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| 00:41.59 | tobiw | is it possible to transfer money from the citi account to someone else's bank account in the US? or don't they accept that at all? |
| 00:44.19 | coppro | After much costernation, I discovered the easiest approach was to use the credit card. The exchange rate isn't as bad as they say (roughly 2%, which is better than some banks even) and there are no additional fees. |
| 00:46.53 | tobiw | anywhere in the world? or are there convertion fees? sorry, i'm following the mailing list but it's got a bit too much :D |
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| 00:52.23 | infinity0 | hey people, i can't access the page for my student's project, it gives me "There is no entity with the required status." |
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| 00:58.30 | tobiw | do we have to tell carol when we receive the card? the website says that $505 will be loaded on may 24th but that hasn't happend since i got the card only two days ago |
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| 01:07.52 | JSund | tobiw: check the mail "Card Funding for Delivered Cards..." that Carol sent on June 12th |
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| 01:48.24 | tobiw | JSund: thanks |
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| 03:20.18 | ngupta | Anyone from India received the package? |
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| 05:20.24 | rohitr | Hi I got a tracking number from carol, but when I use it on the fedex site, it says "No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet.". Do I have to wait and if yes how long, for them to update the info on the site? |
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| 05:22.14 | ojwb | doubts anyone here works for fedex |
| 05:24.09 | rohitr | understands that and asked it because people here would have experienced the delay in the updation, if any and may be would have helped him |
| 05:25.05 | ojwb | except when it finally arrives, you've no real way to tell how stale the information is though |
| 05:26.17 | rohitr | ojwb: "hey i got my tracking number on <this day>, and it took a day for fedex to update the info" would have been enough.' |
| 05:26.27 | rohitr | does not understand ojwb's point |
| 05:27.20 | ojwb | well, I sent a package which ended up with fedex, and they updated it fairly soon after they got it from NZ post, as far as I could tell |
| 05:27.39 | ojwb | but does that tell you anything useful? |
| 05:29.27 | in3xes | rohitr, where are you from? india? |
| 05:30.21 | rohitr | ojwb : it doesnt. Which is why you shouldn't have bothered to answer in the first place. :-) |
| 05:30.31 | rohitr | in3xes: yes. |
| 05:30.45 | ojwb | well, that's my point really |
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| 05:44.24 | adifire | !packages |
| 05:44.24 | socinfo | Error: "packages" is not a valid command. |
| 05:44.37 | adifire | !package |
| 05:44.38 | socinfo | "package" is It's no good asking in here if anyone from XYZ already received a package. They're being sent out now, you will get a tracking number when yours is sent. Chill and code something useful. Also see !patience |
| 05:44.55 | adifire | !patience |
| 05:44.56 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 05:46.33 | ojwb | hmm, recursive chains of suggested bot commands... |
| 05:46.53 | adifire | hmm.. |
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| 05:51.27 | dholbach | good morning |
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| 06:31.39 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 06:38.14 | kai | morning thebolt |
| 06:38.53 | kai | thebolt: have you seen http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MSP430_LaunchPad_%28MSP-EXP430G2%29?DCMP=launchpad&HQS=Other+OT+launchpadwiki ? |
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| 06:40.31 | kai | thebolt: the free shipping works even to europe :) |
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| 06:46.07 | thebolt | kai: now I have ;) |
| 06:46.35 | thebolt | But i don't really have any use (or time) for that even if it would be interesting ;) |
