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| 01:27.39 | sploving | !next |
| 01:27.39 | socinfo | "next" is (#1) The community bonding period (http://tinyurl.com/4w3kfm) has started! Coding will start on May 24., or (#2) For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 |
| 01:30.13 | sploving | hi all, there are four mailing list: Announcement Only List, Program Discussion, Student List, mentors list. I am a gsoc student. Do I need to subscribe the former three list? |
| 01:32.10 | sploving | So many e-mail every day, I am afraid of missing some import info. What is the most important list in the three: Announcement Only List, Program Discussion List, or Students List |
| 01:38.59 | ojwb | sploving: some people just ignore anything on the student list that isn't from @google.com (and perhaps a few other addresses) |
| 01:39.36 | ojwb | LH used to use a couple of @gmail.com addresses too, not noticed what carols does |
| 01:41.30 | sploving | oh |
| 01:43.20 | sploving | thx |
| 01:43.52 | ojwb | not sure if it's a bad idea to just unsubscribe or not |
| 01:44.06 | ojwb | if you do, make sure you watch the timeline |
| 01:47.03 | summatusmentis | I wouldn't unsubscribe |
| 01:47.12 | summatusmentis | it's Google's offical way of communicating with students |
| 01:52.23 | sploving | maybe use the google reader to subscribe them is a better way |
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| 01:56.35 | summatusmentis | you can read them online through Google Groups |
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| 02:16.21 | robbyoconnor | carol ALWAYS uses @google.com |
| 02:16.38 | robbyoconnor | lh uses lhospo @ gmail DOT COM |
| 02:16.47 | robbyoconnor | i think |
| 02:18.23 | ojwb | or mebelh |
| 02:18.29 | ojwb | or a google address |
| 02:20.43 | robbyoconnor | That's her personal i think lol |
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| 02:40.48 | cj | is official now |
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| 05:53.30 | vshader | is away: Gone away for now |
| 05:55.30 | ojwb | vshader: i guess being kicked from the channel wasn't enough of a hint? |
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| 05:57.50 | JeroenDeDauw | Where can I find the foreign certification form? |
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| 06:03.40 | vshader | is back. |
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| 06:09.09 | LawnGnome | JeroenDeDauw: The New Student Info thread on the students mailing list has been covering this, but basically, Google's legal people are still checking over the new form for this year, so it hasn't been released yet. Carol will post an update once it's ready, I'm sure. |
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| 06:41.44 | JeroenDeDauw | LawnGnome: Ok, thanks :) |
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| 06:45.36 | thebolt | Morning |
| 06:46.13 | sploving | hi thebolt |
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| 10:33.28 | mkarnicki | as far as I remember, 2010 foreign certification form is pending lawyer's approval before putting it up on the site? |
| 10:34.26 | LawnGnome | mkarnicki: Pretty much. |
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| 10:41.48 | mkarnicki | LawnGnome: yup, I just run through the mail log. it should be up soon. (and ppl are still struggling to download the 2009 version, like it was of any use) |
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| 10:52.49 | infinity0 | why do they need a different one for this year? |
| 10:53.21 | adifire | it need year 2010 in the form. |
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| 10:55.30 | ojwb | infinity0: I would guess the lawyers need to review it in case of changes to relevant laws |
| 10:57.28 | tulcod | wake up guys, bureaucracy exists even in places like google |
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| 13:32.05 | drt24 | just changed the 2009 form and submitted it and that seemed to work :-) |
