| 00:01.49 | florian | france: wb |
| 00:01.58 | france | florian: thank you. |
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| 00:16.44 | jcole | yay! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu |
| 00:21.09 | jaxson | Nice. Super nice... |
| 00:21.30 | florian | jcole: that's pretty interesting indeed |
| 00:21.52 | florian | but u-boot is a bad idea, iirc it doesn't support suspend/resume |
| 00:22.43 | jcole | you guys should get involved |
| 00:22.47 | jaxson | florian: Might give them that feedback before they get to far? |
| 00:23.54 | jaxson | florian: No need to get to involved, if not want or need to be. |
| 00:24.46 | jaxson | florian: But it might be good to give feedback about your knowled when needed :-) |
| 00:26.37 | jcole | "GPE will be used as reference graphical environment." |
| 00:28.48 | jcole | heh, i work with lamont, i should talk to him |
| 00:35.59 | florian | jaxson: in fact i like this idea... currently time is limited, but if we can help e.g. getting GPE into it or help with some experience... |
| 00:36.19 | florian | jcole: :-) |
| 00:42.02 | jcole | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.24 | florian | jcole: done :-) |
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| 01:06.14 | joshua_ | florian, is there a new source for GPE screenshots other than the gallery? |
| 01:06.18 | joshua_ | gallery seems a little out of date |
| 01:09.28 | florian | joshua_: that's true... but not that i'm aware of. but if someone creates updates i can add them easily. |
| 01:10.04 | joshua_ | hm, there are multiple galleries that I'm seeing. |
| 01:10.10 | joshua_ | there's one from the familiar page that's truly ancient |
| 01:10.17 | joshua_ | http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/ is somewhat more recent |
| 01:11.11 | florian | uh, indeed |
| 01:11.30 | florian | france: can you fix that link at the familiar hp? |
| 01:11.40 | mreimer | joshua_: do you have gpe running on your h2200 now? |
| 01:11.56 | france | florian: sure |
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| 01:18.50 | france | florian: give the new link a test drive |
| 01:19.49 | joshua_ | dunno how much got lost in the split; [20:14:56] <joshua_> how's xstroke behave nowadays on larger displays? [20:15:06] <joshua_> is anyone maintaining it? xstroke.org seems to be quite gone |
| 01:19.58 | joshua_ | (if that actually did make it through, forgive me) |
| 01:20.56 | florian | france: much better :-) many thanks |
| 01:21.06 | france | florian: welcome.. |
| 01:21.26 | france | and of course it shows a new bug, of folks editing the webpages with out putting them back into cvs. |
| 01:21.40 | florian | joshua_: i have some fear it is unmaintained... |
| 01:21.56 | france | joshua_: it must need a new maintianer |
| 01:22.26 | joshua_ | darn |
| 01:22.42 | joshua_ | there's precious little good HWR stuff out there... |
| 01:22.52 | joshua_ | how well does rosetta scale? |
| 01:23.43 | florian | joshua_: bad, but file bugs and i kick Ole sitting opposite of me at kc :-) |
| 01:25.36 | joshua_ | hm |
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| 01:37.24 | florian | good night |
| 01:37.32 | france | florian: nite |
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| 02:05.21 | jaxson | Ops. God night all |
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| 05:14.39 | pgas | CoreDump|afk: lot of 640x480 images here http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/jedhead/wallpaper/ |
| 05:35.36 | pigeon | pgas: heh, you know if there's somewhere with those wallpapers in higher resolutions? ;) |
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| 07:12.26 | shadows | http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=705 please someone with knowlege of libmatchbox have a look, tell me what is safe/stable from the svn example |
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| 07:51.33 | _law_ | morning all |
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| 08:26.03 | pgas | pigeon: no , but gooogling for the name should work I think |
| 08:26.32 | rob_w|mis | morning |
| 08:30.23 | _law_ | .keylaunchrc in my home and gpe starts :-) |
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| 08:51.58 | XorA | morning |
| 08:52.09 | XorA | _law_: you fixed it? |
| 08:52.18 | _law_ | XorA, yes |
| 08:52.33 | _law_ | XorA, i think so :-) |
| 08:52.39 | XorA | _law_: whats the fix? |