| 06:47.22 | thebolt | have enough TI things with the beagleboard, the OMAP-L138 development board and the OMAP3530-based Torpedo-SOM module ;) |
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| 06:50.23 | thiago_home | is SOM module an example of RAS syndrome? |
| 06:50.26 | thiago_home | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome |
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| 06:51.08 | thebolt | thiago_home: yes :P |
| 06:51.23 | kai | thebolt: well, I don't think I've got any use for it either. but for $4.30 including shipping, I decided to get one anyway |
| 06:51.33 | thebolt | yea, me too :P |
| 06:51.36 | kai | especially as it doesn't up my computer count |
| 06:52.07 | thebolt | although, if you order from arrow it will be shipped from US, so you have to pay customs etc.. |
| 06:52.20 | kai | thebolt: I ordered from TI |
| 06:52.21 | thebolt | mouser ship from france, so thats better |
| 06:52.31 | thebolt | where did you find to order it from TI? |
| 06:52.43 | kai | erm, hang on |
| 06:52.51 | thebolt | ah, nm |
| 06:52.55 | thebolt | google :P |
| 06:52.59 | kai | http://bit.ly/cWihxM |
| 06:53.20 | kai | the site is a bit slowish |
| 06:53.28 | kai | I think they're being swamped :) |
| 06:53.32 | thebolt | hehe |
| 06:53.40 | kai | but as I don't have a use case, I've got time |
| 06:53.41 | thebolt | mouser had 9000 devices "on order" ;) |
| 06:54.04 | thiago_home | going for volume discount? :-) |
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| 06:54.41 | kai | thebolt: and at least in germany I don't have to pay for packages that are < 25EUR total value |
| 06:54.59 | thebolt | kai: ah, here you (technically) have to pay customs+VAT for anything |
| 06:55.14 | kai | yeah, same here |
| 06:55.19 | thebolt | but i think they won't try to collect if customs+VAT is below 100 SEK (~10 euro) or so |
| 06:55.43 | kai | but because they realized that doing this for < 25EUR will cost more than they get, they've got that limit |
| 06:56.08 | thebolt | :) |
| 06:56.59 | kai | that said, I don't mind paying 19% import tax if they want me to |
| 06:57.48 | kai | for ~3.5 EUR, that's a pretty limited investment |
| 06:57.51 | thebolt | nah.. it is ~10% customs (or so) and then 25% VAT on the total (ie value+shipping+customs) |
| 06:58.09 | kai | zikes |
| 06:58.13 | kai | yikes as well |
| 06:58.24 | kai | silly keyboard changes |
| 06:58.25 | thebolt | well, we have 25% general VAT on pretty much eveything |
| 06:58.29 | kai | yeah |
| 06:58.39 | thebolt | but yea, it is stupid that they apply VAT on top of customs :P |
| 06:58.42 | kai | and people complain about the 19% here |
| 06:58.52 | coppro | 5% here... |
| 06:58.53 | kai | well, technically they do that here as well |
| 06:59.34 | thebolt | coppro: :P moving to such a country soon (5% general sales tax.. 16% income tax in lowest bracket and 35% in highest.. and about 20% corporate tax iirc) |
| 06:59.35 | kai | but I think you don't have to pay customs on goods sent to you that don't exceed a value of.. er.. 175EUR, I think |
| 07:00.05 | kai | here, that is |
| 07:00.35 | kai | thebolt: an probably no unemployment benefits, no health-care and no retirement funds |
| 07:01.08 | thebolt | kai: actually you do have health-care.. but you have (if you have a resident visa or citizenship) have to pay for that monthly |
| 07:01.31 | thebolt | kai: but yea.. i am not complaining, i have no problem paying 35% income tax here (lowest bracket) as it has given me free education etc :) |
| 07:02.05 | thebolt | kai: also unemployment is pretty uncommon.. some of my taiwanese friends told me they reported a lot on unemployment right now, it is apparent record high at 4%... |
| 07:02.21 | kai | ok, fair enough |
| 07:02.58 | thebolt | apparently a few years ago it was ~1% |
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| 07:03.25 | thiago_home | 1-2% is the point where it's considered "no unemployment" |
| 07:03.34 | thiago_home | 0 would mean no one is changing jobs and that's bad |
| 07:03.44 | thebolt | yea |
| 07:03.59 | thebolt | well, changing jobs they do (at least the people I know) |
| 07:04.12 | thebolt | does not seem to be a big problem to quit your job if you are unsatisfied and then find another |
