| 00:13.18 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:40.53 | *** join/#gpe fng_sma (n=martin@wopr.otago.ac.nz) |
| 00:40.58 | fng_sma | hello |
| 00:45.26 | deni1 | hi again |
| 01:00.30 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:10.58 | *** join/#gpe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 01:23.18 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:33.35 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:50.58 | deni1 | nite |
| 01:51.01 | *** part/#gpe deni1 (n=denix@gra94-5-82-226-239-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:17.01 | *** join/#gpe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 02:25.45 | *** join/#gpe Timelord0 (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 03:02.25 | *** join/#gpe kb7sqi_ (n=kb7sqi_@cpe-024-028-234-015.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 03:24.06 | *** join/#gpe johanbr_ (n=j@d154-20-189-105.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:28.36 | fng_sma | Catch you later. |
| 03:44.22 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 04:06.40 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 04:33.35 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 06:14.23 | *** join/#gpe neal (i=neal@walfield.org) |
| 06:24.16 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 06:45.45 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:25.19 | *** join/#gpe zap (n=zap@85.249.170.16) |
| 07:30.00 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:50.33 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:59.59 | *** join/#gpe shiyee (n=Shiyee@0x50a16869.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 08:08.31 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 08:14.13 | *** join/#gpe zedkatuf (n=audela@82-32-57-69.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 08:14.25 | *** join/#gpe neal (i=neal@walfield.org) |
| 08:14.28 | zedkatuf | Hi all, to install e17 as my wm for gpe, do I just do: |
| 08:14.31 | zedkatuf | ipkg install e17 |
| 08:14.32 | zedkatuf | ? |
| 08:20.52 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 08:53.05 | *** join/#gpe fng_sma (n=mfelis@oucs810.otago.ac.nz) |
| 08:53.08 | fng_sma | hello |
| 09:05.11 | fng_sma | neal: Hello? |
| 09:07.49 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 09:08.04 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 09:08.11 | fng_sma | hello pb_ |
| 09:08.18 | fng_sma | Long time, no see. |
| 09:08.29 | pb_ | yeah, indeed |
| 09:08.40 | pb_ | I've been on vacation, at work, and that kind of thing. |
| 09:09.34 | fng_sma | I've been running around all over the two nice islands. It's wonderful here. |
| 09:09.52 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 09:10.06 | pb_ | I was thinking that I might go to new zealand for a bit later in the year |
| 09:10.30 | fng_sma | I'll be here until February. Hehe, would be funny to meet you here :-) |
| 09:10.40 | pb_ | hehe |
| 09:10.48 | fng_sma | I have to pay my flat until December 31st. You're very welcome. |
| 09:11.43 | pb_ | thanks :-) |
| 09:13.12 | fng_sma | I'm currently struggeling a bit with the libeventdb. I thought it might be a nice idea to have the same for the todos and contacts and let these libs even do the libgpevtype stuff. |
| 09:14.05 | pb_ | yeah, that might make sense |
| 09:15.29 | fng_sma | Although I guess it would take a long time to create the libs. |
| 09:19.39 | fng_sma | So are there any sommer of code things going on this year? |
| 09:22.02 | pb_ | yeah, though I think the summer of code is nearly finished |
| 09:22.11 | *** join/#gpe rebecca_ (n=Rebecca@220-245-114-109-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:22.31 | pb_ | I haven't really been involved in the SoC this year. There's one project to do with network configuration, but that's the only one I remember offhand. |
| 09:22.38 | pb_ | florian would know more about it, I expect |
| 09:23.02 | *** join/#gpe mmp (n=mmp@85.135.171.175) |
| 09:23.03 | fng_sma | I was thinking of applying for one but the semester break here did not fit as nice as last year. That was just perfect. |
| 09:23.49 | pb_ | ah, I think mmp is one of the summer coders |
| 09:23.56 | pb_ | I guess he can tell you all about it :-) |
