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| 00:14.08 | florian | night |
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| 00:35.08 | Arthur | hi there |
| 00:37.34 | Arthur | guys, how can I make gpe to autoload a module when booting? |
| 01:18.34 | jg | pb_: evning |
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| 01:52.18 | Arthur | guys, my buttons on ipaq are not working since I've ipkg upgrade'd |
| 01:52.33 | Arthur | where can I configure the functions and calls to these buttons? |
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| 03:13.02 | Arthur | oh hi there, france. |
| 03:14.12 | france | Arthur: hi |
| 03:20.28 | Arthur | do you have sound working with gpe? |
| 03:25.52 | france | I havn't tried sound in a while, sorry |
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| 08:31.22 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:34.55 | _law_ | morning koen |
| 08:35.11 | koen | hey _law_ |
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| 08:59.46 | XorA | morning |
| 09:01.27 | rob_w|mis | hi , where again is the cursor made invisble ? |
| 09:02.03 | XorA | rob_w|mis: its in /etc/X11/* somewhere, there is a script that hides it if it detects a touchscreen |
| 09:02.59 | rob_w|mis | ah in combination with touches .. thanks .. searching |
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| 09:05.01 | rob_w|mis | hmm ... as i am missing this .. i might need help |
| 09:07.32 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:14.39 | rob_w|mis | XorA, yeah i am looking at detec.stylus.c .. which calls xrdb ..but that refuses for me right now :-( grr |
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| 09:26.13 | rob_w|mis | hmm it doesnt go invisible |
| 09:26.52 | koen | do you have xcursor-transparent-theme installed? |
| 09:27.25 | rob_w|mis | yep |
| 09:27.39 | rob_w|mis | i also specified my touch as TSLIB_DEVICE enc |
| 09:27.41 | rob_w|mis | i also specified my touch as TSLIB_DEVICE env |
| 09:28.02 | rob_w|mis | X flashes and restarts on the xrdb call but the cursor stays |
| 09:32.08 | rob_w|mis | i dont see an option so xrdb tells me it current settings ... or so |
| 09:37.48 | rob_w|mis | maybe i messed up my diet-xlib |
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| 11:04.16 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 11:05.38 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 11:12.49 | _law_ | hy florian_kc |
| 11:15.29 | jurop88 | hi florian_kc |
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| 11:35.12 | koen | florian_kc: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17933&pid=117538&st=0&#entry117538 |
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| 11:43.25 | florian_kc | koen: hmm... installing gpe-announce might be a good idea :-) |
| 11:43.36 | pb__ | florian_kc. fuchs__ : good morning |
| 11:44.17 | koen | florian_kc: there were starting to talk about modifying gpe stuff, so I thought I mention it here |
| 11:47.45 | florian_kc | koen: yeah... too bad their communication seems to be limited to their forum. |
| 11:48.27 | koen | that's why I mentioned it here |
| 11:48.46 | florian_kc | yep |
| 11:54.33 | XorA | hrw & Laze seem to have made up, so comms arent that bad between projects :-) |
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| 12:06.41 | l1nux | hi |
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| 12:16.36 | florian_kc | _law_: can you give me that url of the gpe-conf / keylaunch stuff you did again, i still have some hope to test it today. |
| 12:17.10 | _law_ | florian_kc, ok didnt you open a bug? |
| 12:17.25 | florian_kc | helll - i did |
| 12:17.29 | florian_kc | oh dear.... |
| 12:17.37 | florian_kc | i should try to get more sleep |
| 12:18.34 | _law_ | florian_kc, but i cant find it... |
| 12:18.48 | _law_ | only can find http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 |
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| 12:19.03 | dc6iq | moin. |
| 12:19.10 | koen | hey dc6iq |
| 12:20.05 | florian_kc | _law_: its #1560 |
| 12:21.04 | dc6iq | gpe on treo 650 is it a true story ? any donwloads available ? |
| 12:21.05 | _law_ | florian_kc, if this bug is fixed i can get some sleep again ;-) |
| 12:21.20 | florian_kc | _law_: okay :-) |
| 12:21.35 | florian_kc | but first i need to make some dbus stuff work here... |
