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| 05:24.49 | qrng | Good morning. |
| 05:27.37 | svaksha | good morning qrng |
| 05:29.28 | kblin | morning |
| 05:29.54 | qrng | nods. |
| 05:30.21 | qrng | Only a fortnight left. |
| 05:30.59 | thebolt | Morning |
| 05:31.13 | thebolt | bah, really really bad weather today :( |
| 05:32.00 | qrng | Really really good weather today; reminds me of one novel -- "Sold summers". |
| 05:32.19 | qrng | The title itself is very explanatory. |
| 05:33.19 | thebolt | :) technically the weather doesn't matter that much.. have to sit indoors working independently.. but more boring to get to work and had to cancel my morning exercise.. |
| 05:33.57 | qrng | I've never exercised a day in my life. |
| 05:35.17 | qrng | Alors. |
| 05:36.02 | qrng | I've added a rather illustrative graph concerning QRNGs: http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost/sandbox/SOC/2010/quasi_random/libs/random/example/cauchy_crofton_convergence.png |
| 05:36.20 | qrng | Somebody asked what's the point of them. |
| 05:37.38 | qrng | So I've wasted electricity for about 50000 simulations. :-D |
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| 13:56.18 | svaksha | spectie: hola |
| 13:56.31 | spectie | hey svaksha ! |
| 13:56.38 | spectie | hows it going ? |
| 13:57.01 | svaksha | ok so far |
| 13:57.06 | svaksha | and you? |
| 13:57.30 | spectie | good thanks |
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| 14:00.37 | pdelgallego | !next |
| 14:00.37 | socinfo | "next" is Suggested pencils down date is on August 9th. Also see !timeline for more info. |
| 14:00.54 | pdelgallego | !timeline |
| 14:00.55 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 14:01.51 | kai | hm, durn |
| 14:02.51 | lolfrenz | gotta love blogspot.com links |
| 14:03.09 | kai | of course they need to introduce a new command-line option parser in python 2.7 |
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| 14:40.08 | sanjoyd | !timeline |
| 14:40.08 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 17:07.11 | mt | !next |
| 17:07.11 | socinfo | "next" is Suggested pencils down date is on August 9th. Also see !timeline for more info. |
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| 17:09.59 | qrng | Good morning! |
| 17:10.09 | Chainsaw | Good evening! |
| 17:11.04 | qrng | Aha, good evening. "Good morning" is merely a UTC -- universal greeting time. |
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| 17:11.19 | qrng | stretches. |
| 17:12.10 | qrng | My reputation was at stake with the Faure quasi-random number generator. I've been stubborn that my implementation is correct and datasets, generated by one researcher, were less correct. |
| 17:12.44 | qrng | Implementation was correct, after all. |
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| 17:14.02 | qrng | By the way, what is the typical amount of the output of a GSoCer? |
| 17:14.20 | smtms | qrng, a few million lines of assembly |
| 17:14.56 | qrng | :-D |
| 17:15.04 | qrng | Before the compilation takes place. |
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| 17:15.09 | qrng | Pure source code, I mean? |
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| 17:22.55 | timotei | qrng: depends a LOT on the task :) |
| 17:23.17 | timotei | actually, the fewer the better :P |
| 17:24.07 | qrng | Reasonable. I happen to think that the quantity is a poor substitute for quality. |
| 17:24.22 | thebolt | we've had projects resulting in anything from 250k lines of code to hm, 1100 or so for one project i supervised a few years ago |
| 17:24.39 | thebolt | totally depends on what you do |
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| 17:25.21 | qrng | Anyhow, there's this marxistic-leninistic law that quantity transforms into quality, and I have much enjoyed it. Especially if one considers how five applest miraculously become a pear. :-) |
| 17:25.56 | valeuf | qrng: you should also consider to amount of documentation ^ ^ |
| 17:26.09 | qrng | A, yes. I've done it. |
| 17:26.14 | valeuf | I spent almost same time working on the documentation than the code |
| 17:26.51 | qrng | My documentation is automatically generated from code, which means that I had to write doxygen-friendly code. |
| 17:27.21 | qrng | I've even produced some nice graphs. :-D |
| 17:27.41 | qrng | http://ln-s.net/7OwO |
| 17:27.56 | qrng | All the naysayers now can see that quasi-random number generators are not some hallucination, -- they really work. :-) |
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| 18:36.01 | shreyas_ | so all u guys are comfortable with progress or some of u cramming code at last moment |
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| 18:39.17 | schumaml | according to many sales departments, two weeks is enough time to get enterprise-scale solutions done, so this is hardly "last moment" |
| 18:41.12 | jacob | relatively, it may be, considering the total timeframe |
| 18:41.44 | jacob | i'm trying to get everything done by the end of this week, things are looking on track but I can't help feeling I forgot something |
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| 22:21.39 | Minna | Wow, looks like I am too late. Ah well... |
| 22:24.14 | merwok | Too late for what? |
| 22:25.14 | Minna | To join the Summer of Code for this year. I just happened to stumble upon it. |
| 22:25.35 | Minna | I'm looking for open source projects to join to enhance my skills. |
| 22:25.43 | Jeff_S | Minna: oh yeah, it's just about to wrap up :) But you're just in time to start thinking about next year! |
| 22:25.53 | merwok | What are your interests and skills? |
