19:46.07 | solardiz | the "indemnity" sections in gsoc agreements are not great... google's own liability is limited to $1k (elsewhere in the agreements), but gsoc participants' is not. i wish this could be "corrected" next year. ;-) |
| 19:46.09 | dhaun | joshua__: shouldn't stop you from contributing to their project anyway |
| 19:46.37 | ArthurLiu | lawyers: out! |
| 19:46.49 | dotnick | carols: it's all about the tshirts :) |
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| 19:49.20 | LetterRip | is there a way to edit the application after you press submit? |
| 19:49.27 | apheage | huh, so many exciting projects... difficult choice |
| 19:49.28 | LetterRip | there are a few more tags i'd like to add |
| 19:49.28 | felipevieira | yes |
| 19:49.31 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: yes |
| 19:49.39 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: "Edit org profile" in the left hand nav |
| 19:49.45 | SRabbelier | really wants to get thew new UI out the door! |
| 19:49.59 | carols | SRabbelier: i'm right there with you |
| 19:50.09 | SRabbelier | carols: away with you, go lunch! :P |
| 19:50.13 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: errmm don't see it? |
| 19:50.18 | LetterRip | i might be blind though :) |
| 19:50.21 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: refresh |
| 19:50.42 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: it's in the "GSOc Organization" submenu |
| 19:50.47 | SRabbelier | (god this UI is horrid :P) |
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| 19:50.58 | LetterRip | ah doh |
| 19:51.01 | LetterRip | thanks |
| 19:51.06 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: track down the people who worked on it and tell them! |
| 19:51.16 | LetterRip | hmm that is only for 2010 |
| 19:51.18 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: I'll tell me |
| 19:51.20 | LetterRip | doesn't show 2011 yet |
| 19:51.42 | joshua__ | dhaun, yea, but the incentive structure isn't even close to being the same and the outcomes of working on the project out of interest versus being sponsored are also miles apart. It is sort of like saying, "I really want to go to MIT and learn computer science." Sure I could learn Computer Science on my own, but there are advantages that going to MIT brings which learning on your own doesn't. Resumes is one area and mentorships |
| 19:51.43 | joshua__ | is another. |
| 19:51.43 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: oh, probably because you need to fill out your org admin profile first |
| 19:51.52 | carols | SRabbelier: already ate :-) |
| 19:51.56 | SRabbelier | note to self: make sure that works better in the new UI |
| 19:51.57 | LetterRip | ok |
| 19:52.01 | SRabbelier | carols: whoah! you're fast |
| 19:52.26 | carols | SRabbelier: i hate to be in my line of work. |
| 19:52.32 | gevaerts | suspects that carols wasn't too hungry after those cookies and chocolate anyway :) |
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| 19:52.45 | carols | gevaerts: and tea and coffee as well :-) |
| 19:53.01 | SRabbelier | carols: you dedicated person you ;) |
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| 19:53.13 | carols | SRabbelier: yes, yes i am. i love my job |
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| 19:53.38 | |Kev| | Unfortunate s/have/hate/ typo earlier. |
| 19:53.54 | carols | yeah, oh well |
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| 19:54.07 | |Kev| | A Freudian slip is when you say one thing, but mean your mother. |
| 19:54.15 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: win |
| 19:54.16 | carols | |Kev|: indeed :-) |
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| 19:56.44 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: got it, thanks |
| 19:57.13 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: if you want, can you create a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue noting that we should make this easier? |
| 19:57.14 | akh1989 | wtf ftw o_O |
| 19:58.22 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: ok - key issue is that if you are not signed up as a mentor than the document you filled out doesn't appear |
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| 19:59.02 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: s/mentor/org admin/ and s/doesn't appear/is disabled because the org is not yet active/, but otherwise, yeah, that |
| 19:59.23 | ArthurLiu | Hi Obey Arthur Liu,\n You have been invited by Obey Arthur Liu to become a GSoC Organization Admin for Debian Project.\nPlease click here to fill in the necessary information and accept the invitation.\nGreetings, \nObey Arthur Liu |
| 19:59.29 | ArthurLiu | always cracks me up |
| 19:59.49 | David_Honeynet | evening all. Honeynet Project very excited to be accepted |
| 20:00.09 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: yep meant admin |
| 20:00.19 | David_Honeynet | many thanks to carols and the other google folks for the support and hard work reviewing all those applications! :) |
| 20:00.45 | carols | David_Honeynet: you're welcome. it's tough on me because there's so many orgs I want to accept. |
| 20:01.02 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: well that's a bug |
| 20:01.18 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: please file a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue for that |
| 20:01.25 | ArthurLiu | ok |
| 20:02.00 | wolfb | carols: pm? |
| 20:02.01 | ArthurLiu | is this message triggered by org acceptance or org details submission ? |
| 20:02.14 | carols | wolfb: of course |
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| 20:02.20 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: yes |
| 20:02.25 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: the former |
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| 20:02.52 | ArthurLiu | it arrived half an hour after both (and myself accepting said invitation) so I'm not sure |
| 20:04.12 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: something that would be a nicitiy - would be a way to 'autoinvite' all of last years mentors |
| 20:04.16 | gdamore | I'm pleased to be able to participate in GSoC again after a couple of year hiatus (this time as part of a brand-new org). Thanks Google! |
| 20:04.27 | LetterRip | for us lazy admins :) |
| 20:04.37 | mdc | gdamore: Welcome back! |
| 20:04.38 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: hmmm... not sure that's a good idea :P |
| 20:04.55 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: so all the list is added, but i can remove some |
| 20:05.09 | mdc | is excited and energized to be participating in our 6th GSoC this year :) |
| 20:05.13 | LetterRip | since i generally have no idea what the ids are of my mentors |
| 20:05.37 | bear | starts up weekly scheduled delivery of good will and hugs to carol for the summer |
| 20:05.38 | LetterRip | not a huge deal either way |
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| 20:06.04 | LetterRip | bear - heheh |
| 20:06.08 | ArthurLiu | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1116 |
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| 20:06.54 | ArthurLiu | LetterRip, we maintain a table of name-linkids mappings in our wiki |
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| 20:07.35 | David_Honeynet | LetterRip: yeah, we do the same thing too (mapping table) |
| 20:07.39 | Hexxeh | carols: The "Google Open Source Programs Office" reads like it is the appropriate choice for those wishing to work on Chrome, but are ChromeOS applications accepted too? |
| 20:07.51 | LetterRip | ArthurLiu - hmm but do you have someone as John Little, Johnathon L., Johnny L, Johnny Little, JL123, etc |
| 20:08.12 | ArthurLiu | auto-accept based on email address domain verification (eg.: @debian.org) would be nice |
| 20:08.15 | LetterRip | the name i know is not necessarily the name they use for filling out documentation |
| 20:08.15 | carols | Hexxeh: we're working it out. if you're interested please email me and i'll get you in contact with the admin heading it up |
| 20:08.23 | carols | (its not me) |
| 20:08.28 | Hexxeh | Will do, thanks :) |
| 20:08.29 | LetterRip | or at least not the same variant |
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| 20:08.44 | LetterRip | anywho just a suggestion |
| 20:09.03 | LetterRip | it isn't like it is a huge burden - but just a 'wouldn't it be nice' workflow sort of think |
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| 20:10.02 | akshayagarwal | @carols: Please update the link for Open MRS project Its wrongly given as openms.org instead of openmrs.org |
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| 20:10.13 | |Kev| | akshayagarwal: The org admin can change that. |
| 20:10.23 | |Kev| | In their org profile. |
| 20:10.30 | |Kev| | (At least, I believe that's where it's coming from) |
| 20:10.38 | gevaerts | We need more openTLA organisations! |
| 20:10.45 | bahaa | TLA ? |
| 20:10.50 | |Kev| | Three letter acronym. |
| 20:11.13 | bahaa | huh |
| 20:12.11 | gevaerts | bahaa: can you guess at ETLA? ;) |
| 20:12.35 | bahaa | estimated three letters acronym ? |
| 20:12.36 | bahaa | xD |
| 20:12.50 | gevaerts | extended, i.e. four letter :) |
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| 20:13.10 | mmadia | Thank you carols and co., for accepting Haiku this year! |
| 20:13.18 | carols | mmadia: you're welcome :-) |
| 20:13.34 | jrabbit | odd Plan9 got accepted into GSOC :P |
| 20:13.36 | bahaa | that should have been |
| 20:13.38 | bahaa | TLA++ |