| 07:04.20 | thebolt | (not many people do that here) |
| 07:04.22 | MostAwesomeDude | Unemployment and inflation are related; you can't force one down without sending the other sky-high. |
| 07:04.30 | MostAwesomeDude | Of course, I'm from Oregon, so... |
| 07:04.47 | coppro | Well, they are correlated, but it's not like it's a seesaw |
| 07:05.24 | coppro | A better-managed country might have them both lower than a worse-managed one |
| 07:06.45 | coppro | income tax here (Canada) ranges from 0-29% (15% in the first taxed bracket) by the federal government, with additional, varying rates by province/territory. Social services are medium |
| 07:08.46 | thebolt | income tax here in sweden is a bit complex.. lowest bracket (which everyone pays basically) is all to the city and county (health care is county-based), 30-33% (depending on which city you live in).. if you have higher income then you start paying central income tax in a number o fbrackets (5-22% or so) |
| 07:09.15 | thebolt | only thing you can say though si that they have simplifeid the beurocracy related to paying tax and income tax declaration terribly much :) |
| 07:09.27 | kai | he, I wish |
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| 07:10.02 | kai | so far I didn't earn enough to pay income tax, but this year I'll have to deal with that |
| 07:10.15 | thiago_home | receives a pre-filled electronic form and a notification by SMS |
| 07:10.26 | thebolt | thiago_home: same here |
| 07:10.27 | thiago_home | then I just have to review it |
| 07:10.41 | coppro | Canada you do it yourself (or hire an accountant) |
| 07:10.42 | thebolt | two years ago i did my signing iof it via SMS |
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| 07:10.53 | thiago_home | this year I did my taxes by doing nothing |
| 07:10.57 | thiago_home | the pre-filled form was correct |
| 07:10.59 | thebolt | didn't have anything to change from the pre-filled one |
| 07:11.13 | thebolt | thiago_home: ah, we don't have silent consent yet, but they are about to add that.. you still have to sign it, somehow |
| 07:11.20 | thebolt | (phyiscally, online or SMS) |
| 07:11.36 | thiago_home | silent consent here |
| 07:11.57 | thiago_home | but I don't think taxes here can go as high as 55% like you said |
| 07:11.57 | thebolt | thiago_home: where is that? |
| 07:12.03 | thiago_home | I think the limit is 45% |
| 07:12.04 | thiago_home | Norway |
| 07:12.22 | thebolt | ah ok |
| 07:12.35 | thiago_home | but then we have wealth tax... |
| 07:12.41 | thebolt | well, in much sweden and norway are very similar in cases like this |
| 07:12.47 | thiago_home | (income tax is the first derivative of the wealth tax) |
| 07:12.58 | thebolt | we used to, until a few years ago |
| 07:13.03 | thebolt | never affected me though :P |
| 07:13.54 | kai | sighs |
| 07:14.02 | coppro | thiago_home: I assume you don't mean mathematically; do you mean property taxes and such? |
| 07:14.17 | kai | I just realized the beagleboard-xm is shipping in the US |
| 07:14.17 | thiago_home | coppro: I mean that income is the first derivative of wealth |
| 07:14.36 | coppro | oh |
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| 07:14.38 | coppro | ok |
| 07:14.56 | coppro | what do you mean by 'wealth tax' then? |
| 07:15.09 | thiago_home | you pay 0.5% of your wealth to the government |
| 07:15.51 | thiago_home | if you had 1 million crowns in the bank, you'd pay (1 million - lowest value) * 0.5% |
| 07:16.08 | thebolt | when we had wealth tax it was 1.5% of any wealth above 180k euro (if you where single, 320k euro for families) |
| 07:16.16 | thiago_home | so that's about 1000 crowns |
| 07:16.19 | coppro | Ah, interesting. We don't have that hear |
| 07:16.27 | coppro | *here |
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| 07:17.35 | thebolt | (we used to have similar tax for houses as well, so if you had a house with high value and no big mortages then you would pay tax twice on it) |
| 07:18.01 | thiago_home | there's some kind of property tax, but I don't know how it works |
| 07:18.04 | thiago_home | not a homeowner yet |
| 07:18.54 | thebolt | :) |
| 07:18.59 | coppro | I suppose the government opts for a simplistic approach to calculation of taxes, then, if they do it for everyone? |
