| 00:12.28 | _wolf_ | Hah! Got an offer to sell one of my GSoC t-shirts :P |
| 00:12.45 | _wolf_ | Didn't sell ;) |
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| 01:29.46 | anth_x | are admins able to review midterm evals as they're happening? |
| 01:30.05 | carols | anth_x: yes, via the "manage student projects" page |
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| 01:32.43 | ojwb | gets a feeling that link isn't obvious enough... |
| 01:33.27 | carols | ojwb: then i would encourage you to submit a feature request for melange |
| 01:34.10 | ojwb | i probably should, but I'm not sure what the answer is - I'm just noticing a recurring question here today |
| 01:34.19 | anth_x | got it, thanks. |
| 01:34.38 | anth_x | i got distracted by the big red link at the bottom of the left-hand side. all better now. |
| 01:37.57 | ojwb | hmm |
| 01:38.22 | ojwb | would changing my google account from @googlemail.com to @gmail.com disconnect it from melange? |
| 01:38.42 | carols | ojwb: maybe. also something you'll want to contact melange-soc-dev about |
| 01:39.29 | ojwb | yeah, just wondering if I'm doing something stupid - i'm not mentoring this year, so haven't logged in for a while |
| 01:40.23 | vivia | carols: what if all interactions with our mentor have been good, and we can't think of anything exceptionally good or exceptionally bad to write about? does writing just that count as an answer? |
| 01:40.53 | carols | vivia: yes, that's fine. also, the question isn't required so you can just skip it too |
| 01:41.02 | vivia | carols: oh thanks :) |
| 01:41.06 | carols | yw |
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| 01:48.02 | vivia | carols: one more question. i'm 7 timezones away from my mentor but he checked the "3-6 timezones apart" option. he said: yes, but considering at what time you go to bed... I think it's just meant to say "how long are you awake at the same time" |
| 01:48.28 | vivia | so is it literally how many timezones apart are we, or what he understood out of it? |
| 01:48.50 | carols | vivia: the question is really meant to get an idea of how time you have in common, so his answer is fine |
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| 01:49.07 | vivia | thx :) |
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| 01:49.13 | carols | yw |
| 01:54.34 | ojwb | opens a ticket for the link not being obvious enough: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=918 |
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| 01:55.58 | carols | thanks ojwb |
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| 02:23.22 | attente | did anyone else run into this problem? |
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| 05:48.43 | thebolt | morning |
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| 06:17.57 | jjj | Hi I'm a mentor, and I'm not sure which email address I used anymore as none of my logins seem to work. |
| 06:18.22 | aztek | hey, I'm not required to remind the mentors about the evaluation, right? |
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| 06:36.29 | robbyoconnor | aztek: you should. |
| 06:36.45 | robbyoconnor | if you're a student -- you may not get paid if they dont do it |
| 06:36.56 | robbyoconnor | if you're an org admin, you're screwing your students over |
| 06:37.20 | robbyoconnor | s/may not/will not/ |
| 06:37.29 | aztek | robbyoconnor: I see. I'm a student. I thought it would be improper since they get a reminder from google anyway (not sure?). |
| 06:38.28 | robbyoconnor | aztek: gently nudge your mentor |
| 06:38.37 | robbyoconnor | (you should know if s/he is going to pass you) |
| 06:38.51 | robbyoconnor | If you don,t there's some pretty bad communication issues! |
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| 06:39.21 | dholbach | good morning |
| 06:40.22 | aztek | robbyoconnor: yep. will do. |
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| 06:48.17 | _Samo | can students read their mentors' evaluation? |
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| 06:49.02 | _Samo | (I am an project admin) |
| 06:49.03 | ojwb | _Samo: no |
| 06:49.25 | ojwb | if there's an unresolvable dispute they may end up revealed, but not in the normal course of events |
| 06:49.41 | ojwb | there's something in the faq or docs about it |
| 06:49.58 | _Samo | hum... Mentors wrote some interesting things that I would like students to read |
| 06:50.05 | _Samo | about improving things |
| 06:50.30 | _Samo | anyway it does not matter |
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| 06:56.25 | ojwb | _Samo: there's no reason why mentors can't cut and paste comments into an email to their students |
| 06:56.40 | _Samo | yes I see |
| 06:56.55 | ojwb | if they were automatically public, I think you'd get less honest answers though |
| 06:57.01 | ojwb | or at least tend to |
| 06:58.50 | aztek | mentors can read the student's eval, right? |
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| 06:59.28 | scorche | no |
| 06:59.36 | scorche | only admins can see both |
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| 07:08.02 | Ademan | UTC 19:00 is 12:00 pacific time/whatever san francisco is? |
| 07:09.43 | Ademan | PDT right now I think |
| 07:10.07 | ojwb | sounds about right |
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| 07:11.16 | thiago_home | $ TZ=America/Los_Angeles date -d '19:00 UTC' |
| 07:11.20 | thiago_home | Fri Jul 16 12:00:00 PDT 2010 |
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| 07:12.44 | kai | morning folks |
| 07:14.46 | thebolt | hi kai et al |
| 07:14.59 | kai | hey thebolt |
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| 07:15.17 | kai | grr |
| 07:16.52 | kai | the registrar's office has no clue whatsoever about the changing examination regulations |
| 07:17.08 | thebolt | haha |
| 07:17.16 | thebolt | since when does uni admins have any clue? :P |
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| 07:18.09 | kai | well, they're currently changing it |
| 07:18.22 | kai | they should know what they're changing to |
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| 07:18.42 | kai | what the heck am I paying a tuition fee for? |
| 07:18.59 | kai | wait.. I'm a grad student, I don't pay a tuition fee.. |
| 07:19.03 | kai | phew |
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| 07:24.11 | thebolt | kai: :) |