| 20:13.48 | harlan | We're listed in the accepted org page but haven't gotten the official email yet. Is there any reason I should wait for that official email before I start posting that we've been accepted and begin talking to potential students? |
| 20:14.03 | SRabbelier | harlan: what's your org's link_id? |
| 20:14.03 | ArthurLiu | harlan, mails are backed up |
| 20:14.12 | harlan | NTP if I'm not mistaken |
| 20:14.19 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: they are? |
| 20:14.20 | harlan | I figured ArthurLiu. |
| 20:14.23 | solardiz | harlan: perhaps login to melange and see "Notifications" |
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| 20:14.34 | ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, well, I received my mails with 30 minutes+ lags |
| 20:14.37 | harlan | ah - that makes sense solardiz - thanks! |
| 20:14.41 | ArthurLiu | and I'm on Google Apps |
| 20:14.50 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: curious |
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| 20:15.34 | harlan | that did it - thanks a bunch! |
| 20:15.38 | ArthurLiu | oh, I take back what I said, there's a pop3 polling involved |
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| 20:17.32 | SRabbelier | harlan: did you have kostecke check his gmail? |
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| 20:18.12 | harlan | not yet - Steve is mega busy right now... I see the notification in melange, and I'll check my gmail too. |
| 20:18.38 | schumaml | if, for whatever reason, some orgs would withdraw, then others may be able to get more slots |
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| 20:18.51 | schumaml | hm... |
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| 20:19.17 | mee_ | !next |
| 20:19.18 | socinfo | mee_: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
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| 20:20.50 | nickon | !next |
| 20:20.50 | socinfo | nickon: "next" is Friday, March 18 19:00 UTC - Mentoring organizations are announced |
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| 20:23.36 | dhaun | !learn next as March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 20:23.36 | socinfo | dhaun: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:23.45 | dhaun | !forget next 1 |
| 20:23.45 | socinfo | dhaun: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:23.48 | dhaun | !next |
| 20:23.48 | socinfo | dhaun: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
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| 20:24.39 | tty3 | am i correct in my understanding that students can still do work for organizations not accepted into GSoC? We have several disapointed students who wanted to work for us and are insistent on doing it regardless but if they can still operate under GSoC id like that so they can get the benefits |
| 20:24.54 | |Kev| | Of course they can. |
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| 20:25.14 | |Kev| | On what basis could anyone object? :) |
| 20:25.30 | SRabbelier | tty3: not exactly as you described |
| 20:25.34 | borja | tty3: In previous years, I think the Google Open Source office has sent such students some swag, but not the official GSoC t-shirt |
| 20:25.43 | SRabbelier | tty3: they won't get a stipend, certificate, or official t-shirt |
| 20:25.50 | SRabbelier | tty3: but as borja they might still get some swag |
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| 20:25.58 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: Oh, you read it *that* way. |
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| 20:26.16 | tty3 | SRabbelier, oh well how is that different than just contributing to a org outside of GSoC? just a bit of swag? |
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| 20:26.20 | SRabbelier | tty3: and of course, any rejected organizations is not obligated to help students, so it's a bit more risky for the org |
| 20:26.20 | |Kev| | I thought tty3 was asking if a student working for another org for gsoc could do yet more work for a different project in their spare time. |
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| 20:26.38 | tty3 | SRabbelier, i coulda swore i read somewhere that students didnt need to work for approved orgs, maybe i misread then |
| 20:26.43 | |Kev| | 'spare time' - not that there's much of that. |
| 20:26.49 | tty3 | |Kev|, no not exactly what i was asking |
| 20:26.55 | SRabbelier | tty3: yes, there's a wildcard org |
| 20:26.56 | |Kev| | tty3: Right, I understand now. |
| 20:26.58 | SRabbelier | tty3: the "Google" one |
| 20:27.08 | tty3 | SRabbelier, so how does that work? |
| 20:27.13 | SRabbelier | tty3: but that's more for things that don't really fit with any org |
| 20:27.23 | SRabbelier | tty3: things that are bieng done at a UNI for example |
| 20:27.26 | solardiz | is the mentoring org's mailing address normally used for anything? should we expect to (eventually) receive any mail to that address (or only to people's addresses)? |
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| 20:27.43 | zee | tty3: i am an aspiring student.., may I know your Project. |
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| 20:28.04 | gsoccidar2011 | SRabbelier: So things being done at a University don't fit well with the GSoC? |
| 20:28.10 | tty3 | zee, we were not accepted, but it is dANN (#dANN on here), the org is Syncleus.the ideas page we were using was http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/dANN:Roadmap |
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| 20:28.17 | SRabbelier | gsoccidar2011: not exactly that |
| 20:28.18 | |Kev| | gsoccidar2011: If you check the list, there are several University orgs. |
| 20:28.28 | tty3 | SRabbelier, so it wouldnt apply to things that are for a rejected org? |
| 20:28.44 | |Kev| | tty3: I'm sorry to have misunderstood the question earlier. |
| 20:28.47 | SRabbelier | gsoccidar2011: but say you're working on a research project, but not at a university that is a opensource project, you might ask a professor to mentor your project |
| 20:28.55 | SRabbelier | gsoccidar2011: I think it's pretty well explained in the FAQ |
| 20:29.06 | SRabbelier | tty3: no, that's not the intended audience |
| 20:29.21 | tty3 | SRabbelier, ok ill explain that to the students who were curious about it |
| 20:29.46 | SRabbelier | tty3: *nod*, perhaps you can find an umbrella org that is willing to take your organization |
| 20:29.58 | gsoccidar2011 | We are a university and we are working on a research project involving construction of software. Can students still work with us, even though we were rejected? |
| 20:30.23 | SRabbelier | !faq |
| 20:30.23 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
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| 20:30.36 | tty3 | SRabbelier, it seems all the orgs that were sponsoring us didnt get accepted either (which is odd as they have been a part of GSoC in past years) |
| 20:30.59 | tty3 | SRabbelier, in fact im not sure i see a single AI org on the list, atleast none that i recognize |
| 20:31.02 | SRabbelier | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#no_org |
| 20:31.17 | ArthurLiu | tty3, not to pile up on you, but you should have made clear to your students the odds of the organization getting accepted |
| 20:31.33 | SRabbelier | tty3: I think it's time to drop the subject around now and pick it up during the !meeting |
| 20:32.08 | tty3 | ArthurLiu, i made no illuswion what hte odds of us getting accepted were as i had no idea myself.. im just trying to answer their questions in my own room and when i dont have an answer just trying to come here to help pass along the info |
| 20:32.25 | tty3 | SRabbelier, im sorry, didnt mean anything by it.. just trying to answer allt he students questions, which i dont have all the answers to |
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| 20:32.48 | SRabbelier | tty3: that's fine, but enough with the observations about "my org didn't get accepted" |
| 20:33.13 | tty3 | SRabbelier, im sorry, didnt know it was a bother. |
| 20:33.24 | SRabbelier | tty3: that's why I told you :) |
| 20:33.32 | tty3 | SRabbelier, :) well no worries, will do |
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| 20:40.33 | David_Honeynet | is the "slots desired" field in the accepted org creation form editable still after the initial submission? |
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| 20:40.55 | |Kev| | Yes. |
| 20:41.09 | David_Honeynet | |Kev|: thanks. just checking :) |
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| 20:43.46 | Talad | Hi |
| 20:44.00 | jhf | is it ever the case that an org backs out from the program, so another is selected from the rejected pool? |
| 20:44.08 | Talad | If possible I will need help from an admin to sort out my organization application |
| 20:44.28 | |Kev| | Talad: If it's a Melange problem, I think you want #melange. |
| 20:44.29 | SRabbelier | jhf: I don't think that's happened before |
| 20:44.35 | |Kev| | (I *think*) |
| 20:44.37 | Talad | it has been approved, but when I click on the link it says: "This entity does not belong to you. " |
| 20:44.47 | Talad | yes it is |
| 20:44.47 | Talad | thanks |
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| 20:46.09 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: for future reference, that is indeed the correct channel |
| 20:46.23 | |Kev| | Great, thanks. |
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| 20:57.59 | carols | got quiet again :-) |
| 20:58.02 | carols | guess the storm is over |
| 20:58.12 | rrix | makes noise |
| 20:58.20 | carols | thanks rrix :-) |
| 20:58.31 | dotnick | cookies or chocolate anyone? :) |
| 20:58.33 | rrix | hehehe |
| 20:58.35 | Ophiuchi | puts some cookies into the channel |
