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| 14:57.20 | mimecar | hi |
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| 16:21.18 | mimecar | hi |
| 16:21.22 | mimecar | how can I change locale on GPE ? |
| 16:21.30 | mimecar | I've installed locale-base-xx-xx |
| 16:21.37 | mimecar | and some translated apps |
| 16:21.59 | mimecar | I can choose my language on login screen , but apps only run on english |
| 16:22.43 | mimecar | if I launch the program from terminal I get |
| 16:22.49 | mimecar | locale not suported by c library |
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| 16:26.04 | mimecar | any idea ? |
| 16:51.02 | mmp | mimecar: that's weird... . is the locale set correctly? Are the files from the package correctly installed? |
| 16:51.15 | mimecar | I think so |
| 16:52.08 | mimecar | but I don't know what the next step is |
| 16:52.16 | mmp | I have not installed te locales yet, I'm just guessing :-(. |
| 16:52.47 | mimecar | I would like weeks start on monday at least |
| 16:53.39 | mmp | what is the content of LC_MESSAGES env. variable? |
| 16:53.52 | mimecar | wait |
| 16:54.34 | mimecar | is not defined |
| 16:55.05 | mmp | hmm, and some other LC_ things? |
| 16:55.11 | mmp | env |grep LC_ |
| 16:55.39 | mimecar | nop |
| 16:57.55 | mmp | strange... |
| 17:04.40 | mimecar | mmp: LC_MESSAGES should have a value, vaven't you? |
| 17:05.02 | mmp | well, not on ssh login; I wonder if gpe-dm sets values...\ |
| 17:05.20 | mimecar | I'm using a ssh connection now |
| 17:06.38 | mmp | hmm, neither in gpe session... but I'm using english locale |
| 17:08.04 | mimecar | have someone installed gcc ? |
| 17:17.18 | mimecar | my first native program runs on GPE :))) |
| 17:19.33 | mmp | mimecar: congrat:-) |
| 17:19.44 | mimecar | there was an error on a library |
| 17:19.44 | mmp | btw, you compiled it on PDA? |
| 17:19.51 | mimecar | my Hello world on C :) |
| 17:19.54 | mmp | :-) |
| 17:20.04 | mimecar | that's very simple |
| 17:20.05 | mmp | on pda, or crosscompiled from PC? |
| 17:20.13 | mimecar | only PDA |
| 17:20.44 | mmp | uhh:-) How much time did the compilation take? (I heard rumors that it's pretty slow) |
| 17:21.03 | mimecar | some miliseconds |
| 17:21.08 | mimecar | there was a command to measure time |
| 17:21.12 | mimecar | isn't it ? |
| 17:21.19 | mmp | time |
| 17:21.22 | mmp | :-) |
| 17:21.31 | mimecar | not installed |
| 17:21.42 | mmp | but I was just curious, no need to measure:) |
| 17:21.43 | mimecar | less than 0.5 sec |
| 17:21.51 | mimecar | why not :P |
| 17:22.08 | mimecar | If i got the source code, I can recompile one app on the PDA ? |
| 17:22.10 | mmp | 'time' is a part of bash; no idea if it is also contained in busybox shell... |
| 17:22.22 | mimecar | installing... |
| 17:22.34 | mmp | well, but for more complicated things, you will need also -dev packages |
| 17:23.05 | mmp | btw, how much space took gcc? |
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| 17:28.14 | mimeca1 | re |
| 17:30.43 | mimeca1 | mmp: have you some sugestion to test a program |
| 17:30.46 | mimeca1 | compiling it ? |
| 17:31.09 | mmp | just compile and see:) |
| 17:31.22 | mimeca1 | I downloaded gpe-calculator |
| 17:31.31 | mimeca1 | make OK |
| 17:31.34 | mimeca1 | next step ? |
| 17:32.09 | mmp | if make was ok, you should be able to do e.g. make install, or even try to run (but there might be missing icons) |
| 17:33.26 | mimeca1 | I launch ok the binary compiled |
| 17:33.57 | mimeca1 | let's change some thing |
| 17:34.52 | mmp | :-) |
| 17:36.35 | mimeca1 | I don't find the strings file |
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| 17:37.31 | mimeca1 | hi leoncamel |
| 17:37.56 | mmp | mimeca1: the file with translations? It should be .po file, if it is there... |
| 17:38.44 | mimeca1 | I found... |
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| 17:41.56 | mimeca1 | mmp: make doesn't want recompile |
| 17:42.40 | mimeca1 | compiling... |
| 17:42.43 | mmp | hmm, maybe you are missing msgfmt &co. utils (they should be in some gettext - like package) |
| 17:43.02 | mimeca1 | one second |
| 17:49.42 | mimecar | WORKS |
| 17:50.34 | mmp | :) |
| 17:50.50 | mimecar | mmp: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.26337.png |