| 08:52.48 | _law_ | XorA, mom i?ll to some testing |
| 08:57.36 | _law_ | ok it works :-) |
| 08:58.41 | _law_ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.23720.png :-) |
| 08:59.59 | XorA | _law_: excellent |
| 09:00.07 | XorA | _law_: and just in time for 3.5.4 hrw|gone will be happy |
| 09:00.40 | XorA | _law_: I assume it doesnt cover the touchscreen magic buttons yet :-) |
| 09:00.41 | XorA | # |
| 09:01.12 | _law_ | XorA, no but i think i know how this could work |
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| 09:26.50 | rob_w|mis | where again is the cursor triggered invisible ? |
| 09:29.08 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:29.18 | hrw|work | _law_: nice - now get it packaged properly |
| 09:29.50 | _law_ | hi hrw|work, configuring with gpe-conf doesnt work atm :-( |
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| 09:31.24 | _law_ | hrw|work, but you can try to change your .keylaunchrc to http://pastebin.com/566410 |
| 09:31.35 | _law_ | this should work fine |
| 09:32.15 | hrw|work | 'Menu' still as fullscreen as it is set in matchbox-wm setup? |
| 09:32.31 | _law_ | hrw|work, yes |
| 09:32.39 | _law_ | hrw|work, is this a problem? |
| 09:33.50 | XorA | _law_: so what was wrong with keylaunch? |
| 09:33.51 | _law_ | we also should have a look at /etc/X11/shepherd.xmodmap (rename it, only kernel 2.4 is supported) |
| 09:33.58 | XorA | _law_: I lost my connectiom |
| 09:34.07 | _law_ | XorA, wrong syntax |
| 09:34.27 | _law_ | XorA, try http://pastebin.com/566410 |
| 09:34.34 | _law_ | as .keylaunchrx |
| 09:34.43 | XorA | _law_: does we use a differnt file than ipaq/fam? |
| 09:34.44 | _law_ | s/x/c |
| 09:35.09 | _law_ | XorA, i dont know |
| 09:35.18 | _law_ | but i dont think so |
| 09:35.46 | _law_ | XorA, hrw|work, does it work for you? |
| 09:36.00 | hrw|work | _law_: no time to check - sorry |
| 09:37.31 | XorA | waiting for me ceo to fsckoff |
| 09:39.32 | _law_ | i also have build new key-commands and key-layout, but i have to wait for florian i think |
| 09:40.41 | hrw|work | so currently we have two blockers: apm on poodle/tosa and this |
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| 09:49.36 | XorA | _law_: success with that .keylaunrc |
| 09:49.52 | _law_ | XorA, nice |
| 09:50.05 | XorA | _law_: just need to add gpe-calender |
| 09:50.43 | _law_ | XorA, i have written a little gpe-conf patch, i?ll test it now |
| 09:51.06 | _law_ | so gui-change should also work |
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| 09:59.06 | koen | _law_: I have a hi-res photo of a c7x0 keyboard: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/c700-keyboard.jpg |
| 10:00.11 | _law_ | koen, thanks much better then my sony ericsson k750i shot :-) |
| 10:00.27 | hrw|work | best way would be if gpe-conf/keys&buttons will allow to configure any keycombo |
| 10:00.47 | hrw|work | so Fn+(1-4) would be possible |
| 10:01.31 | hrw|work | vga devices lack xrandr 320x240 setting |
| 10:07.28 | XorA | hrw|work: that needs work in kdrive |
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| 10:09.42 | hrw|work | ok. so we cannot have it |
| 10:13.38 | pb__ | wow, mccarthy lives |
| 10:16.29 | XorA | hrw|work: we can, if we port the pdaXrom version of X to OE |
| 10:16.46 | XorA | hrw|work: it has some other nice little hacks as well, like 24bit pixmap support |
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| 10:36.37 | _law_ | gpe-conf keys should now also work :-) |
| 10:37.11 | hrw|work | _law_: good to know - when you finish send me patch to .oz354fam083 |
| 10:37.57 | _law_ | hrw|work, only have .dev branch, i also wanna talk with florian before (to confirm the patch) |
| 10:38.45 | _law_ | koen, wow this picture is really much better than mine :-) |
| 10:38.49 | hrw|work | sure |
| 10:39.03 | hrw|work | we also need someone with cxx00 to get it working too |
| 10:39.21 | _law_ | hrw|work, dont have one :-( |
| 10:39.54 | _law_ | but perhabs i can fix strg + c problem on collie :-) |
| 10:40.30 | hrw|work | would be nice |
| 10:42.54 | _law_ | koen, there is something on the mail button (upper left corner) ;-) |
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| 10:53.15 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 10:53.27 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
| 10:53.40 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 10:54.47 | _law_ | koen, http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31044.png |