| 20:58.36 | |Kev| | carols: You should be careful asking for noise when there are drummers in the channel :) |
| 20:58.44 | umccullough_w | carols, just curious, if the budget this year the same as last? |
| 20:58.45 | carols | hehe good point |Kev| |
| 20:58.48 | umccullough_w | *is |
| 20:58.50 | rrix | is too busy laying scaffolding and infrastructure to make noise ;) |
| 20:58.54 | carols | umccullough_w: no, it's been raised. |
| 20:58.58 | umccullough_w | oh nice |
| 20:59.01 | |Kev| | rrix: That sounds noisy enough on its own. |
| 20:59.05 | umccullough_w | so > 1000 students this year maybe? |
| 20:59.08 | rrix | hammersaw |
| 20:59.11 | carols | umccullough_w: who knows :-) |
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| 20:59.18 | gevaerts | umccullough_w: we had more than 1000 students last year! |
| 20:59.46 | umccullough_w | gevaerts, yeah, but with payments to the organizations and 89% success, it had to be pretty tight |
| 21:00.00 | umccullough_w | if you do the math ;) |
| 21:00.04 | boucman | carols: do you have a minute for a GCI related question |
| 21:00.11 | carols | boucman: sure, pm me please |
| 21:00.25 | gevaerts | umccullough_w: I don't know the budget, so I can't really do the maths :) |
| 21:00.34 | umccullough_w | it was $5M per the stats |
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| 21:00.50 | umccullough_w | each organization gets $500 per student (whether pass/fail) |
| 21:00.53 | boucman | carols: it's pretty simple : I received two GCI t-shirt this week, which seems odd, is it normal ? if not i'll PM you so we can see what needs to be done... |
| 21:01.14 | carols | boucman: no, not normal. just keep it |
| 21:01.15 | gevaerts | boucman: two is *even* :) |
| 21:01.20 | schumaml | give one to a friend? |
| 21:01.26 | boucman | gevaerts: :P |
| 21:01.29 | carols | ha! i see what you did there gevaerts :-)] |
| 21:01.32 | boucman | carols: ok, thx :) |
| 21:01.37 | aghisla | pours tea |
| 21:01.43 | carols | thanks aghisla |
| 21:01.59 | carols | sips some tea and sits on the open source couch |
| 21:02.00 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: nice one man |
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| 21:02.10 | aghisla | carols: :) |
| 21:02.12 | gevaerts | umccullough_w: Well yes, but the success rate is always somewhere around 90%, and I have no idea how flexible the budget is, nor do I need to know :) |
| 21:02.35 | umccullough_w | gevaerts, per the stats, it's usually around 80%, but was 89% last year |
| 21:02.40 | gevaerts | also gets some tea and a spot on the open source couch |
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| 21:03.02 | umccullough_w | gevaerts, 1000 students is about the upper limit for $5M budget, so that's all i was curious about |
| 21:03.04 | SRabbelier | totally just fixed something by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0 |
| 21:03.09 | gevaerts | assumes that the open source couch is similar to Hilbert's Hotel |
| 21:03.20 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: it's even better |
| 21:03.28 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: considering it's open source and what not |
| 21:03.37 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: you can make your own open source couch with it ! :P |
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| 21:03.50 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: Does that mean everyone is able to scratch their itch with it? |
| 21:03.51 | Ophiuchi | it gets better the more people sit on it? :) |
| 21:03.53 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: Hilbert's Hotel wasn't proprietary either as far as I can figure out :) |
| 21:04.12 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: surely |
| 21:04.32 | dotnick | carols: did the design specifications come with the couch? |
| 21:04.39 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: It suddenly sounds less appealing :) |
| 21:04.39 | SRabbelier | checks out the default branch on Melange again, as it seems nothing did actually blow up |
| 21:04.53 | carols | dotnick: yes! that's the best part :-) |
| 21:04.54 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: lol |
| 21:05.16 | Ophiuchi | carols: that makes redecorating real easy :-P |
| 21:05.21 | gevaerts | carols: where can I download them? :) |
| 21:05.31 | carols | !couch |
| 21:05.31 | socinfo | carols: "couch" is An open source couch on which to chill. |
| 21:05.37 | carols | you just need a bot in your own channel |
| 21:05.47 | carols | then you have a couch you can add to the bot :-) |
| 21:06.04 | gevaerts | claims that the open source couch is just as virtual as Hilbert's Hotel :) |
| 21:06.20 | carols | exactly! |
| 21:06.39 | gevaerts | Let's have some more chocolate! |
| 21:07.12 | aghisla | finds data in the couch |
| 21:07.16 | aghisla | it's a CouchDB |
| 21:07.32 | carols | everyone's doing the puns today :-P |
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| 21:07.35 | aghisla | they are more... crumbs of cookies, that data |
| 21:07.47 | aghisla | *than |
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| 21:07.56 | carols | chuckles |
| 21:08.03 | Jessica_lily | Hey |
| 21:08.23 | carols | hi Jessica_lily |
| 21:08.34 | |Kev| | I have a bad feeling that down this path lie both madness and binary maths jokes. |
| 21:08.35 | carols | welcome to #gsoc, where we have cookies |
| 21:08.37 | gevaerts | aghisla: cookis are often used to track data! |
| 21:08.38 | |Kev| | Which is probably a tautology. |
| 21:08.40 | Jessica_lily | :O cookies :D |
| 21:08.43 | aghisla | gevaerts: clever |
| 21:08.49 | mmadia | !stats |
| 21:08.50 | socinfo | mmadia: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 21:08.54 | mmadia | !numapps |
| 21:08.55 | socinfo | mmadia: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
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| 21:09.24 | gevaerts | had to say "yes" today to someone who tried to make a speculative joke about the origins of the "debian" name... |
| 21:09.26 | Jessica_lily | right folks I wanna try this google summer of code malarky but like I'm really worried I'm not good enough |
| 21:09.51 | Ophiuchi | gevaerts: Debbie and Ian? |
| 21:09.51 | |Kev| | You are. |
| 21:09.52 | |Kev| | Next! |
| 21:10.02 | dberkholz | carols: thanks for the opportunity again for gentoo and x.org! we're really looking forward to it |
| 21:10.03 | |Kev| | Anyone got that link to hand? |
| 21:10.03 | Jessica_lily | |Kev|: wow, awesome |
| 21:10.04 | Jessica_lily | xD |
| 21:10.04 | carols | Jessica_lily: you'll want to check out the student manual. http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 21:10.10 | |Kev| | Thanks carols, that's what I meant. |
| 21:10.13 | carols | dberkholz: you're welcome. :-) |
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| 21:10.24 | Jessica_lily | o wow well the title looks awesome |
| 21:10.31 | dberkholz | now i need to get back to work ... bbl |
| 21:10.32 | lupo49_ | hoi |
| 21:10.38 | gevaerts | Ophiuchi: he suggested "developed first by a husband and wife team, his name being Ian and hers was Deborah". Of course we all know it was Debra, and they were only married a few years later :) |
| 21:10.59 | Ophiuchi | Jessica_lily: the skills needed for the various projects differ a lot. I'm sure there's at least one out there you'd be a star in :) |
| 21:11.04 | gevaerts | But still, for an attempt at a joke, that was quite close :) |
| 21:11.06 | SRabbelier | is once again amazed at how awesome the student manual is |
| 21:11.19 | |Kev| | gevaerts: I sometimes refer to my brother and my sister-in-law by contracting their names together. It doesn't make them happy :) |
| 21:11.29 | carols | aw thanks SRabbelier we worked hard on it before the mentor summit last year :-) |
| 21:11.51 | SRabbelier | carols: you guys did a great job ^^ |
| 21:12.04 | carols | SRabbelier: aw thanks. you should tell duke and co. that too :-) |
| 21:12.10 | Jessica_lily | carols: ok I'm not sure if im university level |
| 21:12.13 | Ophiuchi | gevaerts: I met them ~1992 I think |
| 21:12.19 | gevaerts | Jessica_lily: in general I'd say that "people skills" are more important than coding skills. Being an exceptional coder is useless if you can't talk to a development community |
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| 21:12.23 | SRabbelier | carols: speaking of duke, where's he? |
| 21:12.29 | carols | SRabbelier: seriously |
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| 21:12.36 | SRabbelier | carols: we need some trolling |
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| 21:12.51 | carols | SRabbelier: i've had enough of that for one day. but i would like to see duke |
| 21:13.05 | SRabbelier | carols: to the twittersphere! |
| 21:13.15 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: he gave an entire session on that to teach *you* to do it if he isn't there! |
| 21:13.20 | carols | hops in the twittersphere-mobile |
| 21:13.48 | Jessica_lily | ok |
| 21:13.52 | Jessica_lily | hmm i might take a look |
| 21:13.56 | SRabbelier | carols: vrmmmm |
| 21:14.02 | SRabbelier | or perhaps vrrrrrm? |
| 21:14.09 | Dark_Shikari | Did you say twittersphere? |
| 21:14.10 | Dark_Shikari | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2HAroA12w |
| 21:14.12 | SRabbelier | is not very good at those |
| 21:14.24 | Dark_Shikari | Into the twitterspheeeeeeere |
| 21:14.30 | SRabbelier | dariusH: lol :P |
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| 21:16.36 | Jessica_lily | i think it would cool doing this CERN stuff |
| 21:16.55 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: you should go talk to the CERN guys then |
