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| 11:44.53 | garage_tech | Hi, I am new to GSOC and was wondering whether I am late for this year since I havent been in contact with any of the organisations till today |
| 11:45.08 | Dark_Shikari | gsoc starts in like, april |
| 11:45.19 | Dark_Shikari | you're really early. not like that's a bad thing. |
| 11:45.25 | Dark_Shikari | !faq |
| 11:45.25 | socinfo | Dark_Shikari: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 11:46.43 | garage_tech | but i am assuming you have to be in active collaboration and conversation with the organizations well in advance since I have to show my skills |
| 11:47.08 | garage_tech | thanks socinfo i have read the FAQ |
| 11:48.48 | Dark_Shikari | Generally you're not required to; some organizations will have qualification tasks or such, but you don't have to be working with them beforehand. |
| 11:48.52 | Dark_Shikari | It's highly recommended though. |
| 11:49.05 | karni | garage_tech: It's good time to find the community you're looking for and start communicating ;) |
| 11:49.05 | Dark_Shikari | Personally, as a mentor, I will instantly prioritize all students who have done significant work with me before. |
| 11:49.08 | karni | Dark_Shikari++ |
| 11:49.20 | Dark_Shikari | They will be _guaranteed_ a slot if our org gets in. |
| 11:51.19 | garage_tech | So does now seem like a good time to start with things? |
| 11:51.36 | karni | garage_tech: Indeed :) |
| 11:51.37 | Dark_Shikari | There's never a bad time. |
| 11:52.11 | garage_tech | wonderful :) |
| 11:53.03 | dack_x | i'd like to get involved with something. it seems a bit daunting to know where to begin. what to try to jump on. |
| 11:53.06 | ojwb | garage_tech: now's a great time - most orgs will be currently be thinking about their gsoc application |
| 11:53.19 | napster00 | Dark_Shikari:i f i am new to mozilla from where shoulsd i start contributing |
| 11:53.24 | Dark_Shikari | Ask Mozilla. |
| 11:53.37 | napster00 | :P |
| 11:53.37 | ojwb | think of an area that interests you, and look for orgs in that area |
| 11:55.05 | napster00 | for the selction in gsoc it is quit necessary that mentor should know me presonally |
| 11:55.06 | dack_x | yes, what interests me. so much. i think that's the hardest part. |
| 11:55.43 | garage_tech | most of the projects i have browsed from previous GSOC editions make little sense, its hard enough to pick an organization and then reading through their Ideas page makes me feel cleless |
| 11:56.11 | garage_tech | *clueless |
| 11:56.47 | dack_x | i've read that a good place to begin is to look at open bugs and try to submit fixes for them. |
| 11:56.56 | karni | that's correct |
| 11:57.36 | dack_x | ok good |
| 11:57.39 | dack_x | any other suggestions? |
| 11:58.07 | karni | dack_x: yes. you can have your own idea, not from the list. quite often such idea is better than those listed just "for example" |
| 11:58.28 | karni | dack_x: also, it shows that you've got more guts then just pick a pre-listed idea |
| 11:59.03 | dack_x | ok thanks, karni |
| 11:59.20 | dack_x | and ojwb |
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| 12:01.24 | napster00 | karni: i thought suggesting my idea may be dangerous |
| 12:01.37 | karni | napster00: just the opposite :) |
| 12:01.57 | napster00 | :P |
| 12:01.59 | karni | napster00: it shows you've got serious interest and you have your own idea that you feel the org could make use of |
| 12:03.02 | napster00 | how can i make contats with the mentor of my organisation |
| 12:03.12 | napster00 | how cani know them |
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| 12:05.08 | garage_tech | what is the first step, should I select a mentor organization first ? |
| 12:05.41 | garage_tech | or gain general open source experience my contributing to bug fixes from anywhere else |
| 12:08.06 | Dark_Shikari | it's best to find something that looks interesting, start mucking with the code, and asking questions. |
| 12:08.11 | Dark_Shikari | if the community doesn't fit you, try another |
| 12:10.13 | karni | napster00: quite often the developers from the org will have mentors amongst them if the org is applying for gsoc. and them you can find over IRC ;) |
