| 00:30.00 | florian | good night |
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| 01:28.23 | champ | time to check my crack house |
| 01:43.39 | Jason_Foss | Anyone alive? |
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| 08:50.11 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:03.38 | jurop88 | hi all |
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| 09:19.22 | XorA | is it my imagination, or is the wearable wrist PC running GPE? |
| 09:25.09 | koen | 23:13 < koen> http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/eurotech_wearable.jpg |
| 09:25.09 | koen | 23:14 * koen spots gpe-contacts on that screenshot |
| 09:25.41 | koen | it seems we're both imagining it :) |
| 09:27.43 | XorA | koen: make that device a little sleeker and Id buy it if it can play divx |
| 09:48.40 | _guillermo | that loks like gpe to me |
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| 10:38.49 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:42.17 | france | morning |
| 10:43.38 | florian_kc | hi france |
| 10:44.10 | france | florian_kc: hi |
| 10:50.03 | florian_kc | france: i just showed up in the office... you are early! |
| 10:50.26 | france | florian_kc: been waking up at 3:30 am the past few days... don't know why... |
| 10:50.39 | france | florian_kc: perfect time to do security updates.... |
| 10:50.55 | florian_kc | france: Thats a time i wake up too... but i know why ;-) |
| 10:51.09 | france | florian_kc: lol |
| 11:20.04 | jurop88 | are there any plans to do some gpe - phone integration? (gpe-gnokii?) |
| 11:23.12 | florian_kc | jurop88: That kind of things would rock, i think about adding a small opensync gui to sync gpe with a cellphone. |
| 11:23.51 | florian_kc | jurop88: some dialup tool for ir and bluetooth might be another good idea... |
| 11:26.18 | jurop88 | i just thought to 2 user button: 1 to let the phone to call the number currently selected... |
| 11:26.53 | jurop88 | and another to start a procedure that transfer (or syncs) the number in the contacts with the cellphone memory |
| 11:27.17 | jurop88 | on N770 i already installed gnokii and had success to let my nokia phone to make a call via BT |
| 11:27.52 | jurop88 | now I thought to study some gnokii libraries in order to let the call start from gpe-contacts... |
| 11:28.11 | jurop88 | but I think that my final solution will be too much platform-specific (N770 to Nokia phones) |
| 11:28.25 | jurop88 | but it's what I need :) |
| 11:32.22 | florian_kc | jurop88: oh cool! |
| 11:33.01 | florian_kc | jurop88: if the communication with the phone is working the gpe part should be easy. |
| 11:37.57 | _law_ | jurop88, i build an gnokii sms gui |
| 11:38.27 | _law_ | if i find some time i?ll build an gpe-phone-manager... |
| 11:38.42 | _law_ | done some tests with gammu and gnokii |
| 11:39.42 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/%7Epat/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/port.6635.png |
| 11:41.32 | jurop88 | I have to thank pkot that gave me the right pointings... I gave him some feedback on a phone that he did'nt had in his DB, that's opensource! |
| 11:43.16 | jurop88 | _law_law_: I tested something found on ITT but it didn't worked for me... I gave a look to that screenshot and it's not what I as speaking about |
| 11:44.09 | florian_kc | _law_: hmm... is there a release of this already? |
| 11:44.33 | _law_ | florian_kc, no not yet |
| 11:45.23 | _law_ | florian_kc, had to finish network-profiles + mb-applet-network-profiles first |
| 11:46.20 | florian_kc | _law_: looks we need to add some stuff to oe soon :-) |
| 11:46.43 | florian_kc | france: what's up with ftp.handhelds.org? |
| 11:47.23 | _law_ | florian_kc, :-) did you do something with keylaunch? |
| 11:47.30 | pb__ | florian_kc: is anything up with it? it seems to be okay for me. |
| 11:48.56 | _law_ | here is a screen of the latest mb-applet-network-profiles app http://handhelds.org/scap/land.19161.png |
| 11:49.31 | florian_kc | pb__: my oe just sat there waiting for it... |
| 11:49.45 | pb__ | oh, strange |
