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| 13:20.24 | Waren | yo |
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| 14:51.39 | kai | sighs |
| 14:52.37 | kai | web development _and_ databases... I should have stayed in bed today |
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| 14:58.26 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 14:58.31 | thebolt | kai: yes.. that sounds painful :P |
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| 15:19.39 | skfin | Quite a lot developers thinks that web development is awful, but they dont respect web developers so much. Weird. |
| 15:19.54 | skfin | I dont think that web development is awful |
| 15:20.09 | skfin | It just can be really annoying |
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| 15:23.45 | kai | skfin: it's hard to respect people who tell me they reinvent the wheel on auth mechanisms every time they need one, and still call their framework "complete" |
| 15:24.35 | skfin | :D |
| 15:25.03 | kai | as a system developer, I know that the first rule of developing authentication systems is "don't" |
| 15:25.19 | skfin | :) |
| 15:25.46 | skfin | kai: Well, all I can say is good luck |
| 15:26.49 | thebolt | kai: second rule is "don't yet"? ;) |
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| 15:36.46 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Who does that?? I'm a webdev and the only messing I've done with auth on my current framework was custom role assignments |
| 15:37.16 | sfb | Spring-Security? |
| 15:39.08 | sfb | <3 Spring-Security |
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| 16:02.03 | kai | thebolt: no, that's optimization. for authentication systems it's 'see rule 1' |
| 16:02.51 | kai | MatthewWilkes: when I started wombat some years ago, that's what people on the #pylons IRC channel all told me |
| 16:04.14 | MatthewWilkes | Pylons reimplements itself every year |
| 16:05.31 | kai | possibly |
| 16:05.52 | kai | I probably wouldn't pick it again if I rewrote wombat |
| 16:06.16 | kai | but I didn't get a GSoC student to reimplement wombat using another framework last year :) |
| 16:09.20 | kai | prodds sqlalchemy and wonders why queue updates from one process to the other work and I need to close() my session the other way around |
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| 20:21.12 | carols | serves tea and peppermint bark |
| 20:22.31 | gevaerts | decides to find out if the bark is really worse than the bite, so he grabs some |
| 20:22.33 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 20:22.43 | gevaerts | It's not :) |
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| 20:29.47 | carols | i see what you did there, gevaerts :-P |
| 20:31.10 | gevaerts | I hoped you would :) |
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| 20:51.40 | skfin | smells tea, thats not good for me, where is coffee? |
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| 21:56.14 | Nightrose | carols: i just saw the cfp for grace hopper 2011 and was wondering if you'd be interested in doing a talk together about gsoc/code-in |
| 21:56.29 | Nightrose | and if you are interested if you know other women who'd be interested |
| 21:56.59 | carols | Nightrose: would love to! i think cat is probably thinking something similar as well for next year - the response to this year's OS track was great |
| 21:57.01 | Nightrose | they seem to have a requirement that it's not only about one project/company/org so i can't do a mentoring in kde proposal it seems |
| 21:57.06 | Nightrose | awesome |
| 21:57.37 | Nightrose | i'll put it on my todo list then |
| 21:57.42 | carols | Nightrose: want to start an email thread with us? |
| 21:57.44 | carols | great |
| 21:57.53 | Nightrose | yes will do |
| 21:58.02 | carols | thanks, happy frieday :-) |
| 21:58.04 | carols | friday even |
| 21:58.17 | Nightrose | heh thx - i have a case of tgif |
| 21:58.39 | carols | me too |
| 22:00.39 | Nightrose | will have some hot chocolate and soup - makes the day so much better instantly :D |
| 22:00.48 | carols | that sounds amazing |
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