| 12:10.28 | karni | napster00: IRC, mailing lists, forums |
| 12:10.43 | Dark_Shikari | Many projects have TODOs of things to do. |
| 12:10.47 | Dark_Shikari | And developers who can answer even the dumbest questions. |
| 12:10.56 | Dark_Shikari | for example, we have http://wiki.videolan.org/X264_TODO |
| 12:11.04 | napster00 | i am in touch with all taht but how can i know excrly these are the mentors |
| 12:11.09 | napster00 | that* |
| 12:11.11 | Dark_Shikari | Ask them. |
| 12:11.14 | karni | napster00: and don't ask "who will mentor me", ask questions related to your project/interests - they will find you if they like what you do :) |
| 12:11.38 | karni | napster00: I mean.. you can ask, but it's better to make a good impresion rather than 'heeeey who'll be my mentor!' ;) you know what I mean. |
| 12:11.57 | napster00 | karni: ya |
| 12:12.27 | karni | napster00: like Dark_Shikari wrote, you can as who the mentors are. and quite often find their names/nick next to ideas listed on the wikis with ideas for gsoc. |
| 12:13.27 | napster00 | karni: means best thingh is that let the mentor find me |
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| 12:13.59 | karni | napster00: that's the ideal way, but it never hurts to ask. just show your best :) |
| 12:14.25 | napster00 | thanks karni |
| 12:14.39 | karni | napster00: you are welcome |
| 12:14.53 | napster00 | karni: some more suggestion from your side as i am applling first time |
| 12:15.08 | napster00 | applying* |
| 12:15.38 | karni | napster00: go through all the FAQs and documentation on gsoc related pages. it's also good to google experiences from gsoc and see how things look like. |
| 12:16.12 | karni | napster00: last, but not least, GSoC is not a toy, it's quite a challenge. you challenge yourself with new undertakings, and if successful, you're rewarded with possibility to |
| 12:16.36 | napster00 | karni: have you any idea if i am applying for drupal |
| 12:16.44 | karni | work for cools orgs while being sponsored by google. it's really unique opportunity and one should make best of it, if they get accepted :) |
| 12:17.19 | karni | napster00: not really, I'm not a web-guy really. but I know drupal had quite a few ideas for students to undertake. |
| 12:18.33 | napster00 | ok thanks karni |
| 12:18.40 | karni | np napster00 |
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| 12:25.33 | karni | dack_x: napster00: you guys (apart from googling for such blogs) can check out a few links I collected last year https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkarnicki/gsoc-blogs |
| 12:25.39 | karni | I'll be going now, cheers. |
| 12:27.03 | napster00 | karni: cheers |
| 12:27.06 | dack_x | thanks, karni |
| 12:28.25 | karni | btw last year, it was my first time to gsoc, too, and it [positively] blew my mind. good luck guys. /me goes afk |
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| 14:46.35 | garage_tech | How do I decide which mentor organisation to contribute to? |
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| 14:54.29 | Nightrose | garage_tech: look at lists of previous orgs and see if any of them look interesting |
| 14:54.39 | Nightrose | or wait until the list for 2011 is published and do the same |
| 14:55.16 | Nightrose | or tell what you are interested in and maybe someone here knows which orgs might fit |
| 14:55.39 | Nightrose | but i'd recommend looking at the lists since there might be things you are interested in but don't think of |
| 14:56.39 | gevaerts | Of course remember that any organisation that's on the 2010 list may not be there this year |
| 14:57.09 | garage_tech | Nightrose: exactly its like when i see something it attracts me but i cant figure out whether it is really what i want to do |
| 14:57.38 | Nightrose | ah then best talk to the orgs that sound good |
| 14:57.45 | Nightrose | hang out in their irc channel or mailing list |
| 14:57.52 | Nightrose | get a feeling for what they do and how they work |
| 14:57.58 | Nightrose | and how they tick :D |
| 14:58.32 | gevaerts | garage_tech: I've never been a student in gsoc, but my open source experience in general has been to use something and be slightly unhappy with it, just enough to want to fix it but not enough to drop it entirely. |
