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| 14:27.04 | florian | philippe: I just tried to build latest gtk webcore... looks like we need to update the bbs. |
| 14:27.30 | florian | we need osb-jscore-native |
| 14:31.33 | XorA | florian: when did that change? |
| 14:34.48 | florian | XorA: I don't know, i just started a build with gpe pim and gpe-mini-browser stuff from svn to check if we can release some more bits. |
| 14:35.21 | florian | I get "configure: error: Script create_hash_table (part of gtk-webcore-jscore) not f..." |
| 14:35.29 | florian | building nrcore |
| 14:37.06 | XorA | florian: oh, I changed that by including jscore source in webcore, someone must have undone it |
| 14:37.18 | XorA | florian: its a perl script it looks for if I recall |
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| 14:39.38 | florian | oops |
| 14:40.09 | florian | XorA: did my question make it to the #? |
| 14:40.22 | XorA | florian: I assume not |
| 14:40.32 | florian | XorA: "oh, when did you change that? i did not update that tree today" |
| 14:40.44 | XorA | florian: ages ago |
| 14:40.49 | florian | something is wrong with the internet connection here |
| 14:40.57 | XorA | florian: as in a few weeks |
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| 14:41.57 | florian | XorA: ok, let me check |
| 14:41.59 | florian | hi bedboi |
| 14:42.22 | XorA | florian: it was a bit of a hack so maybe someone "fixed" it better since then |
| 14:42.54 | bedboi | florian: hi there. |
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| 15:05.30 | florian | XorA: The line that installs the script is still there, but maybe it is not found anymore |
| 15:08.56 | florian | i see, the directory name changed |
| 15:13.27 | florian | XorA: ok, seems to work... i'll push that later |
| 15:19.03 | mccarthy_ | florian, still no joy on gpe-calendar release? |
| 15:19.50 | florian | mccarthy_: basically yes, but i want to test the whole thing on a device before releasing. |
| 15:21.42 | mccarthy_ | what did you do with regard to neal and (L)GPL? |
| 15:22.55 | florian | mccarthy_: To avoid waiting endless i'll make this release of libgpevtype GPL. I'm fed up with the discussion... |
| 15:24.29 | mccarthy_ | ok |
| 15:24.56 | mccarthy_ | florian, if it makes any difference, I have been using all of it on my desktop with no troubles for a long time |
| 15:28.39 | florian | mccarthy_: that's good, i guess you are a much better user than i am |
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| 17:28.26 | philippe | florian: I know I have been looking at it. Did not think about having a native package though. |
| 17:28.49 | philippe | I got stuck because of some script that the nrcit build does not seem to find |
| 17:29.18 | philippe | s/nrcit/nrcore/ |
| 17:30.09 | florian | philippe: don't worry... XorA|gone fixed that already, only the location and some library names changed. |
| 17:30.14 | Kompo | that's script installed by gtk-webcore-jscore to $prefix/share/gtk-webcore-jscore |
| 17:30.23 | florian | i can push all these changes later |
| 17:30.45 | Kompo | ah. |
| 17:31.07 | Kompo | (i changed the webcore package names a while ago) |
| 17:31.19 | florian | Kompo: i just noticed :-) |
| 17:31.33 | Kompo | florian: I thought you guys always pull some revision, not the head? |
| 17:32.20 | florian | Kompo: usually yes, but i'm building an experimental image with some very up to date stuff. |
| 17:33.56 | Kompo | florian: right. |
| 17:38.02 | philippe | florian: ok good :-) |
| 17:38.15 | philippe | I started to look into it a while ago, but ran out of time |
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| 18:01.45 | florian | philippe: i can build all webcore stuff now, but before i can test i need to fix some more... e.g needing gpe-bluetooth svn |
| 18:11.28 | philippe | florian: yep, that might be one of the components I haven't svn-ed |
| 18:17.38 | florian | :-) |
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| 18:42.21 | florian | bbl |
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| 19:10.00 | mimecar | hi |
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| 19:40.32 | philippe | hi mimecar |
| 19:40.42 | mimecar | evening philippe |
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| 19:59.52 | trevarthan | Hey, I just bought a nokia n800 and have started using gpe on it. Previously I used a flat text file for todo management. Worked pretty well, but not so convenient on a touch screen. One thing I liked about my text file is that I always knew when tasks were started and finished. I notice that gpe todo doesn't track this meta data. Is that a bad idea in the world of PIM? Or is it just waiting for a developer to implement it? |
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| 20:33.50 | philippe | trevarthan: what do you mean with started and finished? |
| 20:34.15 | philippe | like time measuring? |
| 20:35.56 | trevarthan | Not measuring. Just checkpointing. I like to be able to go back and say, yeah, I did that on date X. |
| 20:36.42 | mimecar | do you want store finish date on a item, don't you ? |
| 20:38.08 | trevarthan | Yeah, and an entrydate. But finish date is more important. |
| 20:38.31 | mimecar | do todo app store finish date on item ? |
| 20:39.51 | trevarthan | I only see a due date. But I don't have the code in front of me. Just the app. |
| 20:40.17 | mimecar | you can store the finish date on note |
| 20:43.11 | philippe | yeah that would work. |
| 20:43.41 | philippe | I think gpe-todo hides by default finished tasks, but I think that can be configured. |
| 20:43.59 | mimecar | you can show completed task |
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| 20:50.19 | trevarthan | So... Are you guys saying it's not a bad idea and it isn't currently implemented? |
| 20:50.41 | florian | re |
| 20:50.46 | mimecar | re florian |
| 20:50.53 | mimecar | trevarthan: with a fix on user interface |
| 20:51.06 | mimecar | and some code on sql database..., it could be more or less easy |
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| 20:52.56 | trevarthan | Cool. I may look into that then. Is there any sort of ui size limit? Can we only show x num fields at once? |
