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| 05:51.07 | cbx | Hey, I wanted to work for xbmc for gsoc (or just work on xbmc, amazing app :) I'd like to know what kind of coding / programming experience is expected from the applicant |
| 05:54.26 | Landon | might want to check in the xbmc channel for that |
| 05:54.34 | Landon | it varies (a lot) between orgs |
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| 06:04.26 | cbx | If i wanted to get better at coding, where should I start? |
| 06:05.55 | Landon | in general or with a specific language? |
| 06:05.58 | Landon | well |
| 06:06.16 | Landon | either way, scratch some of your own itches, make apps that you find a need for |
| 06:06.36 | Landon | once you feel competent enough, take a peek at some bug lists for larger projects and try fixing a couple |
| 06:07.19 | cbx | I've coded a space invader game in vb. Looks really lame, How does that stand up? |
| 06:07.44 | Landon | well, I don't think any projects here use vb :P |
| 06:07.48 | cbx | hehe |
| 06:07.55 | cbx | from the past year I've been more of an electronics guy |
| 06:07.58 | Landon | you could try porting it to another language like C or python |
| 06:08.04 | Landon | neat, what's your major? |
| 06:08.06 | cbx | thinking of making a cheap RF remtote that fakes itself as a USB |
| 06:08.13 | cbx | Electronics and Telecom |
| 06:08.22 | cbx | Tho I was forced into it, I wanted computers |
| 06:08.47 | cbx | I install/ setup / hack wordpress/ joomla websites for freelancing |
| 06:09.59 | Landon | heh :P |
| 06:10.40 | Landon | but, probably one of the easier ways to get better at coding is to immerse yourself in a projects codebase while fixing a bug ;) |
| 06:10.51 | Landon | learning by osmosis |
| 06:18.00 | cbx | mmhmm, planning to do that with xbmc |
| 06:18.19 | cbx | now that I've mentioned it, are there any organistions based on embedded systems / robotics / microcontrollers? or is it all desktop / web apps |
| 06:19.46 | Landon | yes! |
| 06:20.11 | Landon | trying to remember the name of it, but I know there's at least a real time OS project |
| 06:20.17 | cbx | uclinux? |
| 06:20.23 | cbx | oh well, then I'll find it :D |
| 06:20.35 | cbx | damn, now I gotta chose between xbmc and the OS :| |
| 06:20.44 | Landon | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2009/rtems |
| 06:21.08 | Landon | and I think geda was in it at one point, I don't remember if they were last year tough |
| 06:21.13 | cbx | handhelds.org was a mentor in 2005, looking at what it has to offer |
| 06:21.45 | cbx | also, all this is 2009 data, when should I expect 2010 stuff to be updated? |
| 06:21.46 | Landon | of course there are no 2010 orgs yet ;) so there may be more/less |
| 06:22.01 | Landon | afaik the 2010 program hasn't even been announced yet, it'll be a couple of months |
| 06:22.07 | cbx | mmhm |
| 06:22.10 | cbx | ah. I know xbmc is interested :D |
| 06:22.20 | cbx | hopes that rtems is too |
| 06:22.46 | Landon | http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm this is for 08 |
| 06:24.14 | cbx | thanks |
| 06:24.30 | cbx | I'm look at the 06 - 08 lists. Didn't find 09 yet |
| 06:30.47 | cbx | from drupal: You must not overbook yourself. Working on your Drupal project should be your main activity for the entire summer. You'll have a lot to learn before you will get to the point where you can begin coding your project, and the projects are all non-trivial. We will provide you with amazing support from the mentors and community, but it is up to you to make sure that you can focus on your Drupal project. |
| 06:31.03 | cbx | this makes me feel I can just apply with my ideas and will be trained :D |
| 06:31.31 | cbx | I could work on drupal's media system too. That needs a fix! :P |
| 06:34.32 | Dark_Shikari | heh, imo any project that can't apply that description to themselves shouldn't be doing gsoc |
| 06:35.24 | cbx | Dark_Shikari: You're giving me false hope of having a chance to get accepted |
| 06:35.37 | cbx | I can't code ffs |
| 06:36.02 | MatthewWilkes | cbx: Nonsense, we care about getting students that want to learn and get better, not the ones that think they know everything |
| 06:36.35 | MatthewWilkes | A coder fresh out of university that thinks he knows everything is the one that needs the most work to make into a decent coder, in my experience |
| 06:36.45 | cbx | ha |
| 06:36.58 | cbx | hmm, Think I should grab some book on C and blast thru it |
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| 06:41.21 | MatthewWilkes | good idea |
| 06:41.43 | MatthewWilkes | but do things that are fun, not just things you think are a good idea |
| 06:42.29 | cbx | yeah, I really like the xbmc project |
| 06:42.49 | cbx | I was gonna do some mod, but on the electronics side (RF remote control / Web Remote control) etc |
| 06:42.53 | cbx | for fun |
| 06:43.09 | cbx | will do those for starters |
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| 11:26.57 | JeroenDeDauw | Hey guys. Is there a map yet that has all student - mentor connections on it? |
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| 12:47.31 | JeroenDeDauw | Hey guys. Is there a map yet that has all student - mentor connections on it? |
| 12:48.15 | Ivanovic | no |
| 12:48.19 | Ivanovic | not all |
| 12:48.34 | Ivanovic | since this information (and if it is available) is purely optional |
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| 13:16.34 | [BIOS]Varrun | I was interested in knowing, if it is more advisable to work on how to achieve existing project ideas on the organization page, or look for new ideas to implement in the project |
| 13:19.08 | Ivanovic | [BIOS]Varrun: the best thing to do is go to the org and *talk* to them |
| 13:19.13 | Ivanovic | they will be able to tell you |
| 13:19.38 | summatusmentis | very, very true |
| 13:19.42 | Ivanovic | in general you should get some knowledge about the project so that you have a feeling what makes sense |
| 13:20.22 | summatusmentis | some of the orgs I talked to initially liked the initiative it showed if you came up with a new idea |
| 13:20.42 | summatusmentis | others I'm sure put what they wantdone on their list, and give priority to that |
| 13:21.06 | summatusmentis | but Ivanovic is right, you should talk to the org |
| 13:21.09 | [BIOS]Varrun | ok |
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| 18:20.30 | [mharrison] | Catfish_Man, you're still here? _I_'m still here?! |
| 18:20.38 | Catfish_Man | heh |
| 18:20.39 | Catfish_Man | yup |
| 18:20.48 | Catfish_Man | I'm always here ;) |
| 18:21.08 | [mharrison] | Me too for some odd reason |
| 18:21.38 | [mharrison] | Despite the fact that I didn't do SoC last year and won't be eligible this year |
| 18:21.51 | Chainsaw | You can always mentor. |
| 18:22.04 | Catfish_Man | #gsoc: come for the programming, stay for the tea and cookies! |
| 18:22.14 | [mharrison] | lol |
| 18:23.34 | cbx | I wanna do soc, but I'm really new to coding |
| 18:24.27 | cbx | [mharrison]: which org did you work for? |
| 18:25.40 | [mharrison] | In the 3 summers I participated, OLPC, OpenMRS, SFLC |
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