| 17:51.06 | mimecar | now, I have a calgulator without '7' and '8' :P |
| 17:51.29 | mmp | :-) |
| 17:53.15 | emte | or if they just take a long time with softfpu |
| 17:53.54 | emte | looks good tho |
| 17:54.01 | mmp | emte: I don't know, but they are probably implemented in libm and use taylor series... |
| 17:54.37 | emte | SORT ? |
| 17:55.24 | mmp | emte: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series |
| 17:55.33 | emte | maybe thats a q ... |
| 17:55.43 | mmp | aha:) |
| 17:56.26 | mimecar | see you later |
| 17:56.46 | mmp | sqrt could be implementable by using some magic with derivations iirc. I implemented it once, long time ako. |
| 17:57.01 | emte | you can cheat with sqrt |
| 17:57.22 | emte | they dont have to be done as floating point |
| 17:57.57 | mmp | yes, but with 'float' argument, as in libm, they have to:) |
| 17:58.13 | emte | i do wish that a handwritting formula calculator existed for PDAs tho ... |
| 17:58.35 | mmp | but, iirc, even for drawing a circle on screen, there is an algorithm using just additions and bit shifts... |
| 17:58.46 | emte | yeah |
| 17:59.03 | mmp | emte: that is a dream of many students having math. analysis, or similar courses:) |
| 17:59.23 | emte | with latex it is possible |
| 17:59.27 | mmp | :-)) |
| 17:59.45 | emte | but i dont know of any latex apps for any PDA yet |
| 18:00.09 | mmp | maybe it's time to port some:) |
| 18:00.25 | emte | have you ever tried to compile it? |
| 18:00.50 | mmp | no, I just got PDA 3 months ago, and since them I have just worked on my project:) |
| 18:00.59 | mmp | but... it basically should work. |
| 18:01.01 | emte | i havent had any luck in normal linux yet |
| 18:01.34 | emte | not quite as bad as trying to compile the Haskell compiler but close |
| 18:01.43 | mmp | :-) |
| 18:02.03 | mmp | not any functional programming language |
| 18:02.25 | emte | i only need it for a waveform generator that i use |
| 18:02.37 | emte | for PIC simulations |
| 18:03.00 | mmp | err, what apps are you running on your PDA? |
| 18:03.04 | emte | works for Atmel devices too i think ... |
| 18:03.34 | emte | normally, just the familiar defaults |
| 18:03.36 | mmp | hmm, so far I have played just with AVRs... |
| 18:03.47 | mmp | but why waveform generator? :) |
| 18:03.53 | emte | too many problems show up |
| 18:04.01 | emte | oh thats on my workstation |
| 18:04.07 | mmp | ahaa:-)) |
| 18:04.20 | mmp | Sorry, I missed the context switch:) |
| 18:04.24 | emte | np |
| 18:04.39 | emte | i'd like to do more on my PDA .... |
| 18:04.46 | emte | few barrier issues tho |
| 18:04.51 | emte | including space |
| 18:05.26 | mmp | For me (and for now) is the biggest limitation lack of reasonable keyboard |
| 18:05.39 | mmp | + I don't have fully functional bluetooth... |
| 18:05.55 | emte | i usually huse handwritting recog |
| 18:05.58 | emte | use* |
| 18:06.15 | emte | but i have keyboards as well |
| 18:06.20 | mmp | rosetta? |
| 18:06.30 | emte | sometimes they work, sometimes they dont |
| 18:06.34 | emte | yeah |
| 18:07.01 | emte | bumpy buses make rossetta a bit hard tho |
| 18:11.25 | mmp | I never managed to learn rosetta strokes... |
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| 18:12.01 | mmp | emte: sorry delay, I just had something to eat... |
| 18:12.09 | emte | np |
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| 18:13.08 | emte | the strokes are pretty easy |
| 18:13.15 | mmp | is rosetta faster than traditional "virtaul keyboard"? :) |
| 18:13.24 | emte | i'd say so |
| 18:13.36 | emte | as soon as it recognises your sloppyness |
| 18:16.26 | mmp | hmm, maybe I'll give it one more try:) |
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| 18:27.11 | emte | might have been easier for me ... i played around with writting with phonecian characters a while ago and many of the symbols are simular |
| 18:27.32 | emte | the others are like regulat latin char |
| 18:27.33 | mmp | :-)) |
| 18:27.35 | emte | regular* |
| 18:27.54 | emte | like a T is like a short 7 |
| 18:28.20 | emte | etc |
| 18:28.28 | emte | there are a few quirky char |
| 18:28.42 | emte | i and l are easy to mixup |
| 18:28.52 | emte | bbiab |