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| 07:27.29 | jjj | So what happens if the email address I used originally is no longer associated with my gsoc account? |
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| 07:27.54 | jjj | I'm logged in with my gmail but it wants me to make a new user profile. I've already got one in there. |
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| 07:44.16 | jjj | So I'm down to, how do I recover my link id? |
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| 07:59.49 | comodo | hmm... can a socket close down without resulting in a 0 return from recv? |
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| 08:13.06 | ojwb | jjj: you probably want to ask on #melange |
| 08:13.21 | ojwb | though I'm still waiting for a response to my similar question earlier today |
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| 08:14.52 | sanjoyd | comodo, IIRC you can get a -1 if there has been a connection error. |
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| 08:21.28 | robbyoconnor | comodo: this isn't the place to get supporty |
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| 08:21.36 | robbyoconnor | comodo: http://www.google.com is however! |
| 08:21.50 | robbyoconnor | more so -- try and see :) |
| 08:21.55 | robbyoconnor | support* |
| 08:22.37 | gracelaw | is there any mentors or org admin in the room? |
| 08:22.46 | robbyoconnor | gracelaw: email. |
| 08:22.48 | robbyoconnor | ;) |
| 08:22.52 | robbyoconnor | email your org admin or mentor |
| 08:23.15 | gevaerts | gracelaw: dozens probably |
| 08:23.41 | gracelaw | robbyoconnor: I am having trouble viewing the evaluation forms |
| 08:24.01 | robbyoconnor | oh |
| 08:24.21 | svaksha | robbyoconnor: gracelaw is admin/mentor afaik |
| 08:24.31 | gracelaw | so we can't add our comments to the students |
| 08:24.32 | robbyoconnor | svaksha: heh still :) |
| 08:24.45 | gracelaw | gracelaw is admin |
| 08:24.54 | svaksha | gracelaw: heh |
| 08:25.05 | gracelaw | but my mentors are experiencing the same |
| 08:25.34 | scorche|sh | hrm...i just viewed my orgs' not to long ago |
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| 08:29.10 | gevaerts | gracelaw: what exactly happens? |
| 08:29.21 | robbyoconnor | I know my eval was passing but not 100% positive :S |
| 08:29.54 | gracelaw | scorche|sh: when I click the red link on evaluations, no student is listed |
| 08:30.25 | gracelaw | and my mentors can't find out how to input their evaluations |
| 08:30.43 | gracelaw | so they sent their evaluations to me, and i can't figure out how to input it for them |
| 08:32.53 | gracelaw | never mind, i figured it out :-) |
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| 08:47.28 | hiddenpearls | !timeline |
| 08:47.28 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 08:47.38 | socinfo | Error: "count" is not a valid command. |
| 08:47.42 | hiddenpearls | !countdown |
| 08:47.42 | socinfo | Error: "countdown" is not a valid command. |
| 08:48.09 | hiddenpearls | how much time is left for mid term deadline from now on ? |
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| 08:50.40 | gevaerts | 10 hours and 10 minutes |
| 08:50.47 | gevaerts | (if I count correctly) |
| 08:55.33 | Ivanovic | !next |
| 08:55.33 | socinfo | "next" is July 12th, mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline |
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| 09:01.40 | thebolt | bah, what is it with fridays and work-motivation? :) |
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| 10:05.13 | makershc | hi how many hours remain for gsoc midterm deadline? |
| 10:05.33 | kai | !timeline |
| 10:05.34 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 10:06.04 | mkarnicki | makershc: about 9, but check the deadline and timezones |
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| 10:10.03 | makershc | makarnicki : i am in +5.30 timezone. then how many hours remaining? |
| 10:10.31 | gevaerts | makershc: the deadline is 19:00 UTC, it's now 10:10 UTC |
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| 10:14.36 | mkarnicki | gevaerts: ;) I sleepy head wanted to make sure I got that simple UTC calculation right ;) |
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| 11:27.27 | Neo-- | hm, sorry for this but I had left letter from google at home - what is the phone number to set your PIN for non-US students? |
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| 11:37.45 | mkarnicki | Neo--: from the sticker 1-800-225-1115, outside US 1-610-941-4607 (I wrote both because I used the one for US ;P ) |
| 11:38.24 | Neo-- | why did you user for US? |
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| 11:47.38 | mkarnicki | Neo--: because this one was written on the sticker on the card (the other was in the letter), so I first called the one from card. in all, I called 2 or 3 numbes I think ;d |
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| 11:52.40 | Neo-- | mkarnicki, is it a long conversation for just setting a PIN and I should buy some skype credits or is more along the line of a minute or two? |
| 11:53.47 | mkarnicki | Neo--: since you want to active the pin, when she tells you 'currently theres load and you can check your balance talking to a machine, you have to wait some time before they redirect you. plus, regular, advertisment at the beginning |
| 11:53.54 | mkarnicki | Neo--: I used skype.. |
| 11:54.19 | mkarnicki | Neo--: remember to tell them to raise the card limit when you talk to a consultant |
| 11:54.28 | mkarnicki | Neo--: then, he may put you on-hold, so another minutes. |
| 11:54.49 | lolfrenz | I wasn't directed to a consultant :( |
| 11:55.03 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: you waited to short :) |
| 11:55.13 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: just don't hit the buttons when she says about checking balance |
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| 11:55.32 | mkarnicki | she'll repeat herself (the machine I mean) 3-4 times and then say 'redirecting to our consultants' |
| 11:55.33 | lolfrenz | I see |
| 11:55.58 | mkarnicki | that's why I used skype. I didn't want to get stressed out I'm waiting for something/somebody/on-hold |
| 11:56.41 | lolfrenz | you can call the tollfree number from skype |
| 11:57.19 | Neo-- | but you still need skype credits for that, right? |
