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| 05:01.22 | ALOKRANJAN | hi |
| 05:05.31 | AbhijiT | hi |
| 05:10.32 | ALOKRANJAN | AbhijiT: tell me something about gsoc |
| 05:10.50 | AbhijiT | !gsoc |
| 05:10.50 | socinfo | AbhijiT: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums |
| 05:11.16 | AbhijiT | ALOKRANJAN, http://code.google.com/soc/ |
| 05:11.40 | AbhijiT | ALOKRANJAN, http://www.google-melange.com/ |
| 05:11.56 | AbhijiT | ALOKRANJAN, http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs |
| 05:11.56 | ALOKRANJAN | AbhijiT: how can i find mentors |
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| 05:12.24 | AbhijiT | ALOKRANJAN, read the faqs i dont know. i am also new here. to find mentors contact the respective projects. |
| 05:12.59 | ALOKRANJAN | AbhijiT: who is indian mentor? |
| 05:13.13 | AbhijiT | i dont know. |
| 05:13.28 | AbhijiT | there is no any such concept of indian mentor. get any mentor you can from that project |
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| 07:58.13 | GautamGupta | Hello, may I know when would the final results be published? |
| 07:58.28 | kai | for gci? |
| 07:58.30 | kai | !next |
| 07:58.30 | socinfo | kai: "next" is February 14, 2011: Open source projects announce Grand Prize Winners |
| 07:58.43 | kai | sometime today, I guess? :) |
| 07:59.14 | GautamGupta | Right :) |
| 07:59.28 | GautamGupta | Thanks, bye! |
| 07:59.52 | ojwb | it's not quite 14th at google HQ yet |
| 07:59.58 | GautamGupta | Hmm |
| 08:00.07 | ojwb | so you might have to wait up to 24 hours |
| 08:00.44 | kai | it certainly won't happen before they get up |
| 08:00.55 | ojwb | i'd imagine it'll happen some time during carol's working day, so probably < 18 hours |
| 08:01.13 | GautamGupta | Ohk :) |
| 08:01.28 | kai | but probably not in the next 8 hours |
| 08:01.50 | kai | it's midnight in google-town |
| 08:01.50 | ojwb | indeed |
| 08:02.10 | GautamGupta | Hmm |
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| 08:05.28 | thebolt | hi |
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| 08:16.56 | kai | oi thebolt |
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| 08:24.02 | thebolt | hi kai, how's things? |
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| 09:01.23 | kai | thebolt: doing great, starting some lab work this week |
| 09:07.01 | thebolt | nice |
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| 14:17.52 | rajeev | will normal file management systems do with the gsoc projects or should i learn better ones if any? |
| 14:19.02 | |Kev| | rajeev: file management systems? |
| 14:19.51 | rajeev | yes.....most projects will deal with files right? |
| 14:20.43 | |Kev| | I still don't understand the question, I'm afraid. |
| 14:20.57 | |Kev| | Unless you're asking if you should learn a VCS, in which case the answer will almost certainly be 'yes'. |
| 14:21.06 | |Kev| | Although which one will depend on the project. |
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| 14:22.48 | rajeev | the basic file management techniques in c++ are not always quite efficinet with larger files |
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| 14:23.33 | |Kev| | Oh, you're asking about file handling in C++? |
| 14:24.05 | |Kev| | The majority of projects aren't going to have any special requirements there (indeed many projects won't involve you touching file code at all). |
| 14:24.07 | rajeev | sorry......i forgot to say that |
| 14:24.18 | |Kev| | Morning carols. |
| 14:24.21 | dberkholz | you'll have to talk with your potential mentor about details like that, it will vary depending on the project |
| 14:24.28 | carols | morning |Kev| |
| 14:24.45 | dberkholz | wow carols, you're up early. |
| 14:24.54 | carols | dberkholz: im in dublin :-) |
| 14:24.58 | kai | ah |
| 14:25.00 | |Kev| | Afternoon carols. |
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| 14:25.08 | |Kev| | :) |
| 14:25.13 | dberkholz | ah. i'm still in the midwest, as usual... |
| 14:25.27 | dberkholz | looking at corn stalks covered by snow drifts |
| 14:25.30 | kai | ojwb: seems like we need to revise our proposed schedule then :) |
| 14:25.35 | rajeev | and good night kev.....i am in india |
| 14:25.44 | |Kev| | rajeev: gn. |
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| 14:26.09 | ojwb | kai: perhaps... |
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| 15:17.05 | justinas | kai: IIRC you were working with in the bioinformatics field? |
| 15:17.30 | kai | justinas: yeah |
| 15:18.23 | justinas | I was perusing previous year bioinf projects. |
| 15:18.51 | justinas | What was your company? |
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| 15:26.02 | justinas | If you don't mind me asking, that is. It is only relevant if they participated in GSoC. :-) |
| 15:26.28 | kai | justinas: I'm working at a university, and we're not participating in GSoC :) |
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| 15:27.31 | kai | if you're into Perl, the BioPerl folks are pretty nice |
| 15:28.11 | kai | I don't remember if they participated under the Perl or Open Bioinformatics Foundation umbrella last year |
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| 15:29.32 | justinas | I must admit that I have no previous experience with Perl. |
| 15:30.12 | kai | there's other Bio<language> projects, not sure if they consider participating |
| 15:30.54 | justinas | Would be nice, though. |
| 15:31.14 | kai | BioPerl seems to be the most active one, but BioPython and BioJava seem to be alive as well |
