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| 05:51.27 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 06:44.45 | qrng | Good morning! |
| 06:44.54 | timotei | morning qrng |
| 06:44.58 | qrng | And this morning is exceptionally beautiful. |
| 06:45.24 | qrng | A perfect morning to open a bottle of fine champagne. |
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| 06:53.44 | dholbach | good morning |
| 06:58.01 | qrng | nods. |
| 06:58.17 | qrng | Have a glass of champagne, m'dear. What a fine morning. |
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| 07:08.22 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 07:09.56 | kblin | morning thebolt |
| 07:15.20 | comodo | good morning, everyone |
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| 07:44.11 | thebolt | hi kblin , how do you do? |
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| 07:50.25 | qrng | Greetings, thebolt. |
| 07:50.41 | qrng | How's your GSoC project going? |
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| 07:52.52 | thebolt | not at all, as I am not in gsoc thsi year (and earlier years i have been mentor and admin) |
| 07:52.55 | thebolt | ;) |
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| 07:59.19 | qrng | I see. |
| 07:59.44 | qrng | Being a student is certainly more advantageous. |
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| 08:06.49 | kblin | thebolt: so-so, can't complain too much |
| 08:10.02 | thebolt | qrng: well, in "real world" I am a student ;) |
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| 08:11.31 | kblin | qrng: dunno, both is an interesting experience |
| 08:11.39 | kblin | pay is better than a student, of course |
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| 08:14.07 | kblin | qrng: but work hours are better as mentor, and you might get to go to the mentor summit, which is the most fun conference I've ever been to |
| 08:15.43 | thebolt | agrees on the mentor summit |
| 08:17.22 | Ivanovic | too |
| 08:17.28 | scorche | four |
| 08:18.12 | thebolt | If I had time this year I would have been a mentor just to be able to go there ;) |
| 08:18.58 | kblin | :D |
| 08:21.22 | thebolt | unfortunately i didn't have time during this summer, and i don't have time in october :/ |
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| 08:29.00 | Ivanovic | unfortunately there are too many people in wesnoths team so that it is unlikely for me to go this year |
| 08:29.10 | Ivanovic | (yeah, we switch between those that participate) |
| 08:30.25 | thebolt | yea, might be up to enough mentors now that might be interested in going |
| 08:30.55 | thebolt | first two years nobody else was interested at all.. then for two years it has been me + one more (different people though) |
| 08:34.09 | dm9 | Mentor summit? |
| 08:34.14 | dm9 | what is this |
| 08:34.40 | gevaerts | You throw all mentors on a big heap, and the one on top is the mentor summit |
| 08:34.54 | dm9 | hm |
| 08:35.05 | dm9 | are students participate in it? |
| 08:35.51 | thebolt | no, listen to the name.. _mentor_ summit.. an unconference for mentors (and admins) |
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| 08:36.33 | dm9 | I was a bit confused with the previous messages, ok |
| 08:36.34 | dm9 | = |
| 08:36.35 | dm9 | =) |
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| 08:48.01 | qrng | kblin: Well, I don't count work hours very precisely, I just do what needs to be done. |
| 08:48.20 | qrng | Anyhow, things take some time. |
| 08:49.17 | qrng | Look at this and guess how much time it takes to write this: http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost/sandbox/SOC/2010/quasi_random/boost/random/detail/integer_powers.hpp |
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| 08:57.46 | qrng | With a properly optimizing compiler, this header gives you O(1) integer_pow<Base>(arg) |
| 08:58.00 | qrng | and O(log n) logarithm. |
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| 08:58.53 | qrng | Also, this is portable. |
| 08:59.56 | qrng | Beats naive implementations by a biiiiiig margin. Orders of magnitude. |
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| 09:03.49 | kblin | hard to tell, though |