| 11:57.26 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: hmm.. once it costed me money, once not. like I said, I think I called 2-3 numbers ;) |
| 11:57.42 | lolfrenz | 1-800 is the toll-free |
| 11:57.47 | lolfrenz | Neo--, I don't think you do |
| 11:57.57 | Neo-- | oh |
| 11:57.59 | lolfrenz | just call the 1-800 one |
| 11:58.03 | Neo-- | then lets give it a try :) |
| 11:58.09 | ojwb | if the "non-US" number is just there because you can't easily call 1-800 from outside the US/Canada, you can probably just use the 1-800 |
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| 11:58.49 | lolfrenz | citibank has disappointing customer support |
| 11:59.01 | lolfrenz | their website is broken, their email server is broken |
| 11:59.04 | Neo-- | mhm |
| 11:59.16 | lolfrenz | and some guy told me that he managed to CHANGE his card's pin by calling that number |
| 11:59.23 | lolfrenz | without being asked for the old pin. |
| 11:59.56 | Neo-- | oh my |
| 12:00.07 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: I did, but they verified the card number and short code from reverse and possibly my other personal data (not remember) |
| 12:00.14 | mkarnicki | that's the point.. |
| 12:01.15 | Neo-- | 94043 is the google's zip code right? |
| 12:01.15 | lolfrenz | is that really sufficient to change one's pin? |
| 12:01.20 | mkarnicki | Neo--: yes |
| 12:01.33 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: cards some without PIN assigned, don't they |
| 12:01.37 | mkarnicki | *cards come |
| 12:02.03 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: that's why they transfer money only when they get notified the package has reached you |
| 12:02.16 | mkarnicki | and it's your responsibility to set the PIN *if* you want to use it in ATMs |
| 12:02.24 | Neo-- | alright |
| 12:02.27 | Neo-- | pin set |
| 12:02.28 | lolfrenz | mkarnicki, yes, but I was not referring to assigning a PIN, but to changing the assigned PIN. |
| 12:02.33 | Neo-- | thanks guys :) |
| 12:02.46 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: oh.. they must have him some personal questions then.. |
| 12:03.05 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: it's like when you forget a pin. there must be a way to change it, right :) ? |
| 12:03.08 | mkarnicki | Neo--: np |
| 12:03.13 | lolfrenz | they don't have much personal info on you |
| 12:03.37 | lolfrenz | mkarnicki, yes, by going to the bank showing you have physical access to the card and showing your card is registered on your name (by showing your id) |
| 12:03.47 | lolfrenz | not by making a phone call and telling the card number and your birthday |
| 12:03.57 | Neo-- | anyone got someone from citi to actually to talk to? |
| 12:04.15 | Neo-- | I was wondering what I have to do for them to execute a SWIFT transaction |
| 12:04.17 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: uhm.. you're probably right. (I misunderstood that as setting the pin, sorry) |
| 12:04.45 | mkarnicki | Neo--: yes, I waited for redirection, and then asked the consultant to raise my limit. |
| 12:04.55 | lolfrenz | how much did it raise it to? |
| 12:05.03 | mkarnicki | Neo--: they put me on hold, and later came back to me with result. (1000 per 72 hours) |
| 12:05.08 | mkarnicki | BUT |
| 12:05.21 | mkarnicki | carols said they have asked for 2500 and I think citi agreed, so |
| 12:05.32 | lolfrenz | where did you hear that? |
| 12:05.35 | lolfrenz | I heard 1k |
| 12:05.47 | mkarnicki | you should explicitly ask for that sum and make sure they understand ( I didn't :< ) |
| 12:05.54 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: hmm... really? |
| 12:06.09 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: either #gsoc or mailing list |
| 12:06.24 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: I'm sorry, I can be wrong again. I'm preoccupied with the project right now. |
| 12:06.32 | mkarnicki | lolfrenz: all in all, I have 1k too. |
| 12:06.38 | Neo-- | I'm not worried about limit |
| 12:06.52 | Neo-- | more about the fact that they take 3% on conversion |
| 12:06.59 | Neo-- | and donno how much for transfer |
| 12:07.05 | mkarnicki | Neo--: unless you don't have possibility to transfer with SWIFT |
| 12:07.36 | Neo-- | and I just talked to my bank yesterday and confirmed that if I receive money in dollars, they automatically accept it |
| 12:07.52 | Neo-- | mkarnicki, erm, I have swift |
| 12:07.55 | lolfrenz | well, I should call to raise my limit to $1000 then |
| 12:08.00 | Neo-- | I mean, every bank has that :) |
| 12:08.19 | mkarnicki | Neo--: but someone said we can't transfer money with a bank transfer outside of US (only to US accounts) |
| 12:08.34 | Neo-- | not by default, yes |
| 12:08.40 | Neo-- | thats why I have to talk to citi |
| 12:08.51 | Neo-- | who do I need to bribe to make swift happen :> |
| 12:08.57 | Neo-- | open a temporary account |
| 12:09.02 | Neo-- | or something |
| 12:09.46 | mkarnicki | Neo--: heheheh |
| 12:14.41 | Neo-- | mkarnicki, you talked to actual human when you called 1-800 or some other number? |
| 12:14.56 | mkarnicki | Neo--: don't remember, sorry |
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| 12:15.27 | Neo-- | k |
| 12:15.29 | mkarnicki | it was confusing though. I guessed I had to wait, since I didn't want to talk to a machine |
| 12:15.45 | mkarnicki | (because I can a session timeout while registering card, etc) |
| 12:17.31 | Neo-- | gotta be something else |
| 12:17.36 | Neo-- | just listened through everything |
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| 14:28.50 | dmitrig01|afk | What happens if a student fails to turn their evaluation in? |
| 14:29.19 | summatusmentis | dmitrig01: the fail, apparently |
| 14:29.27 | summatusmentis | they* |
| 14:30.23 | dmitrig01 | For the mentors, I can fill it in for them - is there any chance of doing an after-the-deadline thing? I think two of my students may be on vacation |
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| 14:31.32 | summatusmentis | I would talk carols, based on what she was saying yesterday, in past years they've talked to people who turned their stuff in late, and let them get it in asap. But I'm not in any way affiliated, so check with her |
| 14:32.12 | dmitrig01 | should I email the list? or just carols |
| 14:32.23 | dmitrig01 | others would have this problem as well, i assume |
