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| 07:57.19 | jonor | Morning folks, |
| 07:57.43 | jonor | with the help I got here last week, I managed to get openembedded to 'bitbake' |
| 07:58.04 | jonor | i.e. I got to build nano on the development tree |
| 07:59.06 | jonor | Now, I'm not clear of how to target a specific device/version |
| 07:59.55 | jonor | or even which version I should target |
| 08:00.07 | jonor | ie. familiar 8.2/8.3 or 8.4 |
| 08:00.41 | jonor | Any suggestions? |
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| 08:04.52 | XorA | jonor: familiar X is handled by the oz354fam83 branch if I recall |
| 08:05.18 | XorA | jonor: on .dev you need to to target familiar-unstable |
| 08:06.15 | jonor | on .dev I was able to get it to build, but I couldn't use the ipk as it was pulling in conflicting libraries so I thought then that the smartest thing to do would be to target either 8.2 or 8.4-rc2 and ask on here :) |
| 08:20.08 | jonor | I'll toddle off to the familiar channel as its a familiar specific question |
| 08:32.37 | _law_ | CoreDump|afk, i have changed gpe-login stuff, if you wanna test :-) |
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| 09:20.37 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:33.24 | hrw|work | hi florian_kc |
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| 09:39.28 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
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| 10:16.37 | XorA | _law_: what happened to tinymail? |
| 10:16.50 | _law_ | XorA, ? |
| 10:16.57 | _law_ | XorA, whats the problem? |
| 10:17.07 | XorA | _law_: its no longer the right svn address in recipe |
| 10:17.21 | _law_ | XorA, ah they changed the url... |
| 10:18.09 | _law_ | XorA, http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2006/07/06/the-subversion-location-of-tinymail-moves-to-tinymailorg |
| 10:18.40 | _law_ | XorA, perhaps you could change this |
| 10:18.44 | XorA | _law_: ah cool, I shall fix that then |
| 10:18.57 | XorA | when I get OE in a buildable state again :-( |
| 10:19.37 | _law_ | XorA, https://svn.tinymail.org/svn/tinymail/trunk/README there is an gpe build option |
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| 10:20.58 | XorA | _law_: cool, and supports gtkhtml |
| 10:21.24 | XorA | now I just need a d20 character editor/manager for GPE |
| 10:21.37 | XorA | so if someone has one in their pocket, fess up |
| 10:22.42 | _law_ | XorA, d20 editor? |
| 10:22.51 | XorA | _law_: Advanced Dungeons and Dragons |
| 10:23.01 | _law_ | XorA, :-) |
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| 11:32.07 | JAV | hello |
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| 15:28.17 | florian_kc | neal: I'm just building gpe-calendar for iPAQ... i ran into an issue with g_object_add_toggle_ref which seems to need glib 2.8... can we replace this to be backward compatible easily? |
| 15:28.28 | neal | hmm. |
| 15:28.35 | neal | that's quite unfortunate. |
| 15:29.38 | neal | what version of glib do you use on the ipaq? |
| 15:30.03 | florian_kc | 2.6.x at the moment... |
| 15:30.18 | neal | and there is no desire to go to 2.8? |
| 15:30.21 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:30.30 | neal | you should be able to use 2.8 and stay with gtk 2.6 |
| 15:30.34 | neal | I think that is what maemo has. |
| 15:31.02 | florian_kc | yes right, that might be an option... |
| 15:31.07 | florian_kc | hi CoreDump|home |
| 15:31.26 | zecke | florian_kc: is nils online? |
| 15:31.38 | neal | the caching model has a strong dependency on the toggle code. |
| 15:32.03 | neal | and if you want to get gpe-today working again, you want the slightly more cache coherent stuff. |
| 15:32.04 | CoreDump|home | _law_: sure thing |
| 15:32.16 | florian_kc | zecke: not sure, but i can make sure that this happens... which protocol do you prefer? |
| 15:32.34 | zecke | florian_kc: oh well, I could just mail :) |
| 15:32.50 | florian_kc | zecke: okay |
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| 15:33.15 | florian_kc | neal: good point... i should take a look at this. |
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| 16:04.56 | florian_kc | neal: I just got a mail from someone using gpe-calendar on his 770. He seems to be really happy with it - good work :-) |
| 16:06.08 | neal | great. |
| 16:06.36 | neal | can I see it? |
| 16:09.25 | florian_kc | hmm... not easily, that mentions other stuff as well. |
| 16:09.34 | neal | ok, nevermind. |
| 16:10.56 | florian_kc | He had one idea for improvement: If only one calendar is active it should be the default for a new entry... |
| 16:11.11 | neal | that's not a bad idea. |
| 16:12.46 | florian_kc | Yeah... i ran into this some time ago... it was confused my new appointment didn't show up :-) |
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| 16:38.00 | _law_ | CoreDump|home: mom i?ll post the new patch |
| 16:38.22 | CoreDump|home | great =) |
| 16:39.25 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-login/ |
| 16:39.36 | _law_ | CoreDump|home: x-window-manager script is also new |