| 12:22.12 | _law_ | florian_kc, gpe-filemanager dbus stuff? |
| 12:22.44 | florian_kc | dc6iq: yes, but i'm not sure who did it and what the status of usablility is. |
| 12:22.58 | florian_kc | _law_: hmm... no, what's up with that? |
| 12:23.55 | florian_kc | _law_: I'm hacking some stuff for a customer... with some luck i can reuse code and knowlege later on in gpe-conf :-) |
| 12:24.06 | _law_ | florian_kc, nice |
| 12:24.29 | _law_ | florian_kc, gpe-filemanager segfault if i try do send a file via bluetooth |
| 12:24.59 | florian_kc | _law_: oh nasty... that needs some investigation |
| 12:25.14 | koen | dc6iq: see http://grack.com/ |
| 12:25.19 | _law_ | i tried do build a patch but i cant fix it :-( |
| 12:26.03 | _law_ | perhaps i should learn more about dbus |
| 12:36.51 | pb__ | _law_: if you're using dbus 0.60, it probably needs the marshalling code fixed. |
| 12:37.04 | pb__ | I imagine it just needs the same patch as all the other applications have. |
| 12:37.55 | _law_ | pb_, i already tried but could fix it :-( |
| 13:11.30 | jurop88 | uh oh, sqlite 2.8.13 doesn't support ALTER TABLE statement? |
| 13:12.03 | jurop88 | if I have to add a column in a table, should I create a new one and transfer all datas? |
| 13:16.55 | florian_kc | jurop88: right, iirc this is quite easy... libcontactsdb has some code doing this for an old table. |
| 13:17.04 | florian_kc | brb, food |
| 13:25.29 | l1nux | i have problem to build openldap with oe cross.. |
| 13:25.38 | l1nux | ./ucgendat: ./ucgendat: cannot execute binary file |
| 13:26.36 | l1nux | same problem here |
| 13:26.38 | l1nux | http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:QuhGFA_zSNIJ:www.openldap.org/its/index.cgi/Incoming%3Fid%3D4415%3Bpage%3D1+cross+%22./ucgendat:+cannot+execute+binary+file%22&hl=fr&gl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=2 |
| 13:27.19 | koen | l1nux: you can't run ARM binaries on your host |
| 13:27.29 | koen | l1nux: and #oe would be a more appropriate channel |
| 13:27.43 | l1nux | ok |
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| 14:04.42 | koen | florian_kc: could you kick nils behind an irc terminal? |
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| 14:26.26 | Arthur | hi there. |
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| 14:27.42 | koen | hey Arthur |
| 14:29.25 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:29.28 | florian_kc | koen: ok |
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| 14:32.52 | florian_kc | koen: jabber? :-) |
| 14:33.33 | Arthur | guys, I'm using the SDK made available by florian on the gpe list and I would like to add more libraries to the SDK. I've cross-compiled a gtk program to my ipaq and I want to build gtkmm programs now. But when I compile a gtkmm program with arm-linux-g++ it doesn't recognize libgtkmm, libgdkmm, glibmm and other dependencies. |
| 14:33.40 | koen | florian_kc: koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 14:33.45 | Arthur | How could I add these libraries to the sdk? |
| 14:34.21 | florian_kc | koen: ok |
| 14:36.18 | Arthur | I believe I should ask this on OE, huh? |
| 14:36.23 | Arthur | Sorry for that. |
| 14:36.25 | florian_kc | Arthur: That's easy - compile them like for a target devie, but use /usr/local/arm/oe/arm-linux as prefix. |
| 14:37.07 | Arthur | I should compile the libraries with arm-linux-g++ so? |
| 14:37.11 | Arthur | one by one? |
| 14:37.17 | florian_kc | right... |
| 14:37.36 | Arthur | and this is the procedure for every lib I would like to add to the sdk? |
| 14:37.57 | Arthur | but compiling the lib, how could I know where to move the files into the SDK structure tree? |
| 14:38.08 | florian_kc | Arthur: Of course you can do your own SDK with OE too, then you would just create your own meta-sdk.bb |
| 14:38.55 | Arthur | is this meta-sdk.bb file is available through the oe tree I have installed here? |
| 14:38.55 | florian_kc | Arthur: that's why you use that special prefix - "make install" does the trick then. |
| 14:39.05 | florian_kc | Arthur: yes, of course. |
| 14:39.20 | Arthur | sorry, florian, but I don't know where I should set this prefix. |
| 14:40.23 | florian_kc | Arthur: that's a parameter to configure... you get something like "./configure --prefix=/usr/local/arm/oe/arm-linux --host=arm-linux" |
