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| 05:23.25 | emte | thunk |
| 05:23.29 | emte | whi is nice? |
| 05:23.32 | emte | who* |
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| 05:24.49 | Jason_Foss | The PCMCIA card admin program thing...does anyone know how to load that through the console? |
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| 09:09.06 | uv1 | Morning |
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| 09:18.48 | uv1 | Just startet to build a fresh gpe-image (familiar-unstable). That wants to build a i686 "qemu-qop-nogfx-native-0.8.0+svn20060401-r0", which itsefl wants to build a doc package containing html and man doc. This needs texi2html, which is not available on my host ... |
| 09:18.56 | uv1 | Question is do we need qemu stuff (what for) for i686 and if, do we need the doc package ? |
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| 09:39.14 | pb_ | florian: good morning |
| 09:39.32 | pb_ | uv1: you do need qemu, but you don't need the docs |
| 09:43.46 | univac | what are you using to compile gpe apps? |
| 09:43.48 | univac | oe-sdk? |
| 09:43.59 | univac | http://handhelds.org/~florian/sdk/oe-sdk-20060304232054.tar.bz2 |
| 09:44.28 | florian | good morning |
| 09:45.21 | univac | Hi. |
| 09:46.21 | univac | hm |
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| 09:57.47 | neal | florian: any reaction to http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1528 ? |
| 10:27.04 | uv1 | pb_: Why do we need qemu here. I see, that qemu-arm is in the top list and takes lots of cpu time during build. |
| 10:27.54 | pb_ | uv1: because your i686 host can't execute arm code without it. |
| 10:28.46 | uv1 | pb_: Why do we need to execute arm code then during build ? |
| 10:29.12 | pb_ | Because that's the only way to generate some of the required files. |
| 10:30.21 | uv1 | pb_: Ok, so how to fix the docs issue ? Should'nt we apply a patch to reduce build-time and requires SW packages ? |
| 10:31.13 | pb_ | I don't quite understand your second sentence there. But yes, you should feel free to patch the qemu build to not generate the documentation. |
| 10:33.30 | uv1 | pb_: s/requires/required/ : I mean not to force users to install texi2html (for example) on their box ... |
| 10:34.02 | pb_ | Okay. Yeah, removing the requirement for texi2html would be a fine idea. |
| 10:34.05 | uv1 | Ok I'll see what I can do to provide the patch. Should I put it into OE bugzilla ? |
| 10:34.09 | pb_ | Yes, please. |
| 10:48.05 | uv1 | pb_: What to do with the changed qemu-qop-nogfx-native_svn.bb. Provide the file or a patch ? What to do with the other qemu files ? |
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| 11:23.41 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 11:26.36 | tubbie|home | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 12:06.37 | uv1 | package linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11-r0: task do_fetch: failed ;-) Any ideas ? |
| 12:08.26 | pb_ | I guess you have to take that up with the crazy jlime guys. |
| 12:11.49 | uv1 | pb_: Where can I find them ? |
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| 12:32.19 | uv1 | pb_: Just provided the qemu nodocs patch (ID 801). Could you pleas check it in ? |
| 12:34.34 | pb_ | no; I don't have the ability to check patches in to oe. But maybe you could persuade zecke to do so. |
| 12:35.05 | pb_ | as for jlime, I guess www.jlime.com would be the place |
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| 13:08.29 | neal | anyone know how to get the number of items in a GtkComboBox? |
| 13:12.39 | pb_ | neal: GtkComboBox uses a GtkTreeModel to hold the data, so you'd need to check the accessor functions for the latter. |
| 13:14.04 | pb_ | from a quick look at the documentation, it sounds like gtk_tree_model_iter_n_children (gtk_combo_box_get_model (...), NULL) is what you need. |
| 13:15.24 | neal | thanks. |
| 13:15.42 | neal | since you're here, I have question I'd like an opinion on: |
| 13:16.20 | neal | GtkDateSel provides arrows to move one unit in the past or future |
| 13:17.01 | neal | I've changed it to provide a combobox instead of a label for months |
| 13:17.14 | neal | this is a good usability increase. |