| 09:24.01 | *** join/#gpe johanbr (n=j@d154-20-189-105.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 09:24.10 | mmp | pb_: :) Yes, I am |
| 09:24.28 | fng_sma | mmp: When does it finish? |
| 09:24.43 | mmp | well, project deadline is on august 21st |
| 09:24.58 | fng_sma | mmp: oh cool, so the time of sleepless nights is about to start? |
| 09:25.12 | mmp | yes:) |
| 09:25.30 | mmp | yesterday I've had 14 hour log debugging session |
| 09:25.43 | mmp | Gladly, successfully accomplished:) |
| 09:26.04 | mmp | s/log/long |
| 09:26.28 | fng_sma | mmp: hehe... Last year I had two weeks before the deadline a completely new design for the stuff and had almost to start over. Was, erm... a bit stressful. |
| 09:26.33 | *** join/#gpe polyonymous (i=hacker@pD9539D1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:26.40 | mmp | I can imagine |
| 09:26.54 | fng_sma | So what are you exactly working on? |
| 09:26.58 | mmp | I also changed project's design few ttimes before I begin |
| 09:27.09 | mmp | I'm porting NetworkManager to GPE |
| 09:27.21 | mmp | actually trying to force applet to work as it has to |
| 09:27.21 | XorA | mmp: woo woo |
| 09:27.45 | fng_sma | Ahh, nice! |
| 09:27.46 | rebecca_ | hey peoples :) |
| 09:27.48 | mmp | which is quite funny, when some people on nm mailing list complained that the some dialogs don't fit on 1024x768:) |
| 09:28.01 | fng_sma | mmp: Sounds like fun :-) |
| 09:28.23 | fng_sma | rebecca_: hello! |
| 09:28.25 | *** join/#gpe petterhj (n=TESTID@host-81-191-111-34.bluecom.no) |
| 09:28.37 | mmp | rebecca_: hello:) |
| 09:28.49 | mmp | XorA: :) |
| 09:29.32 | rebecca_ | i put gpe on my ipaq hx4700 a while back.. now ive decided to put the latest version on it.. so im visiting here just in case. hehe |
| 09:30.39 | mmp | hmm, well, actually the applet works now... just wpa_supplicant is 50% of what it should be... literally - the installed version is 0.2.6 and I'm just compiling 0.5.1 :) |
| 09:31.08 | fng_sma | mmp: hehe |
| 09:31.21 | mmp | fng_sma: what was your project last year? |
| 09:31.42 | fng_sma | mmp: the syncing with opensync. |
| 09:32.13 | fng_sma | But there have been some database changes so I currently try to update stuff and use the newer apis. |
| 09:32.30 | mmp | :) I have not played with this a lot yet |
| 09:34.00 | fng_sma | mmp: There are still quite a few things to do. I am currently adding the support for categories, which should have been implemented a long time ago. |
| 09:34.44 | mmp | hmm, your SoC project has quite a long duration:) |
| 09:35.04 | fng_sma | mmp: Yeah I luckily got some extension of pb_ :) |
| 09:35.23 | mmp | mine will also probably last much longer |
| 09:35.26 | mmp | :) |
| 09:35.50 | fng_sma | The communication works it is just the conversion on the gpe side that is not 100% complete. |
| 09:36.26 | mmp | hmm, so we can expect fully-fledged PIM sync? :) That sounds cool:) |
| 09:37.03 | fng_sma | mmp: erm, of course. It's done when it's done :-) |
| 09:37.15 | mmp | :-) |
| 09:38.47 | mmp | I know that. I just hope that when the time stress will disappear, I will have enough time to do massive code cleanup in gpe applet and so:) And, in best case, integrating gpe-nm-applet to NetworkManager tree... |
| 09:39.30 | rebecca_ | are these instructions/links current? just curious because some of those handhelds.org pages are rather dates |
| 09:39.35 | rebecca_ | dated* |
| 09:39.47 | neal | fng_sma : You were looking for me? |
| 09:40.09 | fng_sma | neal: hello, I wrote the mail about the libeventdb |
| 09:40.18 | mmp | rebecca_: the flashing procedure should be the same I think, unless you have changed/updated bootloader |
| 09:40.47 | fng_sma | neal: I already sent you another mail. |
| 09:41.02 | rebecca_ | mmp: ok, thanks :) |
| 09:42.04 | neal | ok. |
| 09:42.06 | neal | let me read that. |
| 09:43.05 | neal | (I currently use the |
| 09:43.07 | neal | time period from 0, to 2^31 -1 but I'll try your suggestion) |
| 09:43.10 | neal | that is bad. |
| 09:43.49 | neal | if you have a recurrence which repeats without end, you'll use a lot of unnecessary space. |
| 09:43.50 | fng_sma | neal: hehe, I know. It was just to get the gpesyncd working. |
| 09:44.25 | neal | hmm, right. |