| 14:32.57 | summatusmentis | hrm... that's a fair point... My guess is it's more of a case by case thing, and maybe emailing her directly would be better? |
| 14:33.00 | summatusmentis | I'm not sure |
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| 15:31.31 | socinfo | "next" is July 12th, mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline |
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| 15:55.28 | carols | SRabbelier: you around? |
| 15:55.45 | carols | sets out some cookies and coffee |
| 15:56.18 | Kosma | btw, is there any notification whether I pass the evaluation or not? |
| 15:56.29 | Kosma | my mentor is not responding to the emails atm |
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| 15:58.40 | kunalb | same question as kosma: my mentor did say he'd be doing the evaluation today, but I was sleeping for most of his day and right now he's asleep. |
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| 15:59.51 | umashanthi | carols: hi |
| 16:00.02 | carols | umashanthi: hi |
| 16:00.21 | carols | Kosma: yes, you'll receive an email after the deadline |
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| 16:00.48 | umashanthi | carols: just got the answer for my question by email. I was about to ask the results of mid-term evaluations |
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| 16:01.08 | carols | ok |
| 16:01.40 | Kosma | 19:00 UTC, okay |
| 16:01.45 | Kosma | 3 hours left, right? |
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| 16:02.43 | carols | http://bit.ly/awQbEw |
| 16:04.52 | Kosma | carols: thanks :) |
| 16:04.56 | carols | yw |
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| 16:05.40 | josip | hello, when we will be informed whether we passed the midterm evaluations? |
| 16:06.12 | carols | josip: after the deadline is over |
| 16:06.28 | josip | immediately? That's nice |
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| 16:07.24 | pdelgallego | carols, I just filled the midterm evaluation, I suppose to get any kind of mail after sending the midterm evaluation? |
| 16:07.44 | carols | pdelgallego: no, but as long as your work is saved in melange you're fine |
| 16:08.05 | pdelgallego | carols, ok, thx |
| 16:08.10 | carols | yw |
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| 16:26.05 | MostAwesomeDude | carols: Thank you for the reminder. Been busy with a family reunion -- both students are now good to go! |
| 16:26.22 | MostAwesomeDude | Find OSL at OSCON; we'll give you swag. :3 |
| 16:26.24 | rbuels | as an org admin, how can I tell which of my projects has submitted a midterm eval, and which have not? |
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| 16:27.08 | gevaerts | rbuels: check the "Manage Student Projects" link |
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| 16:28.07 | carols | MostAwesomeDude: great |
| 16:28.08 | rbuels | gevaerts: oh, i see it |
| 16:28.13 | rbuels | gevaerts: thanks! |
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| 16:45.32 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 16:45.57 | gevaerts | gets some tea and offers stroopwafels |
| 16:46.31 | carols | mmm stroopwafels |
| 16:46.43 | carols | munches stroopwafels |
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| 16:48.56 | _wolf_ | did someone say stroopwafels? |
| 16:49.02 | _wolf_ | mmm :D |
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| 16:52.07 | carols | SRabbelier: paging SRabbelier, SRabbelier to the white courtesy telephone please |
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| 17:27.26 | graaff | carols: around? |
| 17:27.37 | carols | graaff: yes |
| 17:27.56 | graaff | Any chance that we can delay our evaluation for a student? |
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| 17:28.04 | carols | graaff: nope |
| 17:28.06 | graaff | Your mail clearly said now :-) |
| 17:28.09 | graaff | no |
| 17:28.31 | carols | graaff: this deadline has been known to all GSoC participants since the program was announced :-) |
| 17:28.49 | carols | if it's a problem I should have been notified of it weeks ago |
| 17:28.59 | graaff | Yes, I know. And I have an evaluation ready to go. |
| 17:29.14 | carols | graaff: cool, sounds like its not a problem then |
| 17:30.43 | graaff | Thing is that our student is in a difficult situation and that hasn't become clear until the last week or so. Things should be much better for him next week, and I'd much rather base my evaluation on the action he can show next week rather than the words he speaks now. |
| 17:34.24 | _wolf_ | graaff, If I may give you some advice. From experience I have learned that these people will very rarely deliver in the end... Evaluate him now, and if you really really know that he will shape up, pass him. If you don't really, then flunk him. |
| 17:34.52 | _wolf_ | it sounds harsh, but well that's life |
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| 17:37.21 | graaff | _wolf_: thanks, I guess that what we'll have to do. |
| 17:37.30 | MostAwesomeDude | Don't treat students as opportunities to get more code, treat them as potential new developers. |
| 17:37.49 | gevaerts | Was the work up to now good? |
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| 17:40.41 | graaff | MostAwesomeDude: I can explain that as being in favor of both passing and failing :-) |
| 17:40.59 | tylercurtis | _wolf_: has graaff given anywhere near enough information about the situation to justify giving such harsh advice? |
| 17:41.15 | gevaerts | graaff: as a mentor, I'd just look at *past* work. If that was ok, pass, if it wasn't fail |
| 17:43.25 | graaff | gevaerts: looking purely at the past work I'd fail him, considering his circumstances and the long discussion we had with him today I lean towards a pass. |
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| 17:43.53 | gevaerts | graaff: you didn't know about these circumstances until last week? |
| 17:44.33 | graaff | Not as clearly as I do now, no. |
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| 17:45.56 | gpolo | graaff: did he participate other years ? or participates in other projects ? that could help your decision |
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| 17:54.28 | ScottMac | is there a way to get the survey in a single csv? |
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| 18:15.50 | tomdavidson | hey, are there any options to "appeal" or "arbitrate" a negitive midterm eval? |
