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| 08:09.08 | florian_kc | morning |
| 08:30.27 | jurop88 | hi Florian |
| 08:31.44 | florian_kc | hi jurop88 |
| 08:32.42 | jurop88 | I noticed on planet.maemo.org an entry about gpe, are there news about it? Or it's only something that appear on regular basis? |
| 08:33.11 | jurop88 | I'll have another period of holidays in short, and perhaps I'll be able to dedicate some time to it |
| 08:34.54 | florian_kc | jurop88: which one did you read? the one about user interfaces? |
| 08:36.34 | jurop88 | simply goto planet.maemo.org, currently first news |
| 08:37.56 | florian_kc | jurop88: ah ok, some update in the catalog... |
| 08:38.19 | jurop88 | so anything really new? |
| 08:39.05 | jurop88 | I think that GPE needs a better integration between the components of the suite to be a real PIM management, what do you think? |
| 08:39.11 | florian_kc | jurop88: not that much, i'm quite busy with other things at the moment... but i'm going to continue working on some nice things soon |
| 08:40.36 | florian_kc | well... it can handle most pim stuff already but some more integration would be really useful indeed. |
| 08:41.25 | jurop88 | I don't know where GPe is at the present, for example it does show todos with a due date into calendar? |
| 08:41.32 | jurop88 | and similar stuff... |
| 08:44.17 | florian_kc | no, but e.g. todos in the time tracker |
| 08:49.15 | jurop88 | those was consideration due to the fact that I am a proud owner of the 770, and it really needs such a PIM to become a full replacement for a laptop... |
| 08:49.33 | jurop88 | now that unison is available for 770, too, i resolved all my syncing problems |
| 08:49.44 | jurop88 | and I was planning to use it that way |
| 08:49.58 | jurop88 | I'll be back on it when I find some spare time ;) |
| 08:50.10 | jurop88 | it's the only drawback of free software! |
| 08:50.14 | jurop88 | thx & bye |
| 08:55.00 | florian_kc | jurop88: not for me :-) |
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| 09:19.20 | florian_kc | hi law__ |
| 09:19.30 | law__ | hi florian_kc |
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| 10:32.26 | XorA|gprs | been testing nm in the wild |
| 10:35.59 | florian_kc | hi XorA|gone |
| 10:36.06 | florian_kc | oope, the other one :-) |
| 10:37.54 | XorA|gprs | hey florian_kc |
| 10:39.07 | XorA|gprs | only issue i have with nm in the wild is it take ages to draw menu |
| 10:42.08 | florian_kc | strange |
| 10:42.54 | XorA|gprs | in fact the applet seems to kill all keyboard input when running long enough, really wierd |
| 10:43.07 | florian_kc | indeed |
| 10:44.35 | XorA|gprs | its workng for easy roaming though |
| 10:45.01 | florian_kc | that's really cool |
| 10:45.29 | XorA|gprs | actually i remember liam saying it has problems across suspend on his fedira laptop |
| 10:45.38 | XorA|gprs | maybe its same thing |
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| 11:01.36 | XorA|gprs | florian_kç |
| 11:02.27 | XorA|gprs | florian_kc: just spoke to guy from simtec who raved about gpe vs qtopia btw |
| 11:03.19 | florian_kc | XorA|gone: oh, who? |
| 11:03.44 | XorA|gprs | florian_kc: daniel silverstone |
| 11:04.14 | florian_kc | ah |
| 11:04.35 | XorA|gprs | a known face? |
| 11:04.55 | XorA|gprs | I know him through long and complex non linux means |
| 11:05.23 | florian_kc | not directly, but some other |
| 11:08.34 | XorA|gprs | very quiet round here these days |
| 11:09.22 | florian_kc | yeah, most people a re really busy with other stuff.. i just i'll be back to gepe next week |
| 11:09.27 | florian_kc | eh gpe |
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| 11:44.59 | XorA|gprs | hmmm, there is cetainly the case for a gpe-mplayer on pxa27x cpu |
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| 11:46.45 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 12:54.59 | wallabee-aw | thinking of installing gpe instead of opie but is gpe better? |