| 11:50.14 | jurop88 | _law_:the image cannot be displayed because it contains errors (your last msg link) |
| 11:50.22 | florian_kc | i remember i had the same problem yesterday... |
| 11:51.02 | _law_ | jurop88, works fine here. |
| 11:51.17 | florian_kc | _law_: I fixed the keylaunch issue, but upating keylaunchrc and key-command s is necessary. |
| 11:52.16 | _law_ | florian_kc, so i would be a nice time to look at my altgr patch there is also a updated keylaunchrc required :-) |
| 11:53.45 | _law_ | florian_kc, new gpe-filemanager.. nice |
| 11:55.18 | florian_kc | _law_: right... |
| 11:56.06 | france | florian_kc: it is working for me but emte said something was wrong with ftp.handhelds.org |
| 11:56.38 | france | florian_kc: aslo I am running ftptop and I see 3 users 2 downloading 1 idle |
| 11:56.50 | france | florian_kc: what issue are you seeing? |
| 11:57.53 | france | florian_kc: it is hard for me to fix, when it works for me. Are you having issues? |
| 11:59.29 | florian_kc | france: Both yesterday and today the oe ftp fetcher tried to get a package from it and just sat there waiting endless. i stopped both after some minutes... |
| 12:00.49 | france | florian_kc: what is the oe fetcher using for the url , and what ip are u pulling from so i can check the logs |
| 12:01.06 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.06 | france | Connected to h2.handhelds.org. |
| 12:01.07 | france | 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Handhelds.org's - Anonymous FTP Server) [128.31.0.22] |
| 12:01.07 | france | 500 AUTH not understood |
| 12:01.07 | france | KERBEROS_V4 rejected as an authentication type |
| 12:01.13 | france | Name (ftp.handhelds.org:france): anonymous |
| 12:01.15 | france | 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password. |
| 12:01.17 | france | Password: |
| 12:01.19 | france | 230- Welcome to handhelds.org |
| 12:01.21 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.23 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.25 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.27 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.29 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.02 | florian_kc | http://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/projects/gpe/source/gpe-keylock-0.12.tar.gz was the last url |
| 12:05.41 | france | florian_kc: ahh, using the website to access ftp....different issue, not ftp://ftp.handheleds.org/.... |
| 12:06.10 | france | florian_kc: something must be wrong in apache land, thx for the hint.... |
| 12:07.06 | france | while I am looking at apache, try ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/projects/gpe/source/gpe-keylock-0.12.tar.gz |
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| 12:09.44 | france | florian_kc: I understand the issue, now there is no httpd server on the the box with ftp services. |
| 12:09.52 | france | florian_kc: making temp fix for you.......... |
| 12:11.17 | france | florian_kc: it will be fixed in 20 minutes.... |
| 12:11.18 | florian_kc | france: ah okay... looks like we should change this anyway. |
| 12:11.36 | france | florian_kc: nods, exactly.... |
| 12:11.59 | france | florian_kc: since, I moved ftp.handhelds.org to a different box to take the load off of h7 |
| 12:12.18 | france | florian_kc: www.hh.org and ftp.hh.org could be on different servers.... |
| 12:12.40 | france | florian_kc: I did a quick hack to fix things.... it will take 10 to 20 minutes for dns to propigate... |
| 12:12.47 | florian_kc | france: okay |
| 12:12.58 | florian_kc | hmm... looks like someone was faster... |
| 12:13.22 | france | florian_kc: I have an appointment, but when I get back, I will add an apache server to ftp.handhelds.org |
| 12:13.47 | florian_kc | france: the preferred location would be ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/projects/gpe/, right? |
| 12:14.14 | france | florian_kc: no /pub/ we removed that from the ftp site a while back |
| 12:14.45 | pb__ | Does that point to the same place as http://www.handhelds.org/pub/projects/? |