| 22:26.18 | merwok | Jeff_S, donât say âjust about to wrap upâ please. There is still time. :) |
| 22:26.50 | Minna | Well, I'm working on web UIs right now. I'm an advanced beginner to intermediate in skill level. |
| 22:26.50 | Jeff_S | merwok: heh, depends on how you look at it |
| 22:27.06 | merwok | Jeff_S, I look at it a bit freaked out :D |
| 22:27.10 | Jeff_S | haha |
| 22:27.17 | Jeff_S | merwok: less IRC more coding!!! |
| 22:27.19 | merwok | Minna, know any programming language already? |
| 22:27.29 | merwok | Jeff_S, itâs my pre-sleep IRC time :) |
| 22:27.46 | Minna | I'm working with PHP, some JavaScript and MS SQL, but I'd like to explore C++ and Java a little more. |
| 22:27.47 | thebolt | merwok: i try to do IRC post-sleep ;) |
| 22:27.57 | thebolt | or post-fall-asleep rather ;) |
| 22:28.13 | merwok | Why so? |
| 22:28.32 | thebolt | saves time, sleep and irc at the same time.. and usually that is the level of mental commitment irc needs ;) |
| 22:28.40 | Minna | Hehe, I'm at work right now trying to finish a couple of things for a boss. A little nerve waracking when you're a beginner and the only one working on a major project... |
| 22:28.45 | merwok | Minna: Okay. I learned PHP first, but Python really taught me programming (and Iâm hacking on Python for this GSoC :) |
| 22:28.49 | Minna | er wracking... |
| 22:29.07 | Minna | Typing on my Motorola Milestone here... |
| 22:29.24 | merwok | thebolt, okay, I had misread âpost-fall-asleepâ |
| 22:30.22 | Minna | Python, huh? What I'm working on is programmed in PHP. I'm surprised by what I created... |
| 22:31.30 | merwok | What do you mean with âhuhâ? (not a native speaker here) |
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| 22:32.47 | Minna | "Huh?" ss another way of saying "What?" |
| 22:32.50 | Minna | er, is. |
| 22:33.20 | Minna | How do you sign up for the next Summer of Code? |
| 22:34.27 | merwok | If youâre saying you donât know what Python is, head to python.org or diveintopython3.org when you have some time. |
| 22:34.34 | merwok | You sign up next year. |
| 22:35.40 | Minna | I know what Python is, but I have to admit I'm not too familiar with it. :( |
| 22:35.52 | Minna | I'll check out the links though. |
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| 22:37.21 | merwok | Whatâs nice about it is that itâs especially suited for fast learning, but after youâve learned, itâs still a real programming language with GUI, networking, etc. |
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| 22:37.39 | Minna | I'm just wondering what skill levelis required for signing up. I had some time to glance at the website, but I didn't see anything mentioning that. |
| 22:38.09 | merwok | Look for the FAQ |
| 22:39.09 | Minna | Wow, didn't see the link in front of me. Thanks! |
| 22:40.33 | Minna | It says I have to be enrolled in a college. Does a JC count (classes are cheaper for me)? |
| 22:42.55 | Minna | I'd happily get into another bachelor's program, but the state of CA is not letting people like me get a secon bachelors in a state school. I have fulfill some requirements at a JC before I can try to enroll for their CS Master's program. |
| 22:43.00 | Minna | *second. |
| 22:43.19 | Minna | Wow, typing perfectly on a phone is hard... |
| 22:43.22 | merwok | I donât know what JC and CA are :) |
| 22:43.38 | Minna | Junior college and California. |
| 22:43.49 | Minna | California is in a budget crisis right now. |
| 22:44.19 | Minna | Oh, and CS is Computer Science. |
| 22:44.49 | merwok | This one I knew :) |
| 22:45.17 | Minna | Oh, okay. Guess you would. :) |
| 22:45.33 | merwok | I think the FAQ says that any superior education cursus is good, college, university or whatever you call it in that strange country of yours. |
| 22:45.47 | Minna | Hahaha... |
| 22:45.54 | Minna | What country are you from? |
| 22:46.09 | merwok | France. We say âuniversitéâ. |
| 22:46.41 | gevaerts | But do you say it often? |
| 22:48.02 | Minna | Ah... Well, I am planning to take a data structures class next Spring Semester at a University. I'll be taking it as an open university student. Expensive, but worth it. |
| 22:49.10 | Minna | I wish California would let up on barring new students from getting second bachelors. |
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| 22:50.48 | Minna | Lots of people... |
| 22:52.03 | merwok | gevaerts, we usually say âfacâ, I guess |
| 22:52.17 | gevaerts | merwok: but surely not all the time? :) |
| 22:52.35 | Minna | Hehe... |
| 22:54.23 | Minna | "America...that 'other country'". :) |
| 22:54.34 | merwok | gevaerts, I donât know what you want me to say :) |
| 22:54.43 | merwok | Ah, okay, now I understand. |
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| 23:55.33 | robbyoconnor | Minna: wait what |
| 23:55.40 | robbyoconnor | you can't have two degrees? |
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| 23:56.28 | robbyoconnor | Minna: also yes Community Colleges (if that's what you mean) count |
| 23:56.36 | robbyoconnor | (I'm at the tail end of my degree) |
| 23:56.49 | robbyoconnor | just have to step off the ledge |
| 23:57.10 | Minna | Can't go for a secon bachelor's in the UC or state system right now because of the California budget crisis. |
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| 23:57.14 | Minna | *second. |
| 23:57.52 | Minna | I COULD go to a private school, but I don't feel like paying 40000-50000 a year in tuition. |
| 23:58.26 | robbyoconnor | yeh |
| 23:59.31 | Minna | So my only hope is to get A's in all my current computer courses and hope it's enough to convince the state system to let me in at the Master's level |
| 23:59.54 | Minna | Except I screwed up Perl a bit... Got an A in C++ though. |
