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| 00:14.14 | mayanks43 | ntn going on here |
| 00:14.25 | mayanks43 | so it seems |
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| 00:22.48 | BWaters | it would appear so |
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| 00:33.04 | mayanks43 | !next |
| 00:33.04 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 00:33.12 | tontoto | i want to recieve comments on my app :( |
| 00:33.32 | mayanks43 | then receive |
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| 00:34.09 | tontoto | then --- put comments on it myself? |
| 00:34.21 | mayanks43 | try puttting |
| 00:34.24 | mayanks43 | i did |
| 00:34.53 | tontoto | i should mention a couple things i forgot |
| 00:35.06 | tontoto | i wanted to mention that i compiled their software already and stuff |
| 00:35.06 | Sgeo | I want to go back in time and get myself to look at GSoC sooner |
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| 00:35.27 | mayanks43 | Sgeo there's always 2011 |
| 00:35.31 | mmadia | !edit |
| 00:35.32 | socinfo | "edit" is You can submit your application early and edit it up until the deadline (April 9). Once the deadline passes, you cannot edit it. Instead, leave comments. |
| 00:35.43 | Sgeo | mayanks43, yes, but I doubt there will be a 2012 |
| 00:35.53 | mayanks43 | me just did tht |
| 00:36.06 | mayanks43 | 2012 is li8 |
| 00:36.14 | mayanks43 | me talking of 2011 |
| 00:36.26 | Sgeo | Well, if I screw up again next year.. |
| 00:36.27 | cao | and even if you're not a student at gsoc you still can and should support open-source projects |
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| 00:37.05 | micahcowan | Sgeo, nonsense, the world doesn't end until DECEMBER of 2012. It's 2013 GSoC that won't happen. |
| 00:37.15 | micahcowan | ;) |
| 00:37.15 | Sgeo | lol |
| 00:37.27 | mayanks43 | :D |
| 00:37.35 | mayanks43 | Sgeo has 2 more gsocs to go |
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| 00:37.50 | Sgeo | I'm probably going to have graduated by 2012 |
| 00:38.04 | mayanks43 | i have three more yrs go but ;) |
| 00:39.33 | mayanks43 | at least this channel caught some fire it was frozen cold |
| 00:39.41 | mayanks43 | :) |
| 00:40.07 | tontoto | can you do gsoc summer after you graduate |
| 00:40.13 | mayanks43 | nope |
| 00:40.19 | mayanks43 | its for students |
| 00:40.24 | mayanks43 | ya u can do if |
| 00:40.28 | mayanks43 | u r doing masters |
| 00:40.31 | mayanks43 | or phd |
| 00:41.01 | tontoto | agh! I dunno if i'm ready for those things. no idea what to do after graduating |
| 00:41.03 | mayanks43 | not for guys doing a job |
| 00:41.04 | cao | solution: study |
| 00:41.26 | micahcowan | My understanding is that you can if you don't graduate until _after_ the date for which you're supposed to provide proof of enrollment (Apr 26, this year). See the FAQ for specifics. |
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| 00:44.02 | tontoto | maybe take some summer classes and graduate in the fall |
| 00:44.35 | mayanks43 | u graduating next yr tontoto |
| 00:44.37 | mayanks43 | ? |
| 00:44.46 | cao | or pursue another degree, bachelor of x/y/z |
| 00:45.00 | mayanks43 | :D |
| 00:45.14 | mayanks43 | or do masters |
| 00:46.47 | tontoto | yea next year. i want to do masters but I am so tired of school now. can't think about anymore school |
| 00:47.03 | mayanks43 | LOL |
| 00:47.22 | mayanks43 | me bored of studying too |
| 00:47.34 | mayanks43 | rather wud like to pursue my interests |
| 00:48.05 | tontoto | truly :) I had a test and homeworks yesterday and I just wanted to write more applications! |
| 00:48.14 | mayanks43 | i wrote only one :P |
| 00:48.15 | chadincorporated | I know, SoC seems like a nice break from the study, exam, small project regiment my school has me on |
| 00:48.21 | mayanks43 | and sacrificed my prelim tests |
| 00:48.27 | chadincorporated | an actual useful code project would be fun |
| 00:49.17 | mayanks43 | but graduates face masters and phd guys having large experience in gsoc |
| 00:49.23 | mayanks43 | tht's tuff to tackle |
| 00:49.41 | mayanks43 | *undergrads |
| 00:50.13 | tontoto | I think like 30% masters and phds make up the gsoc |
| 00:50.47 | mayanks43 | check google blog more accurate stats there |
| 00:51.22 | Wyk3d | does anyone have any statistics from past years for number of received apps vs slot count ? |
| 00:53.37 | mayanks43 | HTML5 is too awesome |
| 00:53.52 | mayanks43 | :) |
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| 00:55.05 | tontoto | hmm. whats so good about HTML5? I just think new javascript stuff is cool |
| 00:55.20 | mayanks43 | the video element |
| 00:55.36 | mayanks43 | and smthg abt quake ii and html5 on google blog |
| 00:55.45 | coppro | the video element does not mandate Theora :( |
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| 00:56.19 | mayanks43 | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/03/summer-student-stats-degrees-and-majors.html |
| 00:56.40 | tontoto | oh yea. html5 canvas and javascript = endless possibilities |
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| 00:57.32 | mayanks43 | sad the transition phase will persist for a while |
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| 03:46.28 | exlevan | !next |
| 03:46.28 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 04:34.43 | asmeurer | !countdown |
| 04:34.43 | socinfo | "countdown" is The deadline for submitting a student project proposal has passed. |
| 04:36.03 | asmeurer | (I know, I want a countdown to the acception date :) |
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| 04:36.40 | asmeurer | !thanks anyway |
| 04:36.40 | socinfo | Error: "thanks" is not a valid command. |
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| 04:38.36 | sanjoyd | !help |
| 04:38.36 | socinfo | "help" is !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax |
| 04:38.46 | sanjoyd | !botabuse |
| 04:38.46 | socinfo | "botabuse" is (#1) Leave me alone! (also, you can play with me as much as you like in a private /query so as not to spam the channel), or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> to get the best use., or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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| 04:43.05 | mmadia | asmeurer tinyurl.com/gsoc2010-accepted-students |
| 04:43.43 | mmadia | i made it & mentioned it in the channel, but i had reservations on setting countdown to be it. |
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| 04:44.29 | asmeurer | mmadia: sweet. Thanks. |
| 04:46.01 | asmeurer | Why not just make countdown "The deadline for submitting a student project proposal has passed. The countdown for when accepted student applications are announced is http://tinyurl.com/gsoc2010-accepted-students" ? |
| 04:46.45 | coppro | sounds good to me |
| 04:47.04 | Gangadhar | really good.. |
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| 05:05.38 | zooko | Where can I see which Mentors have clicked "willing" on which Proposals? |