| 14:40.37 | Arthur | really thanks. |
| 14:40.40 | Arthur | I'll try it now. |
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| 14:45.08 | florian_kc | hello jg |
| 14:46.23 | jg | florian_kc: hi. |
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| 14:52.56 | Arthur | florian, just to undrestand a little more. When I set --prefix to the dir of the sdk, configure reads the bin and lib directories? Is this how it "discovers" the cross-compilers and settings? |
| 14:53.11 | Arthur | or is it made by the --host tag? |
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| 14:58.36 | rob_w|mis | wont it work if i toggle a container table to gtk_widget_hide .. that all inside is hidden and gone ? |
| 14:58.49 | Arthur | for which term should I search on google to know more about configure and make? |
| 15:01.29 | rob_w|mis | Arthur, autotools |
| 15:01.40 | Arthur | oh, thanks |
| 15:03.07 | XorA | koen: going to version bump gimp as older one doesnt build against our poppler, you ok with that? |
| 15:03.18 | koen | XorA: sure |
| 15:04.52 | XorA | someday someone will tell me why I am running gimp on a PDA :-) |
| 15:04.53 | florian_kc | Arthur: yes right - don't forget to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH correctly, there is a file with that info in the same dir ar handhelds.org. |
| 15:05.35 | Arthur | I'll take a look. Thanks, flo. |
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| 15:12.58 | XorA | ~lart irc |
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| 15:22.03 | XorA | I wish there was a fast way to install firefox |
| 15:25.51 | ArthurMaciel | florian, I could not find the sdk dir on the packages directory. |
| 15:25.57 | ArthurMaciel | Should I update my monotone? |
| 15:26.09 | ArthurMaciel | I mean, the local repository? |
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| 15:30.49 | florian_kc | ArthurMaciel: the bb is in packages/meta, after building this the archive shows up in $TMPDIR/deploy/sdk |
| 15:46.26 | ArthurMaciel | so to add libs to it should I add the lib name to target_install on the meta-sdk.bb? I should build it to the arm platform or to the i686 one? |
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| 15:54.42 | florian_kc | ArthurMaciel: for arm like the target |
| 15:58.03 | florian_kc | ArthurMaciel: the library-dev package goes to the target_install and the name of the package providing it to the dependencies. |
| 15:58.35 | ArthurMaciel | I've already built a lib (libsigc++) and now I'm trying to build glibmm. When I compile it for the i686 platform (my pc) it wroks great. But when I set the --prefix --host, PKG_CONFIG_PATH and try to compile it for arm it outputs and error: |
| 15:58.36 | ArthurMaciel | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ighXHG84.html |
| 15:59.02 | ArthurMaciel | it happens when I try to make |
| 16:03.32 | ArthurMaciel | guys, when I ipkg install a package, at the end of it occurs: ldconfig: Input file /usr/lib/libmagic.so.1.0.0 not found. |
| 16:03.32 | ArthurMaciel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.36 | florian_kc | ArthurMaciel: looks like an incompatible glib or somethign like thet |
| 16:06.00 | ArthurMaciel | oh.. maybe.. |
| 16:06.21 | ArthurMaciel | Does anyone plays video on arm plat? I tried to play one and it was really slow... |
| 16:07.45 | XorA | ArthurMaciel: i do |
| 16:07.53 | XorA | ArthurMaciel: with mplayer on 400Mhz Zaurus |
| 16:29.30 | ArthurMaciel | and is it smooth? |
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| 16:54.23 | florian_kc | drupal |
| 16:54.34 | florian_kc | hrm |
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| 16:59.29 | dc__ | :/ |
| 16:59.34 | dc__ | drippy drupal |
| 16:59.54 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
| 17:01.19 | XorA | ArthurMaciel: yes, I can play back 25 fps at 320x240 |
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| 17:43.05 | poli | Calendar is messing up ALL my appointments' times! :( |
| 17:44.46 | florian_kc | poli: eeks -please file a bugreport |
| 17:45.23 | poli | florian_kc: I am searching if there isn't one already... this is so frustrating, I can't identify if there is some patern. |
| 17:46.19 | florian_kc | poli: which versions of gpe-calendar and libeventdb do you use? |