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| 18:20.17 | carols | tomdavidson: yes, we have a google engineer review the code independently |
| 18:20.32 | dberkholz | i am confused why the student time question has multiple choice options that are so low |
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| 18:20.56 | dberkholz | 4 below 20 hrs/wk, then just 1 for more than 20 |
| 18:21.20 | tomdavidson | carols: so its just on code, not on "communcation" or verification of claims made in the evals? |
| 18:21.36 | carols | tomdavidson: you emailed me, yes? |
| 18:22.43 | tomdavidson | sorry carols: i read the irc name as "carlos" :) ill wait for your email |
| 18:22.56 | carols | tomdavidson: great, we'll discuss via email. |
| 18:25.57 | svaksha | carols: pm? |
| 18:26.03 | carols | svaksha: sure |
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| 18:29.22 | vegard | dberkholz: I am also surprised by that |
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| 18:30.10 | vegard | a regular (full-time) summer job would be 40 hours/week, wouldn't it? |
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| 18:34.24 | dberkholz | yep |
| 18:34.36 | dberkholz | carols: when you've got a minute, could you please let me know? |
| 18:34.46 | carols | dberkholz: no time like the present :-) |
| 18:35.16 | gevaerts | gives carols lots of tea, coffee and cookies for the long day ahead |
| 18:35.24 | carols | aw thanks gevaerts :-) |
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| 18:36.58 | carols | munches cookies and sips coffee |
| 18:37.07 | carols | its already been a long day and its not even lunchtime yet |
| 18:38.10 | tzikis | ah, so you'll need the cookies :P |
| 18:40.12 | paulproteus | Hello hash gsoc. |
| 18:40.13 | aztek | Hi guys, there is no way to know if the mentor filled in the eval too, right? |
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| 18:40.27 | Kosma | aztek: there is, actually - wait 20 minutes :) |
| 18:40.32 | aztek | Oh? |
| 18:40.37 | aztek | even for the students? |
| 18:40.37 | carols | aztek: or ask the person |
| 18:40.47 | paulproteus | I'm curious -- who gets to read the data in my evaluation of my student? |
| 18:40.53 | paulproteus | is furiously finishing up the eval right now |
| 18:40.57 | gpolo | the org adim |
| 18:41.05 | gpolo | admin* |
| 18:41.05 | aztek | carols: I thought of that too. But apparently she's stuck with something and couldn't come online the entire day. So I was wondering :) |
| 18:41.06 | carols | aztek: yes, if your mentor hasn't submitted an evaluation you'll receive an email after the deadline saying we dont have one on file |
| 18:41.16 | aztek | ah I see. |
| 18:41.41 | aztek | What happens if that's the case? |
| 18:41.41 | carols | paulproteus: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#evaluations |
| 18:41.48 | paulproteus | I've heard rumors that Google uses GSoC as a (informal?) recruiting tool. Do Google recruiter-type people (or anyone outside the Open Source Programs Office) see the data? |
| 18:41.50 | paulproteus | carols: /me reads -- thanks! |
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| 18:42.23 | aztek | I don't think google recruitment has anything to do with gsoc. This is just a program google sponsors. |
| 18:42.38 | paulproteus | Yeah -- I guess my question is, since "program administrators from Google" have access to the evaluation data, how is it shared within Google? |
| 18:42.43 | carols | paulproteus: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#recruiting |
| 18:42.45 | gevaerts | paulproteus: you didn't hear the rumour about google denying this then? :) |
| 18:43.13 | paulproteus | (-: gevaerts, aztek, carols |
| 18:43.41 | paulproteus | Sounds like there's no explicit policy within Google against sharing the data with recruitment-type people, but that it's unlikely to happen anyway. |
| 18:43.57 | aztek | Also, back to my original question. What if the mentor is unable to fill in the eval before the deadline? |
| 18:44.12 | mkarnicki | aztek: 20:41 <@carols> aztek: yes, if your mentor hasn't submitted an evaluation you'll receive an email after the deadline saying we dont have one on file |
| 18:44.32 | aztek | No I mean, how is it handled/resolved/ |
| 18:44.53 | carols | aztek: you dont receive a midterm payment and I contact the organization admin and mentor |
| 18:45.14 | aztek | Ah, ok. |
| 18:45.43 | aztek | thanks carols :) |
| 18:45.47 | carols | yw |
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| 18:46.37 | gevaerts | can't help wondering why so many students are worrying about failing :) |
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| 18:47.13 | aztek | not failing, but worrying if the mentor did fill in the eval. Otherwise it would needlessly delay the payment ;) |
| 18:47.21 | Kosma | gevaerts: I'm more like wondering why is the 15% failing |
| 18:47.26 | mkarnicki | aztek: agreed |
| 18:47.33 | YuviPanda | Kosma: avg rate is 15%? |
| 18:47.39 | mkarnicki | interesting |
| 18:47.40 | carols | avg rate is 7% |
| 18:47.40 | Kosma | YuviPanda: iirc |
| 18:47.47 | Kosma | ah |
| 18:47.53 | mkarnicki | get's back to code ;) |
| 18:48.16 | YuviPanda | ah |
| 18:48.18 | aztek | Oh, btw was the country wise data regarding the gsoc students released? |
| 18:48.29 | YuviPanda | goes back to making a release of his GSoC project |
| 18:48.45 | Kosma | well, 7% is prety low to be covered by statistical error, random events, people snekaing through and getting accepted, etc. |
| 18:49.12 | carols | aztek: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/05/google-summer-of-code-2010-meet.html |
| 18:50.06 | tylercurtis | Wow. Lots of GSoCers from this "All Others" place. Where's that at? |
| 18:50.18 | _wolf_ | just to make sure, org admins aren't expected to file a midterm for the org, right? |
| 18:50.26 | gevaerts | tylercurtis: Mars |
| 18:50.54 | aztek | cool! Thanks again carols! |
| 18:50.59 | carols | yw |
| 18:51.13 | carols | _wolf_: correct. we're only going to do that at the final |
| 18:51.22 | _wolf_ | thanks carols :) |
| 18:51.29 | carols | seems silly to make you say the same thing twice |
| 18:51.45 | _wolf_ | I read all the faqs and all links, but there was no info on it.. :S |
| 18:51.58 | _wolf_ | carols, agreed |
