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| 00:45.48 | mreimer | does anyone have starling working? it segfaults for me, in lastfm_init() |
| 00:46.20 | florian | mreimer: yes, but it starts only once - then you need to remove ~/.gpe/starling |
| 00:46.20 | mreimer | florian, did you get it to play anything? |
| 00:46.43 | florian | mreimer: it played my ogg file but i didn't hear anything except of a very short sound just after start. |
| 00:46.50 | mreimer | for me it segfaults as soon as I select something from the file dialog |
| 00:46.59 | florian | ah |
| 00:47.06 | florian | i had this with gpe-edit too |
| 00:47.06 | florian | mreimer: which image is this? |
| 00:47.12 | mreimer | I built from .dev |
| 00:47.15 | mreimer | gpe-image |
| 00:47.23 | mreimer | more info: it segfaults when I tap on a directory, but not when I tap on a .mp3 |
| 00:47.23 | florian | yeah, same here |
| 00:47.26 | florian | mreimer: do you have a debug binary? |
| 00:47.27 | mreimer | no. I did build and install gdb, but not a debug binary. how do I do that? |
| 00:47.35 | florian | mreimer: you can build it with oe. set DEBUG_BUILD = "1" and INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" in your local.conf and build the package |
| 00:47.38 | mreimer | thanks florian |
| 00:47.43 | florian | mreimer: i suspect it is a GTK issue... but not sure |
| 00:47.47 | mreimer | night florian |
| 00:47.47 | mreimer | thanks for your help today |
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| 07:01.41 | Genesis | salut |
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| 08:29.55 | CruX| | hi |
| 08:30.06 | CruX| | what version of XFree uses gpe ? |
| 08:30.23 | zecke | none |
| 08:30.26 | CruX| | i have arm machine and my Xfree is segfaulting |
| 08:30.35 | CruX| | zecke: i know there is kdrive |
| 08:30.41 | zecke | XFree is hopefully dead |
| 08:30.51 | CruX| | but kdrive is in xfree/xorg package |
| 08:31.10 | zecke | xorg != xfree |
| 08:31.52 | CruX| | i know |
| 08:31.58 | zecke | but Gtk+/GPE should work with any version of X11 |
| 08:32.15 | CruX| | ok my kdrive is segfaulting in ServerBitsFromGlyph |
| 08:32.31 | CruX| | and when i use Xfbdev from Gpe everything is ok |
| 08:32.40 | zecke | your XFree kdrive is segfaulting? try a more recent version of kdrive from Xorg |
| 08:32.54 | CruX| | so where can i find kdrive + patches ? |
| 08:33.17 | zecke | use plain Xorg? |
| 08:33.25 | zecke | kdrive from Xorg that is |
| 08:33.34 | CruX| | i cant because driver for my touchscreen is only in kdrive |
| 08:34.16 | zecke | http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive |
| 08:34.27 | zecke | are the patches one applies to kdrive from Xorg |
| 08:35.51 | CruX| | zecke: great, thx much |
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| 09:12.43 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:13.32 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
| 09:13.45 | pvanhoof | florian_kc, I implemented the OO/interface skeleton for that get-folders API |
| 09:13.51 | pvanhoof | I'll create a diff and send it to the list |
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| 09:30.20 | florian_kc | pvanhoof: i knew you would have that ready before i get up :-) |
| 09:30.33 | pvanhoof | :) |
| 09:30.37 | pvanhoof | but it's not implemented yet |
| 09:30.46 | pvanhoof | it's just skeleton code, gobject code |
| 09:30.52 | pvanhoof | infrastructural :) |
| 09:30.59 | pvanhoof | the stuff that is done in 8 seconds in C# |
| 09:31.28 | pvanhoof | http://tinymail.org/trac/tinymail/attachment/wiki/HelpRedesignGettingFolders/skeleton.tar.gz |
| 09:32.41 | florian_kc | heh |
| 09:33.41 | florian_kc | Is that just me or did anyone else notice that delivering mail to the list seems to take ages? |
| 09:38.24 | pvanhoof | the tinymail mailing list? |
| 09:38.29 | pvanhoof | or another list? |
| 09:38.58 | florian_kc | opps, no the gpe list |