| 09:04.09 | kblin | any naive implementation can be as bad as possible |
| 09:04.44 | gevaerts | uses bogopow() |
| 09:04.56 | kblin | I've seen n^2 array searches, but I bet I can implement a version that's worse :) |
| 09:05.29 | gevaerts | Of course you can! |
| 09:05.47 | gevaerts | The trivial way is to just run it twice to make sure :) |
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| 09:07.11 | kblin | also sometimes the language plays tricks on you. |
| 09:07.58 | kblin | cPython's list().remove() is really slow |
| 09:08.15 | kblin | took me a profiler to figure out that was hurting my code's performance |
| 09:09.36 | ojwb | just running it twice is no good - if the answers aren't the same, you've no idea which is right |
| 09:10.54 | gevaerts | Yes, you're right. You run it five times, compiled with five different compilers on five different architectures (probably emulated) :) |
| 09:11.22 | gevaerts | You'll still lose against smart people who use n^n implementations though |
| 09:15.13 | kblin | I wonder how hard it is to get a search that still looks reasonable but needs O(n!!) |
| 09:16.13 | gevaerts | That's going to get tricky |
| 09:16.57 | thebolt | gevaerts: that doesn't change the complexity though ;) |
| 09:17.01 | thebolt | kblin: hm.. |
| 09:19.37 | thebolt | kblin: even a bogosort is only O(n*n!) |
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| 09:20.00 | thebolt | (quantum bogosort is O(n) sorting ;) |
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| 09:28.36 | comodo | we got to test a sorting algorithm with O(n!) in one of our courses... extremely useless |
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| 09:29.56 | gevaerts | thebolt: bogosort isn't actually bounded, so I'm not sure if that O(n*n!) is really true |
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| 09:36.10 | thebolt | gevaerts: i think the analysis is based on statistical average analysis |
| 09:36.19 | thebolt | (ie not worst case) |
| 09:36.54 | gevaerts | thebolt: yes, but the worst case here is infinite. Doesn't that change the average in annoying ways? |
| 09:37.15 | gevaerts | Not that it matters much. I don't use bogosort() often |
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| 09:38.11 | thebolt | no, you can still calculate average (ok, expected value) for something that occasionally is infinite |
| 09:38.31 | thebolt | the gaussian distribution is non-zero all the way up to infinite, but still has an expected value ;) |
| 09:39.08 | gevaerts | True |
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| 09:40.22 | gevaerts | Except you can't use the gaussian distribution for expected running times, but that's a detail of course. There will be another distribution you *can* use with the same properties in the positive-infinity direction |
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| 09:45.25 | thebolt | gevaerts: yea, it was just a general example that some probability for infinite does not mean it does not have an expected value/average |
| 09:45.35 | thebolt | replace gaussian with chi-squared ;) |
| 09:45.41 | gevaerts | does so :) |
| 09:47.22 | qrng | gevaerts: The probabilistic space (O, F, lambda) is still very much integrable. |
| 09:48.36 | qrng | And if you integrate this Integral_O f dlambda, where lambda is the Lebesgue measure and f a variable on this space, you get what you would call "an average". |
| 09:48.42 | gevaerts | needs to pay more attention to his mathematics skills |
| 09:51.54 | qrng | nods. |
| 09:52.10 | thebolt | qrng: given that it converges (which it does not have to do..) |
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| 09:52.37 | thebolt | (like a Cauchy-Lorentz distribution.. ) |
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| 10:23.01 | qrng | thebolt: Well noted. |
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| 10:34.05 | thebolt | qrng: my teacher just loved to give us problems like that when i took stochastic processes.. having non-integratable stuff etc and make us show that etc :/ also a like of his were probability distribution functions (or and other functions in L2 or Lp spaces) that are integratable but undefined at coutably infinite number of points :P |