| 13:17.39 | neal | I'm debating whether to use comboboxes in place of labels for days, weeks and years as well. |
| 13:17.54 | neal | with days, it doesn't make that much sense: |
| 13:17.58 | neal | there is the calendar on the right |
| 13:18.06 | pb_ | yeah |
| 13:18.10 | neal | with weeks, again, there are normally 53 weeks in a year |
| 13:18.17 | neal | so just too many choices |
| 13:18.23 | neal | for years, again, way too much |
| 13:18.30 | pb_ | it might make sense to provide an editable field for days, rather than just a fixed label, but I don't think a combo would buy much |
| 13:18.31 | pb_ | same for years |
| 13:18.32 | neal | perhaps for years, a text input would make sense. |
| 13:18.46 | pb_ | right |
| 13:18.55 | neal | great. |
| 13:19.00 | neal | I'll do that. |
| 13:19.04 | pb_ | cool |
| 13:19.22 | neal | pb: also, any reaction to http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1528 ? |
| 13:23.53 | pb_ | looks good to me |
| 13:23.57 | pb_ | do you want me to check that in? |
| 13:24.02 | neal | sure. |
| 13:24.27 | neal | I feel it is ready for check in. |
| 13:24.59 | pb_ | okay, great |
| 13:25.03 | neal | But as far as I've understood it so far, you and florian handle that code. |
| 13:25.03 | pb_ | I'll check it in very shortly |
| 13:25.08 | neal | no rush. |
| 13:28.55 | CoreDump|home | dmesg is throwing: Alignment trap: keylaunch (2789) PC=0x4019d134 Instr=0xe5903004 Address=0x0001a35d Code 0x00 |
| 13:29.14 | CoreDump|home | is that a cause for concern? |
| 13:47.00 | pb_ | concern, but not panic |
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| 14:24.54 | CoreDump|home | florian: ping |
| 14:25.24 | CoreDump|home | pb_: phew =) |
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| 17:06.24 | neal | why is cvs.handhelds.org so slow? |
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| 17:17.58 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:19.35 | pont_ | hello |
| 17:20.01 | reenoo | hi pont_ |
| 17:40.00 | CSMan | in a build system like monotone, how do I deal with INCLUDE files that are not currently installed, but are available in packages previously built ? |
| 17:40.07 | CSMan | s/monotone/bitbake |
| 17:40.35 | reenoo | CSMan: #oe |
| 17:40.52 | CSMan | k |
| 17:41.14 | pont_ | hmm perhaps a stupid question but Tungstan T can you run X windows on it. |
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| 18:18.20 | wiselynx | and, other issue, multisync? |
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| 19:36.48 | flo_770 | Hi all |
| 19:38.10 | neal | moin, moin |
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| 19:39.24 | neal | flo_770 : Why are cvs.handhelds.org and bugzilla *so* slow? |
| 19:39.40 | neal | flo_770 : Are they running on an iPaq :-) |
| 19:41.54 | flo_770 | neal, heh |
| 19:42.24 | flo_770 | Uh... Another crappy default :/ |
| 19:42.37 | neal | flo_770 : Hmm? |
| 19:44.25 | flo_770 | neal: not really, the ipaq cluster is still down... hh.org faces this effect for quite some time now :( |
| 19:44.48 | flo_770 | neal: the "," |
| 19:45.05 | neal | there is really an ipaq cluster? |
| 19:46.49 | flo_770 | neal: yes, search the website for skiffcluster |
| 19:47.00 | neal | neat. |
| 19:47.34 | flo_770 | In fact this is a pile of public development machines |
| 19:48.07 | flo_770 | But down for quite some time now :( |
| 19:57.23 | flo_770 | Bbl |
| 20:03.09 | zecke | neal: george said, google, yahoo.com, ask.com... are indexing hh.org |
| 20:03.40 | neal | zecke: And that is why bugzilla is slow? |
| 20:03.57 | neal | zecke: Or are you saying I should use google or something? |
| 20:04.14 | zecke | neal: that is why everything is slow |
| 20:04.25 | zecke | neal: both bandwidth and cpu is utilized by these search engines ATM |
| 20:04.39 | neal | I see. |
| 20:05.01 | neal | anyways, it's annoying |
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| 20:28.44 | reenoo | neal: try anoncvs.handhelds.org |
| 20:29.05 | neal | same paths? |
| 20:29.16 | neal | I'm off for the evening. |
| 20:29.20 | reenoo | should be, yeah |
| 20:29.21 | neal | later. |
| 20:29.26 | reenoo | later neal |
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