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| 02:24.24 | darklrd | hi is any1 online?? |
| 02:25.21 | darklrd | i just wanted to know where do and when do i have to submit my code? |
| 02:25.55 | bkgood_ | darklrd: code submissions aren't active till the end of the month |
| 02:26.17 | bkgood_ | check out carol's email about code submissions |
| 02:26.47 | darklrd | bkgood_: so we have to just fill up the evaluation form right now? |
| 02:26.59 | bkgood_ | darklrd: yep |
| 02:27.19 | darklrd | bkgood_: and code submissions will start from 30th aug |
| 02:27.20 | darklrd | ? |
| 02:27.28 | bkgood_ | I think that's the date |
| 02:27.40 | darklrd | bkgood_: thanks a lot! :) |
| 02:27.53 | bkgood_ | np :) |
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| 06:21.41 | qrng | Morning. |
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| 07:01.40 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 07:35.05 | kblin | morning indeed |
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| 08:02.21 | thebolt | how do you do? |
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| 08:09.15 | kblin | thebolt: fine, can't really complain |
| 08:09.28 | kblin | apart from the fact that farnell is slow in producing hawkboards |
| 08:09.48 | thebolt | hehe |
| 08:09.49 | kblin | I was supposed to get mine mid-august, and now the new date they gave me is september 10th |
| 08:10.34 | kblin | given that I'm flying out to SF to present my supposedly-hawkboard-based gadget on the 16th, that's a bit tight |
| 08:10.43 | thebolt | haha, good luck :) |
| 08:11.41 | kblin | so I'll have to go and build the prototype with my beagle, I guess |
| 08:11.42 | Ivanovic | kblin: hey, relax, for my pandora it took just "2 month" till it is delivered |
| 08:11.58 | Ivanovic | for some 1.7 years... |
| 08:12.08 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 08:12.47 | kblin | Ivanovic: but you didn't propose a talk based on technology you didn't know/own, did you? |
| 08:13.00 | Ivanovic | of course i did not! |
| 08:13.03 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 08:13.35 | kblin | see, I did, seeing how the product I wanted to work with actually existed already |
| 08:14.08 | kblin | arguably, I initially wanted to use a guruplug, and then decided to go for less-broken hardware |
| 08:14.20 | Ivanovic | okay, when i preordered the pandora they had a rev1 board and a plan how the case should look like |
| 08:14.35 | Ivanovic | no moulds and in fact even the board went through several more revisions... |
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| 08:19.47 | qrng | stretches. |
| 08:20.03 | qrng | So it's today that we get our last payments? |
| 08:23.25 | kblin | !timeline |
| 08:23.27 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 08:23.30 | kblin | ^^^ |
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| 08:25.18 | qrng | Google begins issuing student and mentoring organization payments provided forms and evaluations are on file. |
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| 08:25.50 | qrng | Ah, I am so waiting to move the money. :-D |
| 08:27.11 | kblin | kids these days |
| 08:27.36 | qrng | What? Money is important, too. |
| 08:30.30 | kblin | sure |
| 08:30.57 | kblin | I still run the hardware I got from my gsoc 2005 money |
| 08:31.55 | MatthewWilkes | Impressive |
| 08:32.02 | qrng | Yeah, and I need funds to move to Denmark. |
| 08:32.16 | MatthewWilkes | I just became a convert to the church of SSDs, it really does revitalise a dead laptop |
| 08:32.43 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: well, arguably I recently passed on the R52 laotop to a friend of mine, but it's still working |
| 08:32.48 | ThomasWaldmann | moin |
| 08:33.04 | SukhE | qrng, Carol said in her email (5th Aug): Payments will be made after 19:30 UTC on 20 August, which means they will be effective on your cards on or after Tuesday, 24 August. |
| 08:33.32 | kblin | and I still run the arm64 shuttle I got for development back then |
| 08:33.45 | qrng | SukhE: That's fine. |
| 08:33.56 | ThomasWaldmann | MatthewWilkes: welcome to the church of SSDs :D |
| 08:34.29 | ThomasWaldmann | (speeds up almost new, power-saving laptops, too :) |
| 08:34.33 | MatthewWilkes | ThomasWaldmann: I named him Wong |
| 08:35.01 | MatthewWilkes | I had been thinking about buying a new lappy, but I've got a 3 year old Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz with 4gb RAM, a significant upgrade would cost a fortune |
| 08:35.32 | ThomasWaldmann | has a 1yo with 2x1.2GHz :P |