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| 11:41.59 | qrng | thebolt: Let's not make poor gevaerts more distressed about his maths than he should be. I think those chapters are better left to be discussed with a more thus inclined public. |
| 11:42.47 | thebolt | qrng: aww.. ;) well, i for one am usually pretty pragmatic for maths (after all, I am an electronics engineer..).. if it worsk it is probably ok ;) |
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| 11:44.47 | gevaerts | just ignores qrng :) |
| 11:49.48 | thebolt | heh |
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| 17:11.36 | tori | How established does an FOSS project need to be in order to be accepted by GSoC as a mentoring organization? |
| 17:12.22 | carols | tori: you might want to look over this doc: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/orgcriteria |
| 17:12.46 | tori | Carols, thanks for the link. I'll look it over. |
| 17:12.52 | carols | yw |
| 17:12.58 | kblin | hi carols |
| 17:13.02 | carols | hi kblin |
| 17:13.02 | kblin | how's life? |
| 17:13.10 | carols | good, how are you? |
| 17:13.13 | thebolt | hi carols , hi again kblin ;) |
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| 17:13.18 | carols | hey thebolt |
| 17:13.27 | carols | serves tea, coffee, and cookies |
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| 17:13.36 | carols | we seem to have gathered a crowd :-) |
| 17:13.55 | Catfish_Man | hi folks |
| 17:13.57 | kblin | carols: so so right now, the wetware is acting up |
| 17:14.02 | kblin | hey Catfish_Man |
| 17:14.28 | carols | kblin: sorry to hear that |
| 17:16.55 | kblin | ah, I'll survive and will be good in time for my trip to california |
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| 17:19.01 | kblin | and you've got mail, glad to be of service |
| 17:19.15 | carols | thanks again kblin :-) |
| 17:19.25 | Catfish_Man | kblin: will you be by the bay area? |
| 17:19.26 | carols | when do you arrive in CA, btw? |
| 17:19.32 | carols | what Catfish_Man said :-) |
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| 17:20.51 | kblin | Catfish_Man, carols: I'll be arriving on thu, sept 16, some time in the evening |
| 17:21.14 | carols | cool. :-) CA is looking forward to having you |
| 17:21.27 | kblin | flying out again to see yet another evil empire close to seattle |
| 17:21.35 | kblin | on the 24th |
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| 17:25.16 | thebolt | kblin: an evil empire whos software you spend considerable time making sure people can be compatible/interact/communicate with? :P |
| 17:26.04 | kblin | yeah. they invited us over to make sure we can be a better competition |
| 17:26.31 | kblin | I didn't have time the last two years, but I made time this year |
| 17:26.37 | Catfish_Man | hm, I have a house guest that week. Still, could probably meet up for dinner or some such if you're interested in hanging out |
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| 17:27.23 | kblin | Catfish_Man: sure, I'll be in santa clara from saturday-friday, but I've got a car |
| 17:28.34 | kblin | I'll be in SF thu-fri before that |
| 17:31.50 | thebolt | hm, just realized this will be the first year since 2004 or so that I don't go to US once during the year.. |
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| 17:40.41 | kblin | thebolt: you know, when the german gouvernment decided to introduce passports that included fingerprints five years ago, I hurried to get a passport before that deadline. |
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| 17:41.08 | kblin | thebolt: but now that the US has my fingerprints, I have less isssues with providing them to my own gouvernment as well |
| 17:42.09 | thebolt | kblin: hehe, nowdays US takes 5-finger, right? |
| 17:42.14 | thebolt | (or well, 10 finger even) |
| 17:42.29 | gevaerts | You're allowed to keep a few I think |
| 17:42.32 | kblin | they do? last year they were happy with my index fingers |
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| 17:42.45 | thebolt | hm, maybe it was some other country then.. but I wonder where I went then ;) |
