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| 02:43.08 | oziko | does anybody knows another locatin for downloading gpesyn cources, I cannot connect to the GPE's ftp |
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| 09:59.19 | mmp | hello; is it obligatory to call gpe_set_window_icon for a GtkPlug, which will be docked into panel? |
| 10:01.17 | florian_kc | mmp: no, that's not neessary |
| 10:01.27 | florian_kc | good mrning, btw |
| 10:01.35 | mmp | florian_kc: also to you:) |
| 10:02.26 | mmp | I',m trying to embed a simple icon to tray, but so far I'm getting X errors, which also crash matchbox-panel. |
| 10:02.46 | mmp | weird is that I almost re-wrote that part from minimix, which works correctly |
| 10:03.36 | florian_kc | mmp: ah nasty, that xembed stuff is scary... |
| 10:04.38 | mmp | hmm, using gpe_system_tray_dock seems to be quite convenient way. Despite of that the function probably doesn't like code I wrote:) |
| 10:06.12 | florian_kc | heh |
| 10:10.31 | mmp | one more question - just creating GtkPlug and embedding it using gpe_system_tray_dock should in theory work? (maybe showing it before docking) |
| 10:16.35 | florian_kc | mmp: yes, thats done in quite some apps... iirc the window needs to be realized before docking, but that would happen if you show it. |
| 10:17.01 | mmp | hmm, does it need to have a handler for configure event? |
| 10:17.16 | florian_kc | not necessarily |
| 10:21.53 | mmp | hmm, I need some food to solve this:) bbl |
| 10:21.59 | mmp | ... and thanks:) |
| 10:25.45 | florian_kc | mmp: yw |
| 10:57.50 | mmp | florian_kc: it is quite strange, but so far it seems that gpe_set_window_icon has to be called for GtkPlug which I want to dock correctly. |
| 10:58.02 | mmp | commenting it out immediately causes X errors |
| 10:58.31 | florian_kc | strange... |
| 11:00.17 | mmp | at least my testcase behaves this way |
| 11:01.25 | mmp | but it seems that minimix too, when I comment gpe_set_window_icon out |
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| 11:20.52 | pb__ | that is odd |
| 11:20.55 | pb__ | what are the X errors you see? |
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| 13:50.47 | florian_kc | pb__: You created the gtk patch for gpe-what, right? |
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| 14:07.43 | pb__ | florian_kc: right |
| 14:07.48 | pb__ | bbiab, meeting now |
| 14:08.11 | florian_kc | pb__: ok |
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| 14:42.14 | mmp | pb__: sorry delay |
| 14:42.38 | mmp | the error whith which both applets crashed was:The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. |
| 14:42.38 | mmp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:11.00 | pb__ | mm, that does sound like the window hasn't been realized yet |
| 15:11.18 | mmp | pb__: it was... |
| 15:11.25 | mmp | I tried to pay attention to every detail |
| 15:11.39 | mmp | the code was almost cut&pasted from minimix |
| 15:12.29 | mmp | but I guess matchbox-panel needs the icon for item in add/remove menu, so without it, it probably crashes... |
| 15:12.29 | mmp | (my guess) |
| 15:14.49 | mmp | pb__: could that be, or I'm wrong? I don't have much knowledge about X internals, neither libmb... |
| 15:14.56 | florian_kc | mmp: try to realize or show it |
| 15:15.33 | mmp | florian_kc: was both realizing and showing it before I docked it |
| 15:15.52 | mmp | err, I was... them ... |
| 15:15.58 | mmp | my english is getting rusty |
| 15:16.12 | mmp | ( = it breaks easily:) |
| 15:16.33 | florian_kc | strange |
| 15:17.41 | mmp | florian_kc: the working code (although rewrote to use gtk icon setting function) is at http://handhelds.org/~mmp/gtktest-works.c |
| 15:19.08 | mmp | gtktest-crashes.c is the one with commented out icon setting |
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| 15:33.03 | mmp | the files contain few hardcoded paths to images... |
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| 16:12.48 | pb__ | mmp: I don't think it needs the icon. |
| 16:13.09 | pb__ | can you run it in synchronous mode with a breakpoint on the gdk_x_error function to see where exactly it blows up? |