| 09:40.10 | pvanhoof | ah ok |
| 09:40.21 | pvanhoof | check that skeleton code out :) |
| 09:40.34 | pvanhoof | I need opinions :) |
| 09:40.45 | pvanhoof | I'm not yet 100% certain about the api, and it's extremely important |
| 09:41.12 | pvanhoof | everybody who writes an e-mail client wants to iterate over the folders and get subscribed and unsubscribed folder lists and stuff like that |
| 09:45.15 | florian_kc | ok, as soon as i have a free minute here... |
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| 09:52.41 | neal | was someone looking for me last night? |
| 09:53.07 | neal | <ibot#gpe[23:00]> neal <i=neal@c-24-128-164-108.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe |
| 09:53.39 | florian_kc | hi neal |
| 09:53.47 | neal | hi florian |
| 09:54.00 | florian_kc | neal: yes, mccarthy was looking for you |
| 09:54.22 | neal | I don't see anything addressed to me in my logs |
| 09:54.43 | florian_kc | strange |
| 09:54.54 | neal | but I didn't read them closely |
| 09:54.59 | neal | I only searched for the string neal |
| 09:56.12 | neal | oh wait, I see it now |
| 09:57.48 | neal | strange, mccarthy asked ibot at 21:18 but ibot only responded at 23:00 |
| 09:57.58 | neal | and I didn't search that far back in my logs. |
| 09:58.09 | florian_kc | heh |
| 09:58.11 | neal | do you have his email address? |
| 09:59.05 | florian_kc | mccarthy@engrng.pitt.edu |
| 09:59.49 | neal | thanks. |
| 10:00.21 | florian_kc | neal: What do you think about using Subversion? |
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| 11:23.11 | neal | florian: subversions is quite intuitive |
| 11:23.18 | neal | florian: I'm using it here, actually |
| 11:23.27 | neal | florian: And I have yet to read a tutorial or manual |
| 11:23.46 | neal | florian: That is, its interface is similar to cvs |
| 11:24.28 | neal | florian: I haven't had to evaluate the other version control systems |
| 11:24.33 | neal | florian: So, I can't really comment |
| 11:24.47 | neal | florian: But moving files and atomic commits are quite nice. |
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| 11:44.43 | dan2003 | is there an applet for swicthing between wifi profiles yet? |
| 11:47.32 | mmp | dan2003: I tried to port NetworkManager to GPE... |
| 11:47.43 | mmp | work is partially done, but it requires dbus 0.62 to run |
| 11:48.09 | mmp | and upgrading dbus breaks familiar binary image, because it uses dbus 0.23 |
| 11:48.49 | mmp | And, I'm not sure whether it is ready for practical usage; I have not tested it extensively, because of weird behavior of my wifi driver |
| 11:49.08 | mmp | (actually, there are more drivers which don't behave 100% correctly) |
| 11:49.55 | dan2003 | hehe, ok |
| 11:50.26 | florian_kc | neal: indeed... so far quite some people mentioned that his would be a good idea. |
| 11:50.41 | florian_kc | and not a single one had a strong argument against it. |
| 11:50.55 | florian_kc | hi mmp |
| 11:51.07 | mmp | dan2003: if you want you can give it a shot, but it's probably not ready for practical usage |
| 11:51.10 | mmp | hi florian_kc :) |
| 11:51.43 | florian_kc | converting cvs to svn works pretty well too. |
| 11:53.06 | florian_kc | mmp: your libhal-nm bb is ok, the libnl build system makes me crazy... |
| 11:53.22 | mmp | florian_kc: it doesn't build correctly? |
| 11:53.29 | mmp | it might be possible |
| 11:53.47 | mmp | There was one issue I supposed to be just my local |
| 11:54.19 | florian_kc | mmp: exactly - it pick up stuff from the host |
| 11:54.21 | mmp | compilation using bitbake failed, but with correctly set env, I could compile it manually without any problems. |
| 11:54.31 | mmp | hmm, I have not noticed this |
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| 11:56.50 | mmp | I'm just rebuilding my familiar tree |
| 11:56.53 | mmp | florian_kc: ^ |
| 11:57.09 | mmp | So I can try to fix it... |
| 11:57.16 | mmp | just after compilation finishes |