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| 07:19.59 | thebolt | coppro: what do you mean? |
| 07:20.40 | coppro | well, here there are all sorts of complex deductions you can make; I imagine if the government takes it on themselves, they don't track all this stuff for you? |
| 07:22.19 | coppro | (example: As part of the stimulus package, people were eligible to claim up to a $1500 on taxable income if it was spent on home renovation |
| 07:22.58 | thebolt | no, for any deductions you have to keep track of that yourself (we in fact have similar deduction for home renovation) |
| 07:23.07 | thebolt | but you can still enter them in the online system |
| 07:23.12 | coppro | ah |
| 07:24.26 | coppro | do you have to count additional sources of income, too, or only formal employment? |
| 07:24.26 | thebolt | a couple of summers ago i had a summer job in other part of the country, thus i could deduct the extra cost of living (and some travels home).. made my tax declaration online, just had to enter the amounts there |
| 07:24.41 | thebolt | all incomes are taxable |
| 07:25.01 | thebolt | but there is a general deduction of ~2k euro |
| 07:25.37 | thebolt | also incomes from capital, such as selling shares etc, is taxed in a different way.. but the gov. tracks most of that as well |
| 07:25.50 | coppro | cool |
| 07:26.05 | coppro | I suppose our government will get a system like that in 15 years or so |
| 07:26.22 | thiago_home | I think I pay taxes even if I don't sell the shares |
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| 07:26.29 | thiago_home | if they gain in value |
| 07:26.40 | thebolt | all employers and banks report stuff like that to the tax authorities (and in fact it is public information, so you can go and ask them about anyones tax situation) |
| 07:26.44 | thebolt | thiago_home: eh, that sounds strange |
| 07:26.56 | thebolt | thiago_home: shares don't really have any gain (or loss) for you until you sell them |
| 07:27.08 | thiago_home | that's when you realise the gain |
| 07:27.22 | thiago_home | but you did have a financial gain |
| 07:27.32 | thiago_home | it's just that your gain was in non-liquid assets |
| 07:27.33 | Ivanovic | uhm, no |
| 07:27.57 | Ivanovic | then you could also state that you had a loss even though you never sold the stuff |
| 07:28.22 | Ivanovic | regarding taxing it is normally only relevant to look at the difference between buying and selling |
| 07:28.37 | thiago_home | if I buy $1000 worth of shares and at the end of the year they're valued at $1200, I had $200 gain |
| 07:28.43 | thiago_home | even though those $200 are not in my bank account |
| 07:29.00 | Ivanovic | but you don't have to *pay* taxes on those 200$ since you really don't have the money till you sell the shares |
| 07:29.09 | thiago_home | I think I do |
| 07:29.17 | Ivanovic | what you got to pay taxes on are any dividend the companies pay you |
| 07:29.18 | thebolt | i have very hard time believing any country would tax non-realised gains on shares |
| 07:29.28 | Ivanovic | thebolt: same here |
| 07:29.49 | kai | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.50 | thebolt | that would pretty much stop anyone from investing in that country |
| 07:30.01 | thiago_home | I'm pretty sure I have that in both Brazil and Norway |
| 07:30.30 | kai | shakes his fist at SLES11, Xen and admining in general |
| 07:30.50 | thiago_home | thinks admining is easier than understanding taxes |
| 07:30.55 | Ivanovic | hands kai some relaxing tea |
| 07:31.03 | kai | thiago_home: not sure |
| 07:31.15 | thiago_home | every April I have to relearn everything and it takes some doing |
| 07:31.24 | thiago_home | but admining it's straightforward :-) |
| 07:31.27 | kai | thiago_home: I've got two Xen VMs, and networking only ever works on one of them |
| 07:31.55 | kai | they seem to switch which of them is responding to arp requests once in a while, even if both of them are just running |
| 07:32.09 | kai | both react fine to their host machine as well |
| 07:32.24 | Ivanovic | outsch |
| 07:33.12 | thebolt | thiago_home: as far as i can find out norway use the same system as everyone else for taxing capital gains.. tax on realisation |