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| 05:12.35 | micahcowan | zooko, I'm told that's the "Proposed Mentors" at the top of the proposal. |
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| 05:16.31 | zooko | thanks |
| 05:17.46 | asmeurer | So is the students list the same from year to year? |
| 05:19.04 | zooko | micahcowan: I don't see "Proposed Mentors". |
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| 05:19.20 | micahcowan | zooko, are you an org admin? |
| 05:19.28 | zooko | Ah, "Possible Mentors" thanks |
| 05:21.11 | pogo11 | Hi, I just got a "Public Review" for my proposal. It asks me a question, so I would like to answer it. How do I do that. Throught a "Comment" on my own proposal? The "Caution, you will not be able to edit your comment!" scares me a little bit. Will it appear as a comment on the proposal or on the review? |
| 05:22.07 | mmadia | it'll appear just below the mentor's comment. |
| 05:22.22 | pogo11 | Is a "Comment" the same thing as a "Public Review" then? |
| 05:22.43 | mmadia | from a student's perspective, yes. |
| 05:22.51 | pogo11 | thx mmadia |
| 05:23.08 | mmadia | mentors & admins also have "private reviews", which aren't viewable to students. |
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| 05:39.57 | dmitrig01 | Since the slot allocation is only to determine how many slots an organization can have, and since there's no way we can match everything up with a student by monday, i'm tempted to mark myself as everyone's mentor |
| 05:40.10 | dmitrig01 | and they'll cap us at the max # of slots |
| 05:40.22 | dmitrig01 | would anyone get mad? |
| 05:42.43 | swa_k | any way to find out how many slots each org has?? |
| 05:42.55 | dmitrig01 | it won't be determined till tuesday |
| 05:43.25 | swa_k | fine |
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| 05:47.56 | fLiDe | !next |
| 05:47.56 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 05:49.15 | fLiDe | !help |
| 05:49.15 | socinfo | "help" is !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax |
| 05:49.26 | fLiDe | !botabuse |
| 05:49.26 | socinfo | "botabuse" is (#1) Leave me alone! (also, you can play with me as much as you like in a private /query so as not to spam the channel), or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> to get the best use., or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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| 06:19.30 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 06:43.51 | parren | Folks, is it correct that we should have mentors assigned to promising applications by Monday to increase the chance of getting slots for them? |
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| 06:44.24 | micahcowan | parren, that's my understanding from the mailing list. |
| 06:44.36 | kblin | morning |
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| 06:44.56 | parren | micahcowan: OK, thanks. |
| 06:45.29 | kblin | I'm still not sure how much that will actually do anything different to before |
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| 06:50.53 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 06:54.08 | kblin | thebolt: morning |
| 06:54.31 | kblin | thebolt: say, have you played with getting a new kernel module for your nas? |
| 06:55.05 | reddragon | micahcowan, Does the mentor assignment process require the participant's participation? |
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| 06:55.40 | micahcowan | No. Though if the student has a preference, then... but for now, just get some assigned; you can change them later. |
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| 06:56.14 | thebolt | kblin: not yet, no.. i put some new software on it (openvpn for example) but only user-space so far |
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| 06:56.52 | reddragon | micahcowan, I am new to GSoC, do we need to discuss our proposal with the organization's members and convince them about our proposal? |
| 06:57.34 | micahcowan | That's generally a good idea anyway. |
| 06:59.22 | parren | reddragon: In Mercurial, we generally frown on proposals from folks who haven't talked to anyone before. In our experience, a lot of GSoC success depends on actively involving yourself with the community. |
| 06:59.45 | reddragon | parren, I have talked to a person at my organization |
| 07:01.28 | reddragon | parren, I applied at Berkman, and they suggested I talk to one of their people. I did. Now, do I need to do anything formal |
| 07:03.40 | thebolt | kblin: is it giving you problems? |
| 07:03.56 | parren | reddragon: Then I guess your contact should be best able to tell you how to proceed. Each org has their own preferences, I presume. |
| 07:04.23 | thebolt | kblin: as far as i can tell the OS is a stripped down debian-for-sparc so should work to use the "normal" way for debian (which i don't remember anymore but still ;) |
| 07:04.50 | kblin | thebolt: it's lacking IPv6 support |
| 07:04.53 | reddragon | Okk |
| 07:06.17 | thebolt | kblin: ah, hm |
| 07:06.28 | thebolt | kblin: don't run ipv6 (Yet).. |
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| 10:03.16 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 10:10.48 | JanisB | If proposals was left in "private" status - will they be available for evaluation? |
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| 10:11.06 | AshishG | JanisB: yes |
| 10:11.19 | JanisB | thanks God... |
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| 10:14.30 | ngupta | I made all my proposals public, now how to get URL which I can share with others (public view)? |
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| 10:40.22 | mkarnicki | ngupta: somewhere at the top left on your proposal you have "Public view". then, just copy the link |
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| 10:41.14 | __goo__ | How long is it typically before you get a response to your proposal? |
| 10:41.44 | Dark_Shikari | jump on irc and talk to mentors |
| 10:41.52 | mkarnicki | i'm not sure if 'a response' is visible. exactly, jump on irc |
| 10:41.56 | mkarnicki | or mailing lists |
| 10:42.13 | mkarnicki | mentors will be grading the proposals now, but we won't see that |
| 10:42.28 | mkarnicki | (as far as I know). just the final results will be announced. |
| 10:42.34 | __goo__ | ok |
| 10:42.36 | __goo__ | Nice |
| 10:43.07 | mkarnicki | mentors have options to rank the proposal, and to state 'i want to mentor this student'. |
| 10:43.47 | mkarnicki | i'm away for lunch. l8r |
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| 10:45.57 | ThomasWaldmann | moin |
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| 10:48.29 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: i have started with a students doing python coding task 1 |
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| 10:48.44 | ThomasWaldmann | still searching something for task 2, though |
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| 10:49.50 | ThomasWaldmann | any other orgs doing python coding tests? |