| 10:54.50 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
| 10:55.21 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 10:55.25 | _law_ | florian_kc, i have fixed keylaunch problem on the Z |
| 10:55.47 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: timeplan for 3.5.4: fix keylaunch on c7x0/cxx00, fix apm on poodle/tosa - release |
| 10:56.09 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: thx |
| 10:56.22 | hrw|work | _law_, CoreDump|home: if you both could cooperate to get keylaunch on cxx00 working it would be great |
| 10:56.47 | hrw|work | apm problem sent to testers and oz-devel |
| 10:56.58 | CoreDump|home | heh I'm willing to be a tester, sure. |
| 10:57.18 | _law_ | i think cxx00 have got the same keyboard or? |
| 10:57.23 | _law_ | so i should work |
| 10:57.31 | hrw|work | _law_: same but probably other keycodes |
| 10:57.37 | CoreDump|home | _law_: not sure |
| 10:58.07 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, http://pastebin.com/566410 try this as .keylaunchrc in your $HOME |
| 10:58.22 | _law_ | after that restart gpe |
| 10:59.16 | hrw|work | if not work then connect desktop/X11 to Z, on desktop export DISPLAY to Z & run xev |
| 10:59.18 | CoreDump|home | um the keylaunch problem wasn't about missing keybindings |
| 10:59.29 | CoreDump|home | it' a crash bug |
| 10:59.46 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: its collide keylaunch<>matchbox-wm |
| 10:59.51 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 11:00.05 | CoreDump|home | give me a few minutes to flash 2.4 |
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| 11:00.47 | _law_ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31044.png |
| 11:01.13 | CoreDump|home | neat |
| 11:01.43 | CoreDump|home | _law_: is the key photo used in the app machine dependent? |
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| 11:02.59 | pH5 | _law_: wouldn't it look cleaner if you'd just use the symbols from those keys instead of a photo? |
| 11:03.10 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: in one or two days I'll be finished w/ altboot. |
| 11:03.16 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: cool |
| 11:03.52 | _law_ | pH5, perhaps someone could draw symbols :-) |
| 11:03.56 | CoreDump|home | rc4 passes all kernel 2.6 tests |
| 11:04.19 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, currently ist hard coded :-( |
| 11:04.24 | hrw|work | pH5: currently its more important to get it fixed (atleast from me) |
| 11:04.50 | CoreDump|home | _law_: i see, would have made of photo for akita otherwise |
| 11:05.10 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, no koen gave me this one |
| 11:05.43 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: do you still have a working .oz build env on ewi? |
| 11:06.24 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 11:06.30 | florian_kc | _law_: rock! |
| 11:06.33 | florian_kc | brb |
| 11:06.35 | CoreDump|home | hi florian_kc |
| 11:06.59 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: yes |
| 11:07.02 | hrw|work | hi flypiper |
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| 11:07.24 | hrw|work | hi flypiper |
| 11:07.27 | hrw|work | argh.. |
| 11:07.33 | hrw|work | florian_kc: hi ;) |
| 11:07.34 | florian_kc | re |
| 11:07.57 | _law_ | florian_kc, build an little gpe-conf patch to get this working |
| 11:08.00 | hrw|work | florian_kc: can command entry in keys&buttons be larger? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31044.png |
| 11:08.07 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: could you do me a favor und create an ext2 rootfs of bootstrap for me? |
| 11:08.23 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: for which machine? |
| 11:08.38 | CoreDump|home | akita and collie |
| 11:08.40 | hrw|work | ok |
| 11:08.50 | CoreDump|home | thanks =) |
| 11:10.12 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: it will have experimental apm(d) - without killing apmd on suspend (untested) |
| 11:10.47 | CoreDump|home | I'll check it out |
| 11:11.33 | florian_kc | _law_: uh okay :-) |
| 11:12.08 | _law_ | florian_kc, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/keylaunch_clamshell.patch |
| 11:12.46 | _law_ | florian_kc, could you look at it, with that patch gpe-conf key build correct .keylaunchrc files |