| 12:15.14 | france | pb__: exatly |
| 12:15.40 | france | pb__: jamey change the ftp server but it looks like did not update apache conf files. |
| 12:16.06 | pb__ | ah right |
| 12:16.09 | france | pb__: so http://www.handhleds.org/pub/projects is ftp://ftp.handhels.org/projects |
| 12:16.26 | pb__ | florian_kc: I guess the ideal thing for oe would be to have some ${HANDHELDS_MIRROR} variable that users can set according to their preference. |
| 12:16.37 | pb__ | with the default being either http://www.handhelds.org/pub/projects/ or ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects |
| 12:17.06 | pb__ | http is probably a bit more likely to go through firewalls and things, so I guess that should be the first choice |
| 12:17.39 | france | pb__: I can also add an apache server to the ftp server box, so http://ftp.handhels.org works |
| 12:17.48 | pb__ | that would be ideal |
| 12:18.05 | france | pb__: that is probably what you really want, either ftp://ftp.handhelds.org or http://ftp.handhelds.org |
| 12:18.32 | france | pb__: as there is no quarentee, that www.handhelds.org and ftp.handhelds.org will be the same boxes... |
| 12:18.40 | florian_kc | now i don't even get a ftp connection to the ftp server :-/ |
| 12:20.05 | france | florian_kc: ok, here is what we will do (best of both worlds): |
| 12:20.19 | france | florian_kc: I will setup apache on ftp.handhelds.org - |
| 12:20.47 | france | florian_kc: users will then be able to utilize ftp://ftp.handhelds.org or http://ftp.handhelds.org |
| 12:21.20 | france | for apache I will make http://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/projects work and http://ftp.handhelds.org/projects |
| 12:21.28 | france | so we can ween folks off of the /pub/ |
| 12:21.29 | pb__ | france: right |
| 12:21.37 | france | make sense??? |
| 12:21.37 | pb__ | france: thanks |
| 12:21.41 | pb__ | yup, sounds great |
| 12:21.56 | france | pb__: thanks... (only wish that I had know sooner it was broken) |
| 12:22.27 | france | florian_kc: you should be working again? |
| 12:23.34 | france | I have to head out the door, for a meeting, it will be about 1.5 hours before I can install apache so figure about 3 worst case. |
| 12:23.48 | florian_kc | "wget ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects/gpe/source/gpe-keylock-0.12.tar.gz" just sits there... |
| 12:24.06 | france | florian_kc: I just changed the dns give it a minute.... |
| 12:24.30 | france | florian_kc: undoing my hack... |
| 12:24.59 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.10 | france | florian_kc: that works (from the hack) |
| 12:25.26 | france | florian_kc: ftp://ftp.handhelds.org should be fixed in a minute. |
| 12:25.29 | florian_kc | france: ok |
| 12:26.26 | france | florian_kc: so while I am at my meeting if you need ot get work done use |
| 12:26.35 | france | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.58 | france | florian_kc: the ftp files are on all 3 servers... |
| 12:27.34 | france | but the correct long term solution is adding apache to ftp.handhelds.org |
| 12:28.14 | france | does ftp://ftp.handhelds.org work for you now? |
| 12:28.22 | france | before I run out the door??? |
| 12:28.25 | rob_w|mis | pb__, gtk_main_iteration_do is crap |
| 12:28.39 | pb__ | rob_w|mis: that is unfortunate |
| 12:28.51 | rob_w|mis | it fill the cpu quite quick |
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| 12:29.25 | pb__ | are you just calling it in a tight loop? |
| 12:29.29 | pb__ | that would certainly consume a lot of cpu time |
| 12:30.09 | rob_w|mis | yes |
| 12:30.23 | pb__ | right, that is a bad plan |
| 12:30.40 | jg | morning pb__: |
| 12:30.45 | pb__ | hi jg |
| 12:30.53 | rob_w|mis | so g_idle would be a better choice ? |
| 12:31.54 | rob_w|mis | so how can i inject into gtk_main some functions which will run some 200ms |
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| 12:32.30 | pb__ | http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-The-Main-Event-Loop.html#g-timeout-add |
| 12:32.42 | rob_w|mis | thanks |