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| 10:51.52 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: actually all responsive students that applied for WOMBAT sent me a patch for Wombat right away |
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| 10:52.33 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: so I decided not to bother with the python tests |
| 10:53.49 | ThomasWaldmann | ah. wombat = swat++? |
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| 11:05.35 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: no, it's an asset manager for worldforge |
| 11:06.27 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: swat needs a facelift, but adding a dependency on python might not get past the other devs |
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| 11:12.44 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: huh. python is even used by many installers meanwhile. |
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| 11:17.57 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: well, sure, but python doesn't even build on all platforms samba builds on, and it's a real pain to crossbuild as well |
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| 11:19.41 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: we're currently trying to switch to a python-based build system for samba, and these problems are real show-stoppers |
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| 11:23.59 | smtms | kblin, scons? |
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| 11:25.14 | kblin | nah, scons is dog-slow |
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| 11:25.32 | kblin | the tool we're looking at is called waf |
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| 11:26.30 | kblin | it's the same speed as our autoconf-based system, produces smaller binaries for s4 by an order of magnitude and has hash-based dependency handling |
| 11:27.17 | kblin | but there's lots of production installs of samba3 that just don't have python, so we can't easily use it there |
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| 11:33.28 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: uuh, ok. |
| 11:34.41 | thebolt | kblin: how can the build system produce smaller binaries? i assume it still use same compiler? |
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| 11:40.33 | kblin | thebolt: because it's pretty impossible to build complex systems using autoconf/automake and not liking some objects multiple times |
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| 11:41.40 | thebolt | kblin: ok. well, i don't like autoconf/make either.. |
| 11:41.54 | kblin | thebolt: the s4 build was pretty modular, but pretty impossible to understand well enough to avoid specifying some libraries and subsystems multiple times |
| 11:42.06 | thebolt | never used it for anything big.. it was removed from crystalspace just early in my carrer there |
| 11:42.17 | thebolt | mainly because it was too slow when _not_ building stuff |
| 11:42.26 | thebolt | (use jam nowdays) |
| 11:44.43 | kblin | and in the end this resulted in the samba binaries being around a gig in size... |
| 11:45.12 | kblin | our waf build includes logic to never link object files twice, and brings down the build size to 100 megs |
| 11:45.43 | thiago_home | build size as in the total sum of .o files? |
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| 11:48.09 | yonij | is there anyone around who is working on hadoop? |
| 11:49.11 | yonij | am a begineer in hadoop...would like to ask a few things |
| 11:49.43 | kblin | !anyone |
| 11:49.43 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
| 11:51.02 | kblin | ph34r /\/\y 50c1/\/f0 5k1llz!!!11eleventyone |
| 11:51.18 | kblin | hm, that took too long, I need an alias for that |
| 11:51.34 | kitallis | use that irssi l33t plugin :> |
| 11:52.16 | kblin | nah, thanks, I doubt that says !!!!1111eleventyone |
| 11:52.25 | kitallis | I think it does, iirc |
| 11:52.38 | kblin | hm, I'll check |
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| 11:53.56 | kblin | not installed on my system |
| 11:53.58 | kblin | oh well |
| 11:54.35 | kitallis | oh, i see, i think there used to be a litte package in the deb repo |
| 11:54.47 | kitallis | which had around 200 scripts or so |
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| 11:57.13 | baer | kblin: try dau.pl |
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| 11:59.44 | kblin | hehe, no thanks |
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| 12:15.13 | anddam | hello |
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| 12:18.34 | nmudgal | skbohra: same i can ask you too :) |
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| 12:42.31 | yes | hello? |
| 12:42.55 | AshishG | go on |
| 12:43.41 | Mitar | we are finding proposals without an e-mail address ... is it really possible to submit a proposal without even an e-mail address? |
| 12:44.02 | yes | Can anybody help me with information where i can sign up for a student project on the BeagleBoard? |
| 12:44.34 | Mitar | yes: i think you are a bit late |
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| 12:44.48 | yes | the deadline has passed already? |
| 12:45.09 | smtms | Mitar, submitting proposals is done through the webapp |
| 12:45.15 | Mitar | yes |
| 12:45.29 | Mitar | but does it have e-mail address as a reqired field? |
| 12:45.41 | yes | ok, thank you.... |
| 12:45.51 | smtms | proposals don't; submitting proposals requires a Google account |
| 12:46.10 | smtms | which requires a working e-mail address I think |
| 12:46.27 | smtms | Mitar, was there a field in your application template for e-mail address? |
| 12:46.33 | kblin | Mitar: you should have asked for that in your application template :) |
| 12:46.39 | Mitar | yes |
| 12:46.49 | Mitar | we have |
| 12:46.50 | charon | some interaction between konqy and the gsoc mentoring site ate my comment but did put in the score. now suppose i still want to provide the comment, in a new one since i can't edit. do i have to put the same score again (i.e. will it "overwrite" my earlier score) or do i have to put a 0 (will it accumulate)? |
| 12:47.02 | kblin | Mitar: if you did, they failed the reading comprehension test, ditch them :) |
| 12:47.08 | Mitar | :-) |
| 12:47.13 | Mitar | but some things are quite interesting |
| 12:47.19 | Mitar | and we would like to get into the contact with them |
| 12:47.25 | Mitar | is there a way to get google's account they used? |
| 12:47.31 | kblin | Mitar: leave a comment then and hope they read those |
| 12:47.56 | Mitar | so there is no way to get their google account? |
| 12:48.09 | kblin | not that I'm aware of |
| 12:48.12 | Mitar | thanks |
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| 13:12.59 | domonoky | !next |
| 13:12.59 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 13:52.43 | kblin | !timeline |
| 13:52.43 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 14:05.03 | kblin | hm, life sure stays fun with gsoc |
| 14:05.13 | bawr | How so? |