| 14:59.44 | garage_tech | gevaerts: So this is how you started as a open source contributor? |
| 15:00.06 | gevaerts | In my experience that's the best way to both find out if you like the community and code, *and* to gain respect within that community |
| 15:00.10 | gevaerts | yes |
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| 15:02.46 | gevaerts | You can of course see it as ust a job, where you work on what you're given, but you'll have less fun, the organisation you work for has less benefit (because you're less likely to stick around after gsoc), and you're less likely to get selected in the first place |
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| 15:04.18 | garage_tech | gevaerts: Do you mean that I am late in submitting patches etc, to show my skills |
| 15:04.30 | garage_tech | i havent submitted nay till now |
| 15:04.33 | gevaerts | no |
| 15:04.36 | garage_tech | any* |
| 15:05.18 | gevaerts | You have to convince mentor organisations by April 22 |
| 15:05.47 | gevaerts | That's still a while away |
| 15:07.22 | garage_tech | Nightrose: gevaerts: I am interested in keyword extraction, etc and know C/C++ |
| 15:07.24 | gevaerts | I'd say you have to make up your mind about which one to (say) three organisations you're interested in by the end of March, and I'd definitely say that if you don't have previous open source experience you shouldn't wait another month to start doing things |
| 15:07.39 | garage_tech | C/C++(intermediate) and php (beginner) |
| 15:08.25 | Nightrose | hmmm from the kde side i could point you to nepomuk maybe |
| 15:08.35 | Nightrose | other orgs i don't know |
| 15:08.57 | garage_tech | Nightrose: thanks :) |
| 15:09.01 | Nightrose | yw |
| 15:10.38 | garage_tech | I like Mozilla , because i use its products , so i think I should start submitting patches for some bugs in bugzilla |
| 15:10.59 | gevaerts | Oh, while of course you should focus on the projects you want to apply to for gsoc, I'd recommend getting involved in general. Next time a program you use crashes or doesn't have a feature you want, spend half an hour to see if you can figure out how to fix that, and if you see a way, spend a few hours to actually do it |
| 15:11.22 | gevaerts | Or yes, look at bugtrackers |
| 15:13.00 | garage_tech | i find that the Skype extension in both firefox and chrome behaves weird sometimes and has lead to craches on more than one occasions, should I talk to mozilla about this |
| 15:13.20 | gevaerts | Or try to help users, although make *sure* you give correct advice. There's nothing that annoys (some) developers more than people who keep giving bad advice |
| 15:13.56 | gevaerts | garage_tech: is that extension open source? |
| 15:14.33 | garage_tech | by 'users' you mean other developers on this channel? |
| 15:15.23 | gevaerts | No, I mean users of the software you want to work on for gsoc |
| 15:15.44 | garage_tech | How do i meet these users |
| 15:15.51 | gevaerts | Depends on the project |
| 15:16.04 | gevaerts | Forums, irc, mailing lists, the usual :) |
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| 15:17.14 | garage_tech | gevaerts: i dont know if the skype extension is open source |
| 15:17.23 | gevaerts | Then find out :( |
| 15:17.26 | gevaerts | oops |
| 15:17.27 | gevaerts | :) |
| 15:17.38 | gevaerts | If it's not, there's not much you can do |
| 15:18.14 | gevaerts | sometimes hates it that the ( and ) keys are so close to each other |
| 15:19.35 | garage_tech | haha :) |
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| 15:20.55 | garage_tech | how do i find if the skype extension is open source? |
| 15:21.41 | shadeslayer | iirc they killed the skype extension for FF |
| 15:21.43 | tomazk | so are there any future 2011 mentors lurking here? |
| 15:21.49 | shadeslayer | rather skype blocked it |
| 15:23.02 | garage_tech | yeah skype code is closed, found out |
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| 16:27.33 | adixx | are there any network security mentors out here? |
| 16:28.01 | adixx | ? |
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| 16:41.09 | adixx | hello guys, is there anyone into network security here |
| 16:41.11 | adixx | ? |
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