| 16:15.47 | florian_kc | pb__: the gdk_property_change() call in gpe_what_mark_widget() causes a runtime warning: |
| 16:15.51 | florian_kc | (gpe-conf:6656): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) |
| 16:49.12 | florian_kc | pb__: looks like it doesn't like zero length data... can we change this to "" and length 1 safely? |
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| 17:17.33 | pb__ | florian_kc: yeah, probably, though I kind of feel that this is a GTK bug |
| 17:17.39 | pb__ | I think zero length data is valid enough |
| 17:18.46 | mmp | florian_kc: it seems that this was the last bug to get nm-applet working with matchbox-panel - from a huge extent it now works correctly, except dialogs, which need to be rewritten... |
| 17:19.22 | mmp | at least in Xnest on my laptop |
| 17:19.32 | florian_kc | pb__: hmm right, maybe i should try with an up to date one first. |
| 17:19.56 | florian_kc | mmp: cool! |
| 17:21.04 | mmp | going to test it on PDA, but I need to flash it first; I had to re-flash wince, due MMC/SD controller problems. |
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| 18:00.48 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 18:23.10 | Skyhusker | hi |
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| 19:29.25 | DataBeaver | Has anyone else had gpe-conf crash recently? |
| 19:31.23 | DataBeaver | Specifically, in the OpenEmbedded .dev branch |
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| 19:38.38 | tombs | hi all |
| 19:39.18 | tombs | just a little question please.... |
| 19:40.02 | tombs | between T5(with Intel 416Mhz) and TX(with ARM 920T) which one is faster? |
| 19:40.54 | tombs | I mean why Palm put a 312Mhz processor in the new palm, if with T5 was already 416 |
| 19:41.16 | tombs | it makes me think that this ARM is faster than the Xscale |
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| 19:54.25 | florian | re |
| 19:55.46 | DataBeaver | Or maybe it's a low-end device, or maybe they just don't need that much processing power? |
| 19:56.43 | tombs | DataBeaver: are you talking to me? |
| 19:57.56 | DataBeaver | Yeah |
| 19:58.43 | tombs | but the issue about proc power is clear right? 312 against 416 Mhz |
| 19:59.17 | tombs | or do I have to consider the factory difference as well? |
| 20:02.07 | mmp | tombs: the fact is that ARMs usually execute 1 instruction per clock; the difference can be in the instruction executed. |
| 20:02.19 | mmp | but that's just another point of view. |
| 20:02.56 | mmp | I don't know if there are any differences in instruction set, so I might be totally wrong. |
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| 20:04.00 | tombs | mmp: it makes me want to collect a T5 |
| 20:06.58 | mmp | tombs: I don't really know; it was just a point that there can also be a difference... :) |
| 20:07.44 | tombs | but T5 don't have wifi |
| 20:07.50 | tombs | only bluetooth |
| 20:10.22 | DataBeaver | Well, that's why AMD had to introduce the speed rating numbers. Intel CPUs had more megahertz, so people bought them despite them being slower on same clock. |
| 20:10.45 | DataBeaver | And again, not every released device needs to have the most powerful CPU available. |
| 20:12.20 | florian | hey Skyhusker |
| 20:12.25 | Skyhusker | hey florian |
| 20:12.49 | florian | Skyhusker: i havn't seen you for a while... how are you? |
| 20:13.18 | Skyhusker | florian, busier than i'd like, but everything else is fine :) |
| 20:13.23 | Skyhusker | how about you? |
| 20:13.31 | florian | heh, i know this effect :-) |
| 20:14.02 | Skyhusker | btw, have you seen Mickey today? |
| 20:14.11 | tombs | ok guys |
| 20:14.19 | tombs | thanx for helping |
| 20:14.27 | tombs | :) |
| 20:14.33 | tombs | see you around |
| 20:15.44 | florian | Skyhusker: busy, but not that bad... i still have some time to do good stuff :) |
| 20:15.57 | florian | Skyhusker: hmm no, not today |
| 20:16.38 | Skyhusker | btw, weren't you the mentor for someone writing a network daemon for gpe? |
| 20:17.26 | florian | yep, mmp is doing the network framework |
| 20:18.08 | Skyhusker | that's an interesting project |
| 20:18.10 | mmp | Skyhusker: I'm porting the GNOME NetworkManager; now I'm just going to test the applet on my PDA |