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| 16:39.57 | _law_ | CoreDump|home: you have do create a /etc/windowmanagers.d dir |
| 16:40.51 | _law_ | CoreDump|home: and link /usr/bin/fluxbox-gpe-session and /usr/bin/matchbox-session into it |
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| 17:05.15 | CoreDump|home | _law_: hmmmmm I'm running into problems, d/l'ed new x-window-manager, linked session scripts to /etc/windowmanagers.s but the selected scipt isn't run |
| 17:06.20 | CoreDump|home | meh, used the wrong patch |
| 17:09.58 | CoreDump|home | _law_: yay, it works =) |
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| 17:19.32 | florian_kc | ibot: seen reenoo? |
| 17:19.48 | ibot | reenoo <n=r@p5489E868.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 8d 20h 33m 17s ago, saying: 'nah, this is interesting as well. it's just a bit tricky to do assignments designed for two weeks time in like three days...'. |
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| 17:20.09 | florian_kc | hi mmp |
| 17:20.39 | emte | trying to work around a zenity script issue |
| 17:20.47 | mmp | florian_kc: hello |
| 17:20.54 | emte | mainly the fact that he didnt use --display= |
| 17:21.08 | emte | so it wont run as another user |
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| 17:33.52 | mmp | florian_kc: is it normal that OE doesn't clean already built sources? (so far I had to free tons of disk space, but it still eats another tons of it (I tried to compile minimo). |
| 17:35.06 | florian_kc | mmp: yes, that's normal... minimo is not that easy iirc, if you just need a small browser for testing use dillo or gpe-mini-browser |
| 17:36.23 | mmp | florian_kc: gpe-mini-browser is quite selective - is displays only some pages, as gnu.org, handhelds.org etc., but fails to display many others... . |
| 17:37.07 | florian_kc | mmp: it has problems with some charsets... e.g. it doesn't seem to like polish |
| 17:37.20 | mmp | uhh, just now my OE directory has 5.3GB :) |
| 17:37.36 | mmp | and I have just built dbus-1 and almost minimo... . |
| 17:38.04 | mmp | that's a bit too much - in oe wiki there are just 4GB for whole gpe image mentioned... . |
| 17:38.26 | florian_kc | heh |
| 17:38.44 | florian_kc | mmp: i can imagine minimo will eat up mich of space |
| 17:38.50 | mmp | CoreDump|home: optimism isn't the right way for me? |
| 17:39.07 | CoreDump|home | mmp: ;) |
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| 17:39.27 | mmp | hmm, ok, I'll stay with gpe-mini-browser for now... . |
| 17:40.28 | mmp | btw, is there any up-to-date unstable feed for familiar? (containing newer packages from OE) |
| 17:40.57 | florian_kc | not that i'm aware of :-( |
| 17:41.03 | CoreDump|home | I'm at ~35G ATM, 4 machines w/ seperate full meta-opie + meta-gpe + e17 builds |
| 17:41.11 | florian_kc | i just started to play with openzaurus on my ipaq |
| 17:42.18 | CoreDump|home | florian_kc: it shouldn't be very different from fam (yet) |
| 17:42.19 | mmp | hmm, I thought that openzaurus is just for zaurii (or how is it declined in latin:) |
| 17:43.13 | CoreDump|home | you can build the OZ distro for many devices ;) |
| 17:44.04 | mmp | CoreDump|home: :) Hmm, but why is it than called openzaurus? |
| 17:44.11 | emte | mmp, at this rate there wont be ... |
| 17:44.26 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home: that's true, but more people are working on it and some things are more up to date. |
| 17:44.53 | CoreDump|home | mmp: "openzaurus" is really just is a build target for OpenEmbedded. |
| 17:45.06 | CoreDump|home | florian_kc: i see |
| 17:45.20 | mmp | ...too :-) |
| 17:48.42 | emte | hmm, zenity is not very cross user friendly ... |
| 17:50.45 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:53.08 | CoreDump|home | _law_: The "Default" wm should probably not be hard-coded but just be another symlink in windowmanager.s. This would allo distros to set their own "default" va |
| 17:53.21 | CoreDump|home | via update-alternatives |
| 17:56.26 | CoreDump|home | also you could get rid of the "current" menu entry by just selcting the last used session-name ;) But what do i say, it's looking great as it is =) |
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| 18:26.41 | emte | reminds me |
| 18:26.55 | emte | anyone look at the cross-bug i filed? |
| 18:27.21 | emte | i would have filed it in GPE if it hadnt been for a release candidate |
| 18:29.51 | emte | after i tried to mistakenly assign it ro rene |
| 18:30.44 | emte | not sure why the interface would suddenly start crashing |
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| 18:56.03 | mimecar | evening |
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| 19:35.50 | _law_ | CoreDump|home: okay i?ll change this |
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| 20:29.32 | florian | re |
| 20:31.57 | JAV | hi florian |
| 20:32.03 | florian | hi JAV |
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| 20:55.56 | _law_|iBook | CoreDump|afk http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-login/wm_no_default.patch |
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