| 09:46.27 | pb_ | hi neal |
| 09:47.16 | neal | regarding importing and exporting, take a look at gpe-calendar/import-vcal.c and http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/rlog?f=gpe/base/gpe-calendar/export-vcal.c |
| 09:47.29 | neal | well, gpe-calendar/export-vcal.c |
| 09:47.56 | neal | I sort of rewrote the import and export code in that context instead of in libgpevtype |
| 09:48.15 | neal | It should in theory be move back to libgpetype |
| 09:48.20 | neal | s/move/moved/ |
| 09:48.25 | neal | pb_: Hi. |
| 09:48.40 | fng_sma | neal: I think that is a good idea, since the approach to the conversion is completely different. |
| 09:48.42 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 09:49.37 | neal | what's the approach? |
| 09:50.02 | neal | I'm a bit worried about how this is supposed to work as libeventdb isn't happy when someone else writes to the underlying db. |
| 09:50.16 | fng_sma | neal: It is just a conversion of tags to vstuff and back. Not really a datatype for contacts or so. |
| 09:50.19 | *** join/#gpe zest (n=dima@87.226.9.7) |
| 09:50.42 | fng_sma | neal: what do you mean? |
| 09:50.43 | neal | I've made some basic improvements to allow multiple readers and a single writer |
| 09:50.46 | neal | but it is not perfect. |
| 09:50.56 | neal | I mean the following: |
| 09:51.10 | neal | gpe-calendar is happily running |
| 09:51.19 | fng_sma | :-) |
| 09:51.22 | neal | the sync process starts and modifies the underlying db |
| 09:51.41 | neal | how does gpe-calendar figure out that the db has been modified and should refresh? |
| 09:52.07 | rebecca_ | ok.. this is probably a stupid question.. but how does one connect to a wap with WPA and a PSK using GPE? i tried entering the details in the wlan0 network config app, but it doesnt seem to work |
| 09:52.10 | neal | this logic could be built into libeventdb |
| 09:52.35 | neal | we add some inotify support and monitor for external changes |
| 09:52.56 | neal | but it would be a bit complicated. |
| 09:52.58 | rebecca_ | i have a CF wifi card that ive used with other APs. so the hardware is ok |
| 09:53.40 | fng_sma | neal: hmm... or could the gpesyncd notify gpe-calendar in some way? |
| 09:55.47 | neal | what do you propose? |
| 09:56.00 | neal | using inotify is "some sort of notification" |
| 09:56.19 | neal | the complicated part isn't detecting a change |
| 09:56.27 | neal | the complicated part is detecting *what* changed |
| 09:57.57 | fng_sma | neal: but I guess that a sync does not happen to often and so if the screen refreshes even if there was no change on the showed events I guess it wouldn't be that much disturbing for the user. |
| 09:59.02 | neal | how often do you envision syncing? |
| 09:59.17 | neal | I can imagine every 15 minutes. |
| 09:59.18 | mmp | rebecca_: for now you will probably need wpa_supplicant |
| 09:59.43 | mmp | well, I don't know much about that network config app... |
| 09:59.45 | neal | especially when sharing the calendar with others |
| 10:00.32 | rebecca_ | mmp: okay, ill look into it6 |
| 10:00.55 | fng_sma | neal: ah alright. (Sorry I'm a bit slow) I could only think of passing a callback function to the EventDB object. |
| 10:01.08 | mmp | rebecca_: or, if that app uses wpa_supplicant (and that is most likely it does) maybe some debugging of wpa_supplicant would be also good... |
| 10:01.28 | neal | fng: Hmm? |
| 10:01.34 | neal | fng: What do you mean? |
| 10:01.56 | neal | fng: the syncronization should be internal to the library. |
| 10:02.09 | neal | there potentially other users of libeventdb |
| 10:02.11 | neal | gpe-today is one |
| 10:02.19 | rebecca_ | mmp: hmm.. i think debugging is beyond me. but ill see how i go.. |
| 10:02.20 | neal | the maemo gpe-calendar applet is another |
| 10:02.30 | neal | they need to see the changes as well |
| 10:02.54 | fng_sma | neal: So all of them would have to pass a callback function to the EventDB that will be called whenever someone else changes something. |
| 10:03.01 | mmp | rebecca_: I was thinking more about reading the logs and seeing what happens; not actual debugging with gdb:) |
| 10:03.05 | rebecca_ | mmp: would it be easier to just use WEP.. i didnt because it's not the most secure.. hmmmm |