| 14:05.55 | kblin | I just learned that selecting backup mentors who work at the same company as the primary mentor is a bad idea :) |
| 14:06.06 | thiago_home | why? |
| 14:06.18 | kblin | well, if it's a small company, at least |
| 14:07.13 | bawr | Did you learn that from bitter experience? :) |
| 14:07.22 | kblin | one of my mentors broke his arm some days ago, and now my backup mentor tells me that because they're short one developer at work, he won't have a lot of time to mentor either |
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| 14:08.02 | thiago_home | makes sense... |
| 14:08.16 | kblin | so I'm currently having fun trying to dig up another developer who knows the area |
| 14:08.26 | int3 | hm. surely the first mentor can still type with one hand? |
| 14:08.30 | kblin | got another one, working at the same company, though |
| 14:09.15 | bawr | int3: That... that would be quite suboptimal. |
| 14:09.40 | kblin | int3: if he only damaged the arm, that might work |
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| 14:10.32 | kblin | also I guess he'll spend his one-hand typing at work :) |
| 14:11.11 | kblin | and it's no fun whatsoever to do this, as I know from experience |
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| 14:11.43 | kblin | you easily overstrain the remaining hand, and then you're in trouble |
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| 14:12.04 | _ke | is there any admin of the soc-mentors list around? |
| 14:12.04 | int3 | hm, sometimes i type with one hand if I'm too lazy to turn my body to face the computer. but yeah, I guess long-term it isn't too fun |
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| 14:13.58 | kblin | int3: I dislocated my elbow while I was writing my masters thesis, it's really no fun at all if you have to churn out lots of text |
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| 14:14.59 | mayanks43 | y do ppl live life so dangerously? |
| 14:15.02 | mayanks43 | :P |
| 14:15.23 | kblin | blames gravity |
| 14:15.37 | kblin | Down with gravity! Free fall for everybody! |
| 14:15.47 | mayanks43 | blames high speed bikes |
| 14:15.50 | mayanks43 | :P |
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| 14:19.28 | kblin | _ke: not that I'm aware of. what's your problem? |
| 14:20.29 | _ke | kblin, i am subscribed with two mail addresses, where one is just a forward to my gmail address. i tried to remove the forward address, but i only can remove the gmail address from the mailing list |
| 14:26.33 | kblin | !support |
| 14:26.33 | socinfo | "support" is available at gsoc@google.com |
| 14:26.42 | kblin | _ke: try emailing there ^^^^ |
| 14:26.54 | _ke | kblin, yep, i did that right now. thanks |
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| 14:29.12 | kblin | _ke: no problemo |
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| 15:06.34 | g0 | if I haven't subscibed to the comments will I get to see them on the web (I'm guessing subscription is for email?) |
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| 15:08.35 | dberkholz | kblin: how big of an increase in proposals did your orgs get from last year? |
| 15:08.43 | danderson | g0: yes. |
| 15:08.59 | g0 | kewl |
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| 15:21.25 | darkip | hey g0 :) |
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| 15:47.43 | kblin | dberkholz: uhm, good question |
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| 15:59.18 | LetterRip | hi all a quick question on the mentor assigning - it was suggested that we assign all students to the administrator right now, and then reallocate later |
| 15:59.38 | LetterRip | we have plenty of mentors, but we haven't decided who wants to do what |
| 15:59.57 | LetterRip | so would assiging all to one mentor for now have any negative effect? |
| 16:00.13 | LetterRip | or should i just assign on best fit for now |
| 16:00.20 | LetterRip | and reassign later |
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| 16:03.02 | drt24 | I would go for assign best fit and then optimise. But then I am a student :-) |
| 16:03.38 | borja | LetterRip: in our org we do an initial assign based on who proposed the project idea |
| 16:03.49 | borja | LetterRip: and then tweak as necessary |
| 16:04.30 | LetterRip | well the reason to do it the first way for our org, is that it is less confusing |
| 16:04.51 | LetterRip | but it might mess with the allocation algorithm |
| 16:04.59 | LetterRip | so don't want to accidently foobar ourselfs :) |
| 16:07.26 | borja | My understanding from all the messages on the mentor list is that if you have a mentor (any mentor) assigned to N proposals, the allocation algorithm will give you at most N slots |
| 16:07.56 | borja | What mentor is assigned doesn't affect the outcome |
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| 16:08.08 | LetterRip | ok - i thought that might be the case |
| 16:08.24 | LetterRip | but also it has been stated elsewhere that a mentor shouldn't do 'more than one' |
| 16:08.31 | LetterRip | so it might enforce that in the algo |
| 16:09.13 | smtms | that would be stupid |
| 16:09.46 | borja | This is what Sverre posted on the list: max_slots = len(i for i in props if i.mentor is not Null) |
| 16:10.02 | borja | So I'm pretty sure it doesn't take that into account |
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| 16:10.49 | asmeurer | I know someone who mentored more than one project last year |
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| 16:21.55 | LetterRip | smtms - being stupid doesn't mean not so :) |
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| 16:22.12 | fwaokda | Is there a place where I can find previous projects that students have worked on so I can kinda see if I'm up to this task? |
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| 16:22.35 | LetterRip | no one would have thought that a rank sort would not be based on the full number either... |
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| 16:23.09 | LetterRip | fwaokda: you can see past completed projects |
| 16:23.14 | LetterRip | at the gsoc site |
| 16:23.26 | LetterRip | it lists all successfully completed projects for 2009 |
| 16:23.26 | fwaokda | LetterRip, thanks I must have missed that I'll look again |
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| 16:54.11 | fweisbec | !next |
| 16:54.11 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 16:56.19 | Gangadhar | !next |
| 16:56.19 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 16:56.19 | dhaun | fweisbec: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=740 |
| 16:56.30 | dhaun | whoops, wrong tab |
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| 16:57.55 | fweisbec | dhaun: :) |
| 16:58.28 | dhaun | sorry about that - shouldn't try to do three things at once :P |
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| 17:01.33 | Zeilfak | hi |
| 17:01.43 | anjneya | hi! |
| 17:01.52 | fwaokda | hai |
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| 17:02.40 | Zeilfak | anjaneya: from bit? |