| 21:17.02 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: you get bonus points for contacting the orgs early ;) |
| 21:17.12 | Jessica_lily | what do i say |
| 21:17.14 | hartem | I am the CERN guy |
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| 21:17.19 | SRabbelier | (disclaimer: bonus points have no actual value) |
| 21:17.20 | |Kev| | Jessica_lily: Hi, I'm interested. |
| 21:17.22 | hartem | so go ahead ;-) |
| 21:17.25 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: "hi, I'm Jessica, I'm interested" |
| 21:17.30 | Jessica_lily | :P haha awesome :P |
| 21:17.36 | SRabbelier | well what d'ya know |
| 21:17.40 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: I think you're done :P |
| 21:17.44 | Jessica_lily | urm python :P |
| 21:17.47 | SRabbelier | message relay success! :P |
| 21:17.48 | Jessica_lily | html |
| 21:17.48 | Jessica_lily | css |
| 21:17.50 | Jessica_lily | bash |
| 21:17.57 | carols | Jessica_lily: the not-so-secret way to get into GSoC is to express interest in the community and the project early and get involved with them. they want to see you're interested and excited. |
| 21:18.16 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: I think harlan can tell you what the hang out channel is for CERN, yes? |
| 21:18.26 | Jessica_lily | o good plan ! |
| 21:18.31 | gevaerts | Don't drool though. There are limits to the levels of excitement us mentors want to see :) |
| 21:18.35 | |Kev| | Some orgs (I expect many) use this as an initial barrier to entry, and pretty much discard applications from anyone that hasn't bothered to get in contact. |
| 21:18.54 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Drooling's fine as long as the student doesn't tell me they're doing it, IMO. |
| 21:19.13 | gevaerts | |Kev|: if i can't see it, it's not there :) |
| 21:19.23 | Jessica_lily | gevaerts: haha, awhh no fair |
| 21:19.34 | steev | !url |
| 21:19.46 | Dark_Shikari | My general rule would be: |
| 21:19.56 | SRabbelier | steev: what are you looking for? |
| 21:20.02 | Dark_Shikari | 1) If you haven't been on IRC before the application due date even though our info page tells you to be, you're not getting in. |
| 21:20.06 | hartem | Unfortunately IRC is restricted at CERN :( |
| 21:20.16 | steev | SRabbelier: google found it for me |
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| 21:20.26 | SRabbelier | steev: awesome company, that |
| 21:20.28 | Dark_Shikari | 2) If you've done cool work for us before the application due date, such as a qualification task, you're almost surely getting in. |
| 21:20.38 | hartem | so anyone intersted should rather mail us or use jabber (hartem@gmail.com) |
| 21:20.40 | steev | SRabbelier: i dunno, i turned them down for employment :P |
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| 21:20.51 | Jessica_lily | JABBER ! |
| 21:20.53 | |Kev| | hartem: Good (wo?)man! |
| 21:20.54 | Jessica_lily | i'll do that :P |
| 21:20.54 | borja | waves to hartem |
| 21:20.59 | SRabbelier | steev: shame ;) |
| 21:20.59 | borja | hartem: congrats! |
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| 21:21.05 | Jessica_lily | gmail chatty thingy is jabber isn't it |
| 21:21.08 | hartem | thanks Borja ! |
| 21:21.13 | |Kev| | Jessica_lily: Of course, if you like Jabber, you could always apply to do a Jabber project ;) |
| 21:21.19 | hartem | I think that your support was essential for us :-) |
| 21:21.21 | |Kev| | Jessica_lily: Yes, it is. Or XMPP more specifically. |
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| 21:21.38 | steev | SRabbelier: sadly i had just accepted an offer when google expressed interest :/ |
| 21:21.48 | aghisla | folks, see you later! |
| 21:21.51 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: nice plug |
| 21:21.55 | |Kev| | aghisla: bibi. |
| 21:21.57 | carols | waves to aghisla |
| 21:21.57 | gevaerts | |Kev|: what's XMPP? |
| 21:22.02 | SRabbelier | steev: such is life sometimes, yes? |
| 21:22.04 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: Thanks. I thought it was subtle, wasn't it? |
| 21:22.11 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Well, I know this great book... |
| 21:22.19 | borja | hartem: more than happy to help out :-) |
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| 21:22.32 | borja | hartem: Are you going to be the org admin? |
| 21:22.44 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: well executed I think :) |
| 21:22.49 | X-tonic | does cern vm have a irc chat? |
| 21:22.51 | hartem | borja: yes |
| 21:22.56 | borja | hartem: cool |
| 21:23.03 | harlan | Jessica_lily: I have no idea about CERN, sorry... |
| 21:23.05 | SRabbelier | harlan: btw, why is the cern irc restricted? |
| 21:23.12 | borja | hartem: well, if you have any questions about the whole process, don't hesitate to drop me a line |
| 21:23.14 | steev | *whew* |
| 21:23.17 | Jessica_lily | o did i tab to far |
| 21:23.22 | SRabbelier | harlan: or, better yet, why do you not have a public channel? |
| 21:23.29 | hartem | borja: I am sure I will :), thanks! |
| 21:23.31 | steev | i read through the first list and didn't see Gentoo and got scared for a second |
| 21:23.33 | Jessica_lily | SRabbelier: i think we tabbed to far xD |
| 21:23.38 | harlan | SRabbelier: ntp does have public channels. I have nothing to do with CERN. |
| 21:23.45 | steev | then saw the little note that those were the ones who had completed a profile :) |
| 21:23.46 | Jessica_lily | its hartem we want |
| 21:23.49 | harlan | :) |
| 21:23.53 | gevaerts | harlan: but you *do* know the time, right? :) |
| 21:24.06 | SRabbelier | harlan: sorry for the tab completion fail indeed |
| 21:24.08 | harlan | mostly, gevaerts - mostly. |
| 21:24.10 | SRabbelier | Jessica_lily: indeed! |
| 21:24.11 | harlan | no worries |
| 21:24.18 | SRabbelier | hartem: sorry about that, see :P |
| 21:24.21 | SRabbelier | **see above |
| 21:24.29 | hartem | SRabbelier: no problem |
| 21:24.33 | SRabbelier | feels silly now |
| 21:25.02 | Jessica_lily | hartem: dw its me who's trying to impress cern guys, so far going awfully :P |
| 21:25.39 | gevaerts | isn't sure who is with ntp and who is with cern now! |
| 21:25.48 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Well, I'm with... |
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| 21:25.55 | gevaerts | |Kev|: yes? |
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| 21:26.17 | |Kev| | nevermind. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was plugging the org or anything. |
| 21:26.23 | Jessica_lily | right i believe i added you hartem |
| 21:26.24 | |Kev| | *evilgrin* |
| 21:26.38 | hartem | Jessica_lily: which project are you interested in? |
| 21:26.49 | lh | sits back, sips tea, watches the world fly by |
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| 21:27.02 | lh | carols: have i mentioned today that you are awesome? |
| 21:27.13 | borja | waves to lh |
| 21:27.32 | SRabbelier | hugpounces lh |
| 21:27.35 | ben_endpoint | Is this an okay place to be asking for specific advice on the Organization link ID and Short Name? |
| 21:27.36 | gevaerts | doesn't trust flying worlds :) |
| 21:27.44 | SRabbelier | lh: hi |
| 21:27.46 | Nightrose | waves @ lh |
| 21:27.59 | carols | aw thanks lh *blush* |
| 21:28.04 | lh | SRabbelier: hello my friend |
| 21:28.16 | carols | hugs lh |
| 21:28.16 | lh | borja: and too thee |
| 21:28.16 | Nightrose | ben_endpoint: ask away :) |
| 21:28.16 | SRabbelier | ben_endpoint: sure, although #melange would work too |
| 21:28.16 | lh | Nightrose: hello my dear! |
| 21:28.16 | lh | carols: awwww! |
| 21:28.19 | Dark_Shikari | I'd like to add to these sentiments. |
| 21:28.21 | Dark_Shikari | carols: You're awesome. |
| 21:28.29 | steev | ooh lh is hanging out here |
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| 21:28.33 | ben_endpoint | Would the link be better as "lg" or "liquidgalaxy"? -- Of course the latter is more descriptive. And what about a short name? |
| 21:28.49 | lh | returns hug, offers carols spot on the free couch with a nice soft blankie, beverage of choice and some fine chocolates |
| 21:29.10 | lh | steev: hello! i hang out here lots. i am just quite most of the time. i know, who knew it was possible? me, quiet?!?!! |
| 21:29.23 | Ophiuchi | allright. I do need a hot chocolate now. bbl |
| 21:29.28 | steev | hah |
| 21:29.47 | sonne_ | Does anyone have application template examples? |
| 21:30.34 | lh | sonne_: for a particular org or are you hoping for help to build one? |
| 21:30.47 | harlan | lh - portland? Margaret and I will likely be in Eugene most of next week. |
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| 21:31.05 | lh | sonne_: if the latter, OSUOSL's is at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2011/osuosl |
| 21:31.12 | sonne_ | lh, well it looks like I have to provide (a new?) one in melange |
| 21:31.21 | lh | sonne_: ^^ |
| 21:31.23 | harlan | is writing another one too... |
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| 21:31.28 | borja | sonne_: And ours is here: http://dev.globus.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2011_FAQ |
| 21:31.36 | SRabbelier | Well, that was unusual |
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| 21:31.50 | lh | harlan: i am in portland on monday and friday afternoon, traveling the rest of the week. are you and margaret heading to portland? |
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| 21:32.35 | harlan | lh: not yet, but we'd let you know. Coming up from the Medford area for a seminar in Eugene. |
| 21:32.53 | lh | harlan: it would be great to see you if its possible |
| 21:33.03 | harlan | +1 |