| 11:12.53 | florian_kc | hrw|work: uh... looks like a packaging problem. i think i can fix that easily |
| 11:15.13 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home: looks like you had some success finding backgrounds :-) |
| 11:15.40 | CoreDump|home | indeed heh |
| 11:15.53 | koen | CoreDump|home: when bootsplash runs /etc is still RO :( |
| 11:16.18 | CoreDump|home | huh? can't be |
| 11:16.35 | CoreDump|home | well, at least not in .dev |
| 11:16.41 | koen | the error says 'read only filesystem' |
| 11:16.43 | _law_ | but all my gpe-conf stuff to http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/ |
| 11:16.44 | koen | from .dev |
| 11:16.46 | CoreDump|home | oops |
| 11:17.01 | CoreDump|home | maybe altboot remounted rw |
| 11:17.21 | CoreDump|home | koen: I'll fix that |
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| 11:19.38 | _law_ | florian_kc, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/ |
| 11:19.44 | CoreDump|home | ~lart locale-base |
| 11:21.34 | CoreDump|home | ~lart kernel 2.6 for messing with jffs2 |
| 11:21.55 | florian_kc | _law_: okay, i'll check as soon as i have a free minute |
| 11:34.35 | _law_ | next step ist to get fn 1 -4 working :-) |
| 11:34.45 | _law_ | is there an zoom function? |
| 11:35.57 | CoreDump|home | _law_: your .keylaunchrc fixes the problem on akita. the browser is launched with the Home key tho |
| 11:35.57 | florian_kc | hmm... not really... |
| 11:36.11 | koen | xrandr to qvga? |
| 11:36.26 | koen | I bet kdrive doesn't support virtual desktopsizes |
| 11:37.18 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, nice so keylaunch bug is away? |
| 11:37.33 | CoreDump|home | correct |
| 11:38.19 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, could you also try to build gpe-conf with my patch and add key-* file to /etc/gpe |
| 11:39.03 | CoreDump|home | _law_: sorry, don't have a .oz build env ATM |
| 11:39.09 | _law_ | hrw|work, it looks like we are one step forward :-) |
| 11:39.14 | hrw|work | _law_: good |
| 11:39.24 | hrw|work | too bad that noone here has poodle or tosa |
| 11:40.31 | hrw|work | I'll build gpe-conf 0.1.30-r2 with law patch |
| 11:41.00 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/gpe-conf |
| 11:42.19 | CoreDump|home | nice |
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| 11:42.42 | _law_ | does the current keylaunch work with ipaq devices? |
| 11:43.07 | florian_kc | yes |
| 11:45.50 | hrw|work | NOTE: Applying patch 'keylaunch_clamshell.patch' |
| 11:46.08 | _law_ | hrw|work, dont forget the key-layout file, without this version it doesnt work |
| 11:46.37 | hrw|work | _law_: that thing I will leave for coredump |
| 11:47.23 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: gpe-conf in same place as images |
| 11:47.24 | _law_ | hrw|work, ok, we have to find a way do switch between key-layout files. |
| 11:47.26 | CoreDump|home | layout? |
| 11:47.40 | hrw|work | _law_: florian_kc suggested gpe-common-data iirc |
| 11:47.40 | CoreDump|home | oh keymaps |
| 11:47.52 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/key-layout |
| 11:48.19 | CoreDump|home | _law_: ummm, what does that do? |
| 11:48.27 | CoreDump|home | ~lart dropbear |
| 11:48.40 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, build the correct layout file for gpe-conf keys |
| 11:48.55 | CoreDump|home | right, will do so |
| 11:49.07 | CoreDump|home | still fighting dropbear ATM |
| 11:49.11 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, you also could add http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/key-commands |
| 11:49.44 | _law_ | added Mail command and modified web command |
| 11:50.21 | CoreDump|home | this frelling thing won't log me in |
| 11:50.28 | pb__ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 11:52.36 | _law_ | hi pb__ |
| 11:54.11 | pb__ | hi _law_ |
| 12:00.53 | justalad | Hi, all! Any plans to make new install images for familiar 0.8.3 with last updates? |
| 12:04.41 | florian_kc | hi pb__ |
| 12:04.53 | florian_kc | hi justalad |
| 12:05.09 | florian_kc | justalad: i fear we currently lack someone who would do this... |
| 12:05.32 | florian_kc | I would do if i had a little bit more time... |
| 12:06.22 | hrw|work | normally koen did it, but he does not maintain familiar anymore |
| 12:07.48 | justalad | florian_kc, I can be a voluntary tester if needed ;-) |
| 12:08.23 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:11.53 | justalad | why koen does not maintain familiar? |