| 10:03.13 | rebecca_ | ahhh, ok |
| 10:03.16 | mmp | :) |
| 10:03.25 | mmp | bbl, lunch:) |
| 10:04.02 | rebecca_ | bye :) |
| 10:04.17 | neal | fng: Oh you mean that. |
| 10:04.26 | neal | fng: That is not the hard part. |
| 10:04.36 | neal | fng: In fact, it is already handled. |
| 10:04.57 | neal | fng: There are a number of signals on the eventdb object. |
| 10:05.27 | neal | fng: for new events, deleted events, modified events, likewise for calendars |
| 10:05.34 | neal | so no problem there. |
| 10:08.19 | fng_sma | okay, so what is then the hard part? |
| 10:09.17 | neal | like I said detecting what changed |
| 10:09.30 | neal | you stick a bunh of new events in the db or you modify some |
| 10:09.53 | neal | and the libeventdb instance in gpe-calendar has to figure out which events are new |
| 10:09.59 | neal | and which events have been modified |
| 10:09.59 | neal | etc. |
| 10:11.04 | rebecca_ | anyone here use gpe on a ipaq hx4700? the install instructions ( http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700HowtoInstallLinux ) contain dead links to files needed for the install. i would love to get the latest version of gpe working on it. |
| 10:11.18 | rebecca_ | any help would be appreciated |
| 10:11.36 | fng_sma | I guess it could take more operations to keep track of that stuff then to just refresh the current views. |
| 10:13.36 | pb_ | rebecca_: which links are dead? |
| 10:14.28 | rebecca_ | all the links to the various image files needed. under the "Flash Linux onto the device" section |
| 10:15.49 | rebecca_ | plus the timestamp in the URLs point to files from 2005.. which i know isnt the latest |
| 10:16.02 | fng_sma | neal: But do you have any suggestions how I can import vcards? |
| 10:16.11 | fng_sma | neal: s/vcard/vevent |
| 10:16.20 | pb_ | try in http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.4-rc3/install/files/ |
| 10:16.45 | pb_ | I think those are the latest bits. |
| 10:17.06 | rebecca_ | pb_: oh, those dates look much nicer :) |
| 10:17.09 | rebecca_ | thanks :) |
| 10:18.25 | neal | fng_sma : What do you mean? |
| 10:20.21 | fng_sma | neal: I need to get vevents into the libeventdb. With the libgpevtype I had a direct conversion to the tags for the database. But with the libeventdb I can't just create a event and add it to it. I have to have a EventDB to generate it. |
| 10:21.01 | fng_sma | neal: And I think before adding another parameter to a conversion function in the libgpevtype it would be cleaner to just have the whole im- and exporting in the libeventdb. |
| 10:21.15 | rebecca_ | pb_: is bootldr-1.2.3.rom the file that gets renamed to reflash.ctl . and also.. do you know where to find an image of the home dir? or could i just use one from an earlier version |
| 10:21.25 | neal | fng_sma : I rewrote the import and export code already |
| 10:21.34 | neal | fng: It is just in the wrong place |
| 10:21.43 | fng_sma | neal: where is the import code? |
| 10:21.47 | neal | fng: Look at import-vcal.c in gpe-calendar |
| 10:21.51 | pb_ | rebecca_: no; reflash.ctl is just a text file. if you can't find an up-to-date one, start with an old version and make the obvious modifications to it. |
| 10:22.04 | pb_ | rebecca_: as for the home dir, yes, you can use an old copy of that. it hasn't changed in forever. |
| 10:22.08 | neal | fng: I am open to moving it back into libgpevtype |
| 10:22.21 | neal | and perhaps cleaning up the API |
| 10:22.30 | rebecca_ | pb_: okay, thankyou very much :) |
| 10:22.46 | fng_sma | neal: so you would rather not have it in the libeventdb? |
| 10:22.50 | pb_ | rebecca_: I'm not sure why the reflash.ctl files are missing. might be worth writing to familiar-dev about that. |
| 10:23.44 | neal | I don't see why it should go into libeventdb |
| 10:26.39 | fng_sma | neal: I thought it would fit in there since the Event object is tightly connected to libeventdb the conversion would fit better there. But I don't really care. |
| 10:33.30 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 10:34.19 | fng_sma | I have to go to bed. Monday is coming fast. |
| 10:34.43 | pb_ | good night |
| 10:35.02 | fng_sma | Have a nice day (it suddenly has a completely different meaning). |
| 10:35.05 | fng_sma | Bye |