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| 21:35.19 | lh | SRabbelier, carols: dukeleto is on a plane heading back from new york |
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| 21:35.30 | steev | j/win 13 |
| 21:35.32 | jasebo | sonne_ you can see our application template here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2011/limesurvey |
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| 21:35.39 | SRabbelier | lh: awr :( |
| 21:35.46 | sonne_ | jacob, thx |
| 21:35.51 | lh | SRabbelier: he will be back home tonight |
| 21:36.39 | SRabbelier | lh: ah :) |
| 21:37.17 | lh | wanders off to find power for laptop, prep for next meeting. |
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| 21:40.19 | ciferkey | hello everyone, I've found the wording of the faq to be a bit confusing |
| 21:40.37 | ciferkey | if im a high school senior who is 18, has a applied and selected a college |
| 21:40.43 | HerraBRE | Congrats orgs that got accepted. :-) We will try again next time. :-) |
| 21:40.53 | ciferkey | but won't be attending until the next fall semester am i still eligible? |
| 21:41.12 | SRabbelier | mutters |
| 21:41.14 | SRabbelier | we need a flow chart |
| 21:41.47 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: http://xkcd.com/518/ has one |
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| 21:42.27 | gevaerts | ciferkey: I *think* so, but I'm no rule-master either |
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| 21:43.42 | ciferkey | ok thank you |
| 21:43.55 | ciferkey | i understand that this must be frustrating to be asked about this (as i suppose sever times) |
| 21:44.12 | ArthurLiu | wasn't the rule about enrollement at the time of the beginning of the program? |
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| 21:44.23 | ArthurLiu | then in ciferkey, "enrollement" would only start in the fall |
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| 21:44.32 | ArthurLiu | s/in/for/ |
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| 21:45.03 | SRabbelier | goes to work to design one |
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| 21:45.48 | ArthurLiu | another data point is that you'd be eligible to the GCI (except on the age requirement) |
| 21:46.03 | gevaerts | ArthurLiu: "an individual enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution" |
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| 21:46.38 | ArthurLiu | ah, then looks like it's fine |
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| 21:47.08 | ciferkey | i had found this thread |
| 21:47.09 | ciferkey | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/9295398ca91a8b9f/4aaffccba3714723?lnk=gst&q=high+school#4aaffccba3714723 |
| 21:47.13 | |Kev| | Evil autoaway nickchanges! |
| 21:47.24 | harlan | ciferkey: what sort of project are you looking for? |
| 21:48.58 | gevaerts | finds it interesting that groups.google.com decides to hide the two mails that were actually authoritative in that thread :) |
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| 21:50.13 | NickMizoguchi | Hi, anyone anyone here is from Komodo OpenLab? :D |
| 21:50.16 | adi_ | hello dudes |
| 21:50.19 | |Kev| | !anyone |
| 21:50.19 | socinfo | |Kev|: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 21:50.23 | adi_ | yep me! |
| 21:50.36 | adi_ | komodo |
| 21:51.12 | NickMizoguchi | Thanks for the help socinfo :) |
| 21:53.04 | ciferkey | harlan: i just noticed you |
| 21:53.14 | harlan | :) |
| 21:53.35 | ciferkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.55 | ciferkey | im in talks with them and they had recommended I check to see if im eligible |
| 21:54.01 | harlan | there should be contact info on their org template. |
| 21:54.22 | Ophiuchi | how often has it already been pointed out that the congrats mail says to update the GSoC 2010 site? :) |
| 21:54.38 | gevaerts | Ophiuchi: not yet I think |
| 21:54.44 | carols | Ophiuchi: something to mention to SRabbelier :-) |
| 21:54.52 | NickMizoguchi | adi_ talk with me (pm) please :D |
| 21:55.06 | SRabbelier | carols: pfff, you supplied the template for that email! :P |
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| 21:55.20 | carols | SRabbelier: oh well :-) |
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| 21:55.35 | SRabbelier | grins |
| 21:55.38 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Now I'm home - thanks :D Looking forward to working with you again this year |
| 21:55.40 | gevaerts | ciferkey: if you want official confirmation, ask carols |
| 21:55.45 | SRabbelier | carols: hopefully by next year it'll be an editable document |
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| 21:55.54 | Ophiuchi | <- spellchecker on feet |
| 21:56.52 | gevaerts | Ophiuchi: was "2010" spelled correctly? :) |
| 21:56.55 | carols | SRabbelier: hopefully a lot of things will be different next year :-) |
| 21:57.07 | SRabbelier | GAH! Why is there no easy way to make a GDocs Drawing larger? So much for that flow chart >_> |
| 21:57.08 | carols | MatthewWilkes: same to you! can i have whiskey for the mentor summit this year? :-) |
| 21:57.08 | SRabbelier | carols: indeed |
| 21:57.30 | gevaerts | carols: chocolate not good enough? :( |
| 21:57.39 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Absolutely not. |
| 21:57.43 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: _in addition to_, of course |
| 21:57.43 | MatthewWilkes | carols: You can have whisky |
| 21:57.46 | carols | gevaerts: i was hoping i'd get chocolate from you, whiskey from MatthewWilkes and then i'd be set :-) |
| 21:57.48 | Ophiuchi | gevaerts: too much correction reading. I can't stop. Halp! |
| 21:57.55 | MatthewWilkes | whiskey is irish, whisky is scottish |
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| 21:58.00 | gevaerts | carols: ah, ok. That's better :) |
| 21:58.08 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: PrintScreen, and enlarge the bitmap :D |
| 21:58.19 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: I want more area to draw on |
| 21:58.21 | gevaerts | will have to battle other candidate summit-goers of course |
| 21:58.23 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: not make the image bigger |
| 21:58.26 | |Kev| | Ah. |
| 21:58.39 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Well, assuming kevin7kal brings me along, of course ;) |
| 21:58.41 | |Kev| | I'm sorry, you used up your great idea quota for this evening. |
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| 21:58.43 | |Kev| | Try again tomorrow. |
| 21:58.44 | MatthewWilkes | will tell him to |
| 21:59.04 | carols | MatthewWilkes: does the battle for who goes to the mentor summit start now for plone? :-) |
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| 21:59.32 | Ophiuchi | doesn't the admin get to decide if there is contention? :) |
| 22:00.37 | gevaerts | starts bribing org admins |
| 22:00.48 | stpere | lol gevaerts |
| 22:01.05 | gevaerts | I want to be there in Zürich! :) |
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| 22:02.44 | Ophiuchi | !numstats |
| 22:03.12 | mmadia | !numapps |
| 22:03.12 | socinfo | mmadia: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 22:03.28 | Ophiuchi | mmadia: thanks :) |
| 22:03.38 | mmadia | sure thing :) |
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| 22:05.40 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Well, our conference is in SF at the end of october, so for once everyone will be available |
| 22:05.48 | MatthewWilkes | OH |
| 22:06.06 | MatthewWilkes | Are we doing zürich? |
| 22:06.33 | gevaerts | We *might* be |
| 22:06.42 | hartem | MatthewWilkes: Waht's going on in Zurich? |
| 22:06.44 | kblin | evening folks |
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| 22:07.07 | carols | MatthewWilkes: um, i don't want to make any promises one way or the other :-) |
| 22:07.11 | carols | evening kblin |
| 22:07.18 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I wouldn't expect anything less |
| 22:07.46 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i have been successful in my quest to ambiguity |
| 22:07.49 | kblin | I wouldn't mind zurich, I'll be flying around the states half of september, being able to take a three hour train trip would be great for a change |
| 22:08.22 | kblin | carols: looking forward to yet another great gsoc :) |
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| 22:08.32 | gevaerts | hartem: at the last mentor summit, during the closing session when we discussed what could be improved, it was suggested to move the mentor summit to Zurich in winter. It's unclear how serious this suggestion was, or how serious the enormous support for it was |
| 22:08.35 | ThomasWaldmann | yay :) |
| 22:08.40 | neo000 | @kblin ...any idea ? |
| 22:08.48 | carols | kblin: thanks. me too. i think we have some awesome orgs participating this year. the quality of the applications were really high this year. |
| 22:08.54 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: the weather in CA is much better in october :D |
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| 22:09.18 | carols | wasn't actually sure if she was being trolled or not :-) |
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| 22:09.30 | Ophiuchi | . o O (cheese fondue) |
| 22:09.36 | gevaerts | carols: I don't think anyone actually knows :) |
| 22:09.37 | MatthewWilkes | carols: If you were it was a pretty advanced troll |
| 22:09.52 | carols | MatthewWilkes: we did have the creators of troll university in the room, after all |
| 22:10.01 | gevaerts | Probably including whoever first suggested it |
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| 22:10.11 | hartem | gevaerts: so is it clear for this year or you are still thinking? |
