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| 00:23.53 | dalmaer | hi chaps :) |
| 00:24.05 | dalmaer | going to be fun, this year on the other side and will be applying as Mozilla Labs :) |
| 00:24.20 | Catfish_Man | nice :) |
| 00:24.23 | Catfish_Man | hi dalmaer |
| 00:25.02 | dalmaer | Now i just need to find the place to apply ;) |
| 00:25.52 | dalmaer | http://socghop.appspot.com/ here I come |
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| 00:26.34 | dalmaer | I believe that Mozilla is already in there. Should I try to put my project under that umbrella? Or can I create a Mozilla Labs application? |
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| 00:28.13 | dalmaer | oops |
| 00:28.41 | ojwb | it's ok to enter data (encouraged in fact) but you aren't actually applying |
| 00:29.32 | scorche | dalmaer: note the timeline ;) |
| 00:29.35 | scorche | ~timeline |
| 00:29.36 | ibot | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ |
| 00:30.16 | dalmaer | March 9th is when we can START OK |
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| 04:33.17 | dukeleto | howdy |
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| 04:57.13 | ecin | Evening. |
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| 05:31.56 | dukeleto | if any one here would like to be a mentor for The Perl Foundation this year, signup at http://bit.ly/Hht5E |
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| 07:39.18 | proudfoot | this channel is so damned empty |
| 07:39.18 | proudfoot | :( |
| 07:39.26 | milki | really? |
| 07:39.35 | beket | Everyone's working perhaps:) |
| 07:45.16 | scorche | i wouldnt call 171 users empty.. |
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| 07:45.54 | scorche | and just wait...i think last year, this channel was setting off flood/activity alerts to freenode staffers ;) |
| 07:46.35 | proudfoot | heh |
| 07:46.46 | proudfoot | my log shows 3 hours of quit messages |
| 07:54.23 | ojwb | proudfoot: perhaps it's just too early in the program |
| 07:55.07 | ojwb | it is also the night in the US and early morning in Europe |
| 07:56.19 | scorche | yeah...later on, this channel will get quite active |
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| 09:50.00 | Catfish_Man | hrmph. Since when am I not an op here :( |
| 09:50.05 | Catfish_Man | just tried to ban him |
| 09:50.16 | antarus | the ircd got him anyway |
| 09:50.22 | scorche | Catfish_Man: you arent identified |
| 09:50.33 | Catfish_Man | oh. Huh. I guess autoident broke again |
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| 09:51.54 | antarus | stabs REST in the face |
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| 09:53.51 | ojwb | hmm, i thought freenode frowned on people have op status all the time |
| 09:54.14 | Catfish_Man | I've certainly not heard of such a policy |
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| 09:54.26 | Catfish_Man | the only reason we stopped having autoop in #adium was to make it a friendlier atmosphere |
| 09:54.43 | scorche | ojwb: they dont frown on it, but it is a suggested policy |
| 09:54.54 | ojwb | ah, ok |
| 09:55.11 | scorche | (that i agree with...but i dont make the rules in this channel) ;) |
| 09:55.34 | ojwb | in a really busy channel, it's handy to be able to deal with miscreants quicker I guess |
| 09:55.46 | Catfish_Man | yeah |
| 09:56.18 | ojwb | ah yes 'We strongly suggest that you avoid configuring your channel to "auto-op"' |
| 09:56.27 | scorche | just has the "/cs op #channel" bit aliased away....no time lost there |
| 09:56.38 | Catfish_Man | ojwb: do they offer a rationale? |
| 09:56.50 | scorche | Catfish_Man: it keeps the channel temperature down, etc |
| 09:56.53 | ojwb | yes: 'Use the chanserv "op" command to obtain channel operator status only when needed. This will help to keep your channel temperature low and reduce conflicts.' |
| 09:57.11 | Catfish_Man | mmk, fair enough |
| 09:57.28 | ojwb | so the reason #adium did |
| 09:58.07 | scorche | i have found it quite useful (and amusing) around certain people who wouldnt act the way they did if they thought an op was around |
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| 09:59.36 | antarus | -> bed |
| 09:59.43 | Catfish_Man | 'night antarus |
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| 10:01.24 | Catfish_Man | that one tried to /msg flood me |
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| 10:02.47 | scorche | fixed |
| 10:03.00 | Catfish_Man | yeah, I was thinking about doing that, wasn't sure if mibbit used that username by default |