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| 17:06.52 | anjneya | yup |
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| 17:14.08 | adimania | anjneya: Zeilfak: all bitians here :) |
| 17:14.22 | anjneya | are bhak ! |
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| 17:19.52 | nfl | anjneya: which org? |
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| 17:39.01 | anjneya | ne more bitian |
| 17:40.01 | adimania | anjneya: which org you appkied for? |
| 17:40.06 | adimania | *applied |
| 17:40.14 | anjneya | geogebra |
| 17:40.21 | anjneya | nd u ? |
| 17:40.29 | adimania | kde |
| 17:40.37 | anjneya | linux mania |
| 17:40.40 | anjneya | !!! |
| 17:40.41 | socinfo | Error: "!!" is not a valid command. |
| 17:40.44 | anjneya | :) |
| 17:41.07 | adimania | yeah, can't help it, I applied to ubuntu too |
| 17:41.34 | anjneya | but they must be having a lot of app |
| 17:41.49 | adimania | and a lot of slots |
| 17:41.52 | anjneya | so its quite diffclt to pass through |
| 17:41.58 | anjneya | ya that's true |
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| 17:42.29 | anjneya | bt it's b8r to go with ur intrt |
| 17:42.37 | anjneya | *intrst |
| 17:42.39 | adimania | yeah, its tough. KDE and Ubuntu are expected to get a lot of applications.. |
| 17:43.00 | anjneya | sure |
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| 17:43.30 | anjneya | if m nt wrong than m the only applcnt for my organisation :) |
| 17:43.46 | WWS | which orh anjneya? |
| 17:43.47 | anjneya | bt i love thr project |
| 17:43.57 | anjneya | nvr mind |
| 17:44.19 | kimelto | morning! |
| 17:44.33 | adimania | what!? then you are already selected? are you? |
| 17:44.40 | anjneya | no man |
| 17:44.47 | anjneya | i don't know |
| 17:45.04 | |Kev| | anjneya: please don't use text-speak, it's terribly hard to read. |
| 17:45.04 | anjneya | had a long conversation with my admin |
| 17:45.42 | anjneya | but still |
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| 18:11.30 | ordex | wa the deadline on april 9th right? |
| 18:11.37 | ordex | *was |
| 18:11.37 | jkwood | !deadline |
| 18:11.37 | ihalip | it was. |
| 18:11.38 | socinfo | "deadline" is see !timeline |
| 18:11.45 | ordex | !timeline |
| 18:11.45 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 18:11.51 | ordex | damn :( |
| 18:12.05 | ordex | i hate working for univ.report :S |
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| 18:12.18 | infinity0 | !timeline |
| 18:12.18 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 18:13.47 | ordex | no way to apply right now? .-. |
| 18:13.57 | jkwood | Nope. Better luck next year. |
| 18:14.05 | ordex | ya |
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| 18:14.09 | ordex | thanks anyway |
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| 18:21.20 | yonij | is there some one who has experience with distributed web crawler |
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| 18:22.35 | yonij | no one?? |
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| 18:23.37 | kblin | !gsoc |
| 18:23.37 | socinfo | "gsoc" is gsoc refers to the Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoire-faire on Open-source Conundrums. |
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| 18:24.20 | yonij | it is for gsoc |
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| 18:30.32 | kblin | you're writing a web crawler for gsoc? |
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| 18:31.09 | yonij | there is a project like that |
| 18:32.42 | epps | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=distributed%20web%20crawler |
| 18:33.31 | yonij | thanx..hehe...did that...would like to ask sm1 in person |
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| 18:35.16 | yonij | we can have it here |
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| 18:37.09 | kblin | yonij: excellent :) |
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| 18:38.11 | yonij | @kblini:I wanted to which is the best lang to do a crawler...other than python...i was going for java |
| 18:39.03 | kblin | Ocaml |
| 18:39.11 | kblin | or possibly lisp |
| 18:39.14 | jkwood | You're going to want to consider things like performance, network awareness, and ease of string handling. |
| 18:39.35 | yonij | k |
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| 18:39.46 | jkwood | Performance perhaps not so much, due to the fact that interacting with a network is slower than pretty much anything else in computing. |
| 18:39.46 | kblin | because you can impress people if you're fluent in those :) |
| 18:40.14 | yonij | i had a very different idea about lisp..so it can be used for stuffs like this too |
| 18:40.28 | kimelto | threading ease? |
| 18:40.51 | kblin | but kidding aside, jkwood has a point there |
| 18:40.51 | jkwood | Ah, threading ease would be very useful as well. |
| 18:40.52 | kimelto | you might want to do 10 parallel requests due to the network latency |
| 18:41.11 | yonij | slower than disk i/o? |
| 18:41.36 | kblin | internet access? very likely |
| 18:41.39 | jkwood | Yes, much. |
| 18:42.02 | kblin | if your disk is slower than internet access, you have a really lousy drive ;) |
| 18:42.07 | jkwood | Disk access times are measured in milliseconds. Network access times are generally measured in seconds. |
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| 18:42.45 | kblin | or minutes, if you're waiting for melange to load javascript tables :) |
| 18:42.47 | yonij | not internet...LAN? |
| 18:43.02 | jkwood | Internet times will generally be slower than LAN access times. |
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| 18:43.52 | yonij | is it a good idea to use hadoop here |
| 18:44.05 | jkwood | It also depends on how the webserver is configured - if all pages are in memory, it'll be faster than if it has to load them off disk. |
| 18:44.50 | jkwood | For sites like Wikipedia, for example, it's not always possible to keep all pages in memory, though, and some time is wasted bouncing among servers. |
| 18:45.45 | yonij | i guess it wont be possible to do all in memory... |
| 18:45.55 | yonij | the crawler determines that ...am i rit |
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| 18:46.20 | jkwood | "wasted" being about absolute effiency, not relative of course. It's still the best way to do it in that case. |
| 18:46.47 | kblin | you're asking questions that are impossible for us to answer, as we have no ideas about the detailed requirements of your project |
| 18:46.48 | jkwood | Well, if you're trying to load every page on the server simultaneously, the crawler could determine it. |
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| 18:46.58 | fwaokda | I'm trying to upload my first android open source project to code.google.com - but - I was wondering if I can change the Project Name, Summary, Description at a later date or if it is permanent to the project after the initial creation? |
| 18:47.19 | jkwood | O.o |
| 18:47.23 | kblin | !gsoc |
| 18:47.24 | socinfo | "gsoc" is gsoc refers to the Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoire-faire on Open-source Conundrums. |
