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| 01:16.06 | vtrowel | florian, would you know why gpe-filemanager works with ftp, but with smb it says "invalid URI"? i have both gnome-vfs-plugins-ftp and gnome-vfs-plugins-smb installed |
| 01:17.17 | vtrowel | i imagine it's a problem with gnome-vfs rather than gpe-filemanager, but just wondering if you had a clue... |
| 01:17.33 | florian | vtrowel: hmm... not really, i didn't see this effect before. are all requirements (like libsmbclient) installed? |
| 01:17.38 | vtrowel | yup |
| 01:18.18 | vtrowel | "invalid URI" would make me think it's just not even realizing that gnome-vfs-plugins-smb is installed at all.. but then I don't know how it works |
| 01:19.06 | vtrowel | i'm not sure if i have another program that uses gnome-vfs to test it with.. |
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| 02:00.52 | florian | good night |
| 02:01.02 | reenoo | 'night florian |
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| 09:44.55 | rob_w | hi pb_ |
| 09:50.23 | ade|desk | morning folks |
| 09:55.19 | pb__ | hi rob_w |
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| 12:12.27 | rob_w | busybox fails to create the link to sh ?!? |
| 12:24.13 | pb__ | that sounds unfortunate |
| 12:24.24 | pb__ | hi ph5 |
| 12:27.13 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 12:27.33 | pH5 | pb__: did you manage to linuxify that hx4700 of yours? |
| 12:28.10 | pb__ | not yet; I had to rush to Paris for a meeting. I'll make that my mission for today though. |
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| 12:28.55 | pb__ | right now it's sitting in a cradle on my desk at the office with the bootldr installed but no rootfs |
| 12:29.33 | dc__ | morning |
| 12:29.40 | koen | hey dc__ |
| 12:29.41 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 12:30.08 | pb__ | g'day dc |
| 12:32.56 | koen | rob_w: do you have an ipk for expose-light lying around? |
| 12:37.01 | koen | pb__: libgtkstylus has a nasty interaction with the gpe file selector |
| 12:37.13 | pb__ | oh dear |
| 12:37.16 | pb__ | what's the interaction? |
| 12:38.10 | koen | the keyboard pops up and the fileselector suddenly gives you the 'selection' textentry dialog |
| 12:39.31 | pb__ | okay. I'll take a look at that presently. |
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| 13:14.56 | pb__ | heading to the office now, bbiab |
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| 14:53.03 | koen | http://www.fosdem.org/2006/index/dev_room_embedded |
| 14:53.05 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 14:53.16 | Philippe | hello there |
| 14:53.19 | Philippe | koen, :-) |
| 15:03.29 | koen | I have a great song for that |
| 15:11.07 | Philippe | koen, :-) |
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| 15:20.45 | rob_w | koen, no ipk for expose-light .. matchbox-themes-extra is a bit strange on its own |
| 15:21.43 | koen | rob_w: someone is looking for that theme (see gpe@) |
| 15:22.33 | rob_w | i dont have that mailing list ..there was that smtp problem which prevent me to take part |
| 15:29.25 | rob_w | why is busybox failing on me .. it doesnt make the sh link |
| 15:29.43 | pb_ | sounds like a bug |
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| 15:32.55 | rob_w | koen i can provide the changed iconrc to bugzilla .. |
| 15:35.25 | rob_w | hmm also the working bb file of busybox of the dev tree fails inside oz354fam083 |
| 15:36.00 | rob_w | ls |
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| 15:49.23 | koen | pb__: did the flashing of your hx succeed? |
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| 16:02.44 | wiselynx | hi everybody ^_^ |
| 16:03.35 | koen | hey wiselynx |
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| 16:06.20 | florian | hi all |
| 16:06.26 | koen | hey florian |
| 16:08.15 | wiselynx | can someone suggest me a good editor for gpe? i'd like something with tabs and code highlighting.. |
| 16:11.40 | koen | mrxvt + vim ;) |
| 16:12.07 | CoreDump|home | yuck |
| 16:12.30 | wiselynx | koen, thanks, I'll give it a try |