| 12:33.40 | pb__ | but, if the 200ms is a hard deadline and you can't tolerate lateness, you will need to use a completely separate thread. |
| 12:33.44 | rob_w|mis | let me ghis this a try |
| 12:34.04 | rob_w|mis | now that is not hard ,, just to get some smooth value updates |
| 12:34.05 | pb__ | gtk doesn't make any guarantees about its latency, so your callbacks could be delayed for arbitrary amounts of time if something else is happening |
| 12:34.12 | pb__ | ah, okay |
| 12:34.14 | pb__ | that should be fine then |
| 12:34.33 | rob_w|mis | ive a plain c deamon .. which i also need to boost more but it is already speedy enough |
| 12:35.18 | france | florian_kc: ftp.handhelds.org is working for me. is it working for you? |
| 12:36.23 | florian_kc | france: not yet |
| 12:37.10 | france | florian_kc: nflookup ftp.handhelds.org? |
| 12:37.21 | france | nslookup |
| 12:37.24 | france | or dig, etc.. |
| 12:40.27 | florian_kc | 128.31.0.22, h2 |
| 12:40.48 | france | florian_kc: ok, try ftp ftp.handhelds.org |
| 12:40.57 | florian_kc | now it works |
| 12:41.05 | france | florian_kc: :-D |
| 12:41.31 | france | florian_kc: I am going to be a bit late, gotta run... will install apache when I get back... |
| 12:41.44 | france | florian_kc: you should be back to normal in about 3 hours... |
| 12:43.31 | jg | moning france |
| 12:43.40 | france | jg: morning... |
| 12:43.52 | france | jg: gotta run...cya..lunch later in the week? |
| 12:45.31 | jg | france: yes, let's lunch. |
| 12:48.19 | florian_kc | lunch... good idea! |
| 12:48.21 | florian_kc | brb |
| 12:55.15 | rob_w|mis | ah that looks nice |
| 12:55.35 | rob_w|mis | err , why is not call repeatly on my mips .. but on x86 ?? |
| 12:56.44 | rob_w|mis | ah now |
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| 13:09.40 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 13:13.38 | pH5 | hey koen |
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| 13:16.24 | rob_w|mis | hmm gtk_label_set_text eats me up .. why ? |
| 13:17.23 | rob_w|mis | is that normal is that as i need to lookup_widget my label ? |
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| 13:53.00 | florian_kc | re |
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| 14:04.52 | france_ | re-hi |
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| 14:07.52 | florian_kc | _law_: I have an idea about your backlight script - please verify if it works if you replace the "corgi_bl" by a "*" in the pathes to the sysfs locations. |
| 14:07.58 | florian_kc | france: wb |
| 14:08.26 | france_ | florian_kc: thx... |
| 14:08.53 | france_ | florian_kc: installing apache2...once all this infrastuct stuff is done, I think we will be set for the next 3-5 years. |
| 14:10.35 | _law_ | florian_kc, why? |
| 14:10.54 | _law_ | ah so it works on other devices? |
| 14:10.56 | florian_kc | france_: still using mandrake? |
| 14:11.03 | florian_kc | _law_: that's the theory... |
| 14:15.44 | _law_ | florian_kc, looks good |
| 14:16.52 | florian_kc | _law_: okay... lets hope i don't break too much now. |
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| 14:26.02 | france_ | florian_kc: its mandriva now... |
| 14:26.11 | france_ | florian_kc: too painful to change to something else.... |
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| 14:42.51 | france_ | florian_kc: from the early days, too many folks with "root" privs. It takes much longer to clean things up, than install from scrach... |
| 14:51.35 | florian_kc | france_: oh... |
| 14:51.59 | florian_kc | _law_: you forgot to increment some numbers in keylaunch.c :-) |
| 14:52.15 | france_ | florian_kc: that is what is taking so long to migrate stuff... like currently it appears that somebody edited the commonhttpd.conf file |
| 14:52.57 | france_ | florian_kc: on h7 which of course should never be edited, which is where the ftp stuff was setup..it should be in Vhost.conf |
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| 15:00.18 | _law_ | bbl |
| 15:16.54 | florian_kc | zecke: which zaurus model archs are clamshells? |
| 15:18.31 | coredump | So.... Anyone can tell me how I get Jornada 720 sound to work? |