| 12:11.56 | CoreDump|home | _law_: I've managed to sort out dropbear and just installed your gpe-conf. What do you want me to do now? |
| 12:12.31 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: /tmp is not mounted as tmpfs on akita, is that intentional? |
| 12:12.43 | koen | justalad: some other people wanted to maintain it, so I let them |
| 12:13.20 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: its symlink to /var/tmp/ and /var is tmpfs |
| 12:14.01 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 12:14.02 | CoreDump|home | root@akita:/var/tmp# mount /var/tmp/ |
| 12:14.02 | CoreDump|home | Can't find /var/tmp in /etc/fstab |
| 12:14.20 | hrw|work | mount /var |
| 12:14.20 | CoreDump|home | root@akita:/var/tmp# mount|grep tmp |
| 12:14.20 | CoreDump|home | root@akita:/var/tmp# |
| 12:14.30 | justalad | They neglects their duty :-) |
| 12:14.43 | CoreDump|home | root@akita:/var/tmp# mount|grep var |
| 12:14.43 | CoreDump|home | root@akita:/var/tmp# |
| 12:14.45 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 12:15.37 | CoreDump|home | manual mount of /var works |
| 12:15.48 | _law_ | cp key-layout to /etc/gpe/ |
| 12:16.10 | _law_ | you also could cp key-commands |
| 12:16.21 | _law_ | from http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/ |
| 12:17.22 | CoreDump|home | done and done |
| 12:18.01 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, doest it work ? |
| 12:18.24 | CoreDump|home | I'm not sure what I should test in the first place lol |
| 12:19.27 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, open key configuration , change something, reboot gpe, test :-) |
| 12:19.39 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 12:20.38 | hrw|work | reboot == relogin |
| 12:20.58 | CoreDump|home | well, hrw|work's gpe-conf doesn't show the button picture and your's isn't build against test5 =) |
| 12:21.23 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: copy button picture too then |
| 12:21.35 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: my gpe-conf is default one with law patch |
| 12:21.41 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 12:21.48 | CoreDump|home | ok |
| 12:25.18 | hrw|work | keylauncher on other Z probably is fscked too anyway |
| 12:25.45 | CoreDump|home | well, the darn thing is showing the iPAQ buttons |
| 12:26.40 | _law_ | perhaps i ?ll find some time and reflash my collie to gpe test5 |
| 12:27.14 | CoreDump|home | _law_: lol |
| 12:27.28 | CoreDump|home | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-conf/key-layout |
| 12:27.48 | CoreDump|home | something rewrote key-layout while i wasn't looking |
| 12:29.32 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, the ipkg installation ? |
| 12:30.12 | CoreDump|home | possibly |
| 12:36.49 | CoreDump|home | _law_: all files work fine on akita |
| 12:37.06 | CoreDump|home | but I'll send you a photo of the cxxxx buttons for gpe-conf =) |
| 12:37.13 | CoreDump|home | (later) |
| 12:37.22 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, ok |
| 12:37.37 | CoreDump|home | very nice |
| 12:37.43 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, and changing apps in gpe-conf also works? |
| 12:37.44 | CoreDump|home | _finally_ the Home key woks |
| 12:37.50 | CoreDump|home | _law_: yes |
| 12:38.00 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, nice |
| 12:38.08 | CoreDump|home | _law_: thanks =) |
| 12:38.45 | _law_ | now we have to wait for a new gpe-conf release, looking to florian_kc :-) |
| 12:39.15 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: for whatever reason, neither /var nor /media/ram is mounted automatically |
| 12:41.19 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: with bootstrap which I generated or with test5 images? |
| 12:41.35 | CoreDump|home | test5 gpe |
| 12:41.56 | hrw|work | hmm.. worksforme on c760 |
| 12:42.14 | CoreDump|home | the entries in fstab are there |
| 12:43.12 | _law_ | hmm /var we also have to find a way to save bluetooth pairing after a reboot |
| 12:46.30 | XorA | _law_: mount -o bind /etc/bluetooth /var/bluetooth ? |
| 12:49.57 | _law_ | XorA, have you tried this? |
| 12:50.30 | XorA | _law_: no, but sounds good as a quick fix and can be put in fstab |
| 12:50.55 | _law_ | XorA, right |
| 12:53.21 | _law_ | XorA, tc/bluetooth/pairings with /var/lib/bluetooth |
