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| 06:03.48 | rob_w | moin moin |
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| 12:17.16 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 12:17.48 | pb__ | hi florian_kc |
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| 12:31.35 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 12:32.22 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 12:32.33 | reenoo | hi florian_kc |
| 12:33.31 | reenoo | florian_kc: what makes you believe having gpe-package-manager suid root is a good idea? |
| 12:34.21 | florian_kc | reenoo: that's how the thing is implemented. it forks and drops the privileges of the ui process. |
| 12:35.26 | florian_kc | reenoo: usually you don't want to introduce the need for unexperienced users to mess around with this. |
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| 12:36.37 | reenoo | well, does it do authentication on it own then? |
| 12:36.44 | reenoo | its even |
| 12:37.03 | pb__ | hi reenoo |
| 12:37.10 | reenoo | hey pb__ |
| 12:39.32 | florian_kc | reenoo: no, it doesn't cover this so far. a better solution would be to use sudo and a clever default configuration and some integration but we don't have this right now. |
| 12:40.03 | reenoo | florian_kc: I would have thought, this is the type of thing we have gpe-su for |
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| 12:42.15 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 12:42.28 | reenoo | florian_kc: IOW, we have too many suid root binaries already, I'm not going to add another one |
| 12:42.32 | florian_kc | hi JAV |
| 12:42.34 | reenoo | hey JAV |
| 12:43.02 | florian_kc | reenoo: that's your choice |
| 12:43.59 | florian_kc | reenoo: in this case please close that bug as "wontfix" and add a useful description. |
| 12:44.33 | reenoo | florian_kc: why? what's the problem with using gpe-su? |
| 12:44.52 | florian_kc | But that indicates that we run into upstream vs packaging bugs over and over. |
| 12:46.09 | florian_kc | reenoo: I don't get the point asking users for the password over and over even if they are working alone on their device. |
| 12:47.05 | florian_kc | You can't configure gpe-su not to ask for the password - if we can do that i'd be very happy to use it for this purpose. |
| 12:47.16 | reenoo | I'm sorry I can't follow you any more |
| 12:48.25 | florian_kc | If you want a clean solution for access permissions you'd need to change way more than gpe-package. |
| 12:49.04 | reenoo | one of the claimed advantages of GPE over the rest of the world is multi-user support and a clean root vs. regular user separation |
| 12:49.35 | reenoo | allowing users to install/remove packages without prompting for a password kind of nullifies that point |
| 12:49.56 | florian_kc | Right - but as long as we don't have a better mechanism i think we can live with that. |
| 12:51.53 | florian_kc | I'd be really happy about some ideas for a better solution so that both users and developers are happy, but someon actually needs to care about that. |
| 12:54.25 | florian_kc | I think we (that means both Familiar and GPE) have way more important thigns to do that discussing about this stupid binary. |
| 12:56.26 | reenoo | well, users tend to expect a graphical package manager to work. so, I'd definitely like to fix that bug |
| 12:59.13 | reenoo | and I'd like to avoid the negative publicity that follows a "security breach" |
| 13:00.56 | reenoo | later all |
| 13:01.28 | zecke | reenoo|afk: cya |
| 13:02.24 | florian_kc | reenoo|afk: maybe send me patch against the upstream thing, that would be cleverer than fixing this in the distribution. |
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| 14:50.30 | florian_kc | jpetersen: hi |
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| 15:03.44 | jpetersen | hi florian_kc |
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| 15:17.54 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:27.37 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home: hi |
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| 16:07.26 | florian_kc | hi law|home |
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| 16:09.38 | florian_kc | hey mallum |
| 16:09.51 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
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| 16:28.35 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 16:29.18 | Philippe | hi florian_kc |
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| 18:23.57 | reenoo | re |
| 18:24.33 | florian_kc | reenoo: wb |
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| 19:20.12 | bedboi | hi there |
| 19:21.49 | florian_kc | hey bedboi |
| 19:25.08 | bedboi | hi there florian_kc |
| 19:25.54 | bedboi | i'm just arrived home after a long trip across europe (paris, porto, lisboa, coimbra, santiago, ferrol) |
| 19:27.24 | florian_kc | bedboi: sounds like fun |
| 19:27.50 | bedboi | yep, mostly |
| 19:27.52 | bedboi | :) |
| 19:28.30 | bedboi | i was in paris visiting my girlfriend then quite all other city i visited were for work |
| 19:29.55 | bedboi | my ipaq is still in dead state :( |
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| 19:30.07 | bedboi | that's too bad |
| 19:30.18 | bedboi | any progress with gpe on n770? |
| 19:30.54 | florian_kc | not really, i built an updated image but no real work... |
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| 19:46.32 | calamari | hi |
| 19:49.01 | calamari | just stopped in to provide some feedback on your logo. I didn't know what the logo was at first.. it looked like gnome with an extra claw or something, wasn't sure until I'd read the site. I realize what confused me: the thumb is sticking straight out. I'd recommend angling the thumb up, then I would have understood the logo immediately. just a thought |
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| 19:58.01 | florian | re |
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| 20:41.33 | florian | yep |
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| 21:40.59 | Philippe | night all |
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