| 10:03.28 | scorche | nope...as with many (well, the few that exist) web clients, it is just the IP in hex |
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| 14:14.17 | lut4rp | ~timeline |
| 14:14.17 | ibot | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ |
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| 15:46.52 | rkatiyar | hi |
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| 16:44.03 | VDVsx | hello |
| 16:44.13 | VDVsx | the orgs backup mentors need to be registered in melange/GSoC webapp right ? |
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| 17:04.09 | wallerdev | hey |
| 17:06.18 | literal | hi |
| 17:06.23 | wallerdev | what's up? |
| 17:06.36 | literal | dunno |
| 17:06.40 | wallerdev | oh |
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| 17:11.41 | summatusmentis | hi wallerdev |
| 17:12.09 | wallerdev | hey |
| 17:12.11 | wallerdev | :) |
| 17:12.18 | wallerdev | what's up? |
| 17:13.43 | summatusmentis | not a lot, sitting at work |
| 17:13.45 | summatusmentis | wasting time |
| 17:13.53 | summatusmentis | should be doing spanish homework |
| 17:13.56 | wallerdev | ah |
| 17:14.01 | wallerdev | i should be doing db homework |
| 17:14.10 | summatusmentis | it's a blast, let me tell you |
| 17:14.18 | wallerdev | yeah i took 4 years of spanish |
| 17:14.19 | wallerdev | =\ |
| 17:14.34 | summatusmentis | I took 7, didn't use it for 7, and am now dual majoring in it |
| 17:14.41 | wallerdev | heh |
| 17:14.57 | araujo | español es facil mi amigo |
| 17:14.59 | araujo | :D |
| 17:15.22 | summatusmentis | si, claro, pero no lo he usado por muchos años |
| 17:15.29 | wallerdev | so what should i do if i want to do gsoc? just wait until the projects list opens or whatever? |
| 17:15.30 | araujo | entiendo |
| 17:16.08 | summatusmentis | wallerdev: I would look at what orgs have been accepted in the past, and start looking at what you'd want to work on |
| 17:16.40 | wallerdev | is there an easy way to filter them by programming language |
| 17:16.50 | wallerdev | since there's quite a few orgs on the list from 2008 |
| 17:17.37 | summatusmentis | from there, start talking to orgs you're interested in, and go from there |
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| 18:41.43 | craker123 | hello |
| 18:41.50 | ecin | Hi. |
| 18:42.08 | craker123 | is there any possibility for me under C#? |
| 18:42.12 | craker123 | for GSOC |
| 18:42.26 | codestr0m | craker123: ask the mono guys if they are participating in the gsoc this year |
| 18:42.28 | codestr0m | that's your best chance |
| 18:42.37 | craker123 | ok |
| 18:42.39 | craker123 | thanks |
| 18:42.55 | craker123 | except mono are there any other chance? |
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| 18:45.31 | codestr0m | craker123: mono guys will know best the open source field for C# code.. join gimp.net and ask there |
| 18:45.39 | codestr0m | or maybe they have a wiki page |
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| 20:52.09 | DanParker | noes :( i won't have the time to do GSOC this year |
| 20:52.32 | ajuonline | do it next year :) |
| 20:52.39 | DanParker | i will be :) |
| 20:52.50 | ajuonline | meanwhile, work on FOSS. |
| 20:53.07 | DanParker | foss? |
| 20:53.16 | Landon | free/open source software |
| 20:53.51 | DanParker | oh, never heard that acronym before |
| 20:53.59 | rohananil | ah :) |
| 20:54.07 | rohananil | hey all |
| 20:54.10 | rohananil | hey ajuonline |
| 20:54.11 | DanParker | and i will be hopefully :) |
| 20:54.37 | ajuonline | rohananil: hey! :) |
| 20:54.51 | rohananil | i need some help with graphics something related with ray tracing |
| 20:56.04 | rohananil | :) |
| 20:56.19 | rohananil | ajuonline: whats up? waves starts tmmrw :P |
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| 20:57.10 | ajuonline | rohananil: lol, i thought it was 7-9? |
| 20:57.20 | rohananil | i got the date wrong :) |
| 20:57.26 | rohananil | 6-8th hehe |
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| 21:05.21 | AlexanderAllen82 | Hello everybody, I'm am interested in either planning or programming for the SOC, can anyone help me? |
| 21:06.26 | literal | planning? |
| 21:06.27 | ajuonline | AlexanderAllen82: planning is taken care by google. programming wise, you can work on melange. |
| 21:10.07 | AlexanderAllen82 | Sorry, but I'm new to IRC also |
| 21:10.16 | AlexanderAllen82 | I thought I'd be spamming the room |
| 21:10.25 | AlexanderAllen82 | ;) |
| 21:10.32 | schumaml | some organizations might appreciate help with their project proposals, though |