| 12:54.37 | XorA | _law_: I dont actually have my BT card running at moment, I might play later |
| 12:57.01 | _law_ | XorA, do you know the fstab syntax? |
| 12:58.59 | XorA | /etc/bluetooth/pairins /var/lib/bluetotth bind defaults 0 0 if I remeber right |
| 12:59.17 | XorA | or maybe none bind 0 0 |
| 12:59.55 | CoreDump|home | bind,defaults |
| 13:01.12 | XorA | but my memeory is blanked |
| 13:04.51 | _law_ | mount: Mounting /etc/bluetooth/pairing on /var/lib/bluetooth failed: No such device |
| 13:05.05 | _law_ | /etc/bluetooth/pairing /var/lib/bluetooth bind defaults 0 0 |
| 13:06.16 | koen | bind,defaults ? |
| 13:08.15 | CoreDump|home | great, /sbin/runlevel" in .oz is fucked |
| 13:08.30 | CoreDump|home | returing runlevel 5 at runlevel -1 |
| 13:08.50 | CoreDump|home | this soooo breaks altboot |
| 13:09.36 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I got 'N 5' as 'runlevel' output |
| 13:09.44 | CoreDump|home | yes |
| 13:10.01 | CoreDump|home | problem is it returns the same damn thing while in init=/bin/sh |
| 13:10.12 | CoreDump|home | it should return "unknown" |
| 13:10.19 | hrw|work | ah.. cannot test it - no altboot on c7x0 |
| 13:10.42 | CoreDump|home | not my fault, would be easy enough to add =) |
| 13:11.03 | CoreDump|home | and it doesn't work with 2.4 due to that bug anyways |
| 13:13.07 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I think I know why this is =) Has to do with /var not beeing tmpfs |
| 13:13.29 | hrw|work | maybe |
| 13:13.43 | CoreDump|home | " Runlevel reads the system utmp file (typically /var/run/utmp)" |
| 13:13.58 | CoreDump|home | and since the old utmp is still there.... |
| 13:14.08 | CoreDump|home | (at init=/bin/sh time) |
| 13:14.29 | CoreDump|home | anyways, gotta go to work, later all |
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| 13:17.39 | reenoo | morning |
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| 13:27.38 | hrw|work | hi Rene |
| 13:27.59 | reenoo | hey Marcin |
| 13:29.27 | hrw|work | reenoo: looks like finally we progressing with that ugly keylaunch |
| 13:30.05 | reenoo | hrw|work, ah, very good |
| 14:07.35 | pb__ | hi reenoo |
| 14:07.44 | reenoo | hey pb__ |
| 14:08.20 | rob_w|mis | guys ., how can i get libgpe for x86 ? sorry for that dump one maybe |
| 14:08.40 | reenoo | err.. build it? |
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| 14:49.34 | koen | _law_: do you have those tinymaul .bbs online somewhere? |
| 14:51.16 | florian_kc | rob_w|mis: .. or debian, but this ine is rather old. |
| 14:51.23 | florian_kc | s/ine/one |
| 14:53.09 | _law_ | koen, mom |
| 14:54.25 | _law_ | koen, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/tinymail/ |
| 14:54.37 | _law_ | but i think the patch isnt required anymore |
| 14:56.55 | koen | ok, I'll try those in a few minutes |
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| 15:02.45 | rob_w|mis | hmmm i see ... |
| 15:02.48 | rob_w|mis | thanks |
| 15:03.05 | _law_ | koen, you have to add imap server via gconf-2 tool |
| 15:22.23 | _law_ | wow today there is also an preview window in tinymail :-) |
| 15:28.19 | koen | _law_: can it send/receive already? |
| 15:28.48 | _law_ | koen, recieve yes send no |
| 15:29.40 | _law_ | koen, look at https://svn.cronos.be/svn/tinymail/trunk/tinymail/tny-account-store.c |
| 15:29.56 | _law_ | function tny_account_store_add_account |
| 15:30.24 | _law_ | there you can find how you could configure mail-account :-) |
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| 17:07.26 | law_ | hmm how can i read bot mails? |
| 17:07.26 | koen | botmail read |
| 17:07.34 | law_ | botmail read |
| 17:08.06 | law_ | koen: where ? doesnt scho anything |
| 17:08.06 | koen | law_: you'd want something like 'ibot: botmail read' or '~botmail read' |
| 17:08.27 | law_ | ibot: botmail read |
| 17:08.59 | law_ | ok this works |
| 17:09.23 | law_ | florian_kc: read your message form yesterday |
| 17:09.51 | law_ | florian_kc: will release network-profiles today or tomorrow |
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| 18:34.54 | reenoo | re |
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| 18:44.21 | law_ | could someone tell me how i can run app from my desktop on my Z ? |
| 18:44.39 | koen | export DISPLAY=<ip of z>:0 |
| 18:44.49 | koen | and 'xhost +' on the z |
| 18:44.55 | koen | that's the quickest way |
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| 19:00.52 | Philippe | hello all |