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| 22:10.23 | schumaml | Zürich would be a lot closer for me |
| 22:10.27 | gevaerts | hartem: *I* don't have to think. That's carols' job :) |
| 22:10.34 | kblin | carols: I'm running the finances for a club called "Troll", does that count? |
| 22:10.44 | hartem | gevaerts: I thought you also work in Google :) |
| 22:10.46 | carols | kblin: eh, i'd give it a half |
| 22:10.57 | MatthewWilkes | schumaml: Where are you, if I may ask? |
| 22:11.05 | gevaerts | hartem: I work for a company that started at about the same time as Google :) |
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| 22:11.09 | schumaml | Leinfelden |
| 22:11.10 | kblin | neo000: I have a lot of ideas |
| 22:11.14 | kblin | meh |
| 22:11.31 | kblin | schumaml: then at least you have a really short trip to the airport ;) |
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| 22:11.41 | gevaerts | 20 days apart |
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| 22:11.51 | gevaerts | Well, 21 |
| 22:12.13 | carols | hartem: we're always still thinking until we've decided. |
| 22:12.14 | schumaml | kblin: walked there once |
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| 22:12.30 | neo000 | hello every1 !! |
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| 22:12.43 | kblin | neo000: I have a lot of ideas, but I'm not sure any of them might help you :) |
| 22:12.46 | MatthewWilkes | schumaml: Don't recognise all the airport names yet |
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| 22:13.09 | MatthewWilkes | Look's like Kevin's connection is a bit dodge today |
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| 22:13.32 | gevaerts | has to admit that the company he works for didn't grow as fast as Google though |
| 22:13.32 | neo000 | connect irc://irc.hackthissite.org:+7000/ |
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| 22:14.45 | MatthewWilkes | neo000: Excuse me? |
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| 22:15.11 | stpere | neo000: don't forget the initial / |
| 22:15.16 | schumaml | trying to get you banned, or more likely become participatns in a ddos? |
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| 22:17.07 | asmeurer | What is the purpose of the contact info in the org info form? |
| 22:17.20 | asmeurer | also the shipping info |
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| 22:17.49 | hartem | asmeurer: There is a t-shirt involved :) |
| 22:17.56 | |Kev| | The shipping info is so you can have stuff (tshirt) shipped. |
| 22:17.58 | SRabbelier | https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1rcA4fVL6h8bfv2BUCdSikqR00v5qfeKvB769SX3u8y4&hl=en |
| 22:17.58 | thiago_home | not for the org |
| 22:18.00 | SRabbelier | There, how's that |
| 22:18.06 | SRabbelier | carols: ^ |
| 22:18.08 | thiago_home | it's usually for invoicing and other bureaucratic procedures |
| 22:18.14 | asmeurer | yes, this is the org thing |
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| 22:18.27 | thiago_home | when I applied for KDE in '06-08, I gave the e.V.'s address |
| 22:18.27 | carols | SRabbelier: pretty good :-) |
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| 22:18.36 | asmeurer | I already know about the student part (I have participated as a student before), but this is my first time as an org admin |
| 22:18.48 | SRabbelier | carols: anything it needs to be very good? :P |
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| 22:19.08 | carols | "yes"s next to the line flowing downward |
| 22:19.19 | carols | or no's as applicable |
| 22:19.36 | SRabbelier | carols: ah, right, meant to add those but forgot |
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| 22:20.33 | asmeurer | I'm not sure what to put in the slots desired thing |
| 22:20.46 | SRabbelier | asmeurer: not important yet |
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| 22:21.46 | asmeurer | can it be edited later? |
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| 22:23.25 | asmeurer | can someone maybe explain how exactly the "slots desired" number is used? |
| 22:23.49 | dhaun | it's for the number of students your org wants to mentor |
| 22:23.51 | Ophiuchi | asmeurer: when you have applications, how many you'd like to take |
| 22:23.52 | kblin | asmeurer: as SRabbelier said, it's not important yet |
| 22:23.53 | hartem | good night |
| 22:24.21 | asmeurer | well, we'd like to take all the ones that are good :) |
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| 22:25.15 | asmeurer | I understand what it is, but I am unsure at this point how many people we can mentor (I still need to talk to potential mentors) |
| 22:25.30 | SRabbelier | asmeurer: it's not important yet |
| 22:25.33 | |Kev| | As may have been mentioned repeatedly before... |
| 22:25.33 | carols | asmeurer: which is why, as SRabbelier said, the number is unimportant right now |
| 22:25.36 | |Kev| | It's not important yet. |
| 22:25.39 | SRabbelier | asmeurer: pretend it doesn't exist |
| 22:25.45 | asmeurer | so just leave it as 0 |
| 22:25.46 | asmeurer | ? |
| 22:25.52 | SRabbelier | asmeurer: sure |
| 22:25.52 | carols | yes |
| 22:25.57 | asmeurer | ok, great! |
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| 22:26.10 | SRabbelier | asmeurer: can you create a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue that we should hide that field until it is important? |
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| 22:27.49 | SRabbelier | !eligible |
| 22:27.59 | SRabbelier | !eligibility |
| 22:28.24 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: But if you hide it, how can people put the right value in it? >: ) |
| 22:28.33 | SRabbelier | !learn eligible as Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 22:28.33 | socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:28.42 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: we'll show it when it's needed |
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| 22:28.47 | ojwb | |Kev|: read the source and hand-craft a GET request |
| 22:28.47 | SRabbelier | !eligible |
| 22:28.48 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 22:29.01 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: surely you mean POST :P |
| 22:29.19 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: I don't. ojwb might :) |
| 22:29.41 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: *waves hand* that's totally what I said |
| 22:29.47 | ojwb | now expects all flowcharts to be funny (curse you xkcd) |
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| 22:30.32 | ojwb | well, GET is easier to handcraft, and frameworks typically accept them interchangeably |
| 22:31.03 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: That's really very useful, thanks (on behalf of the students who won't say it themselves :)) |
| 22:31.14 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: np |
| 22:31.36 | SRabbelier | ojwb: pfrt, we don't, any mutations need a POST request with a proper XSRF token |
| 22:31.42 | SRabbelier | ojwb: we're secureded mahn! |
| 22:32.06 | carols | thank you SRabbelier for doing something i've had on my todo list for a year and haven't managed to get around to |
| 22:32.12 | carols | seriously |
| 22:32.16 | carols | it's amazing how busy i am |
| 22:32.23 | SRabbelier | carols: awr, you're welcome ^__^ |
| 22:32.57 | SRabbelier | c'mon people, who's in for a game of eliminate-things-form-carols-todo-list-without-knowing-the-list-beforehand! :D |
| 22:33.03 | |Kev| | carols: If your TODO only has items on it from a year ago, you're doing much better than me. |
| 22:33.22 | warthog9 | SRabbelier: does that mean we need to be omniscient to ascertain what's on the todo list? |
| 22:33.24 | carols | |Kev|: it doesn't *only* have items from a year ago. it just so happens that the flowchart was from that time frame :-) |
| 22:33.39 | wtachi | warthog9: no--guess. |
| 22:33.42 | SRabbelier | warthog9: no, just do a lot of GSoC related stuff, something's bound to be on the list :P |
| 22:33.51 | |Kev| | warthog9: "Gain Omniscience" is item 239. |
| 22:33.58 | warthog9 | ahhh wack-a-mole ;-) |
| 22:33.59 | carols | |Kev|: you've got it. |
| 22:34.00 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: +1 |
| 22:34.28 | carols | SRabbelier: "fix melange" is on the list. you could help with that :-) |
| 22:34.34 | jrabbit | hahaha |
| 22:34.42 | ojwb | SRabbelier: "Are you a Google employees" etc should lose the plurals |
| 22:34.43 | carols | trundles off to get a friday drink |
| 22:34.57 | SRabbelier | carols: I think everybody could help with that ;) |
| 22:35.06 | |Kev| | ojwb: Put it on Carol's TODO. |
| 22:35.33 | ojwb | wonders what counts as a "family member" for these purposes |
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| 22:38.03 | SRabbelier | ojwb: fixing |
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| 22:38.31 | SRabbelier | ojwb: thanks |
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| 22:43.12 | asmeurer | out of curiosity, will Google release the number of organizations who applied? |
| 22:43.39 | SRabbelier | !numapps |
| 22:43.39 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
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| 22:43.55 | asmeurer | ah, that works :) |
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| 22:46.26 | ojwb | interesting, it was 430 before I thought |
| 22:46.32 | ojwb | 13 duplicates or something? |
| 22:46.38 | |Kev| | ojwb: Dupes, yeah. |
| 22:46.41 | gevaerts | Apparently |
| 22:46.51 | gevaerts | We were lied to last week! |
| 22:47.01 | gevaerts | will forgive this though |
