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| 00:31.51 | florian | good night |
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| 12:09.42 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 13:48.43 | vanguard | Hello all. Can somebody notice a little bug to bugzilla for me ? I cannot get a registry there. |
| 13:49.41 | vanguard | This is my bug: gpe-appmgr caanot be installed into the taskbar. This behaviour is only, when running in German environment. |
| 13:49.56 | vanguard | In English environment everything works. |
| 13:50.40 | vanguard | Second bug (is it a real bug ??): It is not possible to change the colour of the fonts. |
| 13:51.29 | florian_kc | hi vanguard |
| 13:51.40 | vanguard | You can change, but the changes will not affect and the change will not be stored. This is the same when beeing a user or root. |
| 13:51.44 | vanguard | Hi florian_kc |
| 13:52.35 | florian_kc | vanguard: i guess i just fixed bugzilla, so it is quite likely to work. |
| 13:53.17 | vanguard | florian_kc: O.k., I will try again. If it stll fails till tomorrow, I will report here. |
| 13:53.30 | florian_kc | vanguard: that font colour problem indicates you are maybe using matchbox-desktop (default) instead of gpe-appmgr, right? |
| 13:53.44 | florian_kc | vanguard: that would be great |
| 13:54.14 | vanguard | Hmm, dunno exactly, I use pure GPE-rootfs.tar.gz |
| 13:54.41 | vanguard | It is the one from openzaurus,org, not the hentges-one. |
| 13:55.11 | florian_kc | that should use matchbos-desktop |
| 13:55.15 | florian_kc | eh matchbox |
| 13:55.40 | vanguard | You mean, this is normal ? |
| 13:56.29 | florian_kc | i think so, iirc more modern versions do not allow this anymore but i'm not sure |
| 13:56.49 | vanguard | O.k,, it is nor big problem. |
| 13:57.47 | vanguard | What about the other thing ? The button "App-Launcher" ? |
| 13:58.15 | vanguard | I suppose, this is ppe-appmgr, isn it ? |
| 13:58.28 | vanguard | gpe-appmgr |
| 13:59.28 | vanguard | It is not possible to get it into the taskbar. But this is only, when running German environment. In English it is o.k. |
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| 14:00.45 | vanguard | Anyway, I will report it to bugzilöla, as soon I will get an account in there. |
| 14:01.59 | vanguard | Some other question: Ethereal is missing an icon to start it, It can only be started out of a shell. Must I create an icon by myself ? And if so, how do I have to do it ? |
| 14:02.51 | florian_kc | ah i think i know what you mean - thats the menu applet. that should be fixed upstream but maybe OZ ships an old version. |
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| 14:03.14 | vanguard | O.k., then I will wait for a newer version. |
| 14:03.26 | florian_kc | (if it ships the latest version that would be a bug for the o-hand bugzilla) |
| 14:05.25 | vanguard | By the way: I used OPIE now for a long time, cause it is faster, but now I changed to GPE. Seems to me better for networking analysis, although I miss "wellenreiter". |
| 14:06.29 | florian_kc | yep, wellenreiter is pretty nice... |
| 14:07.09 | florian_kc | about the icon: take a look at /usr/share/applications - i guess you will understand the .desktop files pretty fast. |
| 14:07.38 | vanguard | Yes, I will. |
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| 14:11.06 | vanguard | I am looking: So easy ! :) |
| 14:14.05 | florian_kc | brb, rebooting |
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| 14:40.17 | vanguard | re florian_kc |
| 14:40.27 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:40.45 | vanguard | florian_kc: It works. Ethereal now has an icon. |
| 14:41.35 | vanguard | What about improved icons ? I saw some icons with no German translation. Can I help and translate them ? |
| 14:42.11 | vanguard | Or was this already be done in the past ? |
| 14:42.28 | florian_kc | brb, telco |
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| 16:54.26 | pb_ | hi mccarthy |
| 16:54.41 | mccarthy | hi pb_ |
| 16:54.58 | mccarthy | still struggling with my pim needs :( |
| 16:55.04 | pb_ | heh, oh dear |
| 16:55.21 | pb_ | florian_kc: if I wanted to try out the latest gpe on one of my machines, where could I find a flash image? |
| 16:55.36 | pb_ | ideally hx4700, h5400 or c750 |
| 16:55.36 | mccarthy | pb_, what machines do you have these days? |
| 16:55.42 | mccarthy | nevermind :) |
| 16:55.56 | pb_ | mccarthy: those plus h3900, h3600 and sl5500 I think |
| 16:56.04 | mccarthy | pb_, wow |
| 16:56.09 | pb_ | the latter two are pretty useless, though, and I think I lost the h3900 |
| 16:56.11 | mccarthy | I just have my h5550 |