| 19:01.10 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 19:03.13 | jcole | florian_kc france: sounds like ubuntu embedded needs someone(s) to grab it by the horns |
| 19:03.14 | jcole | florian_kc france: having an ubuntu-gpe would be monumental though |
| 19:03.39 | Philippe | hey koen |
| 19:03.52 | Philippe | jcole, is there already some kind of embedded ubuntu? |
| 19:04.01 | florian_kc | re |
| 19:04.11 | florian_kc | jcole: indeed |
| 19:04.17 | koen | Philippe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu |
| 19:04.35 | jcole | Philippe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu |
| 19:04.38 | jcole | heh |
| 19:06.23 | jcole | florian_kc: maybe a gpe roadmap suggestion? http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPERoadmap |
| 19:07.36 | florian_kc | sure |
| 19:08.58 | florian_kc | law_: okay cool, i'll try to integrate your patches asap, but today will be difficult. |
| 19:09.30 | jcole | Philippe: "GPE will be used as reference graphical environment." |
| 19:09.41 | law_ | florian_kc: ok but i havent test this patches with an ipaq device |
| 19:09.47 | law_ | only clamshell |
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| 19:10.34 | jcole | would probably be called "ubuntu-embedded" (like "ubuntu-desktop", "kubuntu-desktop", etc.) |
| 19:12.32 | florian_kc | law_: i can do that easily, i just need some free minutes... |
| 19:12.32 | jcole | florian_kc: if you guys wanted to start something, mdz in #ubuntu-devel is your guy (https://launchpad.net/people/mdz) according to lamont |
| 19:12.57 | florian_kc | jcole_brb: okay, thanks |
| 19:15.31 | Philippe | jcole_brb, sounds great |
| 19:16.21 | Philippe | florian_kc, who did the original plucker port? |
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| 19:19.26 | florian_kc | Philippe: nilsf |
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| 19:20.16 | florian_kc | Philippe: If we can port fbreader it might be easier, the plucker code is a major pain. |
| 19:20.47 | Philippe | florian_kc, indeed... seems that some of the crashes are related to the port of the plucker libraries... |
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| 19:23.49 | florian_kc | law_: #1560 :-) |
| 19:24.11 | law_ | florian_kc: :-) |
| 19:26.54 | florian_kc | ibot: seen mallum? |
| 19:26.56 | ibot | mallum <n=mallum@host86-136-17-6.range86-136.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 7d 1h 5m 56s ago, saying: 'CosmicPenguin: maybe I will be able to get to get it togeather to come also'. |
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| 19:55.17 | law_ | hmm i think keylaunch doesnt work with shift + key or altgr + key :-( |
| 19:56.45 | law_ | or doesn anybody know why keycode 12 = 3 numbersign F18 (in xmodmap file) doesnt work |
| 19:57.42 | pigeon | pgas: ah, ok, thanks. |
| 20:02.00 | law_ | ah okay keylauncher only doesnt know fn key :-( |
| 20:05.31 | pb_ | keylaunch shouldn't need to know. |
| 20:05.33 | pb_ | what does xev say? |
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| 20:09.30 | law_ | pb_ i want keylauncher only do start app if i press fn+3 |
| 20:09.57 | law_ | i get it to work with alt or ctrl or ctrl+alt + 3 |
| 20:10.14 | law_ | fn which is altgr doesnt work :-( |
| 20:10.44 | pb_ | what does xev say? |
| 20:11.46 | law_ | pb_ what does xev say to what? |
| 20:11.57 | pb_ | when you press fn+3 |
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| 20:13.47 | law_ | it shows the do keycodes |
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| 20:14.51 | law_ | pb_ fn : keycode 69 |
| 20:15.07 | law_ | pb_ 3: keycode 12 |
| 20:15.36 | pb_ | sounds like the xserver doesn't understand that fn is meant to be a modifier |
| 20:17.51 | law_ | pb_ do you know how i can change this |
| 20:19.46 | pb_ | I guess the easiest way would be to map Fn as Mode_switch or something, unless you have another key mapped to that already. |
| 20:20.51 | law_ | pb_ i already use fn +o,u,a for german umlauts |
| 20:21.00 | law_ | and they work |
| 20:21.31 | pb_ | ah, okay. in that case, it does sound the fault is in keylaunch. |
| 20:22.22 | law_ | pb_ yes because it doesnt support altgr key i think |
| 20:22.44 | pb_ | mm, right. I guess it must be operating on keycodes, not keysyms. |
| 20:23.01 | law_ | only cltrl shift and alt are supported |
| 20:23.11 | pb_ | that is unfortunate |