| 15:18.37 | coredump | module is loaded, but I can't use it |
| 15:20.36 | zecke | florian_kc: dunno :} |
| 15:20.49 | zecke | florian_kc: all but SL-5xxx, SL-6000d? |
| 15:20.58 | zecke | florian_kc: and the A-300 wasn't a clamshell as well |
| 15:22.26 | florian_kc | zecke: i need the machine definitions in oe, not collie but corgi and shepherd - which else? |
| 15:23.29 | zecke | tosa is sl-6000d |
| 15:24.15 | florian_kc | thats the vga portrait one, right? |
| 15:25.17 | florian_kc | Which ones are akita, borzoi and spitz? |
| 15:26.27 | zecke | use ibot |
| 15:26.30 | zecke | ~spitz |
| 15:26.32 | ibot | i heard spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
| 15:26.47 | florian_kc | okay, another one :-) |
| 15:26.53 | florian_kc | ~akita |
| 15:26.54 | ibot | from memory, akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 15:27.02 | florian_kc | ~borzoi |
| 15:27.03 | ibot | it has been said that borzoi is the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm ) |
| 15:28.10 | florian_kc | zecke: many thanks |
| 15:29.00 | zecke | you are welcome |
| 15:32.51 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for _law_ We have a new keylaunch in OE now, the rc files for the multiple clamshells might want some updates on other models, but the basics are there. |
| 15:33.58 | koen | florian_kc: only 2.0.8 is in OE atm |
| 15:34.14 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for _law_ I checked in display-brightness as well, i'll make the next bb for gpe-conf recommend it. |
| 15:34.23 | florian_kc | koen: one sec... |
| 15:35.09 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for _law_ Great works on this - now i only need to fix gpe-conf. |
| 15:38.58 | france_ | florian_kc: try in a web browser http://ftp.handhelds.org |
| 15:39.24 | france_ | florian_kc: the site, I am at is funny.. I can access it from h7, but I want to see what it looks like from the outside world |
| 15:42.25 | florian_kc | france_: 403 |
| 15:42.30 | koen | florian_kc: corgie, shepher and huskey aren't used in OE anymore, they are all c7x0 now |
| 15:42.59 | france_ | florian_kc: :-( lynx http://ftp.handhelds.org works from my home system, which I am sshed into. |
| 15:43.38 | florian_kc | koen: even better... then it is backward compatible now ;-) if you pull you should get some updates... |
| 15:43.56 | koen | no updates |
| 15:44.04 | koen | I did pull minute ago :) |
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| 15:46.36 | france_ | florian_kc: what happens when you try lynx? |
| 15:46.38 | _law_ | florian_kc: botmail doesnt show me your msg :-( |
| 15:47.00 | florian_kc | ~lart ibot |
| 15:47.09 | florian_kc | heh |
| 15:47.34 | florian_kc | _law_: "We have a new keylaunch in OE now, the rc files for the multiple clamshells might want some updates on other models, but the basics are there." |
| 15:47.48 | florian_kc | _law_: "I checked in display-brightness as well, i'll make the next bb for gpe-conf recommend it." |
| 15:48.00 | _law_ | florian_kc: nice |
| 15:48.06 | florian_kc | _law_: "Great works on this - now i only need to fix gpe-conf." |
| 15:48.40 | koen | florian_kc: you forgot to commit the new keylaunch |
| 15:50.13 | _law_ | it looks like i should build a new gpe-image over night :-) |
| 15:50.50 | florian_kc | eeks |
| 15:55.04 | XorA | florian_kc: lots of config files and no bb :-) |
| 15:55.46 | florian_kc | yeah... one sec.. waiting for monotone |
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| 15:59.16 | florian_kc | hrm... i checked in a version but it didn't push one... |
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| 16:01.08 | florian_kc | here we go... |
| 16:01.08 | hrw|work | florian_kc: you forgot keylaunch_2.0.10.bb |
| 16:01.11 | hrw|work | hi |
| 16:01.29 | florian_kc | hrw|work: yeah... its on its way now. |
| 16:01.34 | hrw|work | noticed |
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| 16:04.16 | france_ | florian_kc: did you try something simple like lynx? |
