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| 02:06.51 | gillux | I created a world map of all the students and mentors who wanted to show their position, based on the org page maps |
| 02:07.44 | gillux | it's kinda crap hack, but I guess some people are interested by such a map ? |
| 02:07.50 | Sylnai | gillux: could be quite interesting :) |
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| 02:08.29 | gillux | it actually requires to hide the referer, because of the google api key |
| 02:08.38 | gillux | it's here http://fr.dotsec.net/~gillux/gsoc/fullmap/ |
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| 03:38.27 | ajuonline | good morning, |
| 03:43.52 | svaksha | ajuonline: hey |
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| 03:57.50 | ajuonline | svaksha: hey hey, how are you? |
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| 04:04.27 | svaksha | ajuonline: fine , and you? still in delhi? |
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| 04:10.52 | ajuonline | svaksha: am good. not exactly there, but around.. |
| 04:11.43 | ajuonline | svaksha: where are you these days? whats happening? |
| 04:12.10 | ojwb | who am i? why am i here? what year is this? |
| 04:12.29 | ojwb | are those my feet? |
| 04:12.35 | ajuonline | ojwb: no. |
| 04:12.47 | coppro | ojwb: a random IRC n00b, who knows, The Year of the Linux Desktop (again), and no, respectively |
| 04:12.55 | ajuonline | ojwb: what pill did you take? |
| 04:14.44 | eugene | hello. |
| 04:15.42 | ojwb | ajuonline: the mauve pill |
| 04:15.52 | ojwb | your questions just seemed very general |
| 04:16.22 | svaksha | ajuonline still on planet earth, boring na :) |
| 04:16.30 | ajuonline | svaksha: blah. yes :P |
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| 05:38.44 | Sanshaptak | anybody from delhi ? |
| 05:39.47 | ojwb | Sanshaptak: ##gsoc-india might be a better place to ask |
| 05:40.09 | Sanshaptak | @ojwb thanks |
| 05:42.57 | rohitr | gillux: Great Effort with the map. |
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| 05:43.47 | kimelto | when are we supposed to send school paper and all? |
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| 05:49.52 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 08:10.05 | toobaz_ | Hello. This is slightly OT, but... does a "committer" have enough privilegies to upload a new release to a google code project? Or does he have to be "owner" for that project? |
| 08:10.54 | toobaz_ | ehm... sorry, after a lot of searching I found the answer in this precise moment, and it's "yes, he can" |
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| 11:39.03 | robbyoconnor | MEEEP MEEEEEEP |
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| 13:19.08 | bawr | BLOOP DE DOOP |
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| 14:43.54 | tulcod | can students cooperate on eachothers' projects? |
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| 14:46.34 | Kosashi | tulcod, I believe students can cooperate with anyone |
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| 14:46.57 | summatusmentis | define cooperate |
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| 14:47.33 | tulcod | we'll be generalizing the problem (we're solving extremely related problems) and implement specific hooks to make it work for our individual projects |
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| 14:50.41 | summatusmentis | collaboration is encouraged, but you're definitely supposed to do your own work |
| 14:50.52 | summatusmentis | talk to your org, and make sure they know what your plans are |
| 14:52.14 | tulcod | summatusmentis: what do you mean exactly by "you're definitely supposed to do your own work"? |
| 14:52.33 | summatusmentis | there needs to be a way for you to show that the work Google is paying you for was done by you |
| 14:52.37 | summatusmentis | ultimately |
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| 14:53.00 | summatusmentis | so "getting your friend to help you" on your project is not allowed |
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| 14:53.37 | tulcod | well yeah, but the plan is kinda to solve the problem is a bit more clever way instead of doing the same stuff three times |
| 14:54.02 | bawr | I think it was explicitly stated that cooperation (with roughly equal shares of work) betwen GSoC participants is encouraged. |
| 14:54.31 | summatusmentis | my only point is, run it by your organization, make sure they're ok with the plan |
| 14:54.46 | bawr | Yeah, +1. |
| 14:54.53 | tulcod | alright, thanks :) |
| 14:55.27 | wiktor_b | tulcod: i got your message in #gentoo-soc, as well as your email, yeah i do agree with all you said in the email :-) |
| 14:55.50 | tulcod | wiktor_b: hehe, good :) |
| 14:56.21 | wiktor_b | and you addressed all i said here too, so i have nothing to add for now :) |
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| 15:00.54 | ojwb | yes, at the end you need to upload a patch or series of patches or whatever which show the work you did |
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| 15:01.40 | bawr | ojwb: Well, then as long as they both use git or something similar, there shouldn't be a problem, no? |