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| 18:53.06 | tylercurtis | gevaerts: Of course! I should've known Mars had gotten a population and Internet access when the rovers started using Twitter. |
| 18:53.32 | gevaerts | tylercurtis: oh wait, I wasn't supposed to tell you this! Can you pretend this conversation never happened? |
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| 18:54.03 | tylercurtis | gevaerts: Don't worry; I'll forget it anyway. |
| 18:54.12 | gevaerts | Thanks! :) |
| 18:54.24 | _wolf_ | carols, btw thanks for all the support you've given us lately :) |
| 18:54.33 | carols | _wolf_: of course, happy to help |
| 18:56.33 | Ademan | am I immediately disqualified if I put 15-20 hours/week? I really don't know for sure how much time I've spent, that's a conservative estimate though |
| 18:56.50 | coppro | whoa |
| 18:56.57 | coppro | Ademan: no |
| 18:57.00 | carols | Ademan: no, you are not disqualified based on the amount of time you put into the program. |
| 18:57.00 | coppro | Google does not care |
| 18:57.14 | carols | what coppro |
| 18:57.14 | coppro | the European Space Agency is mentoring some projects. that's just epic. |
| 18:57.16 | carols | said |
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| 18:57.36 | Ademan | ah thanks carols, I'll leave it at that then, thanks |
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| 18:58.20 | Ademan | also, my only responsibility for today is my midterm evaluation survey right? |
| 18:58.39 | carols | Ademan: yes, as long as your org isn't requiring anything else of you separate from the evals |
| 18:58.54 | coppro | the survey is due in 1 minute |
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| 18:59.00 | marcosroriz | yo |
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| 18:59.37 | marcosroriz | 1minute for happiness or sorrow |
| 18:59.54 | nir | when will we get the mail?? |
| 19:00.01 | Dark_Shikari | wait what |
| 19:00.02 | Dark_Shikari | 1 minute? |
| 19:00.02 | Dark_Shikari | fuck |
| 19:00.08 | Dark_Shikari | I got timezones wrong |
| 19:00.09 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: no, -5 seconds |
| 19:00.13 | Dark_Shikari | .... |
| 19:00.22 | carols | nir: about 5 mins after the deadline, once i've confirmed all the results |
| 19:00.23 | Dark_Shikari | I haven't filled out my students' evaluations |
| 19:00.26 | Dark_Shikari | I just woke up |
| 19:00.28 | Dark_Shikari | .... |
| 19:00.34 | Dark_Shikari | And I have another mentor that I _KNOW_ didn't |
| 19:00.50 | nir | carols: thanks Carol |
| 19:00.51 | Dark_Shikari | AGHHHHHHH |
| 19:00.52 | Dark_Shikari | .... |
| 19:01.02 | carols | Dark_Shikari: talk to your org admin, please |
| 19:01.04 | Dark_Shikari | what do I do :( |
| 19:01.07 | carols | and watch the language |
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| 19:01.16 | Dark_Shikari | how are they supposed to fix it? :( |
| 19:01.23 | marcosroriz | hi carols, are you the real carols |
| 19:01.39 | carols | Dark_Shikari: they'll figure it out with me |
| 19:01.47 | carols | marcosroriz: if i say i am would you believe me? :-) |
| 19:02.01 | marcosroriz | yep, you're very gentil :] |
| 19:03.05 | hiddenpearls | anyone got email ?? |
| 19:03.08 | marcosroriz | >.<, my family is all excited here because of gsoc :~ |
| 19:03.28 | hiddenpearls | marcosroriz: mine too |
| 19:03.40 | aztek | wow really? |
| 19:03.42 | marcosroriz | I think it's because google is like a global brand |
| 19:03.45 | aztek | where are you guys from? |
| 19:03.46 | marcosroriz | >_> |
| 19:03.48 | marcosroriz | brazil |
| 19:03.53 | nir | marcosroriz: my family is sleeping :D |
| 19:04.06 | aztek | My family is more pissed because I spend most of teh vacation with the computer than /family/ :P |
| 19:04.09 | marcosroriz | my grandma is really proud of me, but she doesn't like computer anyway |
| 19:04.10 | hiddenpearls | marcosroriz: its mid night and we are all waiting |
| 19:04.24 | marcosroriz | I wish I could make my grandma like computers :'/ |
| 19:04.29 | h4xordood | deadline is over when will we get results ? |
| 19:04.35 | Dark_Shikari | I need the list of questions so I can fill them out and send them to my project manager |
| 19:04.40 | Kosma | h4xordood: in a few minutes |
| 19:04.43 | Dark_Shikari | the form is no longer on the site |
| 19:05.11 | Ademan | is it up to my mentor or the org to give me a passing grade on the midterm? |
| 19:05.19 | Ademan | (or both) |
| 19:05.20 | h4xordood | best of luck to every one :) |
| 19:05.27 | aztek | Dark_Shikari: carol did send the list of questions to the students list |
| 19:05.27 | Dark_Shikari | carols: do you have a copy of the form? |
| 19:05.28 | marcosroriz | same |
| 19:05.33 | Dark_Shikari | I'm not on the students list! |
| 19:05.35 | Dark_Shikari | I'm a mentor. |
| 19:05.39 | aztek | oh |
| 19:05.41 | carols | Dark_Shikari: copy of the survey? |
| 19:05.44 | Dark_Shikari | A pastebin would be useful, if you're on the students list. |
| 19:05.48 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: the list was sent to the mentors list too |
| 19:05.48 | Dark_Shikari | Yeah, I need to fill it out. |
| 19:06.04 | gevaerts | Well, I'm assuming that the questions aren't necessarily the same |
| 19:06.19 | Dark_Shikari | next year, can you send the evaluation a bit more than 3 hours before? |
| 19:06.21 | Dark_Shikari | I was asleep :> |
| 19:06.31 | gevaerts | huh? |
| 19:06.40 | Dark_Shikari | er, the evaluation reminder |
| 19:06.45 | Dark_Shikari | we thought that it was 1900 PST |
| 19:06.47 | _wolf_ | Dark_Shikari, you've had all week to get it done.. |
| 19:06.50 | hiddenpearls | carols, time is over, when can have result ? |
| 19:07.02 | carols | !patience |
| 19:07.03 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 19:07.32 | Dark_Shikari | _wolf_: yes, I know, it's entirely my fault, it just would have been a bit nicer if the reminder was actually useful... |
| 19:07.35 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: *all* times in gsoc have been UTC since ages, and most of those have been 19:00 UTC |
| 19:07.57 | Dark_Shikari | er.... but right now, it's 12:00 PST |
| 19:07.59 | Dark_Shikari | that is not 19:00 UTC. |
| 19:08.06 | coppro | it's 12:00 PDT |
| 19:08.12 | carols | Dark_Shikari: I also sent a reminder via melange yesterday too. so you had two reminders, the timeline on the website and the email to the mentors list |