| 17:46.33 | poli | florian_kc: latest familiar 0.8.3 upgrade |
| 17:47.43 | florian_kc | poli: nasty... hat's new for me |
| 17:47.54 | poli | florian_kc: I just wrote down an appointment yesterday for saturday at 13 hours. It is showing 16 hours now. |
| 17:49.01 | poli | I have a recurrent appointment every thurday from 8:00 to 8:40. It is showing 10:00-10:40 now. |
| 17:54.11 | poli | florian_kc: I think #1563 is a duplicate of #1557 |
| 17:55.30 | florian_kc | poli: i'll take a look asap |
| 17:56.12 | poli | florian_kc: Thank you. That seems like a new bug. Should I assign to someone? |
| 17:57.17 | florian_kc | poli: assign it to me or pb__ - and cc the other one |
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| 18:00.38 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 18:00.54 | pH5 | hey florian_kc |
| 18:02.36 | florian_kc | I wonder hhat might be the magic to add an additional dependency to an autptppls genereted target... |
| 18:06.50 | poli | florian_kc: are the appointments' times storaded with time zone? |
| 18:08.16 | florian_kc | poli: i don't think so... but i'm not sure |
| 18:11.22 | poli | florian_kc: since my first day on familiar/GPE I have had a number of TZ related problems. The only way I got to have my TZ (UTC-3) is to use it as a "DST" from UTC, none of the pre-configured TZs worked for me. Now, I just can't tell how, my .profile sets it to UTC-0 again. I am on UTC-3 and the weirdest part of all is that I must set TZ=UTC+3 to get my timezone... |
| 18:12.32 | florian_kc | poli: that's strange indeed... but lamikr was working on a solution. |
| 18:13.10 | poli | I had to logoff/login again this morning and TZ got read again :S |
| 18:13.37 | poli | All my recurring appointments turned into reminders... weird... |
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| 18:19.12 | poli | florian_kc: It was TZ related after all. Thank you. |
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| 18:30.51 | Philippe | hey peeps |
| 18:32.04 | pH5 | hey Philippe |
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| 18:35.39 | Philippe | hi pH5 |
| 18:37.22 | florian_kc | hey Philippe |
| 18:42.04 | reenoo | hi Philippe |
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| 18:43.13 | koen | hey Philippe & reenoo |
| 18:44.44 | reenoo | anyone happen to be familiar with accessing glib data structures in a multi threaded app? obviously multiple writers are a bad idea, but what about one writer and one or more readers at the same time? |
| 18:47.48 | reenoo | re koen |
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| 19:01.28 | Philippe | hey florian, koen & reenoo |
| 19:02.03 | mimecar | evening |
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| 19:10.30 | pb_ | reenoo: generally not a good idea to have any writers without locking. which data structures in particular? |
| 19:11.18 | reenoo | pb_: GHashTable and GQueue |
| 19:14.12 | pb_ | I don't know much about GHashTable, but GQueue is based on GList which isn't inherently thread-safe. |
| 19:15.08 | reenoo | hmm, I thought so but the docs weren't clear on that |
| 19:15.36 | reenoo | will add appropriate locks |
| 19:15.47 | reenoo | better too conservative than random breakage >:) |
| 19:15.50 | pb_ | heh, right |
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| 20:29.13 | lamikr | florian_kc: I saw the message about timezones. The alsa finally rocks perfectly, so I can try to check the timezone stuff more in the weekend. |
| 20:29.28 | lamikr | btw, hi all :-) |
| 20:31.38 | koen | hey lamikr |
| 20:33.08 | lamikr | hi koen |
| 20:35.04 | lamikr | koen: The tsc2101 alsa driver works now 100% for playing. Mixer is able to switch between loudspeaker and headphone. Do you know any other models who would benefit from this? |
| 20:39.30 | koen | I have heard about other models shipping that chip |
| 20:39.39 | Philippe | evening lamikr |
| 20:39.39 | koen | but I can't remember which ines |
| 20:39.48 | Philippe | lamikr, sounds good :-) |
| 20:42.34 | lamikr | yes. The dma part in the driver is omap specific but the driver is splitted to 4 files. (generic, dma, codec, and mixer), so propably 3 of 4 would be useful.. |
| 20:42.51 | lamikr | Philippe: Hi |
| 20:43.33 | koen | lamikr: you could have a chat with lrg about making it use also SoC and DPM |