| 22:47.25 | sha26 | suppose i have contributed to more than 1 organization but their specs are different like on on c++ and other on web (javascript)..can i draft my proposal in both..or should i go for only one ? |
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| 22:48.20 | gevaerts | sha26: you can make as many proposals as you like (as long as you don't like more than 20 or so) according to the rules, but I wouldn't recommend doing more than two or three |
| 22:48.40 | SRabbelier | sha26: also, ask your organization |
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| 22:48.52 | sha26 | what should i ask ? |
| 22:49.39 | sha26 | gevaerts: wouldnt i make my proposals little bit messy like one in cpp and other in css/javascript..these are way to uncommon |
| 22:49.55 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: Why? I know we like to know if students have applied elsewhere, but I'm not sure if it would actually influence our decision |
| 22:50.16 | gevaerts | sha26: how? They're separate proposals. |
| 22:50.40 | gevaerts | Of course if even you can't keep them apart, I'd recommend doing only one :) |
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| 22:50.43 | SRabbelier | ah, nvm, I misread the question |
| 22:50.45 | weltall | hi i've an issue when writing my adress in the mentor application form. i can't put ' which is part of it what shall i do? leave blank? put the words togheter? (something like "D'Ac...") |
| 22:50.51 | SRabbelier | I thought multiple proposals to the same org but in a different programming language |
| 22:51.11 | SRabbelier | weltall: yeah, work around it somehow |
| 22:51.19 | weltall | k |
| 22:51.22 | SRabbelier | weltall: shipping requirements and whatnot |
| 22:51.24 | kblin | weltall: use whatever your post office will understand :) |
| 22:51.58 | SRabbelier | kblin: within the limitations imposed by Google's shipping dpt. :P |
| 22:52.08 | kblin | or the fed-ex delivery guy, for that matter |
| 22:52.09 | weltall | my postman can't even write correctly delivery statements so the post office goes nuts and searches for half a day a missing shipment XD |
| 22:52.30 | weltall | i think the space should work anyway |
| 22:52.32 | kblin | leaving out umlauts works for me |
| 22:52.35 | weltall | thanks |
| 22:52.58 | sha26 | gevaerts: what if the different orgs have same kind of work..then i hope it will be fine.I just dont want to miss this and wants to make a position at least one place. |
| 22:53.26 | gevaerts | sha26: I'm starting to get confused about what exactly you're asking now |
| 22:54.19 | dhaun | sha26: you should certainly NOT send the same application to 2 different orgs, if that's what you're asking for |
| 22:54.36 | Ophiuchi | sha26: you put in an application per project you are interested in, not just one for yourself |
| 22:56.02 | SRabbelier | likes lh's quit msg |
| 22:56.04 | sha26 | gevaerts: i will state it as : i have done contributions in two different open source organizations. one dealing with c++ and other in css/javascript. I just want to ask whether applying to both the orgs will affect my propsal..and will it sound like i am not sure about one thing. |
| 22:56.34 | SRabbelier | sha26: no, applying to both orgs will not affect things |
| 22:56.40 | SRabbelier | sha26: of course, you can only be accepted at one org |
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| 22:57.16 | sha26 | SRabbelier: and is there any priority rule or something ? |
| 22:57.35 | SRabbelier | sha26: you mean, if you get accepted to both orgs? |
| 22:57.44 | sha26 | SRabbelier: yes |
| 22:57.54 | gevaerts | sha26: if you're selected by both, they will probably ask you which you prefer |
| 22:58.13 | sha26 | okay |
| 22:58.58 | SRabbelier | sha26: there are plans to add a "favorite proposal" feature to Melange, but atm there isn't |
| 22:59.22 | sha26 | Can any organization confirm in advance regarding the selection ? |
| 22:59.31 | sha26 | like in a informal manner |
| 22:59.38 | thiago_home | no |
| 22:59.39 | |Kev| | sha26: No. |
| 22:59.43 | thiago_home | they won't know either |
| 22:59.48 | |Kev| | For one thing, Orgs don't know themselves. |
| 23:00.08 | |Kev| | Ok, I'm giving the same answers on an echo, that must mean it's time for bed. |
| 23:00.10 | |Kev| | GN :) |
| 23:00.13 | sha26 | orgs dont suggest any names..whom they want ? |
| 23:00.37 | thiago_home | they do |
| 23:00.37 | gevaerts | they do, but they don't know how many slots they'll end up getting |
| 23:00.49 | gevaerts | And other things can happen |
| 23:01.01 | SRabbelier | sha26: The orgs rank the proposals by how much they like them |
| 23:01.02 | thiago_home | conflict resolution |
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| 23:02.36 | sha26 | so it means whatever the idea they have listed on their project pages..is not necessarily going to get selected ? |
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| 23:03.00 | agliodbs | I'm getting this error when I try to accept my mentor invitiation |
| 23:03.00 | gevaerts | sha26: what happens is that students write proposals, and those proposals are ranked |
| 23:03.02 | agliodbs | This request has not been accepted by the group (it can also be completed already). |
| 23:03.19 | agliodbs | aside from not being English, it then loses my whole profile |
| 23:03.50 | gevaerts | Then organisations tell google how many slots they want, and then google provides an initial slot allocation. |
| 23:04.12 | sha26 | gevaerts: and in some cases orgs may help in writing the proposal . right ? |
| 23:04.40 | ojwb | sha26: most orgs will discuss and provide feedback |
| 23:04.58 | gevaerts | The exact contents of the proposal are irrelevant, only its ranking matters, i.e. how much the org likes it |
| 23:05.37 | sha26 | ultimately orgs is going to rank the proposal and sends it to google .. |
| 23:05.56 | gevaerts | no |
| 23:06.01 | amaurymedeiros | !next |
| 23:06.01 | socinfo | amaurymedeiros: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 23:07.04 | gevaerts | After all this, conflicts are made visible, i.e. if a student has proposals in the top ranking at more than one org, people at those orgs see this, and will likely talk to the student and the other orgs. The "losing" org then down-ranks the proposal until it's only in the top list of one org |
| 23:07.18 | gevaerts | During this, slot counts are adjusted as well |
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| 23:07.41 | gevaerts | In the end, all proposals that are within the selected number of top slots are selected |
| 23:08.19 | gevaerts | So yes, in theory an organisation can be reasonably sure that the first ranked proposal will be selected, but *I* would *never* tell the student that in advance |
| 23:09.10 | gevaerts | We want to treat all selected students the same, and if some of them know in advance that they'll be selected and some don't, that equality is gone even before gsoc starts |
| 23:09.27 | pygi | um you know, with orgs list out, I'm tempted to be a student one more time xD |
| 23:09.36 | pygi | sad |
| 23:09.37 | pygi | :D |
| 23:09.41 | gevaerts | pygi: tempted by this CD burning idea? ;) |
| 23:09.49 | pygi | haha no |
| 23:09.50 | thiago_home | every now and then has nightmares about being a student |
| 23:09.52 | sha26 | gevaerts: just to be sure in that case when student has proposal in top ranking in more than one org....others org wont be having any kind of issue with that..they will first confirm from the students and then rak down the proposal. |
| 23:09.55 | thiago_home | so no, thanks |
| 23:10.20 | pygi | thiago_home: hehehe :D |
| 23:10.42 | gevaerts | sha26: the rules say those orgs have to talk to each other. Tradition says they will try to follow the preference of the student |
| 23:11.17 | agliodbs | thiago_home: not me. I'd love to be a student again, assuming it was fully paid by someone else |
| 23:11.29 | agliodbs | students think they're working hard. they have no idea |
| 23:11.32 | kblin | sometimes there's other factors as well |
| 23:12.00 | gevaerts | sha26: suppose one of the orgs really only has one decent proposal, and the other has many. In cases like that, people will prefer assigning the student to the first org |
| 23:12.09 | SRabbelier | will now go off to bed |
| 23:12.27 | sha26 | gevaerts: okay now i get it. |
| 23:12.31 | kblin | agliodbs: as a grad student, I beg to differ. I've got a full-time job at the lab, am being paid half-time and am expected to somehow produce a thesis before my funding runs out |
| 23:12.41 | ojwb | sha26: in the end it's assumed that if you applied for a project, it |
| 23:12.46 | ojwb | is one you'd want to do |
| 23:13.02 | agliodbs | kblin: see "assuming it was fully paid for by somebody else" |
| 23:13.08 | kblin | though life as an undergrad was pretty chilled |
| 23:13.09 | gevaerts | Yes. If you *really* don't want to work on a project, you shouldn't have proposed it :) |
| 23:13.20 | agliodbs | agreed that if you're working a FT job while being a student, that's pretty hard |
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| 23:14.02 | kblin | hey lh |
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| 23:14.25 | sha26 | ojwb: what if one wants to safeguard his place on gsoc ? there could be odds that his proposal wont get selected in one org ..and he may get from other as fail safe .. |
| 23:14.46 | agliodbs | sha26: there is nothing wrong with applying to multiple org |
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| 23:14.48 | agliodbs | orgs |
| 23:15.06 | agliodbs | as long as they're all stuff you really want to work on |
| 23:15.18 | ojwb | exactly |