| 16:56.41 | mccarthy | since OE no longer supports familiar (and vice versa) I am having trouble getting the lates gpe on these |
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| 16:59.11 | pb_ | yeah, that is a bit sad |
| 16:59.20 | pb_ | I'm not really sure what the state of the art is in terms of distributions |
| 16:59.28 | pb_ | ibot, seen reenoo? |
| 16:59.42 | ibot | reenoo <n=r@p5489F081.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 3d 16h 50m 10s ago, saying: ''night all'. |
| 16:59.42 | mccarthy | I would really like to get a pda/phone but it seems that the only option that might work better than my h5550 is palm-based (yuck!) |
| 16:59.59 | pb_ | ugh indeed |
| 17:01.26 | mccarthy | no gpe-related phones, right? |
| 17:08.32 | pH5 | mccarthy: I just got gomunicator running on a htc magician |
| 17:08.55 | pH5 | I wouldn't say that it works better than anything yet, though |
| 17:10.22 | mccarthy | pH5, cool |
| 17:15.28 | florian_kc | pb_: hrm... the situation around familiar hasn't improved imho. i guess an Angstrom image for the hx4700 would be a good choice. |
| 17:16.18 | florian_kc | pb_: the h5xxx Angstrom images might be a little bit limited |
| 17:17.28 | mccarthy | florian_kc, so far no X or wifi on the test images (limited, indeed :) |
| 17:17.42 | florian_kc | oh well... |
| 17:18.23 | florian_kc | time to work on improving gpe on various devices |
| 17:19.13 | mccarthy | EZX phones? |
| 17:19.25 | florian_kc | mccarthy: Motorola A780 and A1200 e.g. |
| 17:19.56 | florian_kc | now that i have a pile of nice devices here i don't have enough time to make them useful :-/ |
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| 17:34.46 | bedboi | hi there |
| 17:36.04 | florian_kc | hey bedboi |
| 17:36.17 | bedboi | hi there florian_kc |
| 17:36.28 | bedboi | i didn't know that n800 was about to be shipped |
| 17:37.00 | florian_kc | bedboi: only a few people knew till today :-) |
| 17:38.05 | bedboi | hope to be one of the people in the device development program |
| 17:39.33 | florian_kc | that would be good... the n800 is quite powerful, so gpe should be _really_ fast on it. |
| 17:40.01 | bedboi | yep, i need that |
| 17:40.15 | bedboi | can't wait to know if i'm one of the lucky guys |
| 17:42.23 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 17:42.26 | pb_ | hi bedboi |
| 17:42.35 | pb_ | florian_kc: mm, right |
| 17:43.17 | pb_ | florian_kc: it sounds like this situation is rather sad. |
| 17:43.47 | florian_kc | actually i'm not sure which cpu it has, but i guess its an OMAP2420 |
| 17:47.42 | bedboi | pb_: hi there... long time no see |
| 17:48.20 | florian_kc | pb_: yes indeed... its quite complicated with short consumer product lifetimes and only a few developers. |
| 17:48.31 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:49.39 | florian_kc | pb_: i have some reason to believe that i have a little bit time to work on this in near future... maybe i manage to get one or two more up to date devices supported so that they are useful for average users. |
| 17:49.56 | pb_ | that would be neat |
| 17:50.27 | pb_ | it's kind of tempting to start a new familiar-like distro for the ipaq and similar devices, based around gpe, but I'm not sure I really have the time for that. |
| 17:50.58 | florian_kc | i have a motorola a1200 and nokia n800 waiting here... :-) |
| 17:52.02 | florian_kc | pb_: i thought about that several times... but i really don't have enough time. |
| 17:52.42 | pb_ | maybe I'll have a go and see how I get on. |
| 17:53.20 | pb_ | bbiab |
| 17:53.43 | florian_kc | pb_: I played around with OpenZaurus some time ago... except of the name it would be a good base to start with. |
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| 18:06.44 | florian_kc | hi mreimer |
| 18:06.57 | mreimer | hi florian_kc. How are you? |
| 18:07.42 | florian_kc | mreimer: pretty fine - less work that the weeks before and a new office :-) |
| 18:08.03 | mreimer | florian_kc: sounds good! does that mean you have time to do more of the things you really want to? |
| 18:08.42 | florian_kc | mreimer: a little bit more time at least... |
| 18:09.09 | mreimer | thanks for doing that |
| 18:11.58 | florian_kc | that was on top of the todo... |
| 18:12.34 | pb_ | florian_kc: right, sounds good |
| 18:12.45 | pb_ | hi mreimer |
| 18:12.55 | mreimer | hi pb_. how's it going? |
| 18:13.33 | pb_ | good, thanks |
| 18:13.34 | pb_ | how are you? |
| 18:13.48 | mreimer | pb_: better than I deserve :-) |
| 18:14.03 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:17.36 | mccarthy | my sister is in Taiwan for the next few days. any suggestions on a good toy I should ask her to pick up for me? ;) |