| 20:23.16 | pb_ | would you like to make a patch |
| 20:23.16 | pb_ | ? |
| 20:23.42 | law_ | pb_ i cant find anything in the keylaunch source code :-( |
| 20:25.18 | pb_ | law_: look for the place that says: |
| 20:25.19 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.20 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.23 | pb_ | and similar things |
| 20:27.23 | pb_ | what was the "state" value in the output from xev? |
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| 20:28.44 | law_ | pb_: http://pastebin.com/567342 |
| 20:29.20 | pb_ | okay, so it seems that Mode_switch is Mod4 |
| 20:30.12 | law_ | si its Mod4Mask; |
| 20:38.42 | koen | law_: tinymail is missing some depends, fixing it now |
| 20:39.04 | law_ | koen: ok have you tested it yet? |
| 20:39.17 | law_ | pb_ this works :-) |
| 20:39.35 | koen | law_: trying to build it right now |
| 20:39.45 | pb_ | law_: okay, excellent |
| 20:40.18 | law_ | pb_ changed ShiftMask to Mod4Mask and now it works :-) |
| 20:42.58 | law_ | pb_ should i try to add a 4 method or should i replace shift (which is normale used for other things), so florian doesnt need do do anything on gpe-conf code :-) |
| 20:42.58 | koen | law_: I'll check it into .dev when it works |
| 20:43.19 | law_ | koen: ok cool, since today there is an mail preview :-) |
| 20:44.12 | koen | yay! |
| 20:46.32 | pb_ | law_: probably best to add an extra one. Some people might be using shift for weird purposes, and it would be impolite to break that stuff. |
| 20:46.51 | law_ | pb_: ok |
| 21:00.20 | koen | | ./tny-msg-mime-part.h:25:35: error: camel/camel-mime-part.h: No such file or directory |
| 21:00.23 | koen | hrm |
| 21:04.03 | law_ | koen: have you applied my camel patch in eds ? |
| 21:07.29 | koen | yes |
| 21:13.45 | koen | law_: tinymail is in |
| 21:14.05 | law_ | koen: yay thanks |
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| 21:25.00 | law_ | brightness key also works now, but keylaunch is ah little bit slow :-( |
| 21:30.16 | koen | see you |
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| 21:42.23 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 22:06.35 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 22:06.39 | florian | re |
| 22:07.07 | koen|tv | florian: wb |
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| 22:13.50 | florian | hi bedboi |
| 22:16.32 | bedboi | hi florian |
| 22:17.22 | law_ | hi florian |
| 22:18.00 | law_ | pb__: keylaunch now also supports altgr |
| 22:19.40 | pb_ | rock |
| 22:23.30 | florian | law_: cool |
| 22:23.42 | florian | What happened to cvs.handhelds.org? |
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| 22:26.14 | law_ | florian: now i can control zoom in/out and brightness up/down buttons on my Z :-) |
| 22:26.52 | koen|tv | law_: zoom via xrandr or via w100fb? |
| 22:27.14 | law_ | koen|tv: i can control zoom buttons :-) |
| 22:27.27 | koen | aha |
| 22:27.44 | law_ | brightness up/down works but is a little bit slow :-( |
| 22:28.03 | koen | hmmm |
| 22:28.09 | koen | xosd would be nice for that |
| 22:31.25 | law_ | koen|tv: right |
| 22:33.54 | reenoo | a notification in the panel would probably do |
| 22:34.23 | koen | although changing brightness is pretty obvious |
| 22:34.58 | reenoo | right, might get annoying |
| 22:35.10 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:35.14 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 22:46.44 | law_ | hi CoreDump|home |
| 22:47.17 | law_ | i am now able to access zoom in/out and brightness up/down keys :-) |
| 22:47.32 | law_ | brightness up/down also works now |
| 22:47.57 | law_ | will post patches and updates tomorrow |
| 22:49.20 | law_ | could someone draw a keyboard layout for gpe-conf (like the one for the ipaq) ? |
| 22:50.21 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: oops, the Akita didn't survive a lengthy suspend with test5. |
| 22:52.06 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 22:52.40 | law_ | n8 all |
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| 23:00.34 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:00.51 | lamikr | good night, see you brussel on friday |
| 23:19.00 | bedboi | doh, i have to install windows on my brother's laptop |
| 23:19.06 | bedboi | which has a broken cd-reader |
| 23:19.11 | bedboi | and it can't boot from usb |
| 23:19.18 | bedboi | but i have an usb cd-rom reader |
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