| 00:38.37 | florian_kc | philippe: how much did i break? |
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| 09:30.13 | bencer | philippe: the touch worked :) |
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| 12:35.41 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 12:38.57 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
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| 14:02.14 | _law_ | hi |
| 14:02.30 | _law_ | is there any gnome-phone-manager like tool for gpe? |
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| 14:35.07 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
| 14:35.13 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
| 14:35.20 | florian_kc | _law_: not that i'm aware of |
| 14:35.37 | mccarthy | hi florian_kc |
| 14:35.47 | mccarthy | botmail read is not working for some reason ... |
| 14:36.40 | _law_ | florian_kc, a dbus interface for minilite would be nice. so i could control the display brightness via zaurus hw-keys |
| 14:43.52 | mccarthy | ibot, botmail read |
| 14:44.57 | _law_ | whats the bluetooth script handling? in gpe-bluetooth? |
| 14:46.26 | florian_kc | mccarthy: i managed to build an image but didn't try it so far |
| 14:46.51 | florian_kc | _law_: i'd prefer to have a common backend and all apps using dbus |
| 14:47.07 | mccarthy | florian_kc, ibot finally spoke up. I am trying a gpe image now... koen tells me that the fb won't work yet though |
| 14:47.34 | _law_ | florian_kc, like gnome-power-manager? |
| 14:48.13 | florian_kc | mccarthy: right |
| 14:48.28 | florian_kc | _law_: a little bit |
| 14:48.48 | _law_ | florian_kc, but without hal |
| 14:50.46 | florian_kc | _law_: i'm not 100% sure about this, robtaylor managed to make it useful for mobile devices to some extent |
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| 15:04.44 | _law_ | bbl |
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| 17:16.08 | kala | could gpe upgrade affect the battery operations? the ipaq h3800 only works when on AC power. GPE says the battery is ok, but when I remove the AC power, after 2 seconds the ipaq is dead |
| 17:20.35 | florian_kc | hi kala |
| 17:20.51 | florian_kc | kala: that's most likely a battery calibration problem |
| 17:21.09 | florian_kc | kala: kill ipaq-sleep and check if the device stays on for a longer time. |
| 17:21.34 | florian_kc | if this helps you need to calibrate the battery |
| 17:22.14 | kala | hu. what this calibration thing? charging-decharging cycle? |
| 17:23.23 | florian_kc | kala: mostly: kill ipaq-sleep and wait till the device runs out of battery (it needs to turn off) |
| 17:23.29 | kala | ok |
| 17:23.49 | kala | I could try that. If I only could reconnect the battrey and assemble the ipaq again :P |
| 17:24.25 | florian_kc | then connect ac and let it charge till the battery is full... system info should show that the battery "is learning" |
| 17:25.40 | kala | oh, got that connector. I was trying to apply it backwards. |
| 17:26.32 | florian_kc | its important that you charge without any break |
| 17:26.35 | florian_kc | btw |
| 17:30.03 | kala | the battery monitor says that its "fully charged", but system information gives me "status: charging, 0%" |
| 17:30.55 | florian_kc | aha |
| 17:31.56 | kala | is there more information on /proc/somewhere? |
| 17:32.32 | florian_kc | yes... iirc in proc/hal/battery |
| 17:32.43 | kala | ps | grep sleep doesn't report any ipaq-sleep processes |
| 17:34.26 | kala | ok, battery file: "chmistry: li-polymer, status: 0x08 (charging), voltage 0x035b (4194 mV), percentage: 0x00 (0%) and life (min): 65535 |
| 17:34.39 | kala | so, at least its getting some voltage information from battery |
| 17:35.12 | kala | and the voltage is changing. now its 4204 mV |
| 17:38.00 | kala | whoa. /proc/asic/battery has even more information |
| 17:39.15 | florian_kc | right, that should show the learning state as well |
| 17:39.16 | kala | basically, it seems linux thinks the battery is empy |
| 17:39.25 | kala | "is learning?: no" |
| 17:39.50 | kala | "Accumulated current: -8081 mAh" |
| 17:41.56 | florian_kc | that all looks like the calibration is really broken |
| 17:44.40 | kala | this is kernel functionality, right? I'm running 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37, Aug 14, 2006 version. It would seem that it's not because of upgraded gpe software |
| 17:45.57 | florian_kc | kala: i don't think so, i guess thats done my the battery controller |
| 17:46.21 | florian_kc | if it was a kernel function we had a cleverer way to do this |
| 17:47.15 | kala | yep. proc/asic/ds2760 shows even more horrible numbers |
| 17:48.58 | kala | ok. what next? is there some howto to fix this? replace battery? use ipaq as a addon LCD ? ;P |
| 17:49.50 | kala | the ipaq is h3870 |
| 17:50.53 | florian_kc | just calibrate the battery |
| 17:51.54 | florian_kc | if there is no ipaq-sleep (assuming gpe is running there should be one) just wait till it powers off - calibration should start if you connect ac then |
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| 18:05.52 | kala | oh. thereis. buts its name was ipaq-s |
| 18:07.18 | kala | yep. much better. now the ipaq doesn't shutdown imeediately and I could probably do the learning thing |
| 18:07.21 | kala | thanks :) |
| 18:07.25 | florian_kc | yw |
| 19:03.45 | mccarthy | neal, you reworked the autoconf stuff on gpe svn lately? |
| 19:03.56 | mccarthy | I am getting errors trying to build libgpewidget: |