| 16:04.54 | florian_kc | france_: well.. 403 is 403 in any browser |
| 16:05.08 | france_ | florian_kc: not it isn't |
| 16:05.44 | florian_kc | france_: did you change some dns entry? |
| 16:05.55 | france_ | florian_kc: yes.... |
| 16:06.02 | france_ | for example it will fail with ie |
| 16:06.06 | france_ | but work with lynx |
| 16:06.12 | france_ | I need basic tests.... |
| 16:06.15 | hrw|work | _law_: can we rename xserver-common/etc/X11/shepherd.xmodmap into c7x0.xmodmap in next releases? |
| 16:06.21 | france_ | start with the small stuff |
| 16:06.28 | france_ | lynx works from my house |
| 16:06.41 | france_ | does it work from your location? |
| 16:07.21 | france_ | or I can do this tonight when I get home and have access to other outside systems... |
| 16:09.56 | florian_kc | france_: no, it doesn't work as well. |
| 16:10.11 | florian_kc | france_: only ftp works |
| 16:10.35 | france_ | florian_kc: very strange, if I ssh into h7, and do 'lynx ftp.handhelds.org' that works |
| 16:10.50 | france_ | if I ssh to home, and do the same command that works, but you have no access? |
| 16:11.12 | france_ | wget does not work for me on either site as it has different config issues in apache |
| 16:21.58 | france_ | florian_kc: wget http://ftp.handhelds.org/welcome.msg |
| 16:22.37 | france_ | florian_kc: wget http://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/welcome.msg |
| 16:24.15 | france_ | florian_kc: ie works now... |
| 16:29.32 | rob_w|mis | are there any tweaks ( prior memory allocations or such ) to make a gtk app look faster ?? |
| 16:30.38 | coredump | florian_kc, I added some lines on brightness.c to define where Jornada's brightness control file is, but the brightness control still not working (it's always zero and the slider don't work). I see a message on the xsession log abou X86-Misc extension not being found, that's related? |
| 16:35.03 | florian_kc | coredump: unlikely... if you change backlight manually it works? |
| 16:36.12 | coredump | florian_kc, yes. echo "20" > /proc/jornada/brightness |
| 16:36.32 | hrw|work | coredump: does /proc/jornada/brightness is read/write or only write? |
| 16:37.27 | coredump | -rw-rw-rw- |
| 16:43.16 | coredump | hrw|work, yes |
| 16:43.40 | coredump | florian_kc, I added code equal to the GENERIC one, with the correct path. |
| 16:52.10 | coredump | oh boy... gpe-dm exits cleanly but do not start anything |
| 16:52.48 | hrw|work | coredump: quit right after login? |
| 16:53.18 | coredump | coredump, no, X don't come up. Or am I doing something stupid... |
| 16:53.34 | florian_kc | coredump: that sounds good... verify if it is detected correctly- |
| 16:54.03 | coredump | florian_kc, how? there's no error message on the logs. |
| 16:55.39 | florian_kc | coredump: maybe just add a printf after the detection code |
| 17:01.28 | coredump | florian_kc, hmmmm.... I'm a python programmer, you know... C/Objc is like alien. But I'll try /;) |
| 17:09.43 | coredump | hrw|work, gpe-dm depends on anything? |
| 17:11.39 | hrw|work | coredump: if it is installed then it has all what it need |
| 17:11.42 | _law_ | florian_kc: yes renaming would be nice |
| 17:15.50 | coredump | hrw|gone, strange. it's installed. it runs and exits clear, but nothing happen. |
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| 17:44.57 | bluesign | any idea on why bitbake is complaning about /etc/passwd ? |
| 17:49.14 | florian_kc | bluesign: that'might be a question for #oe, but what exactly it does it say? |
| 17:49.47 | bluesign | it says that it cannot find foo/bar/etc/passwd |
| 17:49.59 | bluesign | when generating rootfs |
| 17:50.45 | bluesign | actually it is trying to zap_root_password |
| 17:51.38 | florian_kc | hmm... that file should be there. might be a bug in your image definiton - does the base-passwd package gets into it? |
| 17:52.34 | bluesign | yep |
| 17:53.03 | florian_kc | for which platform is this? |
| 17:53.15 | bluesign | omap |
| 17:55.05 | florian_kc | hrm... did you create your own device configuration? |
| 17:55.17 | bluesign | nope i am using a pre made one |
