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| 01:11.49 | florian | good night |
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| 10:40.43 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:40.57 | neal | morning florian |
| 10:41.07 | neal | I know that when you come on that it is almost time for lunch |
| 10:42.33 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 10:42.49 | florian_kc | ok, we are on topic... time to get breakfast :-) |
| 10:45.26 | pb__ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 11:10.16 | philippe | morning people |
| 11:12.23 | florian_kc | hi philippe |
| 11:14.15 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 11:16.33 | florian_kc | philippe: maybe invite robtaylor, mickeyl and me :-) |
| 11:20.35 | philippe | well robtaylor is sitting across me :-) |
| 11:21.18 | philippe | And I think we will get in touch with you and mickeyl at a certain stage. |
| 11:21.33 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 11:22.32 | philippe | at least I am insisting on that... |
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| 19:22.40 | _law_ | hi |
| 19:22.46 | _law_ | whats gpe-auto-bluetooth? |
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| 19:30.09 | logan | what is new at last version of gpe? |
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| 19:37.54 | florian_ | re |
| 19:39.12 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 19:39.49 | pb_ | hi mccarthy |
| 19:39.58 | florian | hey pb_ |
| 19:39.59 | mccarthy | hi pb_ |
| 19:40.01 | mccarthy | hi florian |
| 19:40.32 | mccarthy | I am thinking I might have to get one of those FIC phones when they are available. |
| 19:40.39 | mccarthy | I wonder if the FCC has approved it yet |
| 19:47.41 | mccarthy | pb_, you said something the other day about making a familiar-like distro (since familiar is dying, dead, killing itself, alive and well -- depending on who you ask) |
| 19:47.49 | mccarthy | pb_, how would it differ from angstrom? |
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| 20:26.52 | mimecar | hi |
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| 20:26.54 | florian | hi mimecar |
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| 20:50.17 | pb_ | mccarthy: in technical terms I'm not yet exactly certain; I haven't really looked at angstrom for a while. |
| 20:51.27 | pb_ | mccarthy: my main reservations about angstrom are (a) koen, and (b) its general apparent intention to be a cool distribution for developers to work on rather than actually producing anything useful |
| 20:51.53 | mimecar | beer? |
| 20:52.21 | florian | pb_: speaking about reservations... did you see that bug i cc'ed you? |
| 20:53.58 | pb_ | florian: the xtscal one? |
| 20:54.12 | mccarthy | pb_, if you put together something that works I would be stoked :) |
| 20:54.13 | florian | pb_: yes |
| 20:54.32 | mccarthy | and I promise not to commit any changes to svn (so you get stuck with none of my ugly code ;) |
| 20:54.39 | pb_ | florian: I saw that specific email but I didn't have time to look at the rest of the bug history |
| 20:54.45 | pb_ | so I wasn't really clear what it was about |
| 20:54.47 | pb_ | mccarthy: heh |
| 20:55.30 | mccarthy | (although I *have* been nagging neal about putting some audible alert into his alarm notification in gpe-calendar) |
| 20:55.50 | mccarthy | (so I guess I might make those changes eventually, if my nagging doesn't work) |
| 20:56.02 | pb_ | right :-) |
| 20:56.05 | neal | dude, very low priority for me |
| 20:56.10 | florian | that's a good idea... we need *releases* |
| 20:56.12 | neal | if someone writes the code I'll review it |
| 20:56.27 | mccarthy | see. I must increase nagging annoyance ;) |
| 20:56.40 | mccarthy | (or write it myself) |
| 20:56.45 | neal | paper dead line in 11 hours. |
| 20:56.50 | neal | so it won't happen today :-) |
| 20:56.54 | florian | :-) |
| 20:57.11 | mccarthy | I am in no hurry. I don't even have a working gpe on my ipaq anymore |
| 20:57.16 | neal | er, 14 hours |
| 20:57.18 | neal | I can add. |
| 20:57.20 | neal | anyways. |
| 20:57.24 | mccarthy | (so maybe I need to nag pb_ instead ;) |
| 20:58.11 | pb_ | :-} |
| 20:58.40 | florian | pb_ seems to be busy too, i guess i should hide then ;) |
| 20:59.04 | mccarthy | florian, :) |
| 20:59.18 | mccarthy | it looks like my sister is not going to buy me an a1200 from taiwan :( |
| 20:59.33 | mccarthy | I think she said they were $400US |
| 20:59.44 | mccarthy | (pretty damn steep if you ask me) |
| 21:00.24 | florian | iirc they were about 350 EUR in .ch so that's comparable |
| 21:00.45 | mccarthy | ok |
| 21:01.14 | florian | i just managed to boot a homebrew kernel on my a1200 |
| 21:01.14 | mccarthy | I just thought they would be cheaper there since I thought I saw about $300US on some importer-type websites |
| 21:01.51 | florian | hmm... hearing this i'm not that sure about EUR vs USD anymore |
| 21:02.14 | neal | you forget that in Germany there is 19% vat |
| 21:02.15 | mccarthy | 350Eur > $300, I think |
| 21:02.27 | mccarthy | by a decent amoutn even |
| 21:02.37 | neal | whereas in the US there is typically much lower tax |
| 21:02.50 | mccarthy | 350Eur \approx $500?! |
| 21:02.54 | florian | neal: how much is it there? |