| 18:29.45 | mmp | :-) |
| 18:30.01 | emte | oh, the gestures take a bit of practice |
| 18:30.12 | emte | arrows, del, tab etc |
| 18:30.19 | mmp | :-) |
| 18:30.29 | emte | i still mix up a few |
| 18:32.07 | mmp | Hmm, I also considered buying some bt keyboard, maybe from the more strange ones... |
| 18:32.11 | mmp | frogpad e.g. ... |
| 18:32.17 | mmp | at least, when bt will work properly:) |
| 18:33.13 | mmp | that might be definite cure to slow writing, together with small display... |
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| 18:54.00 | mimecar | re |
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| 19:24.44 | emte | i've read a lot of mixed reviews of the frogpad |
| 19:25.19 | emte | if i find one for really cheap or am given one i'll get one |
| 19:25.37 | emte | but based on the reviews i wouldnt pay more than $50 |
| 19:26.23 | mimecar | emte: what are you looking for ? |
| 19:27.35 | emte | me? nothing, was mmp 's muse about buying a bt keypad and he listed the frogpad as a posibility |
| 19:27.46 | mimecar | ok |
| 19:28.14 | emte | i already have three keyboards/pads/thumbpads |
| 19:28.33 | emte | but i still use rosetta most of the time |
| 19:30.26 | mimecar | I use the native keuboard |
| 19:31.00 | emte | native ... the software one or does yours have a keyboard? |
| 19:31.23 | mmp | emte: well, the frogpad prices are "a bit" higher |
| 19:31.43 | emte | yeah they list at ~$100 |
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| 19:54.43 | mmp | hmm, is it possible to configure somehow the delay with which rosetta recognizes letter? |
| 19:54.59 | emte | not sure |
| 19:55.14 | emte | that might be part of the adaptive algo |
| 19:55.45 | emte | you writting too slow? |
| 19:57.19 | mmp | yes, 1 letter/s, or less |
| 19:59.04 | mmp | we'll see:) |
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| 20:40.17 | mimecar | re |
| 21:29.47 | mmp | good night:) |
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| 21:48.10 | mimecar | hi lamikr |
| 21:50.06 | lamikr | hi mimecar again, I had some network proplems in the morning. And after that been mostly going from one place to another. |
| 21:50.30 | mimecar | you were travelling... |
| 21:53.31 | lamikr | No, just spending time with my family in chilldren toy chop, then by going to watch finish baseball, then jogging, sauna, pizza, ... Doing everything I can in one day rush :-) |
| 21:54.03 | mimecar | children and family, one day of work.... |
| 21:55.34 | lamikr | well, the new children shop. was kind of funny, seemed to make all > 20 years crazy at least as much as small children... |
| 21:56.11 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 21:58.30 | lamikr | The baseball game was definetly good, even my city's team lost. |
| 21:59.35 | mimecar | the next match they will win |
| 22:00.21 | mimecar | lamikr: you were from finland ? |
| 22:02.23 | lamikr | Yes, wednesday is always full of hope. (I thing I have there is really some saying from thurdsays) How about you, you are from spain. Are you following football or trying to ignore it? |
| 22:02.50 | mimecar | I ignore many football match |
| 22:02.58 | mimecar | but my team won this night |
| 22:09.05 | lamikr | Well that's good. I have one friend from portugal who is not keen to football at all. But even he was al the time trying to listen the portuqueses world champ game results from the bbc broadcast when we met in the latvia. In finland football is luckily not so popular. |
| 22:09.29 | mimecar | you are lucky |
| 22:09.37 | mimecar | here is a nightmare :( |
| 22:16.24 | lamikr | Well. I like from the sport and think that it is much civiliced way of fighting than going real wars, but too much is always too much whether it is football, ice-hockey or something else non-sportish. |
| 22:16.53 | mimecar | here is football or football |
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| 22:19.10 | mimecar | hi jg |
| 22:19.57 | lamikr | mimecar: I think I go to sleep now, having today "do nothing" day. |
| 22:20.11 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:20.19 | mimecar | night lamikr |
| 22:20.25 | lamikr | goodnight |
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