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| 13:36.05 | adifire | drt24: Carol said that the new form will be posted once lawyers see it.. |
| 13:36.21 | drt24 | indeed |
| 13:36.51 | adifire | hmmm.. |
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| 14:34.47 | socinfo | "next" is (#1) The community bonding period (http://tinyurl.com/4w3kfm) has started! Coding will start on May 24., or (#2) For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 |
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| 16:40.35 | GG | hi |
| 16:41.29 | carols | serves some tea and cookies for everyone |
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| 16:42.08 | merwok | Itâs sad to see Google hires women for stereotypical tasks. |
| 16:42.16 | merwok | The tea is good, still. |
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| 16:43.08 | carols | merwok: it is in fact possible that i enjoy serving tea and cookies without being a stereotypical female |
| 16:43.22 | merwok | I know. :) |
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| 16:43.23 | carols | merwok: its als in fact possible that google didnt hire me to do this and i choose to do it on my own |
| 16:43.33 | merwok | ² :) |
| 16:43.38 | carols | merwok: and im a nice person |
| 16:43.49 | carols | munches some cookies |
| 16:43.50 | merwok | Iâm sure you are. |
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| 16:44.34 | merwok | I was once in a couple with a young woman who enjoyed cookind, and I liked doing the dishes. |
| 16:44.39 | merwok | cooking* |
| 16:45.08 | carols | merwok: then what's sad about me serving cookies and tea? |
| 16:45.10 | merwok | So I was just being ironic :) |
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| 16:46.11 | gevaerts | thinks there's nothing sad about carols serving cookies and tea. In fact, he's very grateful for it! |
| 16:46.12 | carols | ok |
| 16:46.17 | carols | thank you gevaerts |
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| 16:46.36 | rohitr | concurs and thanks carols |
| 16:46.46 | carols | you are quite welcome rohitr |
| 16:46.56 | gevaerts | carols: no, thank *you*! |
| 16:47.09 | carols | no, no. thank you gevaerts :-) |
| 16:47.52 | Neo-- | muffins. they're way to go |
| 16:47.53 | Neo-- | >( |
| 16:47.54 | Neo-- | :) |
| 16:47.55 | mlankhorst | hoi carolss |
| 16:48.12 | carols | hey mlankhorst how's it going? |
| 16:48.19 | carols | mm muffins |
| 16:48.32 | carols | serves some muffins and coffee |
| 16:48.36 | carols | definitely needs coffee. |
| 16:48.38 | Neo-- | :) |
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| 16:49.23 | shm | carols: How can you deliver me your cookies? ;[ |
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| 16:49.38 | YuviPanda | shm: probably in your welcome kit :) |
| 16:49.39 | mlankhorst | carols: good, you? |
| 16:49.45 | carols | shm: you going to be in california any time soon? :-) |
| 16:50.01 | carols | wishes she could ship cookies with the welcome packets |
| 16:50.08 | carols | what a customs nightmare |
| 16:50.16 | merwok | Does anybody want French crêpes? (Something like thin, large pancakes) |
| 16:50.22 | carols | mlankhorst: good. sooo busy its just crazy, but good. |
| 16:50.26 | mlankhorst | ;) |
| 16:50.35 | topfs2 | btw carols do you want us to send proof of enrolment asap and wait to send the tax form or both in same email? |
| 16:51.07 | carols | topfs2: i'd prefer them in one email, and the deadline isn't for another week and a half (and probably a little bit more because of the foreign cert issue) so no rush |
| 16:51.21 | topfs2 | good, will do it like that then |
| 16:51.27 | carols | merwok: i'd take some crepes if you have some nutella :-) |
| 16:51.34 | shm | carols: Not really. ;[ |
| 16:52.02 | carols | shm: aw, well then you'll have to settle for the virtual kind for now. |