| 15:31.38 | justinas | The last year I was working with Boost, so you may infer that I am a little bit profficient with C++. |
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| 15:31.49 | justinas | There is no BioC++ as far as I know. |
| 15:32.04 | kai | no, who in his good mind would use C++? ;) |
| 15:32.10 | kai | </troll> |
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| 15:32.19 | justinas | arches an eyebrow. |
| 15:32.59 | justinas | My professor said the same. :-) |
| 15:34.20 | kai | in fact, some of the ugliest C++ code I've seen is the threading code in NCBI blast+, not sure if that makes or disproves my point |
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| 15:34.43 | justinas | His doubts were soon banished when I showed that for my particular purposes (I was computing some measures on proteins) to code everything in C++, including the PDB parser, and to execute the program many-many times with various combinations of params was actually much faster than to run Python script, even though that said Python script was practically readily available. |
| 15:35.44 | kai | the software I'm currently trying to publish spends most of it's runtime in c++ code as well |
| 15:37.03 | justinas | Aye. I don't care much for, say, 1HTO residue processing in BioPython. :-X |
| 15:37.35 | justinas | On my laptop such simple measures as, for instance, Half-sphere exposure is computed at least half a day! |
| 15:37.43 | justinas | \o/ |
| 15:37.57 | justinas | No, absolutely unacceptable. |
| 15:39.23 | thebolt | hi kai , justinas |
| 15:39.31 | justinas | Hi, thebolt. Long time no see. |
| 15:39.42 | justinas | Happy in Thailand? :-) |
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| 15:40.52 | thebolt | justinas: still never been in thailand :P |
| 15:40.58 | thebolt | but yes, i'm happy here in taiwan :) |
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| 15:41.24 | justinas | Quel dommage, quel dommage. |
| 15:41.48 | justinas | Anyway, all is well that turns out well. |
| 15:43.56 | justinas | Personally, I rather like Danish climate. It's good for my sking and general wellbeing, even though I must admit that the finer points of Danish language still elude me. |
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| 15:45.14 | justinas | I had been assured, however, that this was only to be expected. |
| 15:46.50 | kai | justinas: as long as you can do "Je vil gerne have en øl.", you're probably fine |
| 15:46.57 | thebolt | hehe |
| 15:47.05 | thebolt | danish is hm.. not very hard |
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| 15:47.26 | kai | thebolt: people tell me it's like swedish with a hot potato in your mouth |
| 15:47.33 | kai | swedish people, mostly |
| 15:48.16 | justinas | thebolt: I am not complaining about grammar. Curiously enough, I can read basic texts now, like tabloids. |
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| 15:48.50 | justinas | The problem lies with phonetics. :-X |
| 15:49.36 | justinas | Not a single clear vowel, out of 15 letters only 5 pronounced (and even these come out garbled). |
| 15:51.20 | justinas | And, of course, if I open my mouth in a vain attempt to speak in Danish, all my interlocutors-to-be kindly (and unavoidably!) swith to English. |
| 15:51.42 | justinas | You may imagine that this does not facilitate learning at all. |
| 15:54.25 | thebolt | heh yea |
| 15:54.32 | thebolt | here people never switch to english ;) |
| 15:54.48 | thebolt | (ok, some do.. if you ask them nicely) |
| 15:55.34 | justinas | You must speak taiwanese by now. :-D |
| 15:55.57 | thebolt | taiwanese.. not a word |
| 15:56.15 | thebolt | i begin to learn some mandarin chinese.. but it is hard and takes time |
| 16:01.47 | kai | justinas: well, keep speaking danish? |
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| 16:06.43 | gsathya | Hello ! |
| 16:08.23 | |Kev| | Hi. |
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| 16:15.50 | justinas | kai: It seems that they honestly do not understand much I am trying to say. |
| 16:15.57 | justinas | Alas. |
| 16:16.04 | justinas | Be that as it may. |
| 16:16.10 | justinas | I'll persevere. |
| 16:19.58 | thebolt | well, danish children apparently learn to speak properly much later than children in norway and sweden.. and learns it later and later due to the language being less and less clear |
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| 17:07.46 | Nightrose | carols: yay @ 14 winners! |
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| 17:07.47 | Nightrose | awesome |
| 17:07.52 | carols | :-) |
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| 17:22.10 | aviraldg | carols: Nice call, it's fair to everyone. I was wondering, are mentors invited? I really wanted to meet my mentor in the flesh... are they? |
| 17:22.20 | carols | aviraldg: nope, sorry |
| 17:22.43 | aviraldg | carols: hmm... |
| 17:23.14 | aviraldg | they *were* invited for GHOP, right? |
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| 17:31.28 | SamRB | Hello I need some guide to GSOC |
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| 17:34.40 | gsathya | samRB try this http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/userguide |
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| 17:37.43 | SamRB | thanks gsathya |
| 17:37.54 | SamRB | but i need some suggestions |
| 17:46.44 | carols | SamRB: suggestions for what? |
| 17:57.12 | SamRB | carols: how to select project, finding mentor... |
| 17:57.40 | carols | SamRB: have you tried the student guide? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
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