| 15:01.59 | summatusmentis | Google wants you to upload a patchset specifically |
| 15:02.10 | tulcod | which shows only *my* changes, specifically? |
| 15:02.15 | summatusmentis | indeed |
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| 15:02.37 | tulcod | alright, then git would be a good idea... wait, that would be a good idea anyway ;) |
| 15:02.37 | bawr | tulcod: Use a version control system, then it becomes a non-issue. |
| 15:02.57 | bawr | Heh, race-condition'd. |
| 15:03.06 | tulcod | XD |
| 15:03.14 | ojwb | bawr: assuming they use it sanely, yes |
| 15:03.55 | ojwb | it's quite common to need to coach students into sane use of version control |
| 15:04.08 | ojwb | I suspect it's not taught in many CS courses |
| 15:04.26 | bawr | Pull, add your own changes, push, get the other side to pull... sounds simple. |
| 15:04.40 | tulcod | bawr: hey, murphy's law! |
| 15:04.56 | bawr | Ah, there's that. |
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| 15:06.01 | wiktor_b | there's a bit on VC in informatics at edinburgh university (scotland) |
| 15:06.28 | summatusmentis | wiktor_b: do you use AFS? |
| 15:06.31 | wiktor_b | as well as staff actively encouraging us to use it "for extra backup" when doing our own stuff |
| 15:06.50 | wiktor_b | summatusmentis: personally or at uni? |
| 15:06.55 | summatusmentis | at uni |
| 15:07.01 | wiktor_b | yeah |
| 15:07.14 | tulcod | the only software they're really advising us to use is latex, and even that is done badly... i heard the physics guys seriously get a tutorial on Word here |
| 15:07.18 | summatusmentis | :) one of the more active devs with OpenAFS works there, which is why I ask |
| 15:07.36 | summatusmentis | I was with OpenAFS during GSoC '08 and '09 |
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| 15:08.35 | bawr | AFS is that NFS that actually works, right? |
| 15:08.43 | wiktor_b | summatusmentis: the school of informatics uses afs on our own system, so i guess we contribute something back ;) |
| 15:09.03 | wiktor_b | bawr: yeah :) |
| 15:09.06 | summatusmentis | bawr: NFS isn't distributed |
| 15:09.13 | tulcod | summatusmentis: but it doesn't work, either |
| 15:09.32 | summatusmentis | my point is, AFS is distributed, so "not NFS" exactly |
| 15:09.45 | bawr | summatusmentis: I meant figuratively, I realise AFS is very much different. |
| 15:09.55 | summatusmentis | I would say AFS works, yes |
| 15:10.02 | wiktor_b | true, but it's still a "networked file system" :) |
| 15:10.09 | bawr | I wanted to know if I didn't mix up my TLAs. :) |
| 15:10.10 | summatusmentis | yes, it is a networked filesystem |
| 15:10.23 | summatusmentis | crap, I've got class, bye all |
| 15:10.40 | wiktor_b | bye bye, summatusmentis |
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| 19:48.36 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2010 is On! - Accepted student applications have been announced - You get one acceptance/rejectance mail per sent proposal - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://bit.ly/a5tD87 - Read the FAQs: http://bit.ly/9q41Ey - Consider Hosting a GSoC Info Session: http://bit.ly/amIwdd |
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| 20:09.30 | TheLorax | "Google begins issuing initial student payments provided tax forms are on file and students are in good standing with their communities." |
| 20:09.37 | TheLorax | should I be sending stuff to google? |
| 20:10.03 | merwok | !patience |
| 20:10.04 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 20:10.16 | merwok | Weâll get email with directions, Iâm sure. |
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| 20:10.53 | TheLorax | ....I quoted from that page....why would you tell me to read it? |
| 20:11.17 | merwok | Iâm telling you to wait :) |
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| 20:17.54 | carols | borja, you around |
| 20:17.55 | carols | ? |
| 20:18.09 | borja | carols: yup |
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| 20:47.19 | mlankhorst | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.21 | mlankhorst | er |
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| 20:48.28 | minix3|straydawg | : |
| 20:48.29 | minix3|straydawg | :) |
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| 20:57.49 | marcosroriz | hello guys |
| 20:58.12 | marcosroriz | any chance that google pay we (accepted students) to go to FISL ? International Free Software Forum |
| 20:58.27 | mlankhorst | !google |
| 20:58.28 | socinfo | "google" is not the cosmic cash machine people think it is. |
| 20:58.37 | rohitr | lol |
| 20:58.41 | marcosroriz | :3 |
| 20:58.42 | mkarnicki | mlankhorst: I see the bot is more and more clever ;) |
| 20:58.46 | marcosroriz | =3 |
| 20:58.50 | marcosroriz | XD~ |
| 20:58.53 | marcosroriz | but it would be so fun |
| 20:58.59 | mlankhorst | you can use the money you get from gsoc though for it |
| 20:59.08 | rohitr | marcosroriz: use the GSOC money |
| 20:59.14 | marcosroriz | but it's very expensive :3 |
| 20:59.35 | gevaerts | marcosroriz: find out the guilty secret of some google top people |
| 20:59.46 | marcosroriz | ok |
| 20:59.51 | marcosroriz | then black mail them right? |