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| 16:52.05 | merwok | carols, sane people always have nutella to go with crêpes. |
| 16:52.16 | carols | merwok: good. :-) |
| 16:52.39 | rohitr | merwok: and insane people? |
| 16:52.44 | topfs2 | isch nutella ain't good on anything |
| 16:52.53 | tulcod | insane people eat american food |
| 16:52.54 | topfs2 | now peanout butter on them is awesome |
| 16:52.57 | merwok | I like to eat the first and last crêpes of the meal with sugar, though, just to enjoy the pure taste of crêpes. |
| 16:53.41 | merwok | topfs2, different strokes :) I have pain agreeing to the existence of peanut butter, you see. |
| 16:54.14 | schumaml | topfs2: because nutella should be eaten pure? |
| 16:54.57 | schumaml | marmite crêpes! |
| 16:55.13 | merwok | Marmite? |
| 16:55.19 | topfs2 | merwok, same for me and nutella, freaking hate it. ofc. I dislike almost anything with chocolate. (yes I know, I'm weird :p) |
| 16:57.14 | schumaml | merwok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite |
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| 16:58.16 | bobbens | mmm, printed foreign certificate says 2009 not 2010 |
| 16:58.20 | bobbens | is that an issue? :) |
| 16:58.25 | tulcod | yes |
| 16:58.39 | merwok | schumaml, ok. âMarmiteâ is a kind of big bellied cooking pot in French, so I didnât get what you meant :) |
| 16:58.40 | bobbens | cross it out and put 2010? :) |
| 16:58.50 | tulcod | no, wait for carols to send an updated form |
| 16:58.50 | GG | bobbens: don't you follow the gsoc student list? |
| 16:58.52 | merwok | bobbens, you may want to read the gsoc students list. |
| 16:59.02 | bobbens | I followed the first email |
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| 16:59.12 | carols | i promise, i will send out the updated form as soon as I have it |
| 16:59.17 | carols | grumbles about the lawyers |
| 16:59.23 | carols | and I will extend the deadline |
| 16:59.29 | carols | have some tea! |
| 16:59.32 | tulcod | WOOHOO! EXTENDED DEADLINE! |
| 16:59.43 | bobbens | carols: so there's not an updated 2010 version yet? |
| 16:59.45 | tulcod | grabs a chocolate cookie and eats it |
| 16:59.50 | carols | bobbens: no, not yet. |
| 16:59.57 | carols | grumbles again about the lawyers |
| 17:00.02 | bobbens | carols: ok, thanks |
| 17:00.16 | bobbens | you might want to send the mail also directly to all the students, easier to catch than the ML |
| 17:00.19 | carols | bobbens: no problem. there will be an email to the students list the second I have it |
| 17:00.28 | bobbens | ok |
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| 17:00.37 | bobbens | early bird gets the bad form :) |
| 17:00.41 | mkarnicki | pours some tee and sits back on the couch |
| 17:00.42 | merwok | bobbens, I think the students list == mails to the students. |
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| 17:00.54 | bobbens | yes, but doesn't go straight to the inbox :) |
| 17:01.06 | mkarnicki | bobbens: a mail was sent already. |
| 17:01.13 | bobbens | at least lh last year and year before would send "important" emails straight to users instead of list |
| 17:01.21 | bobbens | probably should just modify my filters :) |
| 17:01.22 | mkarnicki | bobbens: how come.. it lands in my inbox |
| 17:01.23 | merwok | Well, you know what they say: The early bird gets the worm, but itâs the second mouse that gets the cheese (from the mouse trap) |
| 17:01.29 | bobbens | mkarnicki: most people filter lists |
| 17:01.32 | merwok | bobbens, how so? I get email in my inbox. |
| 17:01.40 | merwok | Oh, ok. Why not. |
| 17:01.44 | mkarnicki | bobbens: that's why you missed it perhaps? :P |
| 17:01.51 | merwok | I filter lists, but I read them later. |
| 17:02.03 | mkarnicki | bobbens: take example of merwok |
| 17:02.05 | bobbens | I don't enjoy reading 100+ mails a day on the gsoc list :) |
| 17:02.26 | merwok | bobbens, why not? I get them in one digest mail that I read in five minutes and itâs done. |