| 17:42.53 | kblin | for the german passports, you get to pick your finger |
| 17:43.00 | thebolt | ah :) |
| 17:43.10 | kblin | I actually considered using the middle fingers for a while |
| 17:43.18 | thebolt | my passport is good for another 3 years (valid to 2013) |
| 17:43.28 | thebolt | i got a 10 year one the only year i could |
| 17:43.46 | thebolt | (the year i turned 18.. and year after they changed all passports to be max 5 years) |
| 17:44.04 | kblin | mine's running out in september, so I needed a new one |
| 17:44.31 | kblin | I need a pouch that stops RFID spillage, though |
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| 17:44.45 | kblin | an antistatic ziplock bag might do |
| 17:44.49 | thebolt | i just need to make sure i get to keep my old passport when i get a new one |
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| 17:45.08 | thebolt | many stamps and forms in there with memories :) |
| 17:45.15 | kblin | :) |
| 17:46.51 | kblin | mine is a bit boring |
| 17:47.46 | thebolt | hehe |
| 17:49.09 | kblin | 5 stamps from US immigration and one from the dutch antilles |
| 17:49.22 | thebolt | :) |
| 17:50.08 | thebolt | 7 or 8 from US, 10 entry/exit stamps + my first resident visa from Taiwan (soon another resident visa I hope... ), short-time entry visas + stamps from japan, malaysia and philippines |
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| 17:51.09 | kblin | I'm hoping to finally get a talk accepted at LCA |
| 17:51.26 | kblin | so I can add an aussie set of stamps to the new one |
| 17:51.29 | thebolt | i have been thinking about getting a new one before i get a new taiwanese visa.. (somewhat running out of pages in my current) |
| 17:51.34 | thebolt | but not sure i have the time now |
| 17:52.04 | valeuf | thebolt: what are you doing in Taiwan? |
| 17:52.07 | kblin | when do you need to apply for that? |
| 17:52.19 | thebolt | kblin: for the visa? probably i have another month before i have to |
| 17:52.38 | bkgood | kblin: the us took your fingerprints at border patrol? |
| 17:52.44 | thebolt | valeuf: right now I am not there.. but i will be working for a swedish company and study chinese (is the plan.. if work doesn't work out in the end i'll study chinese for a year and then reevaluate ;) |
| 17:52.55 | kblin | bkgood: that and a photo |
| 17:53.08 | valeuf | thebolt: where will you study chinese? did you already choose institue or university? |
| 17:53.16 | bkgood | kblin: and I thought it was bad for us citizens :x |
| 17:53.26 | valeuf | thebolt: I spent a summer school at the the NTU there, it has been one of my best summer ^ ^ |
| 17:53.33 | thebolt | valeuf: ah |
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| 17:53.40 | thebolt | valeuf: i was one year at NTHU (in Hsinchu) last year |
| 17:53.50 | kblin | bkgood: it's worse if your skin color isn't the right tint |
| 17:53.52 | thebolt | (exchange student, 4th year of my MSc in EE) |
| 17:54.13 | thebolt | and yea, it was my best year ever, which is one of the reasons i want to go back :) |
| 17:54.20 | thebolt | (also it is where i have most of my friends still ;) |
| 17:54.40 | kblin | bkgood: if you're black or look southern/middle american, you're in for even more fun questions |
| 17:54.41 | bkgood | kblin: no doubt, but I'm a white 21-year-old uni-educated male and I still get questioned like a criminal by my own government, it's sickening really |
| 17:54.54 | thebolt | valeuf: what did you do at NTU? |
| 17:55.25 | valeuf | thebolt: summer school, I worked in a laboratory for 2 months, with a scholarship from the Taiwan National Council of Science |
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| 17:55.34 | kblin | bkgood: that said, sometimes the folks at border partrol are very friendly while going all gestapo on you |
| 17:56.05 | thebolt | valeuf: ah, cool |
| 17:56.09 | kblin | bkgood: I've had my least pleasant encounters with border patrol officers in germany, with germans, as a german |
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| 17:56.35 | valeuf | thebolt: good lucke to write the traditional chinese ideograms, it was horrible for me ^^ |
| 17:56.38 | thebolt | valeuf: okay, nice :) |
| 17:56.51 | thebolt | valeuf: hehe, i did take a couple of classes in chinese when i was there last time |