| 08:37.38 | ThomasWaldmann | btw, has someone used codility? |
| 08:38.20 | MatthewWilkes | is that some sort of fish management programme? |
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| 08:41.27 | ThomasWaldmann | MatthewWilkes: only if you want fishy developers |
| 08:41.49 | MatthewWilkes | not cod + utility then? :) |
| 08:42.34 | ThomasWaldmann | heard a europython 2010 talk about it and it looked like it could be used for SOC student selection |
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| 08:43.49 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: what does it do? |
| 08:44.11 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: spy on them to figure out if they also accepted another job? :) |
| 08:45.14 | kblin | omg |
| 08:45.26 | kblin | Enterprize Architecture spam |
| 08:45.28 | kblin | again |
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| 08:52.02 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: it's online, codility.com |
| 08:53.25 | qrng | chortles. |
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| 08:53.37 | qrng | Sounds amusing. :-) |
| 08:54.19 | qrng | Not in a bad way, though. |
| 08:54.30 | kblin | meh |
| 08:54.51 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: I think I'll stick to my own tests |
| 08:55.16 | kblin | that forces students to actually look at the codebase they'll be working with later on |
| 08:56.02 | MatthewWilkes | the detected time complexity thing is cool |
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| 09:03.29 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: yes, that's better |
| 09:04.02 | ThomasWaldmann | otoh, if people are fresh to the project, you maybe don't want to require codebase knowledge for tests |
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| 09:08.02 | ojwb | seeing how well they can find their way into an existing codebase can be revealing though |
| 09:10.29 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: ok, after trying out the europython challenge, I think the UI is pretty nice |
| 09:11.09 | kblin | though the test was a bit on the easy side |
| 09:11.26 | ThomasWaldmann | one maybe doesn't want to use it as the only test, but I guess it could be useful, esp. for bigger orgs, who have to look at many students |
| 09:11.38 | kblin | actually s/easy/university test-like/ |
| 09:12.12 | kblin | I've never really encountered "turn this mathematical formula into code"-like problems outside university |
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| 09:12.47 | ThomasWaldmann | to filter out the lower half who can't really write reasonable code |
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| 09:13.27 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: finding some tests that can be done in a rather limited time is not easy |
| 09:13.45 | kblin | I know, we've tried ourselves, after all |
| 09:13.54 | ThomasWaldmann | esp. if it should be rather generic, not requiring special knowledge of some project |
| 09:14.05 | kblin | they're all pretty artificial |
| 09:17.57 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: anyway, thanks for the pointer |
| 09:18.14 | kblin | it won't hurt as an extra test |
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| 09:41.55 | qrng | Err... what's this test you're talking about? |
| 09:44.01 | ojwb | qrng: many orgs give applicants a "qualifying task" |
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| 09:51.36 | thebolt | ah, meetings meetings.. |
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| 10:27.14 | qrng | ojwb: Ah, I simply wrote one quasi-random number generator, wrote sample docs and then applied for GSoC. |
| 10:27.48 | qrng | My future mentor could evaluate the work already done and then he knew in advance that I could deliver. |
| 10:28.15 | ojwb | it's up to the org how they select, but it sounds like if your org did qualifying tasks, you picked yours for yourself! |
| 10:29.03 | ojwb | and that showed you can think for yourself too |
| 10:29.53 | qrng | Well, I knew what I wanted to do. |
| 10:29.54 | qrng | shrugs. |
| 10:30.17 | qrng | I would have written those generators anyway. |
| 10:32.09 | Ivanovic | it would not be too smart from orgs if they don't ask for any sample work |
| 10:32.31 | Ivanovic | sure, almost anyone can get a good concept done even when not knowing how to code |
| 10:32.39 | Ivanovic | but SoC is about producing working code |
| 10:32.47 | ojwb | some still don't apparently |
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