| 17:02.29 | bobbens | I skim through topics every so often, but if there's something wrong in the first email I won't catch that |
| 17:02.29 | mkarnicki | bobbens: imagine if carols enjoys answering the same question multiple times |
| 17:02.46 | mkarnicki | or any of us, actually. |
| 17:02.51 | tulcod | that would be sick... |
| 17:02.57 | tulcod | just the thought of it... |
| 17:03.02 | mkarnicki | you should try reading it from time to time at least. |
| 17:03.07 | tulcod | i mean, we'd need psychological help |
| 17:03.28 | schumaml | folders + threading + manual filtering on top posting, stupid nicknames, ... helps a lot with mailing lists ;) |
| 17:03.29 | merwok | fetches some marmelade for carolsâ next crêpe |
| 17:03.38 | carols | thanks merwok :-) |
| 17:03.52 | mkarnicki | pours everyone more tee |
| 17:03.58 | carols | sips some tea |
| 17:04.03 | carols | ah tea. |
| 17:04.06 | tulcod | yuck, tea |
| 17:04.09 | carols | goes back to answering emails |
| 17:04.13 | tulcod | throws the tea out and grabs a cup of coffee |
| 17:04.16 | tulcod | espresso, actually |
| 17:04.18 | mkarnicki | tulcod: ;D |
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| 17:04.37 | mkarnicki | tulcod: how u dare! :D |
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| 17:05.29 | mkarnicki | did the stat's (how many ppl from what countries) get already published somewhere? |
| 17:05.38 | tulcod | yeah, carols, we want stats! |
| 17:05.49 | mkarnicki | tulcod: shhh, she's reading mails |
| 17:05.54 | tulcod | f*** the new form, we want stats! |
| 17:07.41 | rohitr | : :-O |
| 17:07.42 | bkgood | goodness pushy today |
| 17:08.00 | merwok | Stats are just nerd porn. |
| 17:08.05 | tulcod | yeah! |
| 17:08.46 | mkarnicki | we want nerd porn then, merwok ! ;) |
| 17:09.17 | rohitr | merwork : so they are bad because they are porn for "nerds" or "porn" per se? |
| 17:10.18 | merwok | Because nerd porn is useless. |
| 17:10.47 | mkarnicki | merwok: what you're doing here then ;d |
| 17:10.57 | merwok | You know, tax forms will get us money, and money pays the rent or the food. Iâd say itâs higher priority. |
| 17:11.01 | mkarnicki | i'm here for some brain food ;) |
| 17:11.06 | merwok | mkarnicki, enjoying tea and cookies, of course. |
| 17:11.12 | mkarnicki | merwok: hehe |
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| 17:12.42 | carols | tulcod: would you rather I got your payment cards out on time or you got stats? :-P |
| 17:12.54 | tulcod | stats, definitely |
| 17:13.01 | mkarnicki | tulcod: =D |
| 17:13.21 | carols | tulcod: i will tell all the students i'm holding the payment cards at your order so i could write a blog post :-) |
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| 17:13.23 | carols | j/k |
| 17:13.24 | tulcod | you'll only put money on them after a week or so, so it doesn't matter if they arrive a few days later |
| 17:13.27 | mkarnicki | carols: we're not here for money, pffff... j/k ;) |
| 17:13.42 | tulcod | mkarnicki: yeah, just kidding, we're definitely here for the money XD |
| 17:13.42 | mkarnicki | carols: I mean I'm not really.. you know what I mean. |
| 17:13.55 | mkarnicki | tulcod: xD lol, I rewrote that ^ |
| 17:14.27 | carols | mkarnicki: i think so. :-) surely you're here for the stickers though, i'm sure ;-) |
| 17:14.41 | mkarnicki | tulcod: don't be picky, you know a language can sometimes confuse :d I'm here for the T-shirt! |
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| 17:15.06 | mkarnicki | carols: almost! t-shirt, if there's one! if not, the stickers then :D |
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| 17:15.36 | mkarnicki | I really like it in here, you guys :) |
| 17:15.41 | mkarnicki | blushes |
| 17:15.52 | vjsamuel | carols: when will you be posting the foreign certification form with the year 2010? or are we allowed to change the year, sign and mail it to you? |
| 17:16.09 | merwok | carols, oh my weâre getting STICKERS? |