| 17:57.00 | thebolt | forgot most of it, especially hand-writing :P |
| 17:57.20 | bkgood | kblin: haha yeah I'm a bit more okay with it when they're polite, and I understand the customs and agricultural implications of their questions (once I had to have my shoes washed after visting England and walking through a pasture there) but the personal questions seem invasive |
| 17:57.24 | thebolt | reading and writing on computer is a bit better.. but yea, language is hard :P |
| 17:57.43 | valeuf | thebolt: needs a really strong memory |
| 17:57.53 | thebolt | valeuf: and loads and loads of exercising :P |
| 17:58.00 | thebolt | which is why i forgot most this year.. didn't practice |
| 17:58.05 | kblin | bkgood: what personal questions do they ask from US citizens? |
| 17:58.32 | bkgood | things like why were you where you were, what did you do, etc. |
| 17:58.44 | kblin | I just have to fill out a visa waiver stating I won't shoot the president, deal drugs, or kidnap kids and the like |
| 17:58.47 | thebolt | valeuf: where are you from originally, if i may ask? |
| 17:59.04 | thebolt | kblin: and that you weren't part of the nazis in 1940s etc ;) |
| 17:59.10 | kblin | yeah |
| 17:59.14 | kblin | but that's easy |
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| 17:59.20 | valeuf | thebolt: France |
| 17:59.35 | bkgood | yeah just show your date of birth is <=1940 |
| 17:59.36 | bkgood | lol |
| 17:59.55 | thebolt | valeuf: ah, I see.. knew some french people in taiwan last year.. hm, one of them were there last summer and half autumn as well |
| 18:00.10 | kblin | bkgood: that, and you need to check "no" on all the questions anyway |
| 18:00.21 | thebolt | valeuf: but i guess there are more french people than swedish people in taiwan ;) (there are somewhere between 200 and 250 swedish people in taiwan) |
| 18:00.54 | valeuf | thebolt: ah ah easy to organize a party at the "embassy"( I guess you are like French people, you don't call it embassy :p ) |
| 18:01.08 | kblin | bkgood: and of course they ask what you're planning to do in the US, not where you're coming from |
| 18:01.09 | thebolt | valeuf: hehe yep |
| 18:01.13 | thebolt | valeuf: swedish trade council |
| 18:01.27 | valeuf | thebolt: For us it is a Culture Center :D |
| 18:01.32 | thebolt | valeuf: i see :) |
| 18:01.45 | valeuf | thebolt: even if at there culture looks more like visa, and other trade affairs :p |
| 18:01.47 | bkgood | kblin: I find that reasonable; taking prints, not so much |
| 18:01.56 | thebolt | valeuf: :) |
| 18:02.05 | bkgood | photos are meh because they could pull if off your passport anyway |
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| 18:02.52 | kblin | bkgood: fingerprints as well, on my new passport |
| 18:03.11 | bkgood | kblin: well that's your government's fault :) |
| 18:03.43 | thebolt | kblin: if i get a new one i have to put fingerprints on there as well |
| 18:03.48 | thebolt | bkgood: EU regulations i think |
| 18:04.00 | kblin | yeah, because the USA whined long and hard enough |
| 18:04.36 | bkgood | yes because _so_ many of our criminals and terrorists are EU visitors :rolleyes: |
| 18:05.06 | kblin | I wonder how long you can refuse the backscatter X-ray thing, though |
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| 18:13.05 | kblin | bkgood: it's security theatre, anyway.. all the "success stories" so far have been non-terrorist criminals |
| 18:14.01 | bkgood | kblin: probably at least partly because terrorists are far less common than normal criminals, and better funded :) |
| 18:15.47 | kblin | bkgood: not sure about the funded part, but I agree on the commonness |
| 18:16.41 | bkgood | well I guess there are the organized criminals, although those are probably terrorists in their own right (mob, mafia etc) |
| 18:16.54 | kblin | though of course you can argue that following the "crime doesn't pay, if it does it's not called crime anymore" rule, the better funded ones aren't criminals :) |
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| 18:17.12 | bkgood | the distinction is really only political, used by politicians to gain votes and power |