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| 11:59.11 | florian_kc | mmp: i built me an oz image for my h3600 with dbus 0.62 |
| 12:00.46 | mmp | s/comming/coming |
| 12:04.08 | mmp | florian_kc: does NM work with it, at least a bit? |
| 12:08.37 | florian_kc | mmp: no idea, i need to build the other stuff first |
| 12:10.29 | mmp | florian_kc: aha, ok... |
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| 13:08.04 | florian_kc | mmp: ok, libnm is done |
| 13:08.15 | mmp | florian_kc: what was the problem? |
| 13:09.24 | florian_kc | mmp: mostly the fact that you need to include the local includes before the oe ones |
| 13:09.34 | mmp | aha:-( |
| 13:10.04 | mmp | florian_kc: thanks a lot |
| 13:10.59 | florian_kc | the icon theme and networkmanager are the missing ones i thin |
| 13:11.58 | mmp | icon theme should be fine, it's modified version from OE, I just had to update it, because OE one was quite old and the tarball wasn't on its place |
| 13:12.07 | florian_kc | mmp: can you provide the changes between upstream nm and yours as a patch? |
| 13:12.42 | mmp | florian_kc: I can, but I'm afraid the patch could be quite big |
| 13:12.58 | mmp | (not that I would do as many changes, but the .glade file could help it to grow) |
| 13:13.27 | florian_kc | mmp: should be no problem... |
| 13:13.30 | mmp | Let me see how big will th patch be |
| 13:13.34 | mmp | :-) |
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| 13:18.35 | mmp | florian_kc: gzipped it has 31kbytes; not as much as I was afraid |
| 13:20.03 | mmp | florian_kc: uploaded http://handhelds.org/~mmp/files/NetworkManager-0.6.4-gpe.patch.gz |
| 13:20.17 | florian_kc | mmp: many thanks |
| 13:20.22 | mmp | florian_kc: I thank you |
| 13:21.28 | mmp | florian_kc: if I will later update bbfile and patch, can I send it to you, to update OE? |
| 13:22.11 | mmp | actually, things aren't solved "aesthetically correct", I should do a small revision of configure.in to solve things better. And also discuss changes with NM people. |
| 13:24.08 | florian_kc | mmp: that would be cool, i'll try to build it now and send you the changes |
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| 13:33.29 | florian_kc | mmp: there are |
| 13:33.32 | florian_kc | | /usr/lib/libcairo.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
| 13:33.55 | mmp | moment |
| 13:33.57 | mmp | cairo? |
| 13:34.14 | mmp | how did it get there... |
| 13:34.33 | mmp | I did not mention it in dependencies, but, afaik, it was not directly required by NM |
| 13:35.44 | mmp | is it required by NM? |
| 13:39.14 | florian_kc | no, it looks like it picks up the host gtk includes |
| 13:42.12 | mmp | I see just standard automake pkgconfig macros inside... |
| 13:42.40 | mmp | I'm sorry, I don't have any idea where could be the problem... |
| 13:42.46 | florian_kc | same here |
| 13:43.45 | mmp | florian_kc: could you have a look into nm WORKDIR? maybe there is something in Makefiles what can help; or even in config.log |
| 13:47.00 | mmp | florian_kc: can I help somehow? |
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| 13:47.33 | mmp | (I thought, I ran out of ideas, if you have anything idea I could try to test...) |
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| 13:49.52 | bedboi | hi there |
| 13:50.36 | florian_kc | mmp: i did... config.log looks pretty normal |
| 13:50.39 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 13:51.48 | florian_kc | hrm, my mail to the mailinglist is still not delivered... or did someone her got it. Its about user documentation. |
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| 14:07.55 | florian_kc | mmp: i think i found it: nm creates its own pkgconfig file it uses during build |
| 14:09.05 | mmp | Did that one contain incorrect paths? |
| 14:10.31 | mmp | Hmm, now I'm starting to put pieces together. I would not be very surprised if this also forced me to not use classic make install, but oe_libinstall in nm bbfile |