| 20:18.23 | Skyhusker | i'm looking forward to use it :) |
| 20:18.25 | Skyhusker | mmp, nice work |
| 20:18.28 | mmp | And praying that it will work:) |
| 20:18.54 | mmp | and that I will able to debug it |
| 20:18.56 | Skyhusker | france, I've just remembered I needed to talk you abut my cvs access. may I msg? |
| 20:19.13 | Skyhusker | mmp, good luck :) |
| 20:19.26 | mmp | Skyhusker: thanks a lot:) |
| 20:19.32 | Skyhusker | :) |
| 20:19.37 | Skyhusker | mmp, what model is it? |
| 20:19.45 | mmp | h5550 |
| 20:19.52 | mmp | at76c503 berlios driver |
| 20:20.13 | Skyhusker | mmp, florian and me had a really hard time debugging prismstumbler with that device |
| 20:20.30 | Skyhusker | in fact, we couldn't make it work very well... |
| 20:20.48 | florian | indeed... |
| 20:20.56 | mmp | I can imagine... it will be fun to get it working with NM; but I hope I'll do it somehow |
| 20:21.11 | mmp | At least, after that I can spam berlios developers with bugreports:) |
| 20:21.12 | Skyhusker | i hope i have some time to look at prismtumbler when SoC ends |
| 20:21.29 | mmp | Skyhusker: what is your project? Or you are a mentor? |
| 20:21.40 | florian | Skyhusker: i tried again some time ago without much luck. |
| 20:21.41 | Skyhusker | mmp, I'm writing and audio player |
| 20:21.52 | Skyhusker | florian, maybe it's more a kernel task |
| 20:22.23 | mmp | Skyhusker: Thats very nice too:) I will be gladly the betatester:) |
| 20:24.21 | Skyhusker | sorry, i was at phone |
| 20:24.49 | Skyhusker | mmp, it's already working, it only misses the lastfm bits |
| 20:24.55 | Skyhusker | i'll add then rsn |
| 20:25.01 | Skyhusker | s/then/them/ |
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| 20:25.21 | florian | Skyhusker: might be possible.. the scanning code was close to the iwlist code, but maybe it is because of frequent call of that function |
| 20:26.02 | florian | i should trigger a release.... |
| 20:28.01 | Skyhusker | florian, i've bought a hx4700 and i'll test prismtumbler on it as soon as i have time |
| 20:28.20 | florian | Skyhusker: ah cool, that's a nice one |
| 20:28.25 | Skyhusker | i haven't installed linux yet, it's been collecting dust for two months |
| 20:28.28 | Skyhusker | haven't had time yet :( |
| 20:28.43 | florian | Skyhusker: how is your soc project going? |
| 20:29.06 | Skyhusker | florian, i've implemented the gstreamer wrapper, the interface and the lyrics engine |
| 20:29.14 | Skyhusker | the lastfm protocol is on the way |
| 20:29.23 | Skyhusker | is the last missing task |
| 20:29.39 | florian | Skyhusker: sounds cool - do you have a cvs account yet? |
| 20:29.51 | florian | france: do you have a minute? |
| 20:29.57 | Skyhusker | florian, yes, but i can't commit to gpe/ |
| 20:32.39 | florian | Skyhusker: hrm nasty, what's your user name? |
| 20:32.50 | Skyhusker | skyhusker |
| 20:34.10 | florian | i see... i suppose you need to be in proj_gpe |
| 20:34.44 | Skyhusker | drwxrwsr-x 11 mallum proj_gpe 129 Dec 6 2005 /home/cvs/gpe/ |
| 20:34.49 | Skyhusker | it seems so :) |
| 20:34.58 | florian | eh?! |
| 20:35.21 | Skyhusker | i'll need to be in proj_gpe to commit to gpe/ you were right :) |
| 20:35.21 | florian | why is mallum owner of the gpe cvs? |
| 20:35.39 | Skyhusker | i've no idea, i've ls'ed -ald |
| 20:36.37 | florian | hrm... what a pain. |
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| 20:38.52 | florian | hi toi |
| 20:39.12 | florian | Skyhusker: did you ask france about it lately? |
| 20:39.23 | toi | Hi florian |
| 20:39.41 | Skyhusker | florian, no |
| 20:40.18 | Skyhusker | florian, hi was looking at irc an hour ago |
| 20:40.25 | florian | Skyhusker: i'll send him a mail... so that he doesn't need to ask if it is ok to give you access. |
| 20:40.28 | Skyhusker | but unfortuntelly, i was afk in that moment |
| 20:40.43 | Skyhusker | [21:27] france_Skyhusker: hi |
| 20:40.48 | Skyhusker | france_, ping |
| 20:41.09 | florian | Skyhusker: yeah, i tried to catch him on irc several times lately... |
| 20:58.37 | Skyhusker | gn8 |
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| 21:32.23 | mmp | good night |
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