| 21:11.10 | schumaml | this will usually require knowledge of their present and futre plans, of course |
| 21:11.14 | schumaml | future |
| 21:11.17 | AlexanderAllen82 | Hmm |
| 21:11.26 | AlexanderAllen82 | I was reading http://groups.drupal.org/node/18127, but ended up here |
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| 21:11.49 | AlexanderAllen82 | Im pretty sure I could spend 10-15 hours a week of programming |
| 21:12.27 | schumaml | um... how much do you know about the SoC schedule? |
| 21:12.37 | AlexanderAllen82 | nothing |
| 21:12.58 | danderson | that's not even part time. Any particular reason you can't do more? |
| 21:12.58 | AlexanderAllen82 | I've never participated in it, but I have seen it mentioned both in Drupal and php.net |
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| 21:13.18 | danderson | To be clear: there is no specific time commitment *required* for SoC, but don't be fooled, it is a lot of work :) |
| 21:13.21 | AlexanderAllen82 | So I'm wondering what this big thing is and how can I participate to sharpen my skills and get to know other developers |
| 21:13.31 | AlexanderAllen82 | :) |
| 21:14.03 | danderson | just wondering, since when I did SoC, I treated it like a full time job, 8 hours a day (actually more, since I was enjoying myself) |
| 21:14.12 | AlexanderAllen82 | wow |
| 21:14.19 | schumaml | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/ |
| 21:14.52 | AlexanderAllen82 | thanks for the link, I just saved it |
| 21:14.55 | Ivanovic | it is like a replacement job for "burger flipping" |
| 21:15.04 | danderson | pretty much |
| 21:15.07 | Ivanovic | with other words: it should be seen as full time job |
| 21:15.18 | danderson | that said, I've seen successful projects with people working 15hrs a week |
| 21:15.19 | AlexanderAllen82 | nice |
| 21:15.23 | danderson | and failed projects with people working 50 hours a week |
| 21:15.32 | Ivanovic | yes, both is possible |
| 21:15.33 | schumaml | has to be seen as a full time job, at least from our org's experience |
| 21:15.45 | danderson | it doesn't mean much. Kinda like working at google: it's not how much time you put into it, it's what you *do* |
| 21:15.46 | AlexanderAllen82 | I see |
| 21:16.06 | danderson | result-oriented evaluation, not punchclock evaluation |
| 21:16.48 | AlexanderAllen82 | Um, well, I must obviously work in order to pay for my broadband, else I wont be able to do commits ;) |
| 21:16.52 | schumaml | danderson: this wasn't "15hrs a week and another job", I assume? |
| 21:17.00 | AlexanderAllen82 | Well |
| 21:17.03 | AlexanderAllen82 | I dont work alone |
| 21:17.32 | AlexanderAllen82 | I have a small organization of eager project managers and programmers |
| 21:17.56 | AlexanderAllen82 | If each one of us (4 in total) put up a little, we could end up with a nice project |
| 21:17.58 | danderson | schumaml: no. 15hrs a week and exams for one part, and 15hrs+holiday for the rest |
| 21:18.01 | AlexanderAllen82 | or at least help another project |
| 21:18.12 | danderson | as far as I remember, the org wasn't complaining, shit was getting done |
| 21:18.28 | AlexanderAllen82 | danderson: lol |
| 21:18.28 | danderson | AlexanderAllen82: note that SoC is an individual thing. Groups cannot participate. |
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| 21:18.41 | AlexanderAllen82 | wot? |
| 21:18.48 | AlexanderAllen82 | oh i see |
| 21:18.53 | danderson | well, let's start over |
| 21:18.57 | schumaml | ... and it is targeted at students. check the eligibility requirements |
| 21:18.58 | danderson | you want to participate as a student, right? |
| 21:19.02 | danderson | not a mentor org? |
| 21:19.20 | AlexanderAllen82 | I dont know, I was a student in college until last semester |
| 21:19.35 | danderson | and yeah, also what schumaml. To participate as a student, you must be currently enrolled in some kind of degree |
| 21:19.43 | AlexanderAllen82 | But I didn't enroll this semester because I wanted to go to Drupalcon |
| 21:19.57 | AlexanderAllen82 | well, then I guess I am not eligible... |
| 21:20.04 | AlexanderAllen82 | =/ |
| 21:20.05 | danderson | there's some cutoff date. You have to be enrolled by some time in June iirc |
| 21:20.08 | danderson | check the FAQ |
| 21:20.11 | danderson | it has all the answers |
| 21:20.34 | AlexanderAllen82 | yup, I will! Thanks for the link! |
| 21:20.54 | AlexanderAllen82 | If I am not eligible as student, is there any other way I can be of help? |