| 14:11.04 | mmp | But anyway, how would it come to incorrect contents? |
| 14:12.33 | XorA | mmp: pkgconfig files are contruction using ${prefix} pkgconfig class then "fixes" them on staging |
| 14:13.11 | florian_kc | yeah |
| 14:13.31 | mmp | XorA: hmm, I'm just trying to find out why it did not broke the whole compilation at me... . |
| 14:13.57 | XorA | mmp: you dont have libgtk+-devel installed on host? |
| 14:14.04 | mmp | yes |
| 14:14.42 | mmp | all devel files are installed on both normal system and OE |
| 14:14.51 | XorA | not that then |
| 14:15.25 | mmp | I'll be really curious about if I will be able to compile NM again after rebuilding familiar tree from scratch... . |
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| 14:21.02 | florian_kc | i wonder about the liker call anyway - it doesn't use "-l", it lists all the so files with full path |
| 14:23.50 | mmp | I have it! They definitely use black magic to get it compiled! :) |
| 14:25.18 | florian_kc | oh |
| 14:25.34 | florian_kc | i just found another bad thing: " libtool: link: warning: library `/home/oe/build_h3600/staging/arm-linux/lib/libhal-nm.la' was moved." |
| 14:26.11 | mmp | I have noticed few strange things when I looked at libnm-util compilation; but as far as it worked (at least without relinking), I did not pay attention to it :-( |
| 14:26.18 | mmp | :-( |
| 14:26.51 | mmp | but oe_libinstall should fix the .la file, shouldn't it? |
| 14:28.08 | mmp | yes, if I used it |
| 14:28.27 | florian_kc | i see... |
| 14:29.04 | mmp | but anyway autotools_stage_all uses oe_libinstall |
| 14:29.05 | florian_kc | nm_applet_LDADD contains two local la files: $(top_builddir)/utils/libnmutils.la and $(top_builddir)/libnm-util/libnm-util.la |
| 14:29.17 | mmp | (At least in familiar tree) |
| 14:29.18 | florian_kc | these are not fixed |
| 14:30.11 | XorA | looks like thouse two should have been seperate packages |
| 14:32.59 | florian_kc | maybe... its linked static anyway |
| 14:36.04 | florian_kc | i guess in this case we can fix it hacking the Makefile a little bit. but that nm stuff is scary anyway |
| 14:36.51 | XorA | mmp: cosmic luck balance was on your side |
| 14:37.28 | mmp | XorA: :-))) Apparently, it has left me already... |
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| 14:46.37 | mmp | no:-( depmod crashed again... |
| 14:47.26 | mmp | So I won't build kernel that easily |
| 14:48.01 | florian_kc | yeah |
| 14:48.38 | florian_kc | now i suffere from an interesting effect - i added a patch and configure fails. i removed the patch, cleaned up and it still fails |
| 14:50.27 | mmp | florian_kc: are you running configure manually, from bitbake? |
| 14:51.44 | florian_kc | mmp: from bitbake |
| 14:53.09 | mmp | florian_kc: I should probably download OZ tree and test&fix it... |
| 15:07.53 | mmp | oops, it seems like libnl doesn't stage the pkgconfig file... |
| 15:08.36 | mmp | or it does... |
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| 15:16.48 | florian_kc | mmp: here it does it now... |
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| 15:18.05 | florian_kc | i'll push the working bits in a few minutes |
| 15:18.56 | mmp | florian_kc: thanks a lot... . I need to learn quite a lot of things about bbfiles (I have noticed many 'weird' things in libnl bbfile after reviewing it now) |
| 15:22.02 | mmp | and, I forgot that NM needs wireless-tools |
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| 15:25.29 | mmp | florian_kc: if you could add wireless-tools to 'DEPENDS' for NM... |
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| 15:40.09 | pvanhoof | florian_kc, :) |
| 15:40.20 | pvanhoof | guess what that smiley means :) |
| 15:40.26 | pvanhoof | yeah, that it's implemented |
| 15:40.36 | pvanhoof | well, not yet the async one |
| 15:40.44 | pvanhoof | but the sync one is done .. the query stuff also isn't done yet |