| 20:53.21 | mimecar | I think you have free space on UI |
| 20:53.44 | trevarthan | I know not all screens are as wide as the n800's. |
| 20:54.02 | mimecar | collie is 240x320 |
| 20:55.24 | trevarthan | Would I just make the change and submit a patch then? |
| 20:55.45 | florian | france: Hello, do you want to comment on the GPE trademark here? |
| 20:56.08 | france | florian, no thank you..... |
| 20:56.53 | florian | france: I think the people who did GPE have a right to know what this is about. |
| 20:57.13 | france | florian, I think you and nil's have blown it way out of proportaion and already said things that are misleading and untrue...You will have to wait for the announcement clairifiying things. |
| 20:57.23 | france | jumping to conclusoins is bad... |
| 20:57.59 | florian | france: We still wait for the comment about Familiar leadership, so it might be better to wait. |
| 20:58.51 | florian | france: oh... I think you missed the most important point. We did not really start to act. |
| 21:00.34 | philippe | trevarthan: if you have a patch, we would always welcome it for a review. |
| 21:01.17 | mimecar | is there a method to maximixe dialogs on the screen ? |
| 21:01.55 | florian | france: btw. some people would really appreciate if you would stop the vandalism and censorship of the handhelds.org wiki |
| 21:02.03 | trevarthan | Thanks! |
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| 21:02.47 | philippe | mimecar: I believe dialogs are not supposed to be maximized |
| 21:03.02 | mimecar | on big screen , actual size looks ok |
| 21:03.25 | mimecar | but on small devices, if dialog become maximize, you would optimize the screen |
| 21:03.48 | mimecar | you won't move the dialog because you haven't enought free space to use two of them at the same time |
| 21:04.00 | philippe | mimecar: if the dialog is getting so full that might be useful yes. |
| 21:04.31 | mimecar | for example, on opie all the dialogs (file dialog..) use all the screen |
| 21:04.36 | philippe | I guess you can it tell the dialog window with some window setting hint. |
| 21:04.54 | mimecar | and maximize to the screen size by default on code ? |
| 21:06.57 | philippe | mimecar: that either means changing libgpewidget or have it in the program code. |
| 21:07.30 | mimecar | I think you can modify program code |
| 21:07.49 | philippe | you could use something like gtk_window_set_default_size to set it at some size that fits one of the smaller screens. |
| 21:07.50 | mimecar | if you use conditional compilation, you can add that feature for small devices |
| 21:07.58 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:08.54 | philippe | or gdk_window_maximize |
| 21:09.29 | philippe | mimecar: conditional might cause problems for building with OE. |
| 21:09.31 | mimecar | I have only used basic controllers with gtk |
| 21:09.52 | philippe | better would be to have some code detecting the display size |
| 21:09.54 | mimecar | I mean conditional compilation ON the program, not on the library |
| 21:10.16 | philippe | I did something like that in gpe-mini-browser. |
| 21:10.25 | mimecar | you do the same, with the conditional compilation you define it on compilation |
| 21:10.33 | mimecar | the other option use real time measure |
| 21:10.53 | philippe | mimecar: the conditional compilation will cause issues in OE (regardless if it is library or program) |
| 21:11.04 | mimecar | OK |
| 21:11.50 | philippe | maybe you could put a config option so the user can chose. |
| 21:12.07 | mimecar | that would be another option |
| 21:12.21 | philippe | anyway the dialog should scale to the content of what is inside. |
| 21:12.49 | mimecar | that's the traditional option on desktop |
| 21:13.06 | mimecar | I'm want use the same system as palm apps |
| 21:13.16 | philippe | we could put an option like that in gpe-conf, which libgpewidget would then use for all dialogs created by the gpe dialog functions |
| 21:13.40 | philippe | but I guess something like that should be discussed in detail. |
| 21:14.01 | mimecar | you can create the component and edit the atributes |
| 21:14.14 | mimecar | without changin lib functions |
| 21:15.01 | philippe | mimecar: I was going worst case there. Depending on how it can be handled. |
| 21:15.19 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:15.57 | philippe | I don't know if the gtk_dialog has such an attribute |
| 21:16.05 | mimecar | me neither |
| 21:16.54 | mimecar | time to go to bed |
| 21:17.04 | mimecar | night all |
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| 21:28.33 | florian | hi pigeon |
| 21:29.38 | *** topic/#gpe by florian -> The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/GpeProject | Development Manual (in progress): http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/documentation/devmanual/ | New mailinglist: http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list | little daughter is http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org | We will be present at LinuxTag - anyone who needs a ticket for free? |
| 21:39.09 | florian | philippe: I have a working gpe-bluetooth_svn.bb now |
| 21:39.19 | florian | another one for the release list :-) |
| 21:39.57 | XorA | florian: new bluetooth goodness? |
| 21:40.09 | florian | hrm.. i need to find out what happened to scap |
| 21:40.29 | XorA | florian: yeah its stuck still |
| 21:41.16 | XorA | florian: and i want to uplload gpe screenshots on neo :-) |
| 21:41.31 | florian | XorA: no, mostly fixes... the really bad news is that I still did not manage to take a look at the bluetooth API changes. |
| 21:41.37 | florian | XorA: ! |
| 21:42.56 | florian | XorA: I wonder what is wrong... if you use the cgi (tickle.cgi) with a browser it works. |
| 21:43.46 | florian | I'm that desperately low of time that i bought me a 100% linux free cellphone. |
| 21:45.00 | XorA | florian: im in a pocketPC mobile at moment |
| 21:45.14 | XorA | irc by gprs |
| 22:35.47 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 23:19.45 | florian | hi CoreDump|home |