| 17:56.19 | florian_kc | I wonder if this function should try to modify passwd.master instead of passwd. |
| 17:57.27 | bluesign | hmm |
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| 18:54.47 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 19:23.30 | coredump | gpe-dm tries to execute Xinit. I don't have that on my debian, Xinit = xinit? |
| 19:26.47 | pb_ | probably not, no |
| 19:26.55 | pb_ | I imagine you need to install the bits from gpe-session-scripts. |
| 19:28.29 | coredump | did it already :) |
| 19:30.49 | coredump | pb_, no Xinit on gpe-session-scripts |
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| 19:42.31 | pb_ | oh, hm. I guess it's in gpe-dm itself then. |
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| 19:43.08 | pb_ | ah, no, I remember, it got moved to xserver-common |
| 19:44.58 | coredump | pb_, it overrides default Debian xserver-common? |
| 19:45.15 | pb_ | dunno |
| 19:45.22 | pb_ | I suspect that's just an unfortunate coincidence in naming |
| 19:45.32 | coredump | must rename it for package |
| 19:45.37 | pb_ | yeah |
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| 19:45.52 | pb_ | I'm not sure exactly what debian's xserver-common does, but I doubt it is the same thing |
| 19:55.35 | coredump | Yes, other stuff. |
| 19:55.39 | coredump | package is now gpe-xserver-common |
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| 19:59.21 | florian | re |
| 19:59.26 | coredump | oh dear... conflicting files... |
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| 20:23.54 | DNAfanboy_wk | hi all |
| 20:29.18 | florian | hi DNAfanboy_wk |
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| 21:12.28 | florian | Philippe: Met Fionn today? :-) |
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| 21:18.26 | Philippe | hey florian ! Indeed I did. |
| 21:18.33 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 21:18.42 | Philippe | hey koen |
| 21:19.00 | koen | Philippe: the local beer store hadn't even heard of leffe 9 graden! |
| 21:19.07 | koen | but he's trying to order it :) |
| 21:19.17 | Philippe | koen, well it is only out for a month or something I believe... |
| 21:19.37 | Philippe | koen, let me know if it is good :-) |
| 21:20.16 | koen | I will :) |
| 21:33.05 | coredump | any distribution has gpe 2.7 done? |
| 21:33.13 | coredump | packaging it for debian is being a terrible pain |
| 21:37.33 | hrw | coredump: gpe 2.7 is in OE |
| 21:39.48 | coredump | Owhat? |
| 21:39.58 | koen | OpenEmbedded |
| 21:40.02 | coredump | linky |
| 21:40.22 | koen | http://oe.handhelds.org/ |
| 21:42.59 | florian | coredump: that's true, but once a complete set of duild descriptions is done it should be easier. |
| 21:44.38 | coredump | florian, I hit a bad place trying to get gpe-dm to work, complete freeze on the keyboard. then I quit :) |
| 21:45.12 | florian | coredump: uh! |
| 21:45.14 | coredump | koen, OE is a basic distribution or a distribution itself? |
| 21:45.38 | koen | coredump: neither, it's a collection of meta-data to build stuff |
| 21:47.31 | coredump | koen, so I should be getting familiar 0.8.3, OE based, right? |
| 21:47.53 | koen | I don't know if familiar 0.8.3 will be OE based |
| 21:49.11 | coredump | koen, at least it's what is stated on OE HP |
| 21:49.49 | coredump | <pissed>I'm tired of trying to compile all stuff to get my Jornada running. I'll just sell that and buy a notebook....</pissed> |
| 21:50.04 | koen | correct, but familiar is currently very dead and unmaintained |
| 21:50.20 | florian | koen: france might have a different opinion ;-) |
| 21:50.23 | florian | c |
| 21:50.52 | koen | florian: still no answer to http://handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar-dev/current/0753.html |
| 21:50.56 | florian | coredump: it might be _much_ easier to add a description for your device to oe. |
| 21:51.10 | koen | florian: add? |
| 21:51.12 | coredump | their last release is almost a year ago... |
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| 21:51.34 | koen | koen@dominion:/data/build/oe/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ ls conf/machine/ | grep jornada |