| 18:47.29 | kblin | fwaokda: ^^^^ |
| 18:47.35 | fwaokda | my apologies |
| 18:47.37 | fwaokda | thanks |
| 18:47.39 | kblin | we're no generic google stuff help channel :) |
| 18:47.49 | kblin | try the code.google.com faq |
| 18:47.55 | fwaokda | ok thanks |
| 18:48.00 | dberkholz | micahcowan: if you haven't gotten your answer yet, see http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#depth_mentrequest |
| 18:48.02 | jkwood | Wow, that was oddly specific to this case. |
| 18:48.40 | yonij | jkwood:u mean using hadoop is recomended |
| 18:49.27 | kblin | fwaokda: you're likely able to change everything apart from the part of information that is encoded in your project's url |
| 18:49.44 | fwaokda | k thanks |
| 18:49.44 | jkwood | yonij: I have heard of hadoop but I have no idea what it does. I'm just talking about general principles to think about when designing a web crawler. |
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| 18:50.42 | dberkholz | would anyone else find it really useful if the proposal list had a set of easy checkboxes for mass-following sets of proposals? |
| 18:50.43 | yonij | as far as i know it does wat GFS and google stuff does.... |
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| 18:50.53 | dberkholz | i just spent the better part of an hour slowly opening each proposal to click a button |
| 18:51.00 | jkwood | In all honesty, I've probably discussed it more here than is prudent - you'd be best served by doing research in channels related to what you're trying to do (whether IRC channels or information channels generally) |
| 18:51.46 | jkwood | dberkholz: File a ticket with Melange. There's lots of things they could improve, but without input they'll likely never improve them. |
| 18:51.52 | kblin | dberkholz: sounds good, but I want a decent CSV export first :) |
| 18:51.54 | yonij | k...thanx..am trying...no one is responding from hadoop channel :( |
| 18:52.07 | dberkholz | jkwood: just trying to get an idea of whether i'm the only person who cares first =) |
| 18:52.19 | jkwood | (General open source principle there, not a dig at Melange - we don't implement feature requests we don't get either.) |
| 18:52.32 | jkwood | It would definitely be good, yes. |
| 18:52.34 | bawr | yonij: Talk to your org about your idea. |
| 18:52.46 | bawr | I know berkman channels are empty, but wait it out. ;P |
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| 18:53.25 | kblin | dberkholz: which reminds me, as much as you are into data mining, do you happen to have a parser that can deal with the strange multiline CSV lists that melange produces? |
| 18:53.29 | yonij | ya..i have been waiting for around 1 1/2 day...i guess its cos its a weekend |
| 18:53.53 | yonij | bad luk 4 me .. |
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| 18:54.01 | bawr | In all honesty, you should have discussed that *before* you applied. ;P |
| 18:54.06 | kblin | I wonder if I'm the only one having trouble parsing those :) |
| 18:55.02 | dberkholz | kblin: gimme a minute to download one quick and check it out. well, maybe a few minutes since it's going awfully slow |
| 18:55.04 | yonij | bawr:i was luky enof to get the application before the deadline.....but ya you are rit.. |
| 18:55.33 | nmudgal | bawr: how many timesa day berkman's name is written on the channel :) |
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| 18:56.10 | yonij | bawr: I figured out the map reduce thing....I had a misconception on that |
| 18:56.16 | jkwood | berkman[slots]-- |
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| 18:56.19 | bawr | nmudgal: Don't get me started again. |
| 18:56.35 | yonij | :) |
| 18:56.40 | kblin | yonij: would you mind using proper english spelling, by the way? |
| 18:56.42 | bawr | You know, I rather see it as: |
| 18:56.49 | bawr | --berkman.slots; |
| 18:56.54 | yonij | ya..sure |
| 18:56.58 | dberkholz | for some reason they don't just give me the csv as a csv document, they insist on popping it up into a text box. |
| 18:57.12 | kblin | dberkholz: yeah, but it goes on there |
| 18:57.46 | jkwood | --bawr--; |
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| 18:58.05 | nmudgal | bawr: :) |
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| 18:58.42 | anddam | hi |
| 18:58.50 | kblin | dberkholz: the "Abstract" and "Content" fields contain newlines, and whatever is producing that CSV list seems to think escaping those in "" around the whole field is sufficient |
| 18:59.31 | dberkholz | kblin: oocalc seems to import it as a csv |
| 18:59.44 | kblin | dberkholz: it completely messes up the file for me |
| 18:59.54 | kblin | what version of oocalc is that? |
| 19:00.02 | dberkholz | the last field is in the right place for me |
| 19:00.20 | dberkholz | 3.1.1 |
| 19:00.36 | kblin | hm, my work box has 2.4, maybe they improved |
| 19:01.06 | dberkholz | c'mon, you know i'm on gentoo so i have whatever the latest release is =P |
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| 19:01.11 | bawr | jkwood: :( |
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| 19:02.05 | jkwood | bawr: Just kidding. Although, you have a fair point - slots haven't been allocated yet, so postdecrementing wouldn't really work. |
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| 19:04.12 | yonij | can only 1 student work on a project? |
| 19:04.27 | kblin | that's covered in the faq |
| 19:04.29 | kblin | !faq |
| 19:04.29 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
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| 19:06.33 | yonij | not in that sense....can an org have more than 1 student working on a single project? |
| 19:07.14 | jmole | i would say probably |
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| 19:08.01 | kblin | yeah, that's possible, but unlikely |
| 19:08.48 | kblin | dberkholz: ah, right, if I use ooo 3.1 it works for me as well |
| 19:08.53 | kblin | thanks a bunch |
| 19:09.10 | kblin | I only tried Text::CSV and OOo 2.4 |
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| 19:10.37 | dberkholz | kblin: rock on |
| 19:11.00 | dberkholz | yonij: ideally they would split the project somehow so they're not directly competing |
| 19:11.15 | yonij | ya..got it |
| 19:11.37 | thebolt | competing or depending on eachother |
| 19:11.46 | thebolt | it is bad if one student depends on another students work or progress.. |
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| 19:15.17 | micahcowan | Well, even if the work won't _function_ properly without the other's work, I imagine one could be judged based on the quality of _his_ portion, especially if a little testing can be done through a dummy interface to the incomplete work. |
| 19:15.36 | thebolt | yea, but still I would try to avoid it |
| 19:15.42 | micahcowan | agreed |
| 19:15.55 | thebolt | it is always better if the student can complete their work to something working without any dependence on anyone external |
| 19:16.07 | yonij | point |