| 12:56.32 | florian_kc | wallabee-aw: sure ;-) it depends on the device and what you intend to do with it. |
| 12:59.06 | wallabee-aw | i have a qtek 9000 ant want to use it for multimedia, irc, vnc, kismet |
| 13:00.56 | florian_kc | ah, cool... i have one of these too but not really time to improve gpe support for it :-/ |
| 13:01.48 | wallabee-aw | but wireless and bluetooth is also working with gpe? |
| 13:02.23 | florian_kc | yes... these don't really depend on the ui software |
| 13:05.33 | wallabee-aw | now i have opie installed but i dont really like it |
| 13:08.02 | wallabee-aw | is it possible to install teamspeak or skype on the pda? |
| 13:09.22 | florian_kc | no, there are no open source implementations of these... Tapioca (GoogleTalk) might be interesting to try. |
| 13:22.09 | XorA | mor ning |
| 13:22.29 | florian_kc | hi XorA |
| 13:35.40 | law__ | btw. i have added config-file-support into mb-applet-cards |
| 13:36.25 | XorA | law__: wicked |
| 13:36.35 | law__ | now the pccardctl / cardctl , sudo / gpe-sudo problem isnt here. |
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| 13:38.34 | wallabee-aw | installed gpe but the sound is not working |
| 13:39.28 | law__ | there is only one problem gpe-su needs " and this doesnt work with sudo :-( |
| 13:39.50 | law__ | sudo mount /media/card | gpe-su -c "mount /media/card" |
| 13:42.07 | wallabee-aw | and how can i rotate the screen? |
| 13:42.30 | law__ | wallabee-aw, xrand |
| 13:42.45 | XorA | rotate applet for taskbar |
| 13:42.45 | law__ | s/xrand/xrandr |
| 13:43.04 | wallabee-aw | ah ok thanx |
| 13:45.05 | law__ | ok sudo sh -c "COMMAND" should work |
| 13:51.28 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 13:52.28 | wallabee-aw | and how can i get it in taskbar? |
| 13:52.48 | wallabee-aw | sry found it |
| 13:53.22 | law__ | hi CoreDump|home |
| 13:53.32 | wallabee-aw | hi |
| 13:53.50 | wallabee-aw | and one last question can i get the sound working? |
| 13:57.41 | law__ | wallabee-aw, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalSound |
| 13:57.50 | law__ | i hope this is your device |
| 13:58.26 | law__ | wallabee-aw, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal you know this site ? |
| 13:59.14 | wallabee-aw | yep this is my device didnt know the site |
| 14:00.06 | law__ | so it looks like the sound works |
| 14:01.21 | florian_kc | maybe sound support is missing in the latest image |
| 14:01.51 | florian_kc | i remember it took some time to make it work with the new kernel |
| 14:01.55 | XorA | is it based on 4700 kernel? |
| 14:02.24 | law__ | i have to go now my girlfriend will arrive in a few minutes...... |
| 14:02.25 | florian_kc | i guess so, the devixes share quite some pieces |
| 14:02.32 | wallabee-aw | i have a qtek 9000 and now it isnt working i think that means i have to install the driver |
| 14:02.41 | florian_kc | law__: cu |
| 14:02.47 | wallabee-aw | bye |
| 14:03.17 | XorA | got a feeling the sound was only fixed in last couple of days |
| 14:03.26 | XorA | there was some chatter on #angstrom |
| 14:03.58 | law__ | florian_kc, cu i?ll work on mb-applet-cards again on sunday evening... (i? ll visit budapest in the next few days :-)) |
| 14:05.55 | florian_kc | law__: oh nice |
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| 15:01.34 | bedboi | anyone knows a simple way to generate keypress events from commandline? |
| 15:05.21 | florian_kc | hmm... you could use uinput or something like this |
| 15:05.28 | florian_kc | but that's not really easy |
| 15:10.45 | florian_kc | libfakekey does that for x |
| 15:14.20 | bedboi | florian_kc: there's no commandline tool ? |
| 15:14.29 | bedboi | something like ./sendevent 'K' |
| 15:15.06 | florian_kc | i don't know any |
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| 15:56.48 | reenoo | evening |
| 15:56.56 | moray | afternoon |
| 15:57.04 | XorA | morning |