| 10:37.15 | *** join/#gpe zecke (n=ich@88.134.164.33) |
| 10:37.28 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 10:40.45 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 10:41.48 | *** join/#gpe neal (i=neal@walfield.org) |
| 11:00.21 | *** join/#gpe goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@38.84-48-210.nextgentel.com) |
| 11:00.28 | mmp | re |
| 11:07.13 | *** join/#gpe Dinkosto (n=root@LAN.g00NeT.ORG) |
| 11:12.47 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 11:22.58 | *** join/#gpe jed (n=jed@dialup-4.233.197.177.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net) |
| 11:39.49 | *** join/#gpe zap (n=zap@85.249.170.16) |
| 11:45.46 | *** join/#gpe Cwiiis (n=cwiiis@82-43-42-18.cable.ubr02.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:51.59 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 11:56.34 | *** join/#gpe rebecca_ (n=Rebecca@220-245-114-109-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 12:09.40 | *** join/#gpe neal (i=neal@walfield.org) |
| 12:25.35 | *** join/#gpe jg (n=jg@c-24-218-178-107.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 12:29.23 | *** join/#gpe rebecca_ (n=Rebecca@220-245-114-109-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 12:52.37 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 13:22.02 | *** join/#gpe rob_w (n=bob@p213.54.219.106.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 13:47.15 | *** join/#gpe JAV (n=jose@105.Red-80-34-40.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:49.00 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:53.30 | *** join/#gpe mmp (n=mmp@85.135.171.175) |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#gpe mmp_ (n=mmp@85.135.171.175) |
| 14:22.46 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:31.12 | *** join/#gpe pvanhoof (n=pvanhoof@d54C1807C.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:39.08 | *** join/#gpe mimecar (n=chatzill@185.Red-83-41-47.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:39.11 | mimecar | hi |
| 14:41.00 | JAV | hi |
| 14:41.41 | mimecar | hey JAV |
| 14:55.03 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:14.40 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:21.09 | *** join/#gpe kb7sqi (n=kb7sqi@cpe-024-028-234-015.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 15:36.38 | *** join/#gpe mmp_ (n=mmp@85.135.171.175) |
| 16:16.56 | *** join/#gpe reenoo (n=r@p5489C690.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:20.43 | *** join/#gpe zecke (n=ich@88.134.164.33) |
| 16:42.47 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:48.03 | *** join/#gpe mmp__ (n=mmp@85.135.164.116) |
| 16:58.20 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:06.26 | *** join/#gpe deni1 (n=denix@gra94-5-82-226-239-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:06.46 | deni1 | hi all |
| 17:23.22 | *** join/#gpe mmp_ (n=mmp@85.135.164.116) |
| 17:24.51 | reenoo | pb_: around? |
| 17:55.00 | *** join/#gpe florian (n=fuchs@p5083C59E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:55.41 | florian | hi all |
| 17:56.00 | deni1 | hi |
| 17:58.02 | zedkatuf | Can anyone tell me a quick way to switch back to fluxbox from enlightenment? |
| 17:58.11 | mmp_ | florian: hello, I have few cruel questions for you, if/when you will have time... |
| 17:58.18 | zedkatuf | Ideally I just want to create a shell script so I can switch between the two as needbe |
| 17:58.38 | zedkatuf | (gnumeric seems to load up way faster in enlightenment but abiword doesn't fir on teh screen) |
| 18:00.09 | mmp_ | florian: /nick mmp |
| 18:00.16 | mmp_ | err, sorry:-) |
| 18:00.45 | mmp | I should really decide whether to write or to change nickname:-) |
| 18:01.17 | florian | mmp: hi, sure :-) |
| 18:01.31 | mmp | florian: I have small problem with wpa_supplicant; the problem is that the version in GPE is 0.2.6 and I need something >=4.0 |
| 18:02.38 | mmp | I took 0.4.8 from OZ, hoping it will work, but it says 'Operation not supported' on many ioctls it's doing; now I don't know if it's just because of different kernel headers it was compiled with, ir because my wifi adapter has simply odd driver.. |
| 18:03.13 | mmp | Since morning I'm trying to build my own supplicant, but it seems that modutils-cross don't really like amd64 |