| 19:08.16 | dhaun | Dark_Shikari: there also was a round of reminders earlier this week |
| 19:08.16 | coppro | it's 11:00 PST |
| 19:08.23 | _wolf_ | just goe to prove yet again to not leave it to the last possible minute. Especially in GSoC :P |
| 19:08.23 | paulproteus | PDT! |
| 19:08.26 | paulproteus | Hah. |
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| 19:12.20 | dberkholz | i've got 2 problems |
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| 19:12.56 | dennda | Just got mail. :-) |
| 19:12.58 | dberkholz | first, one of my mentors hit a webapp error upon last-minute submission, so i'm hoping we can get that into the system in the next few minutes. |
| 19:13.05 | Dark_Shikari | well, I just got two evaluations done in 5 minutes. I guess google would have preferred if I spent more than 2.5 minutes on each one =p |
| 19:13.25 | dberkholz | second, i was just informed that one of the students was on vacation all week and will return monday. of course he never did the eval. not sure what to do about that |
| 19:15.03 | nir | dennda: u gt pass ryt? |
| 19:15.46 | dennda | nir: If i decipher that correctly, then yes |
| 19:16.06 | aztek | hah. |
| 19:16.10 | hiddenpearls | !next |
| 19:16.10 | socinfo | "next" is July 12th, mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline |
| 19:16.18 | nir | dennda: congratzz |
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| 19:17.32 | dberkholz | huh. guess admins can't access the eval anymore either. |
| 19:18.47 | hiddenpearls | anyone got email ? |
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| 19:25.41 | j-b | hello, I am admin for videolan org. One mentor didn't validate the midterm surveys in time. Although it seems that, even while being admin, I cannot access it |
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| 19:26.48 | carols | j-b: you'll need to contact me directly |
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| 19:27.39 | j-b | carols: by mail, I presume? |
| 19:27.47 | carols | j-b: yes please |
| 19:28.04 | j-b | carols: many many thanks. And really sorry.. Doing right now. |
| 19:28.12 | carols | ok |
| 19:28.50 | nir | carols: Sending mails is an automated process ryt? |
| 19:29.06 | carols | nir: the mails about whether the students passed the midterms? |
| 19:29.19 | nir | carols: YA |
| 19:29.24 | carols | yes, its automated |
| 19:29.35 | nir | carols: thanks... |
| 19:29.38 | carols | yw |
| 19:29.48 | hiddenpearls | carols, but I didn't got any email yet |
| 19:29.53 | Chainsaw | And the content is unmistakable. |
| 19:30.02 | Chainsaw | it will be very clear whether you passed or not. |
| 19:30.17 | carols | hiddenpearls: they've been sent. check your spam folder? |
| 19:30.29 | rafaelmartins | i got my mail on the spam box |
| 19:30.37 | rafaelmartins | please check this, guys :D |
| 19:30.49 | nir | carols: even I didn't get yet..checking the spam nw |
| 19:31.09 | dberkholz | they seem to be showing up in batches every few minutes |
| 19:31.12 | coppro | mine was in spam |
| 19:31.17 | firc | mine too |
| 19:31.17 | hiddenpearls | carols: no, it is not in spam and neither in inbox |
| 19:31.24 | firc | wonders why it went to spam! |
| 19:31.33 | nir | carols: same as hiddenpearls |
| 19:31.56 | araujo | just sent email to carols |
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| 19:32.16 | carols | nir: then give it some time. they only went out 20 minutes ago. maybe the internets are slow today |
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| 19:32.34 | nir | carols: okk |
| 19:32.36 | xendo | xendo is also wondering why google mails hit google mailboxes in spam folder |
| 19:32.51 | dberkholz | like you can't send spam from a gmail account? |
| 19:33.07 | hiddenpearls | carols: ok |
| 19:33.08 | pkarasev3 | hi, I thought I submitted my evaluation yesterday afternoon, but I just got an email saying "not possible to evaluate, likely it was submitted late" |
| 19:33.30 | pkarasev3 | I don't see a way to verify that I submitted as the page now just says "no longer valid " |
| 19:33.31 | carols | pkarasev3: you might want to ask your mentor if he/she submitted an evaluation of you as well |
| 19:33.41 | firc | Ok, cool. Apparently, my mentor did fill in the evals. :D |
| 19:33.49 | firc | shoots an email to thank her |
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| 19:34.16 | pkarasev3 | Carol, is is possible to check somehow that mine was sent? |
| 19:35.04 | jmason | carols: I haven't received one yet either, and it's not in spam |
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| 19:35.30 | pkarasev3 | ah Xchat crashed, maybe I missed something |
| 19:35.35 | carols | jmason: have a little patience. the midterms just closed. the emails were just sent. |
| 19:35.57 | theliet | I missed the deadline! I had the evaluation almost filled out, I have forgotten to submit. Is there anything I can do? carols: is there still any hope for me? am I failed for good? |
| 19:36.13 | xendo | be calm theliet :) |
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| 19:36.32 | carols | theliet: please email me. |
| 19:36.55 | theliet | carols: I already did |
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| 19:37.31 | carols | theliet: great |
| 19:38.13 | josip | how can I see if I passed the midterm evaluation? |
| 19:38.56 | theliet | carols: thank you, I hope it will all be okay in the end :) I am patiently awaiting a reply. |
| 19:40.05 | jmason | josip: you should receive an email |
| 19:40.11 | svaksha | josip: google will send you an email <==check the spam folder |
| 19:40.32 | josip | ah, okay |
| 19:40.37 | josip | it was in the spam folder :) |
| 19:40.46 | bawr | Same here. :3 |
| 19:41.38 | jmason | jmason: just got mine too, in spam :) |
| 19:41.38 | guest20010 | same here :) |
| 19:42.11 | firc | google marking /google/ summer of code mail as spam :D |
| 19:42.24 | pkarasev3 | are most of you guys based outside the US? it is barely past noon in CA where my mentor is, he might have meant to fill it out after lunch or something. Is UTC the same as GMT? |
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| 19:42.41 | firc | pkarasev3: yes. |
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| 19:43.26 | firc | pkarasev3: carol is from the US. You should email her in case you need help. |
| 19:43.37 | hiddenpearls | carols: I got it in my spam .. and I have passed |