| 21:21.30 | AlexanderAllen82 | I.E. mentorship .... |
| 21:21.56 | rohananil | AlexanderAllen82: yes you can :) |
| 21:22.52 | AlexanderAllen82 | rohananil: ? |
| 21:23.21 | rohananil | you can be a mentor for some organization :) |
| 21:23.31 | rohananil | and help students like (me) us :) |
| 21:23.44 | AlexanderAllen82 | :) |
| 21:24.12 | AlexanderAllen82 | What project do you work for? Im a LAMP and Drupal Dev |
| 21:24.36 | rohananil | last year soc with opensuse :) |
| 21:25.16 | AlexanderAllen82 | nice |
| 21:25.42 | AlexanderAllen82 | what did u do? |
| 21:25.48 | Ivanovic | AlexanderAllen82: at the moment you could help "your org(s)" with their application |
| 21:26.11 | Ivanovic | writing up things and improving them, so that the application is more likely to be accepted |
| 21:26.52 | AlexanderAllen82 | Ivanovic: That would be Drupal in my case... |
| 21:27.04 | Ivanovic | after this help is accepted with "handling" new students that appear and ask "how can i get in" |
| 21:27.19 | Ivanovic | stuff like this really requires some efford and a helping hand is always welcome |
| 21:27.31 | AlexanderAllen82 | sounds nice |
| 21:27.42 | Ivanovic | you could eg look for some "easy coding" tasks for students to get an idea how to get into working on drupal |
| 21:27.44 | Ivanovic | stuff like this |
| 21:28.46 | AlexanderAllen82 | hmm. |
| 21:29.03 | AlexanderAllen82 | Well, I guess I'll go back to Drupal.org |
| 21:29.13 | AlexanderAllen82 | Thanks everyone for your help =) |
| 21:29.22 | Ivanovic | you're welcome |
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| 22:03.07 | Gamara | holy crap, picasaweb lost a full album of mine. |
| 22:03.13 | Gamara | Whisky, tango, foxtrot. |
| 22:03.26 | scorche | spies a Gamara! |
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| 23:40.07 | mlankhorst | heu |
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| 23:40.18 | mlankhorst | hops down on the free couch |
| 23:40.55 | ojwb | Free as in couch? |
| 23:41.06 | mlankhorst | yes |
| 23:41.59 | spectie | trash diving :D |
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| 23:48.04 | Magestis | hi, i have a question about google summer of code : how many hours are we suggested to work? |
| 23:48.12 | mlankhorst | !faq |
| 23:48.21 | spectie | ~faq |
| 23:48.22 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 23:48.51 | spectie | Magestis, |
| 23:48.51 | spectie | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.51 | spectie | The amount of time you will need depends on both the scope of your project and the requirements of your mentoring organization. While your organization may offer some flexibility around milestone completion dates, you should expect your project to be your primary focus. If you have a great internship starting soon or you're planning a month long backpacking trip, you likely won't be a good candidate for the program. |
| 23:48.56 | Magestis | i've been there, and the answer isn't really clear... |
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| 23:49.29 | scorche | well, we cant really give you a solid number...as it says, it depends on both the scope of your project and the requirements of your mentoring organization. |
| 23:49.56 | mlankhorst | http://code.google.com:80/intl/nl/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_student_time_4542307971424_26897233126028375 |
| 23:50.00 | mlankhorst | maybe I'm reading wrong |
| 23:50.20 | spectie | Magestis, is english your first language? |
| 23:51.29 | Magestis | no, but i think i speak english pretty well, and nowhere in this i have an approximation of the amount of wor i need to put in per week let's say... |
| 23:51.47 | Magestis | is it more 10 hours a week? 20? 30? |
| 23:51.48 | spectie | Magestis, "you should expect your project to be your primary focus." |
| 23:51.50 | scorche | [16:49:34] <@scorche> well, we cant really give you a solid number...as it says, it depends on both the scope of your project and the requirements of your mentoring organization. |
| 23:51.59 | spectie | Magestis, i guess it's like having a full time job |
| 23:52.05 | spectie | so 6-8 hours/day 5 days/week |
| 23:52.13 | Magestis | ok then |
| 23:52.14 | scorche | if you want a number, lets just say 40 hours a week...it is probably wrong, but it is on the safe side |
| 23:52.32 | Magestis | thanks a lot! |
| 23:52.37 | spectie | np |
| 23:52.54 | scorche | boggles |
| 23:52.59 | spectie | :) |
| 23:53.33 | mlankhorst | next time say something like.. |
| 23:53.36 | mlankhorst | 'epsilon' |
| 23:53.48 | spectie | haha |