| 19:16.27 | kblin | like on apple changing the iphone developer agreement on you ;) |
| 19:17.44 | thebolt | kblin: oh? |
| 19:17.44 | jkwood | I'd be very hesitant as a mentoring organization to try to build up from the bottom in GSoC projects - multiple independent projects is fine, but depending on code that's not written is a terrible idea. |
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| 19:18.16 | micahcowan | jkwood, agreed, but sometimes that's where a project's greatest needs are. |
| 19:18.59 | thebolt | micahcowan: well, gsoc isn't (mainly) about the projects greatest needs.. |
| 19:19.10 | dberkholz | gsoc is about whatever a project wants it to be about =) |
| 19:19.10 | jkwood | In my opinion, if you're in that bad of shape, you're probably not in a position to mentor that many projects. |
| 19:19.53 | kblin | thebolt: well, to paraphrase a bald CEO of a redmont-based software company, it's about "developers, developers, developers" |
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| 19:20.11 | kblin | throws a chair at thebolt for good measure |
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| 19:20.16 | micahcowan | thebolt, I disagree. It is roughly equally about the project's needs, as it is about raising awareness/enthusiasm/skill in FOSS. |
| 19:20.40 | thebolt | kblin: :P |
| 19:20.51 | dberkholz | we personally tend to avoid critical-path projects for students, but that's just us, and it's more of a guideline than a rule |
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| 19:21.56 | kblin | micahcowan: dunno, given that most projects done during gsoc could probably be done by the mentor in the time spent mentoring a student, if something is really critical, I'd prefer to let the mentor do it ;) |
| 19:23.08 | micahcowan | Maybe. For smaller projects, though, there are perhaps few needs that aren't pretty significant. |
| 19:23.27 | micahcowan | I'm not sure how I'd define "critical", or whether that would always be the same as a "great need" |
| 19:24.02 | kblin | hm, fair enough |
| 19:24.16 | jkwood | It's not a question of criticality overall - we badly need some of the projects we hope to do this summer - but of critical path projects.. |
| 19:24.39 | kblin | man, why is there always a bucket of pixie dust in every build system? |
| 19:24.50 | jkwood | ie, project 1 depends on project 2 depends on project 3 depends on project 4. |
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| 19:25.18 | thebolt | kblin: cause that is what makes build systems work.. |
| 19:25.38 | jkwood | If project 4 is done, then you can start on project 3 - but if the only project you get done is 1, then you're not really any better off than when you started. |
| 19:25.39 | thebolt | kblin: without the pixie-dust there is no magic.. and build systems definitely needs a lot of magic to work |
| 19:25.41 | kblin | thebolt: probably |
| 19:26.19 | jkwood | In that case, I would never try to assign all 4 projects in a summer, no matter how good the applicants. |
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| 19:40.54 | yonij | is the number of slots same for everry org? |
| 19:41.12 | bawr | No. |
| 19:41.13 | kimelto | nope |
| 19:41.36 | yonij | is there a minimum ? |
| 19:41.41 | smtms | yonij, 1 |
| 19:41.57 | yonij | k |
| 19:43.00 | yonij | i guess its choosen by gogle...the no of slots. |
| 19:43.06 | yonij | * google |
| 19:43.10 | bawr | !faq |
| 19:43.10 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 19:44.07 | Kosma | why asking, really? |
| 19:44.20 | Kosma | it's all in the orgs' hands now. |
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| 19:44.58 | yonij | no...was wondering even if the org wanted it doesnt have a say on the no: of slots |
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| 19:52.33 | x` | 2 more days for the slots ... then the real fun starts! :) |
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| 19:53.57 | yonij | slots will be out in 2 days ? |
| 19:54.33 | yonij | do we get to know about the number? |
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| 19:55.22 | micahcowan | The _initial_ number of slots. |
| 19:55.51 | yonij | so it can only increase rit |
| 19:55.51 | smtms | yonij, knowing the number doesn't help that much |
| 19:55.58 | smtms | yonij, it can decrease |
| 19:56.03 | yonij | agreed |
| 19:56.38 | smtms | yonij, you can have some open-source work done while waiting for the results |
| 19:57.52 | yonij | cool...actually am in the learning phase...havent reached to the contributing phase...am not as good as people around here |
| 19:59.11 | yonij | am 1st time in gsoc...can anyone tell me wat the metor is supposed to do....dont say faq please :) |
| 20:00.39 | yonij | looks like I shouldnt have asked that question. |
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| 20:02.55 | thebolt | !advice |
| 20:02.55 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
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| 20:13.33 | mayanks43 | \me drops a pin to break the silence :P |
| 20:13.57 | mayanks43 | \help |
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| 20:16.51 | mf__ | mayanks43 - It is quiet. I agree. |
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| 20:24.48 | Wolf_OSGeo | micahcowan: intersting, in the dropdown, the willing mentors seem to float to the top :D |
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| 20:25.29 | micahcowan | Yeah, so I'd heard |
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| 20:29.47 | robbyoconnor | !timeline |
| 20:29.48 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 20:32.54 | damonwang | !next |
| 20:32.54 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 20:33.56 | x` | hey Wolf_OSGeo |
| 20:34.19 | x` | sorry I ran of the other day, not sure you noticed though, but i apologize in any case :) |
| 20:34.21 | Wolf_OSGeo | hey x |
| 20:34.40 | Wolf_OSGeo | no prob. I've had a busy weekend :D |
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| 20:35.24 | x` | cool :) |
| 20:35.29 | damonwang | !botabuse |
| 20:35.29 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: about the geoinformatics magazine: I've read it, not all the time but occasionally when I get my hands on a copy |
| 20:35.44 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: I like it too :) |
| 20:35.53 | x` | woo, so you probably know my paps! :) |
| 20:36.03 | x` | he was editor in chief for a while too |
| 20:36.18 | x` | i brag about him as much as i can, sorry about that |
| 20:36.27 | Wolf_OSGeo | cool! :) I couldn't actually name any editors by name though... |
| 20:36.36 | x` | listen... i was wondering ... what made you choose geo over bioinfo? |
| 20:36.58 | Wolf_OSGeo | heh, you should. Being editor in chief for geoinformatics is no lean feat :) |
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| 20:37.15 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: It was my love of maps :D |
| 20:37.17 | robbyoconnor | jesus christ |
| 20:37.27 | robbyoconnor | I love the "help, I missed the deadline" emails |