| 15:57.05 | florian_kc | hi reenoo, hi moray |
| 15:59.14 | reenoo | hey moray, XorA, florian_kc |
| 16:00.38 | reenoo | I guess I should just switch to the local "Moin" which works all day long, or pretend to be from oz and use "g'day" ;) |
| 16:02.26 | florian_kc | is "moin" ugt compatible? ;) |
| 16:02.33 | XorA | ~ugt |
| 16:02.34 | ibot | somebody said ugt was Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:02.45 | XorA | probably |
| 16:03.54 | XorA | moray: is it true you are Edinburgh based? |
| 16:04.12 | moray | XorA: Yes. |
| 16:04.22 | XorA | moray: cool, so am I |
| 16:04.27 | moray | Ah right. :) |
| 16:04.43 | XorA | although Im currently in london for linuxworld |
| 16:04.56 | reenoo | well, the problem with ugt is that people tend to think you had only just got up when you say morning |
| 16:05.12 | XorA | so have I accidently bumped into you at edlug and not know? |
| 16:05.17 | moray | XorA: Right. Various people I know are there on the Debian/GNOME/whatever stand I think. |
| 16:05.51 | moray | XorA: I've only been to EdLUG once or twice in recent years, though one of those was this or last month (not sure which) |
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| 16:06.05 | moray | XorA: last time I saw it seemed more alive again, so maybe I'll go more regularly |
| 16:06.09 | XorA | moray: ah right, I wasnt at last two so no way |
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| 16:08.44 | moray | XorA: I also have an external motivation to go to EdLUG more currently, to recruit more people to help with the Debian conference here in June :) |
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| 16:09.11 | XorA | moray: hmm, I forgot about that, have to see if I can get wolfson to send me |
| 16:10.06 | moray | XorA: well, it's normally possible to attend for free, so it's good value |
| 16:10.55 | XorA | moray: cool |
| 16:11.34 | XorA | moray: what sort of stuff happens, its possible we might want to talk |
| 16:12.12 | moray | XorA: the conference will be a week of talks, though for many people the main point is speaking to / hacking on stuff with other people they don't normally see face-to-face |
| 16:12.36 | moray | XorA: there's also a week before that for people who want to work on team projects without distractions |
| 16:12.43 | XorA | moray: cool |
| 16:12.51 | moray | (where each week is maybe 5 days within a week really) |
| 16:15.39 | moray | XorA: we should be making an 'official' announcement of dates etc. soon |
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| 16:17.47 | XorA | moray: ok |
| 16:19.12 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 16:29.08 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 16:36.35 | mimecar | hi |
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| 18:31.22 | florian | re |
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| 21:28.35 | florian | ok, i guess the gpr bugzilla is ready to use... |
| 21:29.53 | mreimer | hi florian |
| 21:31.17 | florian | hey mreimer |
| 21:32.29 | mreimer | florian: is there a new mailing list for GPE commits? |
| 21:33.09 | florian | mreimer: in theory yes, but i'm not sure if it works with svn already |
| 21:34.25 | florian | obviously not :-/ |
| 21:34.33 | mreimer | :-( |
| 21:39.02 | florian | i'm pretty sure we'll manage to fix this |
| 21:39.23 | florian | but the new project ml works already :) |
| 21:40.25 | mreimer | where is it? I would like to subscribe |
| 21:40.57 | florian | mreimer: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/mail/?group_id=21 |
| 21:41.01 | mreimer | thanks florian |
| 21:41.10 | mreimer | florian: how's Jonas? |
| 21:42.38 | florian | mreimer: good :-) too good... crawling around in dangerous areas like my office :-) |
| 21:42.43 | mreimer | :-) |
| 21:42.54 | mreimer | pushing buttons, no doubt :-) |
| 21:43.42 | florian | the dangerous buttons on my workstation are hidden... luckily :) |