| 15:40.59 | pvanhoof | but the sync one is of course the basis for everything else .. and 80% of the code |
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| 16:09.37 | florian_kc | mmp: ok |
| 16:09.41 | florian_kc | pvanhoof: heh |
| 16:09.50 | pvanhoof | :) |
| 16:15.23 | florian_kc | mmp: hmm DESTDIR=${prefix}? (dhcdbd) |
| 16:15.32 | mmp | uhh |
| 16:16.11 | pH5 | hi florian_kc, I'm going to change the dependencies of some gpe packages in oe ("dbus" --> "dbus-glib") |
| 16:16.35 | pH5 | does anything besides gpe-autostarter, gpe-beam, gpe-bluetooth, gpe-calendar, gpe-contacts and gpe-filemanager use the dbus glib bindings? |
| 16:16.40 | florian_kc | pH5: ah yes, that's necessary |
| 16:16.59 | florian_kc | i think that's it |
| 16:17.01 | florian_kc | ah |
| 16:17.29 | florian_kc | networkmanager |
| 16:17.38 | pH5 | florian_kc: thanks |
| 16:17.38 | mmp | florian_kc: aha, that should be OK; I wanted to put it there just in case it requires (or will require) to have correct runtime paths. |
| 16:18.19 | florian_kc | ok |
| 16:18.35 | mmp | but better idea would be to autotoolize whole package |
| 16:21.43 | florian_kc | nm makes me crazy |
| 16:27.11 | mmp | florian_kc: just put down a rough list telling me what doesn't work, I will try to have a look and fix it... . |
| 16:28.56 | mmp | or, even better; I can just download oe tree and test it myself... |
| 16:29.04 | mmp | err, oz tree:) |
| 16:30.18 | florian_kc | mmp: linking of the nm applet. |
| 16:31.55 | mmp | florian_kc: where exactly does it fail? |
| 16:32.08 | mmp | btw, are which org.oe. branch are you using? |
| 16:32.48 | florian_kc | mmp: i used oz354x for testing |
| 16:33.00 | florian_kc | but i'm pushing to .dev |
| 16:33.09 | florian_kc | done |
| 16:33.21 | florian_kc | tase bits work |
| 16:33.26 | florian_kc | eh these |
| 16:33.42 | mmp | ok, so just nm itself remains... |
| 16:34.13 | mmp | if I knew there will be problems with other OE branches... :( |
| 16:37.40 | florian_kc | france: why is mail to the gpe mailinglist not delivered anymore? |
| 16:38.20 | mmp | today is my lucky day:( monotone: network error: failed to connect: Connection refused |
| 16:38.55 | florian_kc | mmp: which server? |
| 16:39.01 | mmp | monotone.oe.org |
| 16:39.36 | florian_kc | try again |
| 16:39.53 | mmp | still |
| 16:41.47 | florian_kc | mmp: its back |
| 16:42.26 | mmp | florian_kc: not for me, I'm afraid.. . |
| 17:04.37 | rob_w | soon i will have me industrial gpe sending sms via gnokii , quite cool how flexible some 15mb footprint can be |
| 17:04.58 | rob_w | ~chant gpe |
| 17:05.07 | ibot | gpe ! gpe !! gpe !! gpe!!!!!!! |
| 17:11.47 | florian_kc | rob_w: cool |
| 17:15.10 | florian_kc | mmp: does it work if you use monotone.linuxtogo.org? |
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| 17:18.55 | mmp | florian_kc: also refuses connections, at least from my local PC... |
| 17:19.40 | florian_kc | works here |
| 17:22.00 | mmp | strange... |
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| 17:27.40 | mmp | florian_kc: fault at my side, I have just monotone version 0.25... sorry. |
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| 17:58.30 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 18:14.15 | mmp | florian_kc: setting up new version of mtn, but it will take a while; OE.mtn.bz2 grew somewhat... |
| 18:14.59 | florian_kc | mmp: yeah |
| 18:15.14 | mmp | I apologize that I took so much your time just by telling that it refuses connection |
| 18:15.34 | florian_kc | mmp: my version of the nm bb is at linuxtogo.org/~florian/files |
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| 18:16.27 | mmp | florian_kc: thank you; I will have look on it ASAP. (just after I get OZ tree working) |
| 18:16.58 | florian_kc | mmp: ok, cool |
| 18:17.39 | mmp | well.. not so cool ... /dev/hda7 31G 30G 499M 99% / |
| 18:17.45 | mmp | I should clean up some mess:) |