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| 21:01.42 | gevaerts | yes, that's the standard approach, widely accepted in business :) |
| 21:02.00 | marcosroriz | but i have ethics |
| 21:02.01 | marcosroriz | :3 |
| 21:02.11 | marcosroriz | right know I already have USD 500 right? |
| 21:02.12 | tulcod | !cookies |
| 21:02.13 | socinfo | "cookies" is warm from the oven cookies to go with your tea |
| 21:02.34 | gevaerts | marcosroriz: "ethics" as in "no idea how to find this secret"? ;) |
| 21:02.50 | marcosroriz | hahahah |
| 21:02.54 | smtms | marcosroriz, it's possible some students won't get even $500 |
| 21:02.59 | marcosroriz | why smtms ? |
| 21:03.01 | marcosroriz | :3 |
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| 21:08.45 | schumaml | if they don't submit the tax forms for whatever reason |
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| 21:27.32 | robbyoconnor | !cake |
| 21:27.33 | socinfo | "cake" is Cake used to be a lie, until lh got us some. |
| 21:27.41 | robbyoconnor | !cookies |
| 21:27.41 | socinfo | "cookies" is warm from the oven cookies to go with your tea |
| 21:27.50 | gevaerts | !tea |
| 21:27.50 | socinfo | "tea" is (#1) always a valid option, or (#2) It's always tea time, have a cup on the house! |
| 21:28.01 | MostAwesomeDude | Serve and enjoy. |
| 21:28.22 | robbyoconnor | !learn tea as carol will always provide tea. If she doesn't, she's not on her game! Cookies will be devoured by robbyoconnor. |
| 21:28.23 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:28.38 | Catfish_Man | !forget tea 3 |
| 21:28.38 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:28.42 | Catfish_Man | tea was fine :P |
| 21:28.46 | robbyoconnor | bastard! |
| 21:29.13 | robbyoconnor | devours all the cookies |
| 21:29.17 | robbyoconnor | cookie monster |
| 21:29.45 | tulcod | !help |
| 21:29.45 | socinfo | "help" is (#1) !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax, or (#2) please issuw these commands in pm. |
| 21:30.08 | tulcod | !advice |
| 21:30.09 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 21:32.05 | robbyoconnor | !forget help 2 |
| 21:32.05 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:32.48 | robbyoconnor | !learn help as Please issue these commands in pm -- type "/msg socinfo help" without double quotes to find out how. |
| 21:32.48 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:32.52 | robbyoconnor | !help |
| 21:32.52 | socinfo | "help" is (#1) !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax, or (#2) Please issue these commands in pm -- type /msg socinfo help without double quotes to find out how. |
| 21:32.55 | smtms | !r0bby |
| 21:32.55 | socinfo | Error: "r0bby" is not a valid command. |
| 21:33.10 | robbyoconnor | jesus |
| 21:33.23 | smtms | !jesus |
| 21:33.23 | socinfo | Error: "jesus" is not a valid command. |
| 21:33.29 | smtms | r0bby == jesus |
| 21:33.34 | tulcod | !learn jesus as r0bby |
| 21:33.35 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:33.43 | Catfish_Man | stop abusing the bot, guys |
| 21:33.44 | tulcod | !learn r0bby as jesus |
| 21:33.44 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:33.54 | tulcod | Catfish_Man: you made it too easy ;) |
| 21:34.14 | robbyoconnor | Catfish_Man: im done |
| 21:34.17 | robbyoconnor | !help |
| 21:34.17 | socinfo | "help" is (#1) !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax, or (#2) Please issue these commands in pm, to find out how simply type: /msg socinfo help |
| 21:34.21 | robbyoconnor | cleaned it up :) |
| 21:34.36 | robbyoconnor | !forget jesus |
| 21:34.36 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:34.40 | robbyoconnor | !forget r0bby |
| 21:34.40 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 21:35.28 | Kosma | is it so simple? |
| 21:35.30 | Kosma | no ACLs? |
| 21:35.38 | robbyoconnor | yes it is |
| 21:35.42 | robbyoconnor | but let's not abuse it |
| 21:35.50 | tulcod | ACLs are for the paranoid |
| 21:35.50 | robbyoconnor | I was being bad. |
| 21:35.59 | robbyoconnor | puts on his tin foil hat |
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| 22:08.51 | gillux | < tulcod> we want a statistics and map! => check out my crappy map: http://fr.dotsec.net/~gillux/gsoc/fullmap/ |
| 22:09.23 | coppro | "this site needs a new Google Map API key" |
| 22:09.23 | tulcod | "This web site needs a different Google Maps API key. A new key can be generated at http://code.google.com/apis/maps/." |
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| 22:09.41 | gillux | yeah, you should hide your referer |
| 22:09.46 | gillux | as adviced on the page |
| 22:10.42 | coppro | too lazy |
| 22:11.30 | tulcod | wow, so little students from the netherlands |
| 22:11.50 | tulcod | 2 (!) |
| 22:12.08 | gillux | remember this is only the ones who accepted to show their position |
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| 22:12.47 | tulcod | hm, alright |
| 22:13.11 | tulcod | hehe, and so many from new delhi, india :P |
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| 22:15.10 | tulcod | gillux: thanks though :) |
| 22:15.25 | gillux | no problem :) |
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