| 19:43.50 | carols | great |
| 19:43.54 | Kosma | firc: google summer of fail? ;) |
| 19:44.05 | Kosma | (no offence meant) |
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| 19:44.27 | pkarasev3 | yeah I did, but she is probably swamped with emails, I just hoped to be able to check whether or not my eval was received, now I'm not sure if I failed to click properly or if the mentor just hasn't sent it |
| 19:44.28 | firc | :D |
| 19:44.30 | coppro | pkarasev3: yes, however, there has been a little confusion over the fact that GMT/UTC do not have daylight savings time, so UTC would be 8 hours ahead of California in the winter but only 7 in the summer. |
| 19:44.30 | bawr | Kosma: maybe you meant offense, though. ;P |
| 19:44.53 | bkgood | solution: google "current time in utc" :) |
| 19:44.56 | nir | carols: gt it in my spam... thanks.. I have passed !! |
| 19:44.58 | Kosma | <3 gsoc |
| 19:45.05 | firc | Kosma: then again it's always melange at fault :D |
| 19:45.07 | hiddenpearls | nir: congrats |
| 19:45.12 | Kosma | just the situation is ironic :) |
| 19:46.54 | bkgood | I was sure early May to now would've been enough time for all 1026 to learn ml etiquette :/ |
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| 19:47.39 | marcosroriz | damn with this money I'll be able to buy tons and tons of games (J/k) |
| 19:47.45 | marcosroriz | Games rocks <3 |
| 19:47.47 | firc | prepares his defenses. Sets up the filters. And goes to sleep. |
| 19:47.49 | PacketCollision | carols: I just got a "From our data it seems that it is not possible to evaluate your project at this time for the Midterm Evaluations." email, but I filled out the survey, should I email you? |
| 19:47.53 | nir | hiddenpearls: thanks |
| 19:47.55 | bkgood | marcosroriz: nothing wrong with that :D |
| 19:48.05 | firc | g'day/night folks :) |
| 19:48.14 | carols | PacketCollision: this means your mentor hasn't submitted an evaluation of you. i'd suggest you speak with him/her |
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| 19:48.48 | PacketCollision | OK will do. I know he's at a conference out of the country right now, with spotty internet, so he probably was just a bit late in doing it. |
| 19:49.37 | PacketCollision | carols: thanks for the prompt info! |
| 19:49.42 | carols | yw |
| 19:50.04 | kunalb_ | just found out his pass email in spam |
| 19:50.21 | PacketCollision | yeah, mine was in spam too |
| 19:50.31 | dennda | carols: Now I got my email twice |
| 19:50.39 | carols | dennda: ok |
| 19:51.05 | PacketCollision | gmail doesn't appear to like mass emails from apphosting |
| 19:52.55 | PacketCollision | I added socghop.noreply@gmail.com to my address book and marked the emails as not spam, hopefully that will be enough to have them delivered to my inbox from now on |
| 19:53.07 | flavioribeiro | PacketCollision, marked as not spam too |
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| 20:09.17 | BBB | hi guys, one student forgot to file the midterm eval, what do we do now? |
| 20:10.00 | baer | lol I just got a second email from the system |
| 20:10.40 | mkarnicki | baer: me too |
| 20:10.51 | mkarnicki | BBB: he should write email to carols directly |
| 20:10.53 | akshayb | I got confirmation mail, in spam. I was shocked!. People do check your spam list if you didn't find your mail :) |
| 20:11.13 | mkarnicki | akshayb: many ppl got it in spam, happens. |
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| 20:14.57 | shreyas_ | hey guys, any of ya fail the mid term evals |
| 20:15.10 | diofeher | i didn't see anyone failing |
| 20:15.30 | theliet | I did, I missed the deadline my 30 minutes |
| 20:15.55 | dennda | is it official that you failed already? |
| 20:16.21 | mkarnicki | just leave it up to the admins, no sense in guessing. |
| 20:16.25 | bawr | It's official that he failed for the time being. |
| 20:16.29 | mkarnicki | he has contacted carols. |
| 20:17.54 | theliet | my status on http://socghop.appspot.com/ is failed |
| 20:18.07 | theliet | I contacted carols, I am waiting for an answer |
| 20:18.28 | theliet | I hope everything will be okay; I had the eval almost filled out |
| 20:18.58 | Ademan | wierd, I just got a second confirmation about the evaluation, with the exact same text, but only the first line |
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| 20:20.11 | schumaml | grab the socghop code, find out why this can happen, fix it and send the socghop maintainers a patch :) |
| 20:21.20 | schumaml | (assuming the mailing system is part of melange, that is) |
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| 20:22.35 | PacketCollision | schumaml: it is. Or at least the mail was sent from socghop appengine |
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| 20:25.32 | PacketCollision | lol, I just got a second email too |
| 20:25.41 | PacketCollision | this one didn't go to spam, at least |
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| 20:44.15 | dhaun | so far, I'm counting 10 emails for our 4 students - but then again, duplicate emails are a GSoC tradition by now ;-) |
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| 21:20.45 | theliet | did anyone miss the deadline for mid-term eval before? in the previous editions, I mean? what happened to those people? |
| 21:23.19 | bawr | They went to hell. :( |
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| 21:29.39 | merwok | Hi there |
| 21:32.32 | merwok | carols, may I talk with you? |
| 21:32.38 | carols | merwok: yes |
| 21:33.16 | merwok | Is private message ok? |
| 21:33.31 | carols | yes |
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| 21:46.21 | merwok | makes tea |
| 21:46.30 | gpolo | such a good spam email :) |
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| 22:19.48 | Dark_Shikari | carols: thanks for helping fix my screwup. |
| 22:20.01 | carols | Dark_Shikari: yw |
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| 23:56.21 | joel-de-guzman | Hi. I am hoping someone could help me. I am mentoring a very exceptional student. I just read this email from Carol Smith at 11:27PM yesterday that the it is less than 4 hours until the deadline for the midterm evaluation. Unfortunately, I live on the other side of the world and I just read the email now. Is there a way to ask someone in authority to help me out? |
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