| 20:44.26 | Philippe | lamikr, koen has a really good point there... |
| 20:44.30 | lamikr | koen: Is Irg = Liam's nick name? DPM is new word for me... |
| 20:45.05 | pb_ | lamikr: heh, you need a better font |
| 20:46.53 | lamikr | pb_: Hmm which is correct one :-) 1) Irg 2) 1rg 3) Lrg |
| 20:47.11 | pb_ | lamikr: 3 |
| 20:47.12 | Philippe | lamikr, it is lrg. 3rd one but with small letter. l like in liam |
| 20:47.59 | koen | lamikr: dpm = dynamic power management |
| 20:48.19 | lamikr | Oh ;.) I have had some emails with liam. He told that the split to these files should help with this Asoc |
| 20:48.42 | reenoo | pb_: can you think of any app using GModule in a sane way so I could borrow some ideas? I'm not sure I'm using it the way it's intended to be used. |
| 20:48.56 | lamikr | koen: Damn, I swear I did not slept while liam was speaking... dpm... |
| 20:49.11 | Philippe | lamikr, did you speak to him at Fosdem... |
| 20:49.14 | Philippe | ? |
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| 20:49.43 | pb_ | reenoo: sorry, can't think of any |
| 20:50.06 | reenoo | pb_: thanks anyway |
| 20:51.12 | lamikr | Philippe: Oh yes. I and liam sit besides each others in embedded room and he even looked the tsc2101 specs briefly :-) |
| 20:51.41 | Philippe | good :-) |
| 20:52.46 | ashak | is there any way to start gpe without it asking you to calibrate the touchscreen? |
| 20:52.58 | lamikr | So I will investigate more about the Asoc driver code and changes he is suggesting to alsa libs. |
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| 20:53.51 | lamikr | I need to go now, one dvd is waiting... |
| 20:54.39 | Philippe | lamikr, enjoy :-) |
| 20:54.50 | Philippe | ashak, that should only happen once |
| 20:55.14 | ashak | Philippe: But I can't get beyond it, as I have no touchscreen |
| 20:55.20 | pH5 | ashak: remove /etc/X11/Xinit.d/30xTs_Calibrate or touch /etc/pointercal, I guess. |
| 20:55.22 | Philippe | ashak, there should be some file that controls that, but I don't immediately know which one... |
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| 20:55.38 | ashak | pH5: Thanks |
| 20:59.27 | jurop88 | Philippe: my personal timesheeting has updated the archives adding a todo_id column to tasks table... |
| 20:59.38 | jurop88 | tasks are organized in a tree... |
| 20:59.53 | jurop88 | and parent tasks could no more been clockable... |
| 21:00.02 | jurop88 | next step: adding todos in the list... |
| 21:00.35 | jurop88 | and made the journal global in the sense that if you ask a journal for a parent, you'll have logs of all children! |
| 21:10.54 | Philippe | jurop88, sounds good. |
| 21:11.08 | Philippe | I have been trying to fix the PREFIX stuff lately |
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| 21:23.50 | florian_ | re |
| 21:24.38 | koen | florian_: wb |
| 21:26.36 | _law_ | hi florian_ |
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| 21:49.05 | _law_ | n8 all |
| 21:49.31 | pH5 | 'night _law_ |
| 21:49.41 | ashak | Is there any documentation on keycodes expected by gpe? I have gpe-dm started, it's displaying the New User Details page, the joystick on the device moves the cursor between the available text boxes, the 0-9 keys output their numbers into the text boxes, but things like selecting the Ok button doesn't work. I assume this is something to do with gpe expecting different key codes than the ones being output by my key? |
| 21:50.30 | ashak | my keys rather |
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| 21:52.10 | pb_ | ashak: if there is any documentation, it'd be in the gtk manual |
| 22:12.05 | ashak | hmm, file-native just failed. |
| 22:16.53 | ashak | | lt-file: could not find any magic files! |
| 22:16.53 | ashak | | make[2]: *** [magic.mgc] Error 255 |
| 22:19.10 | ashak | ck... no wonder I haven't been getting any response, wrong channel. |
| 22:19.14 | ashak | Sorry |
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| 22:26.17 | Philippe | off to sleep |
| 22:26.20 | Philippe | night all |
| 22:26.51 | pH5 | 'night |
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| 23:20.53 | pb_ | dc_: evening |
| 23:25.06 | pigeon | pb_! dc_! |
| 23:25.23 | pb_ | pigeon! |
| 23:34.35 | pb_ | night night |
| 23:35.05 | florian_ | pb_: good night |
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