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| 18:19.43 | kblin | bkgood: you know the really sad part? The EU is getting rid of privacy rights so fast that soon moving to a country where the fact that most of the citizens have guns at home puts a natural stop to how many of their rights you can take away sound like a really good idea |
| 18:20.35 | bkgood | kblin: having guns has done nothing to stop the loss of privacy in the United States, we've given it away freely |
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| 18:22.02 | kblin | yeah, didn't say it stopped yet |
| 18:23.06 | kblin | but germany's a bit too good at this gestapo crap, we invented it |
| 18:23.11 | bkgood | yet? pssh the right to own firearms is probably the only one still really held dear |
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| 18:23.34 | kblin | bkgood: one more than here then :) |
| 18:23.52 | bkgood | even freedom of religion is on its way out, the majority is converging on one non-inclusive denomination of christianity (if you can call it that) |
| 18:24.07 | bkgood | kblin: well that's a scary thought indeed |
| 18:24.09 | bkgood | :) |
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| 18:31.15 | schumaml | in order to reduce the number of privately owned firearms, I'd just introduce yearly compulsory handling and safety exercises for $$$ each :) |
| 18:31.51 | kblin | that's probably against the constitution |
| 18:32.08 | kblin | look how the brits are just waiting to get their colony back |
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| 18:33.44 | schumaml | referring to the "if we can't get you back, we'll at least wreck your environment" approach? |
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| 18:37.48 | kblin | no, according to what I saw on fox news, that's entirely obama's fault |
| 18:38.54 | kblin | a texan would have known how to handle the oil industry business |
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| 19:01.49 | dberkholz | fox may not be the most objective source for reliable information |
| 19:02.05 | thebolt | what? are you sure? :) |
| 19:02.19 | schumaml | oh noes! |
| 19:03.14 | schumaml | http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news |
| 19:03.54 | thebolt | schumaml: well, technically it was a company with HQ in Switzerland (but with its roots in Alabama) |
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| 22:47.20 | RoAkSoAx | carols: Hi there. I received your email about submitting the code and that Organizations are the ones who have to create the project hsoting site. However, according to [0], does this means that they will also have to add each student to the proejct hosting to be able to upload the code as per "All students receiving passing final evaluations will be added as members to the project for their particular organization and can begin uploading their code samp |
| 22:47.59 | carols | RoAkSoAx: sure, if your org needs to add you they can do that |
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| 22:50.32 | RoAkSoAx | carols: right, but due to CPT I'm officially ending the GSoC by the 7th, and you todl me that I would have needed to provide a copy of my code to you by that date, so I though that those project sites would have been created by then |
| 22:50.41 | RoAkSoAx | never though that our organizations where the ones who have to do that |
| 22:50.51 | RoAkSoAx | anyways, I'll ping them to do so and provide my code |
| 22:51.07 | carols | RoAkSoAx: it takes on the order of 3 minutes to create a new project. probably an extra minute to add a member. i dont think its an issue. |
| 22:51.53 | RoAkSoAx | carols: oh no not at all, I was clearing my doubts because I though that was handled by you guys instead of our organizations :) |
| 22:52.15 | carols | RoAkSoAx: it is, and will be. however you are on an accelerated timeline and so in a different bucket |
| 22:52.55 | RoAkSoAx | carols: indeed. Anywas, I'll ask them to do so. Thank you! |
| 22:52.59 | carols | yw |
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| 23:11.05 | mkarnicki | !timeline |
| 23:11.06 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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