| 19:04.05 | mccarthy | doc/Makefile.am:44: ENABLE_GTK_DOC does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 19:04.17 | mccarthy | doc/gtk-doc.make:7: GTK_DOC_USE_LIBTOOL does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 19:05.11 | neal | which package? |
| 19:05.58 | mccarthy | libgpewidget |
| 19:06.13 | mccarthy | (I know nothing of autotools or I would fix it myself) |
| 19:06.54 | neal | I only fixed the autogen.sh script |
| 19:07.04 | neal | I didn't touch anything else |
| 19:07.07 | mccarthy | ok |
| 19:07.19 | mccarthy | those damn gtk-doc things have been killing me for a year or so |
| 19:07.43 | mccarthy | I typically get some GTK_DOC(1.2) unrecognized or similiar in the config script |
| 19:07.50 | neal | before that, florian touched it in august |
| 19:07.58 | mccarthy | ok |
| 19:08.07 | mccarthy | it has worked for me recently, so I do not get it |
| 19:11.45 | mccarthy | ah here it is again... that damn: |
| 19:11.54 | mccarthy | GTK_DOC_CHECK(1.2) syntax error |
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| 19:26.07 | mccarthy | ok. For the record. You need gtk-doc-tools AND automake1.7 in order to make that error go away |
| 19:26.22 | mccarthy | thanks for putting up with me pesting you neal |
| 19:26.43 | mccarthy | neal, BTW, any interest in me moving the "make noise" code from gpe-announce over to gpe-calendar? |
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| 19:34.09 | neal | I have no idea what that is. |
| 19:34.46 | florian_ | re |
| 19:35.00 | neal | re florian |
| 19:35.31 | florian | hi neal |
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| 20:08.56 | mccarthy | neal, we spoke last week or so about the fact that gpe-announce would make an audible alarm noise (using libsoundgen) |
| 20:09.15 | mccarthy | would we want the alarm notification code in gpe-calendar to do similar? |
| 20:11.45 | neal | sure. |
| 20:11.49 | neal | what's it look like? |
| 20:12.27 | neal | it needs to be portable |
| 20:13.29 | neal | and if it is more than 20 lines, it should be in a library |
| 20:13.48 | mccarthy | well my guess is that it is reasonably portable (provided that we do not change volume) but libsoundgen might not be very portable |
| 20:14.29 | mccarthy | neal, you know that my coding is for crap, but I can take a look at it. there is just no guarantee that I will even know what portable looks like :) |
| 20:14.35 | mccarthy | I mostly copied it from something nils wrote in the first place |
| 20:15.25 | mccarthy | if I make it a library what should the API look like? |
| 20:16.43 | neal | what does it do? |
| 20:16.48 | neal | i.e., how does it play a sound? |
| 20:16.57 | neal | that's what it should look like. |
| 20:17.13 | neal | I want to minimize code in #ifdefs |
| 20:17.35 | neal | at best, I'm willing got allow files to be conditionally compiled in |
| 20:17.50 | neal | based on an autoconf switch |
| 20:17.57 | neal | s/best/most/ |
| 20:18.22 | neal | but if the API is at all complicated it should be in a library |
| 20:20.18 | mccarthy | maybe I will just try to use libsoundgen directly ... |
| 20:21.42 | neal | sure, that's okay |
| 20:21.49 | neal | my question was: how much code is that |
| 20:25.23 | mccarthy | hmm |
| 20:26.06 | mccarthy | gpe-announce's callbacks is about 500 lines of code, but it has a number of "button_clicked" related functions |
| 20:27.05 | mccarthy | I think between moving some of the stuff to libsoundgen (or a new library, libannounce or some such) then the code could be down to a few lines |
| 20:28.51 | mccarthy | (seemingly unrelated, but not does libhandoff tell the window to jump to the foreground when it runs a second instance of gpe-calendar?) |
| 20:30.42 | neal | no. |
| 20:30.46 | neal | the caller can do that |
| 20:30.57 | neal | but libhandoff doesn't |
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| 21:26.55 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 21:27.01 | pb_ | hi florian |
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| 22:07.14 | Thaiger | I'm running GPE on a Zaurus SL-C1000, but I can't seem to get most (any?) settings to save, for example USB settings or even creating new users from the user manager, any ideas? Normally I'd assume it was a permissions issue, but I tried it as root and it still wouldn't work |
| 22:10.18 | florian | Thaiger: that's strange indeed... which image do you have on your device? |
| 22:13.33 | Thaiger | florian: Um... not sure, I got it from OZ |
| 22:13.52 | Thaiger | I noticed that some of the config applets had .conf files in /etc, but I couldn't find one for the USB config |
| 22:40.57 | florian | Thaiger: right... but if even adding users doesn't work something is really wrong. |
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| 22:44.26 | Thaiger | florian: Any ideas? I just installed the yesterday or the day before |
| 22:45.32 | florian | Thaiger: which are the permissions of /usr/bin/gpe-conf ? |
| 22:48.14 | Thaiger | looks like 755 with suid |
| 22:48.36 | Thaiger | I just hit the checkbox that said let users configure everything and still no luck |
| 22:50.36 | Thaiger | Hm.. Running from the terminal tells me that g_file_storage module isn't there, so that explains USB |
| 22:51.18 | Thaiger | Adding a new user doesn't generate and error, but when I reopen user admin, the user isn't there |
| 22:51.22 | Thaiger | and its not in /etc/passwd |
| 23:28.51 | florian | Thaiger: that would be correct |
| 23:30.07 | florian | not shipping g_file_storage kernel module might be a bug in OZ, i think it should be there in the default images |
| 23:35.44 | florian | Motorola did a great job to keep GPE away from the A1200 :-/ |
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