| 17:16.13 | carols | vjsamuel: i will post it the second i have it from the lawyers so that everyone stops asking :-) |
| 17:16.37 | carols | vjsamuel: please dont change the year, just wait for the new one. its no rush, you have almost two full weeks to do it still |
| 17:16.52 | carols | merwok: i can neither confirm nor deny |
| 17:16.56 | carols | whistles innocently |
| 17:17.32 | vjsamuel | carols: oh. sorry for being a nuisance to you. i think many would have asked you by now. :( |
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| 17:17.51 | carols | vjsamuel: its quite alright. just be sure that i will send it to the mailing list as soon as i have it |
| 17:18.02 | carols | grumbles about lawyers |
| 17:18.20 | merwok | carols, Iâve cleaned my computer some weeks ago, I have two spots for stickers \o/ |
| 17:18.43 | merwok | (I cut off the windows metallic sticker with a knife years ago, I need to cover the scratches) |
| 17:18.47 | vjsamuel | carols: ok fine. the task at hand is simple enough to be completed with 20 odd minutes so im not worried. scan print sign scan and mail. ;) |
| 17:18.51 | carols | merwok: between you and me and the logged IRC channel, they look awesome this year :-) |
| 17:18.58 | merwok | Ha ha |
| 17:19.08 | carols | vjsamuel: exactly. :-) |
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| 17:19.55 | carols | all hail Catfish_Man |
| 17:20.10 | merwok | salutes Catfish_Man |
| 17:20.32 | Catfish_Man | at ease |
| 17:20.36 | Catfish_Man | hi folks :) |
| 17:21.22 | aoszkar_ | !stats |
| 17:21.23 | socinfo | "stats" is http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm |
| 17:21.38 | tulcod | that would be "ircstats" |
| 17:21.45 | mkarnicki | heheh |
| 17:21.49 | mlankhorst | hoi |
| 17:22.13 | aoszkar_ | !ircstats |
| 17:22.13 | socinfo | Error: "ircstats" is not a valid command. |
| 17:22.14 | tulcod | "Statistics generated on Wednesday 24 March 2010" |
| 17:22.18 | mlankhorst | carols: oo, can you send me a tshirt *with* summer of code stickers? ;) |
| 17:22.34 | aoszkar_ | tulcod: seems that stats is the one used on this channel |
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| 17:23.04 | carols | mlankhorst: tshirt? i know nothing of tshirts. :-) |
| 17:23.16 | merwok | whistles |
| 17:23.37 | mlankhorst | ;P |
| 17:23.42 | mlankhorst | later on you will! |
| 17:24.00 | mlankhorst | Or you'll have over 2000 unhappy people on your hand, muaaha |
| 17:24.21 | carols | mlankhorst: boy, you can say that again |
| 17:24.29 | carols | dont print a tshirt and wait for a riot |
| 17:24.31 | carols | :-) |
| 17:24.43 | mlankhorst | will just steal the google sign in mountain view |
| 17:24.55 | darkip | carols: you replied to say you'd received my Proof of enrollment + tax but i'd changed the year on the foreign certification form to 2010. Is this ok? |
| 17:25.08 | carols | darkip: if its not ill email you and let you know. |
| 17:25.13 | darkip | ok, thanks |
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| 17:25.22 | carols | darkip: for now its fine until the lawyers answer my questions |
| 17:25.27 | carols | grumbles about lawyers |
| 17:25.32 | carols | boy, im doing that a lot today |
| 17:25.40 | vivia | :) |
| 17:25.45 | bkgood | google has lawyers? blasphemy :) |
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| 17:26.04 | carols | bkgood: only the nice ones. :-) |
| 17:26.17 | Catfish_Man | carols: I got complimented on my GSoC tshirt yesterday while getting cheesesteaks :) |
| 17:26.21 | vivia | they are nice and still make you grumble? :) |
| 17:26.35 | bkgood | vivia: lawyers will be lawyers |
| 17:26.40 | Catfish_Man | vivia: I'm nice and robby still grumbles about me |
| 17:26.49 | carols | Catfish_Man: nice! i was just saying to ellen yesterday we need to do a display of all the tshirts and stickers from past years |
| 17:27.01 | vivia | bkgood: i know, my best friend is a lawyer and i'm teaching her basic computer skills |