| 18:03.51 | mmp | they crash with memory corruption |
| 18:04.21 | mmp | and module-init-tools don't seem to do the job which bbfile wants |
| 18:04.45 | florian | mmp: we have 0.4.7 and 0.8.1 in .dev, it might be simple to build these |
| 18:05.33 | florian | mmp: the one from oz will not work properly, this is a softfloat binary. |
| 18:05.53 | mmp | florian: but isn't it important to compile it with 2.4 kernel? |
| 18:06.07 | mmp | familiar uses hardfloat? |
| 18:06.27 | florian | mmp: that shouldn't matter... |
| 18:06.35 | florian | mmp: yes |
| 18:07.04 | mmp | aha, that explains why mplayer -ao mp3lib eats up so much resources:) |
| 18:08.19 | mmp | I was trying to build 0.5.1 with my current familiar builtree, but it is simply impossible due my arch |
| 18:08.21 | mmp | probably |
| 18:08.23 | deni1 | hi all! I've a problem with 3630 and familiar 0.8.4_rc3 |
| 18:09.52 | deni1 | I've already installed 3 times... each time I try to change the theme, it exit and I cannot no more logon |
| 18:10.59 | mmp | florian: pls. if you would have a bit time, could you build wpa_supplicant package for me (ideally within familiar tree)? At least I will see if the driver really lacks serious support of recent wext version... . |
| 18:11.30 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:11.54 | mmp | deni1: I don't really know; are you able to log into your ipaq remotely (e.g. serial console)? You could then trace the reason in logfiles... |
| 18:12.17 | deni1 | yes |
| 18:12.59 | mmp | the .xsession-errors file in your home directory could be good point where to start |
| 18:14.51 | deni1 | ok... i'll take a look to that |
| 18:17.12 | mmp | florian: despite of this, it seems that the applet started to work quite reliably after I fixed one little problem yesterday. I just have some minor icon problems, but I hope I'll manage to fix that. |
| 18:20.43 | florian | mmp: let me try... |
| 18:20.59 | mmp | florian: thanks in advance |
| 18:37.49 | florian | mmp: try this: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~florian/wpa-supplicant_0.4.8-r8_arm.ipk |
| 18:39.33 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:41.15 | deni1 | florian: why gomunicator must also send sms? |
| 18:41.35 | deni1 | wouldn't be better if sms are handled by some other software? |
| 18:44.54 | mmp | florian: this version doesn't give so much errors as the previous one, but it still does not associate... |
| 18:45.15 | mmp | I will do some more testing on wpa-supplicant, thanks a lot:-) |
| 18:46.47 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:48.31 | mmp | well, definitely the driver is too old and does not support new wext's... |
| 18:53.05 | florian | deni1: well... true, but its better to have some working solution first |
| 18:53.25 | deni1 | florian: heheh ok |
| 18:53.41 | deni1 | but was only because the work can be more modularized |
| 18:56.33 | Philippe | hi people! |
| 18:57.54 | florian | hi Philippe |
| 18:58.10 | deni1 | hi all |
| 18:58.19 | deni1 | again |
| 18:58.33 | Philippe | hi florian deni1 |
| 18:58.50 | florian | deni1: the best would be to do a separate backend for the telephone stuff and have frontends using it. |
| 18:58.57 | deni1 | ;) |
| 18:59.02 | deni1 | this was my idea too |
| 18:59.05 | Philippe | time to get some work done again. Winter is not there yet, but been way to inactive lately... |
| 18:59.23 | florian | Philippe: cool |
| 18:59.52 | deni1 | I can offer me to test etc. my knowledge is C development is not so good... |
| 18:59.54 | Philippe | florian: which OE tree are we working on/in atm, or have we gone completely for Angstrom? |
| 19:00.01 | deni1 | I own a h6365 |
| 19:03.48 | florian | Philippe: heh no, the familiar oe tree doesn't seems to be updated anymore. i (personally) started to play with and updated gpe in oz |
| 19:04.46 | reenoo | heh |
| 19:04.58 | Philippe | florian: ok. oz it is. |
| 19:04.59 | reenoo | the familiar tree is fairly alive |
| 19:05.09 | florian | reenoo: not the oe one |
| 19:05.25 | reenoo | OE doesn't even host that branch anymore |
| 19:05.31 | Philippe | is there another familiar tree now? |
| 19:05.55 | reenoo | Philippe: http://familiar.handhelds.org/#build |