| 23:16.03 | ojwb | your preference will usually be taken into account, but you shouldn't rely on that |
| 23:16.29 | ojwb | the most compelling applications I've seen have been that student's only application |
| 23:16.31 | pygi | thiago_home: its not that bad most of the time :p |
| 23:16.45 | gevaerts | I know it's easy to say (I won't be missing out on the $5000 this advice might cost you...), but gsoc shouldn't be just about the money. Don't propose projects you're not fully involved in just because you want the money |
| 23:16.52 | thiago_home | pygi: being a student? no, I had a blast while I was a student |
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| 23:17.19 | thiago_home | pygi: but nightmares are nightmares, regardless of the subject. And I don't seem to have any other kinds of dreams of being a student... |
| 23:17.39 | gevaerts | once lost an excellent student to a (/me shudders) *web* thing... |
| 23:17.47 | pygi | :D |
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| 23:18.01 | pygi | who's dokuwiki mentor around here? |
| 23:18.04 | pygi | should remember some name |
| 23:18.30 | gevaerts | So yes, I know it's possible to write *two* convincing proposals in very different domains |
| 23:18.55 | sha26 | gevaerts: i dont want to miss that bcoz i have got nothing that much nice as gsco for this summer.I have already offered internships at places,but i really want to work on somthing i love to do. |
| 23:19.02 | lupo49_ | pygi: its Michitux |
| 23:19.18 | Ophiuchi | one shouldn't forget that getting accepted is only half the goal, you need to actually finish the project too .. and that's easier if one likes it :) |
| 23:19.32 | pygi | Ophiuchi: nah getting accepted is easier |
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| 23:19.44 | pygi | but neither is too hard if you care what you're doing |
| 23:19.48 | pygi | Michitux: poke? :p |
| 23:20.08 | gevaerts | sha26: just make sure the organisations are convinced you like the project enough to finish it and to probably stick around afterwards. The easiest way to convince them of that is to actually feel that way :) |
| 23:20.40 | Ophiuchi | anyway, I need to be off. I get to work tomorrow. :-/ |
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| 23:21.00 | Michitux | pygi: ? |
| 23:21.10 | pygi | Michitux: are you dokuwiki mentor? :) |
| 23:21.21 | Michitux | pygi: yes, I'm org admin and I'll be mentor, too |
| 23:21.24 | gevaerts | And of course you need to convince them that you know what you're talking about. That *doesn't* have to mean you're an expert in anything, but it *does* mean you shouldn't pretend to be an expert when you're not |
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| 23:21.42 | pygi | Michitux: got like 15 mins for me to talk ? :) |
| 23:22.14 | Michitux | pygi: should be possible |
| 23:22.26 | sha26 | gevaerts: yes i will try to convince by showing my work..not by any chit-chat. |
| 23:22.42 | agliodbs | for students: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/summerofcodeadvice |
| 23:22.47 | gevaerts | Someone who's passionate about a project but needs to learn a lot and is honest about that will win over someone who already knows all they need to know for the project and has done seven similar projects in the past, but who appears to be bored by it |
| 23:22.49 | agliodbs | I think that advice applies to most projects |
| 23:23.44 | sha26 | gevaerts: but what if he wont be bored..he really loves to do that. |
| 23:23.49 | gevaerts | sha26: show your work, and talk about it. "no chit-chat" shouldn't mean "no talking" :) |
| 23:24.42 | sha26 | gevaerts: okay..i went in a different track... :P |
| 23:25.29 | gevaerts | sha26: oh, in that case it's easy. If you're equally good in the non-technical areas as the competition, but better on the technical bits, you will be ranked higher. I just want to say that being technically brilliant on its own is not sufficient by far |
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| 23:27.09 | sha26 | gevaerts: the thing i am saying all this stuff is ..in last few days i tried two different orgs and i think i made some good impact in the mentors/admins at both places.So i just got confused where should i apply....and regarding the work.. i will love to do anywhere. |
| 23:27.25 | agliodbs | so apply to both |
| 23:27.34 | gevaerts | sha26: in that case "both" is probably the right answer |
| 23:27.47 | gevaerts | agliodbs: that's a lot of applications... |
| 23:27.48 | ojwb | there's nothing more frustrating than a genius who churns out code without listening to feedback |
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| 23:28.18 | sha26 | gevaerts: thats something i was looking for. |
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| 23:30.40 | gevaerts | agliodbs: I suspect some of those paragraphs aren't applicable for everyone. Based on a discussion here a few days ago I'd say there should be a bit that says that not meeting one of them isn't the end of the world, but if you really get ten proposals for every slot, and most of those proposals are good, then maybe not... |
| 23:31.10 | gevaerts | I know we (rockbox) have a much lower good proposal to slot ratio |
| 23:31.29 | gevaerts | And we also mostly don't have projects that need academic references :) |
| 23:31.39 | ojwb | hmm, does the user id completion only offer names starting with "a"? |
| 23:31.48 | ojwb | or is it just for me? |
| 23:32.11 | agliodbs | ojwb: melange sucks rocks in almost every way imaginable |
| 23:32.30 | agliodbs | except that it's better than what we had 2 years ago |
| 23:32.41 | gevaerts | It improves steadily |
| 23:32.44 | ojwb | I was about to say it's better than the old system |
| 23:33.04 | ojwb | i guess the completion returns N ids and that only gets the "a"s now |
| 23:33.18 | ojwb | so top tip, make your link id start "aaa" |
| 23:33.43 | gevaerts | Is it restricted to printable ascii? |
| 23:33.54 | agliodbs | gevaerts: sure. but a student who has make themselves known to the developers is much more likely to be accepted |
| 23:34.08 | kblin | I think it's one of these stupid appengine query restrictions |
| 23:34.10 | ojwb | gevaerts: I think so |
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| 23:34.24 | gevaerts | ojwb: bah. I wanted a linkid that starts with ETX! |
| 23:34.32 | agliodbs | gevaerts: agreed on academic stuff. as a DMBS, it's much more relevant for us |
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| 23:35.54 | agliodbs | gevaerts: 50-100 is a lot of applications? |
| 23:35.54 | gevaerts | agliodbs: yes, knowing the students is really one of the most important aspects. And yes, I can see why you need academic stuff :) |
| 23:36.22 | agliodbs | gevaerts: it's not required, but if it's there, it shows us that the student has researched their problem |
| 23:36.30 | gevaerts | agliodbs: well, yes and no. You're a slightly better known project than we are :) |
| 23:36.31 | agliodbs | gevaerts: there's pretty much nothing new in the world of DBMSes |
| 23:36.41 | agliodbs | gevaerts: which project are you? |
| 23:36.44 | gevaerts | rockbox |
| 23:36.53 | agliodbs | huh. what's it do? |
| 23:36.55 | gevaerts | There's old standard SQL syntax that's newly supported :) |
| 23:37.09 | agliodbs | gevaerts: and old DBMS models which are new again |
| 23:37.15 | gevaerts | Replacement firmware for portable audio players |
| 23:37.30 | agliodbs | huh. cool. what hardware does it work with? |
| 23:37.48 | gevaerts | And these days also audio player software for smartphones (basically a port to run as an application) |
| 23:37.53 | gevaerts | lots... |
| 23:38.03 | gevaerts | http://www.rockbox.org/ has a list |
| 23:38.13 | agliodbs | I have some old Creative thumbdrive audio players ... |
| 23:38.18 | gevaerts | Not those :\ |
| 23:38.33 | gevaerts | If you're interested to work on them though, feel free :) |
| 23:38.39 | agliodbs | heh |
| 23:38.44 | agliodbs | I only work on big server stuff |
| 23:38.59 | agliodbs | I only have the foggiest how firmware works in general |
| 23:39.35 | gevaerts | I on the other hand can use SQL a bit, but don't ask me how to implement an efficient index :) |
| 23:39.46 | kblin | it's more solid than software but not as solid as hardware |
| 23:40.15 | agliodbs | gevaerts: indexes are a black art still, unfortunately |
| 23:40.27 | gevaerts | is good enough at databases to identify that this 1.5 million record table needs an index if people are going to do updates on it all the time, or else the system load won't go down again |
| 23:40.38 | kblin | agliodbs: they rely on when I last ate a chicken? :) |
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| 23:41.07 | agliodbs | kblin: "sacrificed". the word is "sacrificed" |
| 23:41.37 | kblin | of course, first you sacrifice it, and then you eat it |
| 23:42.07 | gevaerts | And you pretend that the gods ate it :) |
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| 23:42.22 | kblin | of course |
| 23:42.46 | kblin | I learned that from diskworld :) |
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| 23:44.10 | gevaerts | suspects discworld learned it from roundworld :) |
| 23:44.53 | thiago_home | lol |
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| 23:57.49 | dukeleto | hola |
| 23:58.11 | ojwb | hi dukeleto |
| 23:58.14 | dukeleto | has to jump on a plane in 2 mins |
| 23:58.17 | dukeleto | ojwb: howdy! |
| 23:58.23 | lh | kblin: greetings! |
| 23:58.36 | gevaerts | recommends not getting that wrong, and not jumping off a plane instead |
| 23:58.50 | agliodbs | hey, dukeleto ! |
| 23:58.58 | agliodbs | dukeleto: you wanna mentor for us as well as Perl? |
| 23:59.06 | agliodbs | poaches mentors |