| 21:51.38 | koen | jornada56x.conf |
| 21:51.40 | koen | jornada6xx.conf |
| 21:51.43 | koen | jornada7xx.conf |
| 21:52.06 | koen | coredump: I know, I was the release manager for Familiar for the past few years |
| 21:54.35 | jurop88 | 'night all |
| 21:56.54 | coredump | nite |
| 21:57.17 | coredump | well.. I'm just tired. trying to get a windows free PDA is horrible. |
| 22:05.51 | Philippe | night all |
| 22:06.21 | florian | sounds good :-) |
| 22:06.57 | florian | koen: but you are right about this email... that's really a pain. |
| 22:08.04 | florian | jurop88, Philippe: good night |
| 22:08.35 | florian | coredump: maybe just try to build familiar for your device |
| 22:09.06 | coredump | Jornadas and IPaqs are theoretically compatible |
| 22:09.11 | coredump | binary-wise |
| 22:09.22 | coredump | but screen size/orientation is a bitc |
| 22:10.00 | florian | coredump: not really... gpe doesn't have compiled in sizes |
| 22:10.37 | florian | coredump: you need your kernel and maybe some more hardware dependant stuff like tslib. |
| 22:19.09 | coredump | florian, hmmm. any heads up on compiling familiar? I'm trying to get the code. |
| 22:20.31 | florian | coredump: well... OE does most of the job for you. you should use the oz354fam083 branch and build the familiar-0.8.3 distro target. |
| 22:21.30 | coredump | florian, that means install OE first : |
| 22:21.30 | coredump | :) |
| 22:21.57 | florian | coredump: just bitbake and monotone, oe is more or less data only. |
| 22:23.11 | coredump | oki |
| 22:23.19 | coredump | then get the familiar tree for OE |
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| 22:28.53 | florian | I have an ipaq, a simpad, a 770, a netbook and some more stuff at kc... |
| 22:33.26 | florian | enough to know that we need to make supporting different devices easier... |
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| 22:54.33 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 22:55.34 | reenoo | evening |
| 22:55.37 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 22:57.24 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 22:57.56 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 22:58.53 | reenoo | pb_: happen to know what the glibc arm-no-hwcap.patch does? it seems it is applied in .dev but not in the release branch. |
| 22:59.25 | pb_ | reenoo: turns off some unnecessary library searches |
| 22:59.52 | reenoo | so, it should be re-enabled in the release branch? |
| 22:59.57 | pb_ | I think so |
| 23:00.04 | reenoo | ok, will do |
| 23:00.23 | reenoo | ~hug diff |
| 23:00.25 | ibot | ACTION hugs diff |
| 23:00.26 | pb_ | it's just a question of efficiency, not correctness, so I guess it isn't all that important, but I can't think of any reason that it shouldn't be in the release |
| 23:00.35 | pb_ | I wonder why it was disabled. |
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| 23:40.44 | reenoo | pb_: hmm. no idea. there's a lot of funky stuff going on in OE these days... |
| 23:42.14 | reenoo | anyways |
| 23:42.16 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:42.33 | florian | reenoo|zZzZ: good night |
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| 23:45.32 | pb_ | reenoo|zZzZ: mm, it seems |
| 23:45.37 | pb_ | reenoo|zZzZ: night night |
| 23:46.13 | pb_ | florian: with reenoo's recent indisposition, I suspect that not a lot is going on right now |
| 23:50.23 | florian | pb_: that might be true, currently i wonder if that should make me angry or sad. |
| 23:51.10 | pb_ | florian: the ideal situation would be for it to make you slightly sad, a little bit angry, and totally determined to leap into action yourself. |
| 23:52.01 | pb_ | personally it makes me more sad than angry, though |
| 23:56.59 | florian | pb_: yes right, in fact i feel pretty much like this... the only thing what keeps me from acting myself is lack of time. |
| 23:57.36 | pb_ | right, this is the same constraint that I face |
| 23:57.44 | pb_ | sadly it always seems to be the problem. |