| 18:19.52 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 18:22.00 | florian_kc | ~lart handhelds.org for beeing slooow |
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| 19:29.07 | mmp | OZ tree set up, starting to (I hope really) compile... |
| 19:31.59 | rob_w | what would be a simple drawing area example application ? |
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| 20:27.54 | mimecar | hi |
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| 20:43.25 | florian | re |
| 20:44.18 | mimecar | re florian |
| 20:47.11 | mmp | florian: it seems that I will compile nm for oz later tomorrow; I'm now just compiling cross-gcc (but glibc is already done). |
| 20:47.53 | florian | mmp: for which platform do you build? |
| 20:48.19 | mmp | collie |
| 20:48.46 | mmp | I wanted to have setup as close to OZ as possible |
| 20:50.17 | mmp | hmm, I thought I will take a bit more time |
| 20:51.20 | florian | ok |
| 20:51.52 | mmp | ah, now even the trick with manual compilation doesn't work... |
| 20:52.30 | florian | i managed to build it with .dev (familiar) |
| 20:54.25 | florian | mmp: thats org.openembedded.dev |
| 20:54.25 | florian | and familiar is unmaintained in oe |
| 20:54.32 | mmp | err |
| 20:54.33 | mmp | sorry |
| 20:54.44 | mmp | I meant org.oe.dev, of course:) |
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| 21:10.05 | mmp | florian: you fixed quite a lot of things in libnl bbfile... |
| 21:10.43 | florian | mmp: yeah.. and i'm using a newer one. its bild system is very strange |
| 21:11.44 | mmp | I could not find the pre6 anywhere, (or at the time it wasn't at the place where gentoo ebuild pointed), so I sticked with pre5... |
| 21:14.35 | mmp | florian: btw, if there will be any work with NM or its dependencies, which will apparently take >15mins, just tell me... . You have quite a lot of work, I don't want take your time to fix the stuff I broke... |
| 21:21.18 | florian | mmp: i think nm is the last one... |
| 21:21.57 | mmp | florian: well, it has to be, you already fixed other bbfiles (AFAIK:) |
| 21:22.24 | florian | :-) |
| 21:22.55 | mmp | not again...configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool :-( I don't really like using LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack... |
| 21:23.24 | florian | but right, enough for today... need to make jtag for a board work and care about gpe. |
| 21:24.13 | mmp | florian: good night:) and thanks a lot... . |
| 21:24.13 | florian | mmp: iirc you need to install it on your host system |
| 21:24.28 | florian | mmp: that doesn't mean that o got to bed now :-) |
| 21:24.31 | mmp | florian: it is getting installed into staging, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is enough... |
| 21:25.24 | mmp | ?? I'm already almost in bed and though I'm almost incapable of staying awake... |
| 21:26.08 | mmp | on the other hand, I should start to get accustomed to this; school year begins in few weeks:) |
| 21:33.48 | mmp | I even forgot to fill in dbus-1 as a dependency for nm... |
| 21:35.19 | florian | mmp: it seems to build for koen too (angstrom, .dev) |
| 21:35.32 | florian | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/repo.php?action=details&pnm=networkmanager |
| 21:35.39 | mmp | that's positive:) |
| 21:35.57 | florian | with some additional patch to support dbus 0.92 |
| 21:36.31 | mmp | nice; koen has some autocompiling script, which builds everytime the most-recent org.oe.dev? |
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| 21:46.01 | mmp | since when libhal-nm requires dbus??? |
| 21:49.31 | mmp | s/requires/does not require/ |
| 21:50.03 | mmp | that's correct, and that I really should see when creating bbfile |
| 21:51.03 | florian | hmm... maybe i mixed that up with something else |
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| 22:11.18 | mmp | good night... |
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