| 17:27.08 | carols | vivia: well, they make me grumble because they take so long to do things. not because they're not nice :-) |
| 17:27.47 | merwok | Cheesesteacks? That sounds delicious. |
| 17:27.47 | mlankhorst | carols: :D |
| 17:27.52 | vivia | carols: ah that's ok then, everyone needs time to do things from time to time :) |
| 17:27.58 | Catfish_Man | merwok: yes indeed |
| 17:27.59 | rohitr | wow those are some pretty awesome stats, like r0bby was kicked and attacked the most :) |
| 17:28.10 | merwok | Like, beef and molten cheese? |
| 17:28.18 | carols | vivia: yes, but i've got 1,000 students asking me where they're forms are :-) |
| 17:28.50 | vivia | carols: fwd them all to the lawyers?... or am i being too evil :) |
| 17:29.00 | Catfish_Man | merwok: it's a very particular thing; Philadelphia invented them it seems, but there's a local (to SF) place that has extremely carefully replicated them |
| 17:29.10 | adifire | patience is a virtue.. :D |
| 17:29.19 | carols | vivia: a good idea, and one that definitely won't fly ;-) besides, its in my job description to field questions from students |
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| 17:29.22 | rohitr | adifire: that few have :) |
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| 17:30.27 | adifire | ya.. |
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| 17:31.52 | tulcod | carols: but ah - instead of spending so much time answering emails all containing the same questions... you could also spend that time studying laws and becoming one of those pesky lawyers to get over with this |
| 17:32.03 | tulcod | that might even save you time ;) |
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| 17:32.45 | vivia | tulcod: awww no.. |
| 17:32.51 | carols | tulcod: yes, but then i'd be a lawyer |
| 17:32.56 | carols | and not the GSoC admin |
| 17:33.00 | carols | I've got the better job :-) |
| 17:33.08 | vivia | lol so true |
| 17:33.11 | topfs2 | +1 |
| 17:33.15 | adifire | lols! |
| 17:33.37 | RoAkSoAx | lol |
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| 17:38.21 | vivia | that's when forums are useful. make one big thread "Where is my foreign certification form???" |
| 17:38.29 | vivia | one reply goes to everyone |
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| 17:39.18 | jbartosik | vivia: You there are threads on mailing lists |
| 17:39.46 | jbartosik | it's just that people happen to write in wrong threads on mailing lists more |
| 17:39.54 | mkarnicki | I've let myself quote one sentence of carols from #gsoc to calm them down.. |
| 17:40.08 | vivia | jbartosik: a mail is also more immediate |
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| 17:40.23 | mkarnicki | I wonder how many people have already sent in 2009 certification form, instead of waiting for a new one. |
| 17:40.25 | jbartosik | taht's why I prefere mailing lists :) |
| 17:40.30 | vivia | straight into your inbox to bug you (or into your gsoc label, but still) |
| 17:40.43 | vivia | they're for different uses |
| 17:41.00 | mkarnicki | went to get a nap, too tired |
| 17:41.00 | jbartosik | yeah |
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| 17:41.44 | vivia | and forums tend to get chaotic more easily. though this channel is surprisingly orderly |
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| 19:36.12 | socinfo | "next" is (#1) The community bonding period (http://tinyurl.com/4w3kfm) has started! Coding will start on May 24., or (#2) For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 |
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| 23:26.13 | Ori_B | hm, anyone know any bus companies that do international travel (NYC -> Ottawa, specifically) |
| 23:26.19 | Ori_B | (yeah, it's OT) |
| 23:26.36 | Ori_B | I can't seem to find any outside of Greyhound. |
| 23:26.38 | mlankhorst | too offtopic, this is not a general help channel.. |
| 23:26.48 | Ori_B | ok. |
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