| 07:33.35 | kai | kernel logs show no indication as to what's going on, so I'm running out of ideas on what to check |
| 07:33.45 | thiago_home | thebolt: I'm sure they appeared on my tax declaration |
| 07:33.51 | thiago_home | thebolt: but maybe it was the wealth tax |
| 07:34.13 | thebolt | thiago_home: sure it was not tax on dividends? |
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| 07:35.28 | thiago_home | thebolt: technically I don't have the shares yet, but it's a "share promise" or something |
| 07:35.31 | thiago_home | no, it's not an option |
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| 07:36.52 | thiago_home | and I may be mistaking things for the investment funds |
| 07:37.26 | Waren | yo |
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| 12:42.31 | shreyas | anyone from india got their package/tracking no |
| 12:43.02 | kai | !package |
| 12:43.02 | socinfo | "package" is It's no good asking in here if anyone from XYZ already received a package. They're being sent out now, you will get a tracking number when yours is sent. Chill and code something useful. Also see !patience |
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| 12:43.44 | shreyas | !patience |
| 12:43.44 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 12:44.39 | Upthorn | !next |
| 12:44.39 | socinfo | "next" is July 12th, mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline |
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| 12:47.44 | rohitr | hey vivia! |
| 12:47.54 | vivia | hi rohitr |
| 12:48.54 | rohitr | vivia: got your package? |
| 12:49.39 | vivia | rohitr: yep :) |
| 12:49.43 | vivia | on friday |
| 12:50.23 | cdcs | I just recived my package! Now i'm wondering how i will get the money.... |
| 12:50.44 | rohitr | cdcs: electronically ;-) |
| 12:51.19 | thebolt | kai: so getting a bb-xm asap? ;) |
| 12:51.21 | cdcs | rephrasing... the best way to get the money out off the prepaid card |
| 12:51.28 | cggaurav | vivia: Where do you live? |
| 12:51.59 | kai | thebolt: hm, not sure yet |
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| 12:53.23 | kai | thebolt: specialcomputing doesn't have a case yet |
| 12:53.36 | kai | but maybe I'll just build my own for a change |
| 12:54.01 | rohitr | cdcs:which country? The best way differs from country to country. You might have better luck on your countries' GSoC mailing list. |
| 12:54.22 | vivia | cggaurav: greece |
| 12:54.47 | thebolt | kai: okay, i am (so far) running the BB i have without any case at all, not really needed when all you are doing is having it on the desk |
| 12:54.50 | cdcs | rohitr, Portugal |
| 12:55.18 | kai | thebolt: I've got a nice acrylic case from http://specialcomp.com/ |
| 12:55.21 | thebolt | won't get an xm though.. the rev c one i have is closest to my target platform ;) |
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| 12:56.03 | kai | thebolt: http://kblin.blogspot.com/2009/06/huston-we-have-login.html |
| 12:56.24 | kai | that's the B6 |
| 12:56.48 | thebolt | kai: :) think i have a c3 |
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| 12:57.29 | kai | the screws don't reach up through the top plate's mounting holes, so I can stack my C3 on top of that, with the longer screws going from top to the bottom |
| 12:57.40 | kai | so I have a two-beagle stack that's pretty stable |
| 12:58.05 | kai | but maybe I'll go build a little beagle-rack if I get anoter one ;) |
| 12:58.21 | thebolt | ;) |
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| 12:59.18 | thebolt | i like my torpedo-som.. smae processor + as much memory/flash as the beagleboard (and similar power management) but its 15x27 mm big ;) |
| 12:59.53 | kai | nice |
| 13:00.08 | kai | the xm looks interesting for the on-board ethernet |
| 13:00.23 | thebolt | (or well, technically it is a smaller pitch capsule than the BB, but still) |
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| 13:02.09 | thebolt | the connectors are a bit more specialized than the BB though (two 100-pin high density connectors on the bottom) |
| 13:02.40 | kai | well, would be a bit hard to fit all the ones the beagle has on 15x27mm |