| 19:05.57 | florian | reenoo: well... it wasn't used for quite some time anyway |
| 19:07.13 | Philippe | ieew... git... don't like that... |
| 19:08.31 | florian | Philippe: i don't like monotone either... but didn't look at git so far. not another scm :-/ |
| 19:09.01 | reenoo | Philippe: works well. pretty fast. doesn't require any setup on the server side. |
| 19:09.31 | Philippe | reenoo: true. I just find it awfully clumsy and it eats disk at an insane rate... |
| 19:20.44 | *** join/#gpe csmanx (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:36.47 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:15.01 | *** join/#gpe deni2 (n=denix@gra94-5-82-226-239-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:30.27 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:40.09 | mmp | florian: it seems like I found out why scanning doesn't work properly for me; but it probably will need more recent driver :-( So far I can continue fixing other things; but I would like to ask you for one more build - the most recent at76c503a-modules (ideally 0.13, if it exists for 2.4.x series) |
| 20:42.34 | mmp | for h5550 machine, if you have the neccessary build files |
| 20:43.13 | mmp | if not, I will try to fix my build root somehow to produce correct results... |
| 20:43.16 | florian | mmp: hmm.. let me see |
| 20:43.57 | mmp | florian: but just if you already have h3900 buildroot. Otherwise, it would take ages to build the kernel... |
| 20:50.48 | florian | mmp: which package date do you have? |
| 20:51.22 | mmp | florian: it's 0.0cvs20051212-r4 |
| 20:52.02 | mmp | the best would probably be some snapshot from august; I thin on July the 17th there was 0.13 release... |
| 20:52.09 | mmp | But I'm not sure, though... |
| 20:59.06 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:04.51 | florian | mmp: uploaded a newer one... but the lstest don't compile for me |
| 21:05.09 | mmp | :-( |
| 21:05.25 | florian | try the 20060601 |
| 21:06.58 | mmp | florian: thanks a lot; I will try this; in the worst case it just will not work:-) |
| 21:10.03 | florian | mmp: yeah |
| 21:11.29 | mmp | the point probably was/is that the wifi tried to associate automatically with any AP nearby. So the driver did not stop scanning, but it seems it also blocked normal scan attempts |
| 21:14.29 | mmp | hmm, driver works, but the card adapter still doesn't scan properly... . Maybe I should risk and update the firmware... |
| 21:24.01 | *** join/#gpe neal (i=neal@c-24-128-164-108.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:24.36 | *** join/#gpe zecke (n=ich@88.134.164.33) |
| 21:26.16 | florian | hi neal, hi zecke |
| 21:27.13 | neal | hi. |
| 21:29.17 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:40.33 | mmp | florian: I sent you (and probably first time really timely:) the status report... . |
| 21:41.24 | mmp | and thanks a lot for all the packages:) |
| 21:41.42 | florian | mmp: ok, yw :-) |
| 21:42.00 | *** join/#gpe rob_w (n=bob@p213.54.212.22.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 21:42.19 | mmp | and also good noght :) |
| 21:42.37 | mmp | I need some sleep, so I can debug more effectively:) |
| 21:48.44 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:57.27 | *** part/#gpe deni2 (n=denix@gra94-5-82-226-239-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:01.56 | *** join/#gpe rob_w (n=bob@p213.54.210.204.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 22:13.24 | *** join/#gpe florian_ (n=fuchs@p5083C59E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:19.06 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:21.22 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@V8d13.v.pppool.de) |
| 22:42.38 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:18.12 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@V8d13.v.pppool.de) |
| 23:20.24 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:24.02 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@V8d13.v.pppool.de) |
| 23:25.06 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@V8d13.v.pppool.de) |
| 23:28.40 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:49.08 | *** join/#gpe CSMan (n=csman@bas1-montreal42-1178046646.dsl.bell.ca) |