| 18:18.49 | pb_ | later all |
| 18:18.53 | mreimer | bye pb_ |
| 18:20.59 | florian_kc | an a1200? :-) |
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| 18:24.54 | mccarthy | florian_kc, is it a nice piece of hardware? |
| 18:25.52 | florian_kc | mccarthy: yes, its a cellphone... quite small and not too expensive but runs linux. but the original software is a pain. |
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| 18:38.40 | florian_kc | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ |
| 18:38.57 | florian_kc | gpe-calendar running on a N800 |
| 18:39.10 | mreimer | cool! |
| 18:40.36 | florian_kc | i'm not sure if i really like the layout of the website |
| 18:41.46 | mccarthy | florian_kc, how much rom/ram is there in the a1200? |
| 18:52.26 | florian_kc | mccarthy: i don't know offhand, 48/32 at least but i'm not sure. |
| 18:53.28 | florian_kc | i'll build a kernel and take a look tomorrow |
| 18:55.46 | bedboi | is there a gpe-expenses build for n770? |
| 18:55.55 | mccarthy | florian_kc, cool. thanks |
| 18:58.35 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 21:02.18 | bencer | hi all |
| 21:18.09 | rob_w | where do kdrive people hang out ? |
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| 21:48.05 | neal | damn "Nokia will not integrate and make OS2007 available for 770" |
| 21:48.22 | neal | 18-months to end of product |
| 22:05.37 | bencer | it seems you need gtk-webcore to build gpe-mini-browser. last release on sf is from 2004, is there any more recent version ? |
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| 22:09.50 | florian_ | re |
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| 22:17.01 | bencer | florian: i wrote you some time ago a mail about gpe-mini-browser for maemo, i'm trying to build it right now, but gtk-webcore doesn't build on the scratchbox environment. did you have any issue when you built it ? |
| 22:17.43 | florian | bencer: the last time i tried was a long time ago.. are you using latest svn sources? |
| 22:18.02 | bencer | yes |
| 22:18.13 | florian | bencer: philippe might be up to date about what to do |
| 22:18.41 | bencer | it needs osb-nrcit |
| 22:18.54 | bencer | but the last version from the sf site is from 2004, pretty old ... |
| 22:19.43 | florian | shouldn't that be in svn as well? |
| 22:20.05 | bencer | yes, but it isn't ... :? |
| 22:21.15 | florian | ok, sounds liek we need philippe to help - if he isn't here it would be wort a post to the gpe mailinglist. |
| 22:21.42 | bencer | ok, thanks for your help florian |
| 22:22.04 | florian | bencer: yw |
| 22:22.09 | bencer | by the way, i've just installed gpe in mistral, and works fine |
| 22:22.27 | bencer | the only problem is the version depend in lib-hildon |
| 22:22.59 | bencer | but dpkg --force-version -i ... work arround it |
| 22:23.05 | florian | i built packages for bora some days ago... it seems to work there as well. |
| 22:23.10 | mccarthy | florian, have you built a working linux w/X system for a1200? or were you just going to try to? |
| 22:23.42 | florian | mccarthy: not yet, but i started a build with oe and yes... its the goal to get exactly this. |
| 22:25.02 | bencer | and an other thing about gpe, it should be an easier way to subscribe to the gpe mailing list. i couldn't find a link to a subscribe form and i had to figure out the request address |
| 22:25.20 | bencer | (in the website) |
| 22:25.34 | florian | bencer: ok, let me take a look.. |
| 22:26.01 | florian | bencer: hmm.. http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/contact.phtml has the information |
| 22:26.03 | mccarthy | florian, cool. keep me posted. it looks interesting. |
| 22:26.18 | bencer | maybe just a like to the mailman interface would be ok |
| 22:26.44 | florian | mccarthy: ok, sure |
| 22:26.53 | florian | bencer: "To subscribe to the list go to http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list and follow the instructions." |
| 22:26.56 | bencer | florian: ok it's there, np. |
| 22:27.16 | bencer | i was looking for it the the linuxtogo.org site |
| 22:27.52 | florian | ah right, maybe we should provide a short summary of the projects there |
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| 23:51.01 | bencer | hehe, i took me a while, but finally i've mini-browser running on maemo |
| 23:51.28 | florian | cool! |
| 23:51.32 | bencer | do you know if anyone is packing the webcore libs ? |
| 23:51.42 | bencer | packaging |
| 23:51.54 | florian | no idea |
| 23:52.27 | bencer | ok, tomorrow i'll take a look on it |
| 23:52.34 | bencer | time to sleep now |
| 23:52.40 | bencer | night |
| 23:53.57 | florian | bencer: gn |