| 20:37.46 | Wolf_OSGeo | robbyoconnor: you got many? |
| 20:37.54 | bawr | Come on, give us a long overdue rant. :) |
| 20:37.57 | robbyoconnor | Wolf_OSGeo: on the discussion list lol |
| 20:38.01 | robbyoconnor | nahhh |
| 20:38.03 | robbyoconnor | rant done :) |
| 20:38.06 | Wolf_OSGeo | Wolf_OSGeo: ah! |
| 20:38.15 | bawr | Aww. |
| 20:38.18 | robbyoconnor | I get more joy crushing the hopes of students in a nice way :) |
| 20:38.44 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: when I realized I could combine maps with computing (and databases) I was sold! :D |
| 20:39.27 | x` | Wolf_OSGeo: ah ... in that case i very much understand what you are saying ... i spent a couple of hours in the old man's office few weeks back ... it has some very old austro-hungarian maps of the region where i come from ... i was completely blown away |
| 20:39.49 | x` | but you know i think a lot of the art of mapmaking has been lost in the last hundred of years |
| 20:39.49 | Wolf_OSGeo | droooolll ;) |
| 20:39.51 | robbyoconnor | bawr: join #robbyoconnorrants |
| 20:40.01 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: I fully agree!! |
| 20:40.04 | robbyoconnor | I plan on ranting there :D |
| 20:40.21 | robbyoconnor | ajuonline: you got your wish! |
| 20:40.22 | robbyoconnor | lol |
| 20:40.41 | x` | Wolf_OSGeo: drool indeed. they were old military maps, everything from the graphics to the typography was just supreme |
| 20:40.48 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: One of my dreams it to make a modern map which also has artistic value. |
| 20:40.55 | x` | you could navigate those hills even now, 250 years later :) |
| 20:40.57 | Wolf_OSGeo | wow! |
| 20:41.18 | x` | i'll try to find some digital form of it, if you'd like to see it |
| 20:41.34 | x` | as far as i know my dad, he likes to share stuff with enthusiasts |
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| 20:42.52 | robbyoconnor | you two like cartography(sp?) |
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| 20:43.43 | Wolf_OSGeo | robbyoconnor: I breath cartography! ;) |
| 20:43.54 | Wolf_OSGeo | x`: yes please! |
| 20:44.19 | lolfrenz | can we ever see the ratings of our proposal? |
| 20:44.23 | Landon | wonders if you can fix my cart that has the squeaky wheel |
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| 20:45.11 | robbyoconnor | what's your major Wolf_OSGeo |
| 20:45.12 | robbyoconnor | :) |
| 20:45.23 | Wolf_OSGeo | robbyoconnor: geoinformatics |
| 20:45.41 | Wolf_OSGeo | with a cartography minor |
| 20:46.13 | robbyoconnor | nice |
| 20:46.49 | Wolf_OSGeo | it is :) |
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| 20:47.15 | Wolf_OSGeo | it is thanks to that, I'm here as admin for OSGeo |
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| 20:50.02 | thebolt | Wolf_OSGeo: you could say it is due to my education i am no longer an admin/mentor in gsoc :P |
| 20:51.17 | Wolf_OSGeo | thebolt: aww :( |
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| 20:54.49 | AshishG | wishes there were more hours in a day... at least these days |
| 20:55.16 | thebolt | AshishG: word! |
| 20:55.35 | AshishG | word!? |
| 20:55.44 | AshishG | oh you agree? |
| 20:55.46 | thebolt | Wolf_OSGeo: well, i enjoy what i do though, who knows, one day i might find another project i want to support |
| 20:55.49 | thebolt | AshishG: yes :) |
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| 20:56.31 | AshishG | thebolt: :) |
| 20:56.40 | Wolf_OSGeo | thebolt: Let's hope you do :D |
| 20:56.47 | thebolt | Wolf_OSGeo: and some time to do it :P |
| 20:56.57 | Wolf_OSGeo | heh :) I hear ya! |
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| 21:02.57 | kblin | thebolt: you could use a time machine |
| 21:03.36 | Landon | I like time machines |
| 21:03.39 | kblin | thebolt: if you do all your work while running around an infinite rotating cylinder, I think you can slow down the surrounding time |
| 21:03.53 | thebolt | kblin: yea, well, i already promised someone else the first time-machine i build |
| 21:04.05 | thebolt | so i would have to build two to get one for myself |
| 21:04.12 | thebolt | but as they say.. the first time is the hardest ;) |
| 21:04.22 | Wolf_OSGeo | heh :) |
| 21:04.25 | Landon | watch out for morlocks |
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| 21:04.34 | Landon | when you're doing testing and such |
| 21:04.35 | Landon | :) |
| 21:04.39 | thebolt | Landon: wilco |
| 21:04.39 | Wolf_OSGeo | I'm going to sleep, see ya guys later |
| 21:04.49 | thebolt | good night Wolf_OSGeo |
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| 21:05.12 | kblin | thebolt: well, you could use the first time machine to go to the future where you mass-produce them, get a couple of units and then go back ;) |
| 21:05.19 | Wolf_OSGeo | you too thebolt (you have to sleep eventually :P) |
| 21:05.36 | thebolt | kblin: :P |
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| 21:07.24 | ankitg | I guess that's precisely why the first one is the hardest ... |
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| 21:08.05 | thebolt | hm.. i should get a shower, do my yearly income tax declaration and get to bed.. |
| 21:08.24 | kblin | whee, I once again realized that my favourite german webcomic now has an english translation |
| 21:08.31 | kblin | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100202.html |
| 21:09.37 | thebolt | (and yes, it is no problem doing all of it and get to bed in 30 minutes from now.. got to love the efficiency of the swedish tax department .) |
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| 21:12.53 | kblin | thebolt: http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/090804.html |
| 21:12.59 | kblin | that's the one I was looking for\ |
| 21:13.33 | thebolt | kblin: :) |
| 21:13.38 | AshishG | soc: code from home, meet pros, learn from them AND get paid. brilliant scheme :) |
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| 21:40.21 | thebolt | there, shower and taxes done.. time for tea :) |
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| 21:54.09 | Nils^ | hi there. My students application is "public". I wanted it this way and I think it makes it possible for other possible to read my proposal. But how? Or other way around: Is there a way to just browse and read some public proposals? |
| 21:56.12 | sreich | no, I think you need to give everyone the public link |
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| 22:04.19 | TheLorax | is it possible to see submitted applications? I noticed there was a "make it public" checkbox |
| 22:04.45 | ojwb | only if you give people the link AFAIK |
| 22:05.28 | jmole | that would be cool if you could browse through them |
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| 22:21.18 | ebo | kblin: those comics are BRILIANT! |
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| 22:26.46 | drt24 | and far more entertaining than packing which is what I was supposed to be doing... |
| 22:26.48 | drt24 | :-) |
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