| 21:03.08 | florian | ibot: change 350 EUR to USD |
| 21:03.32 | mccarthy | we don't need no stinking ibot, I was close! |
| 21:03.32 | florian | mccarthy: wait half a year and you might be right ;) |
| 21:04.04 | mccarthy | \me talks no politics. ever! |
| 21:04.15 | mccarthy | or whichever way that damn slash is supposed to go :) |
| 21:04.34 | florian | heh |
| 21:07.54 | florian | pb_: don't worry too much about that xtscal bug... but the report contains a solution and so it would be easy for you to fix. |
| 21:09.10 | florian | pb_: unluckily the situation at handhelds.org makes it impossible for me to help. |
| 21:11.50 | pb_ | florian: righto |
| 21:12.09 | florian | pb_: of course we could just make xtscal a part of gpe but i'm not sure if this is the best solution |
| 21:12.31 | pb_ | no, I don't think that's an especially good solution. |
| 21:12.48 | pb_ | assuming my handhelds.org account still works, I can easily apply the patch and make a new release |
| 21:13.00 | florian | pb_: that would be nice |
| 21:13.04 | florian | hrm |
| 21:13.08 | pb_ | ok, I'll make that my mission |
| 21:13.22 | florian | i can't even update my checked out trees anymore :-( |
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| 21:13.43 | neal | you can't use anonymous cvs? |
| 21:13.45 | pb_ | florian: you can convert existing cvs trees to anoncvs with a bit of sed scripting |
| 21:14.02 | florian | right, that might be an option |
| 21:14.17 | florian | ~lart france |
| 21:14.46 | neal | what did you expect him to do? |
| 21:14.46 | pb_ | for i in find . -name Root; do sed 's/:ext:florian@./:pserver:anoncvs@/' <$i >$i.new; mv $i.new $i; done |
| 21:14.51 | pb_ | or something along those approximate lines |
| 21:15.52 | pb_ | bbiab, dinner time approaches |
| 21:15.59 | florian | neal: what did i do wrong? |
| 21:16.59 | neal | florian: You let the project. |
| 21:17.02 | neal | s/let/left/ |
| 21:17.26 | neal | leaving means leaving which includes cancelling accounts |
| 21:17.50 | florian | neal: i'm locked out even if i'm still member of the apps and kernel project. |
| 21:19.07 | florian | neal: france tried to decide about gpe even without beeing member at all... not speaking about contributing. |
| 21:21.02 | florian | Just apart the fact that he was the one who suggested that it would be a good idea for active projects to search for a better place some time ago - now we did and this seems to be wrong too. |
| 21:21.29 | florian | Not speaking of Familiar and related problems... |
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| 21:27.21 | florian | neal: I uploaded a new libmimedir deb for maemo... it includes jpetersen's fix to support Google calendar files. |
| 21:29.18 | neal | you mean support for WKST? |
| 21:29.24 | mccarthy | florian, do libmimedir changes ever make it upstream? it seems that I always need to find your secret hiding place to get the latest patched mimedir ;) |
| 21:29.37 | florian | neal: yep |
| 21:30.17 | mccarthy | will this allow gpe to opensynce nicely with google-calendar now? |
| 21:30.26 | mccarthy | oops. no "e" |
| 21:31.58 | florian | mccarthy: i hope so... its maintainer seems to be quite unresponsive sometimes. i got answers about most of the patches i submitted myself but not everyone seems to be that lucky. |
| 21:32.13 | neal | I have not gotten on answer |
| 21:32.44 | florian | iirc jpetersen had the same problem some time ago |
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| 21:41.00 | pb_ | yah, I never heard anything from the mimedir guy when I used to write to him |
| 21:41.35 | pb_ | not that I blame him for that: I know I ignore quite a few of the people who write to me. |
| 21:42.16 | florian | pb_: even people submitting patches? |
| 21:42.34 | pb_ | for really old stuff, yeah, sometimes. |
| 21:42.53 | pb_ | I get a few people sending me patches for net-tools and I don't really have the strength to deal with them anymore. |
| 21:43.26 | mccarthy | pb_, florian has anyone asked him if he would rather let control of mimedir fall to gpe? (if he considers it really old stuff) |
| 21:44.05 | mccarthy | does anyone else use it anymore? |
| 21:44.14 | mccarthy | does he still develop it? |
| 21:44.25 | pb_ | I think he does still develop it, yeah |
| 21:44.56 | mimecar | what program ? |
| 21:45.11 | mccarthy | libmimedir |
| 21:45.29 | mccarthy | pb_, ok. then he should accept patches from folks |
| 21:45.43 | pb_ | mimecar: I suppose you would be the ideal candidate to take it over. |
| 21:45.45 | mccarthy | or florian should fork it and name it something else |
| 21:45.54 | mccarthy | like |
| 21:45.57 | mccarthy | libmimecar ;) |
| 21:45.59 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:49.05 | florian | pb_: not actively... the last years changes are translation updates and patches from gpe people. |
| 21:49.10 | pb_ | ah |
| 21:49.10 | florian | *gg* |
| 21:49.13 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:50.18 | florian | oberger, fng_sma and i managed to get changes in... |
| 22:12.51 | mccarthy | gnight |
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| 22:31.21 | pb_ | night night |
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| 23:28.42 | mmp | good night:) |