| 13:02.56 | kai | anyhow, need to go to a talk, bbl |
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| 15:18.24 | Stattrav | carols: Any info on the shipments to India ? |
| 15:18.34 | carols | Stattrav: they're all shipped. |
| 15:19.20 | Stattrav | ohh haven't recieved the tracking number yet. when was it? |
| 15:19.23 | Stattrav | thanks |
| 15:20.07 | kai | hey carols |
| 15:20.13 | carols | hi kai |
| 15:20.24 | carols | Stattrav: you will receive it via email. |
| 15:20.26 | kai | so I can change !package now? :) |
| 15:20.45 | carols | kai: please do :-) |
| 15:20.59 | in3xes | carols, all are shipped? you mentioned in a mail some of them are delayed |
| 15:21.11 | Stattrav | carols: i meant when was it shipped. anyways shall wait for the mail |
| 15:21.13 | gautam | !package |
| 15:21.13 | socinfo | "package" is It's no good asking in here if anyone from XYZ already received a package. They're being sent out now, you will get a tracking number when yours is sent. Chill and code something useful. Also see !patience |
| 15:21.14 | carols | in3xes: all are shipped. |
| 15:21.20 | in3xes | Okay, Thanks |
| 15:21.31 | carols | actually, i think you should keep !package the way it is :-) |
| 15:21.36 | carols | i like it :-) |
| 15:21.41 | gautam | !patience |
| 15:21.42 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 15:21.51 | kai | !forget package |
| 15:21.51 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:22.25 | carols | :-) |
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| 15:23.03 | kai | !learn package as It's no good asking in here if anyone from XYZ already received a package. They have been sent out, you will get a tracking number. Chill and code something useful. Also see !patience |
| 15:23.03 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 15:23.17 | carols | in3xes: we had huge issues with brazilian and indian customs, but they're resolved for the time being. |
| 15:23.54 | asleo | carols: I have the number, but the fedex web site show that doesn't have information about the package |
| 15:24.18 | carols | asleo: fedex is delayed in updating their site sometimes |
| 15:24.22 | carols | !patience |
| 15:24.22 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 15:24.25 | carols | :-) |
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| 15:24.37 | asleo | carols: thanks :D |
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| 15:27.06 | in3xes | caden, Ok, thanks |
| 15:27.17 | in3xes | caden, sorry |
| 15:27.41 | ajuonline | carols: goodmorning! can i post to announce list? |
| 15:27.55 | carols | ajuonline: sure, if you like :-) |
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| 15:28.11 | ajuonline | carols: all packages are sent. hmm ok. will post :) |
| 15:28.23 | carols | ajuonline: ok |
| 15:28.42 | ajuonline | carols: are you sending chocolates with them for students? ;) |
| 15:29.00 | carols | ajuonline: i would like some chocolates :-) |
| 15:29.04 | carols | got any? |
| 15:29.09 | ajuonline | ha ha. always stocked :D |
| 15:29.15 | ajuonline | hands carols some chocolates |
| 15:29.27 | carols | munches chocolates |
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| 15:29.30 | carols | thanks ajuonline :-) |
| 15:30.04 | carols | serves tea and cookies |
| 15:31.05 | rohitr | but not the chocolates :O |
| 15:31.30 | ajuonline | carols: pm |
| 15:31.35 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
| 15:31.48 | carols | hey MatthewWilkes :-) |
| 15:32.04 | MatthewWilkes | How's it going? |
| 15:33.05 | carols | MatthewWilkes: good. at the USENIX conference this week :-) |
| 15:33.08 | carols | MatthewWilkes: how you? |
| 15:34.33 | MatthewWilkes | Working 9 hour days and moving house - coping. |
| 15:34.46 | dberkholz | is 9 hours supposed to be a lot? |
| 15:34.58 | MatthewWilkes | dberkholz: It's more than I'd like to be doing while moving. |
| 15:35.10 | carols | MatthewWilkes: where you moving to? |
| 15:35.12 | dberkholz | yeah, moving sucks however much you're working. |
| 15:35.23 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Berlin, flight's on sunday morning. |
| 15:35.35 | carols | MatthewWilkes: enjoy! im going to be there later this year |
| 15:35.44 | carols | going to Oktoberfest and taking some time off :-) |