| 21:46.54 | hvontres|poodle | florian: how about the buttons on your powerbar...:) |
| 21:47.15 | florian | mreimer: and your little one? |
| 21:48.13 | mreimer | florian: she's growing like a weed, a big chunk now. She doesn't crawl; instead she scoots on her bottom, so we call her 'Scooter' :-) |
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| 21:49.51 | florian | hvontres|poodle: good point - still pretty save. the powerbar is screwed under my desk... a good method to get rid of cables between your feed |
| 21:50.40 | florian | mreimer: :-) |
| 21:51.16 | florian | mreimer: Growing means food and if there is not enough... well i love this one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/boor/img/mampf.jpg |
| 21:51.44 | mreimer | florian: excellent picture! lol |
| 21:51.55 | mreimer | florian: he's a cutie |
| 21:52.56 | florian | :-) |
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| 22:04.25 | florian | someone needs to write some announcements.... |
| 22:05.41 | dullard | I now have svn 1.1.4... still cant checkout gpe *sigh* |
| 22:07.03 | florian | dullard: if you just want to get the sources and are not interested in the latest website sources you can still use the handhelds.org cvs |
| 22:08.00 | dullard | are they roughly speaking the same? I would like to at some point develop some gpe apps |
| 22:08.25 | dullard | this first hurdle is just bizarre |
| 22:09.49 | florian | dullard: yes, the only differences right now are some website bits and gpe-screenshot vs. gpe-scap |
| 22:10.40 | dullard | ok splendid... I'll go cvs |
| 22:11.12 | florian | dullard: indeed... i'd really like to know what might cause this effect... if this persists i'll try to debug this. |
| 22:11.31 | florian | dullard: which distribution on which platform did you use to check out? |
| 22:11.44 | dullard | well it only seems to be me with the problem so its me who needs debugging |
| 22:11.52 | dullard | osx panther |
| 22:12.42 | dullard | just built subversion from source |
| 22:13.29 | florian | hrm... i need more hardware ;) no mac available here |
| 22:14.42 | dullard | only because I need it for work and its always on. If it proves impossible to use I'll just fire up my rusty pc |
| 22:15.44 | florian | Major parts of gpe were developed on rusty pcs :-) |
| 22:15.59 | dullard | best thing for it... nice and slow |
| 22:16.01 | florian | This workstation is seven years old now... |
| 22:16.17 | florian | right |
| 22:16.55 | dullard | its just the volume of the fan that puts me off... like programming while hoovering |
| 22:18.31 | florian | this one isn't too bad... after some minor improvements when i got it. my octane is really nasty... |
| 22:29.31 | florian | dullard: which file system did you use for the checkout? |
| 22:30.50 | dullard | whatever osx uses. I'm not sure. Do you think that would be a problem? |
| 22:33.14 | florian | yes, it is not intended but this file might exist with diffent cases and that's valid on most systems but usually not in osx |
| 22:35.20 | florian | a friend just verified - works with osx only if you use a real case sensitive file system |
| 22:37.00 | dullard | ohhh. I never even realised it was case insensitive! That explains a lot. thanks florian |
| 22:38.12 | florian | dullard: i didnt know either... it preserves the case but doesn't use it |
| 22:38.35 | dullard | so my little tests confirm... what a pain |
| 22:40.18 | florian | yeah... i really wonder why |
| 22:43.37 | dullard | to please consumers and annoy geeks |
| 22:44.44 | dullard | I'll probably be able to set up a new partition. It seems there is a setting for case sensitivity when formatting |
| 22:48.15 | dullard | ...or maybe just a filesystem in a file |
| 22:48.18 | florian | s/please/confuse |
| 22:48.24 | florian | ;) |
| 22:48.42 | dullard | :D |
| 22:49.34 | florian | good night |
| 22:50.26 | dullard | night florian |
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