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| 15:35.51 | MatthewWilkes | Ooh, cool! |
| 15:36.20 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you just going for the summer? or going to stay a while? |
| 15:36.26 | MatthewWilkes | 15 months |
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| 15:36.44 | MatthewWilkes | Long enough to make taxes a right pain in the arse :) |
| 15:36.44 | carols | MatthewWilkes: that's a pretty fair amount of time :-) |
| 15:36.58 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i hear ya :-) |
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| 15:41.06 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Let me know if you're ever in town and at a loose end - I'll buy you one of the many drinks you're owed already |
| 15:41.27 | carols | MatthewWilkes: aw, thanks. we could certainly do a gsoc meetup or something :-) |
| 15:41.52 | MatthewWilkes | I think they did a mini-one of Linuxtag 2 weeks ago |
| 15:41.59 | MatthewWilkes | for* |
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| 15:42.56 | carols | yeah, we're doing a gsoc bof here at usenix in boston tomorrow |
| 15:43.17 | carols | thinks there should be gsoc stuff all over the world all the time |
| 15:43.18 | carols | :-) |
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| 15:49.51 | parul | what things do we need to submit for mid term evaluations ? |
| 15:50.33 | Stattrav | parul: talk to your org and mentor |
| 15:50.57 | carols | parul: you'll receive an email about it as well the week before |
| 15:51.18 | parul | Stattrav: means there is nothing required specifically by Google. |
| 15:51.36 | ajuonline | parul: u need to fill up an evaluation form, |
| 15:51.47 | carols | parul: you need to fill out an evaluation and so does your mentor. |
| 15:52.33 | parul | do we have a template from last year, just tempting to see it. |
| 15:52.57 | ajuonline | parul: its on the mailing list, i think.. |
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| 15:53.52 | carols | parul: the questions will also be posted beforehand per the evaluation FAQ |
| 15:54.37 | carols | parul: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#evaluations |
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| 15:57.26 | parul | carols: thanks. In last year's page it says that page has been removed. |
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| 15:58.15 | carols | parul: its possible. do you need the questions more than a week in advance of the midterm window? |
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| 16:00.00 | parul | carols: nor necessarily, I asked because probably I wouldn't be having a dedicated internet connection during that period and could access it for a few hours probably, so it would have been better if I could ponder upon them earlier |
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| 16:03.11 | parul | ajuonline: its not there on the group. can you give an overview of the types of questions ? |
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| 16:07.04 | ajuonline | parul: i dunno how old is this but, http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web |
| 16:07.12 | ajuonline | parul: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/student-survey-questions this one, |
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| 16:19.11 | ajuonline | !package |
| 16:19.12 | socinfo | "package" is It's no good asking in here if anyone from XYZ already received a package. They have been sent out, you will get a tracking number. Chill and code something useful. Also see !patience |
| 16:20.33 | Kosma | !patience |
| 16:20.33 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
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| 16:20.51 | in3xes | try !next eh? |
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| 16:40.39 | summatusmentis | !timeline |
| 16:40.40 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 16:43.29 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: <3 |
| 16:43.40 | summatusmentis | hi :) |
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| 16:43.49 | summatusmentis | I was just mildly curious as to when midterms were |
| 16:45.04 | smtms | finding the timeline on the gsoc website is a daunting task |
| 16:45.21 | adifire | !timeline |
| 16:45.21 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 16:45.29 | dberkholz | umm, go to the main site and search for the text "timeline"? |
| 16:46.05 | summatusmentis | it's even a link on the left hand nav bar |
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| 20:19.58 | smtms | works for me |
| 20:20.19 | smtms | i.e. it loads some page |
| 20:20.19 | drt24 | it has been failing a bit for me |
| 20:20.31 | vivia | smtms: it loads the page, but then i enter my card number and it keeps waiting |
| 20:20.40 | smtms | vivia, which means it is down? |
| 20:21.20 | drt24 | well: https://www.prepaid.citi.com/google gives me "Service Temporary Unavailable!" |
| 20:21.52 | drt24 | and I got an "unexpected function" or similar when I entered my card number |
| 20:22.09 | lolfrenz | where did you find that link, drt24? |
| 20:22.18 | vivia | drt24: been getting that too |
| 20:22.30 | drt24 | lolfrenz: on the letter the card came on |
| 20:22.39 | lolfrenz | oh, I see |
| 20:23.21 | lolfrenz | CITI offered google a whole webpage on their website? :o |
| 20:23.59 | vivia | and not enough capacity on their servers |
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| 20:45.21 | smtms | it's a miracle - Google paying students |
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| 22:32.26 | masterX | hello people! I need a help. I am trying to register my google prepaid card and in the middle of this I will asked about some Postal Code (Which belongs to address on account). What does this code mean and wher I can get it ? |
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| 22:33.10 | Cerealklr | A postal code (known in various countries as a post code, postcode, or ZIP code) is a series of letters and/or digits appended to a postal address for the purpose of sorting mail. |
| 22:33.18 | Cerealklr | Presumably, at least. |
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| 22:34.34 | masterX | ok , I know what is it, but what is the code that belongs to address on account ? |
| 22:34.37 | Kosma | masterX: it's a five-digit number, a part of the address printed on the slip of paper the card was attached to |
| 22:34.54 | masterX | ok |
| 22:34.57 | masterX | Kosma thanx |
| 22:35.57 | masterX | I didn't understand which ZIP they need for it :) |
| 22:36.19 | masterX | but now is ok |
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| 22:46.20 | masterX | OMG, the server prepaid.citi is realy slowly |
| 22:46.55 | smtms | omg, citi is really <censored> <censored> bank |
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| 22:49.05 | masterX | smtms: :) |
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| 22:54.35 | masterX | o it realy <censored> |
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| 22:55.10 | masterX | I am not sure now that I will have a chance to use my credit card |
| 22:57.17 | smtms | masterX, it's not a credit card |
| 22:57.43 | masterX | ok , for me VISA was always s crdit card |
| 22:58.20 | Kosma | VISA makes different card types |
| 22:58.31 | Kosma | debit, credit, prepaid, and maybe others |
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| 23:03.37 | masterX | next trouble ... I will asked about my mobile number it is longer than placeholder for it :-D |
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| 23:04.04 | Kosma | just leave it empty (not zeros) |
| 23:04.22 | masterX | ok |
| 23:05.56 | masterX | waw! Kosma, thanx a lot! |
| 23:06.05 | masterX | it works... OMG |
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| 23:35.59 | Robin___ | I'm taking independent study. |
| 23:36.07 | Robin___ | However, I thought only 1 packet was due today. |
| 23:36.14 | Robin___ | So, I have 1 more packet + the new packet I have. |
| 23:36.27 | Robin___ | For the next two Wed., I'll be taking 3 tests in 2 hours. |
| 23:36.30 | Robin___ | On US History. |
| 23:36.33 | Robin___ | Do you think I can do it? |
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| 23:40.06 | Robin___ | Wait, wrong channel! |
| 23:40.08 | Robin___ | Sorry! |
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