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| 16:45.30 | pb_ | florian: good afternoon |
| 16:45.55 | pb_ | pH5: doh, I just get "can't read control file" from the reflasher |
| 16:47.27 | florian | pb_: Hello! Any idea what could cause a SCSI controler not to detect a disk automatically? |
| 16:47.44 | florian | Adding it manually and it works without any trouble... |
| 16:52.13 | pb_ | florian: that's odd. do you get any messages when the scsi driver is doing its bus scan? |
| 16:52.56 | pb_ | might be worth checking you don't have a bus id clash or anything obvious like that. |
| 16:53.03 | florian | pb_: Nothing i didn't expect... |
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| 16:54.12 | florian | pb_: Yeah... that was my first idea. But i only have a controller and a single disk, terminators and power for them. |
| 16:55.04 | pb_ | how strange |
| 16:55.58 | florian | Yep... i have seen many strange things with SCSI, but thats new. Wouldn't be that bad if this wouldn't be the boot drive. |
| 16:56.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:56.12 | pb_ | that is unfortunate |
| 16:57.21 | pH5 | pb__: the bootldr was a little picky about the location of the reflash.ctl file. I think it has to be on a FAT16 (or was it FAT32? mine was formatted by my camera) file system in the first primary partition of the CF. |
| 16:58.50 | CoreDump|home | Is there a deticated GPE bugtracker? |
| 16:58.58 | CoreDump|home | dedicated w |
| 16:59.17 | florian | CoreDump|home: hh.org bugzilla |
| 16:59.38 | CoreDump|home | florian: thanks |
| 16:59.44 | florian | so... no, not really dedicated :-) |
| 17:00.27 | pb_ | pH5: heh, yeah, I remember it well. I wrote that code. |
| 17:00.42 | pb_ | I think I have managed to prevail by reformatting the card as FAT16 and copying the files in a different order. |
| 17:01.25 | pb_ | oh, drat, now I lose again |
| 17:01.33 | pb_ | I managed to flash the kernel, but now it's gone back to not being able to read the control file |
| 17:02.23 | pb_ | ah, rebooting a couple of times has cleared that up |
| 17:03.52 | koen | pb__: pressing record for a second time usually fixes the 'control file not found' for me |
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| 17:05.05 | CoreDump|home | I take it "Settings/Screen Setup" and "Settings/Sleep Config" are supposed to work? |
| 17:05.46 | koen | everything is supposed to work ;) |
| 17:05.56 | CoreDump|home | heh just checking |
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| 17:08.08 | florian | CoreDump|home: These two are depend on the platform, but if they don't work we need to make them work. |
| 17:08.15 | florian | hi law_ |
| 17:08.17 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 17:08.29 | law_ | hi florian |
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| 17:09.36 | florian | But before i can do this i need to make my hardware infrastructure work again and make a little bit of free space in my office. |
| 17:10.34 | koen | ah, my raid array is complete again |
| 17:10.39 | koen | ~lart IDE disks |
| 17:11.23 | CoreDump|home | well, logging into bugzilla sure required patience |
| 17:11.26 | florian | oh a new one ;-) |
| 17:11.55 | koen | CoreDump|home: yeah, someone needs to remove some stuff from hh.org bugzilla |
| 17:12.03 | koen | like *locale* |
| 17:12.11 | florian | koen: bugs! |
| 17:12.23 | CoreDump|home | well that, and the login itself took 4 minutes ) |
| 17:12.45 | koen | and it crashes konq :) |
| 17:13.05 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 17:13.18 | CoreDump|home | even FF on GPE would have a had time |
| 17:13.25 | CoreDump|home | hard |
| 17:16.14 | CoreDump|home | gpe-conf_0.1.28-r1_armv5te.ipk, FWIW, that version is missing from the bugtracker |
| 17:16.46 | koen | 0.1.29 as well |
| 17:16.50 | pb_ | doh, I think my battery went flat halfway through flashing the rootfs |
| 17:16.58 | florian | oops |
| 17:17.32 | pb_ | hrm, this SIP thing seems to have defeated me also |
| 17:17.51 | florian | .de is never a good idea ;-) |
| 17:17.55 | pb_ | hehe |
| 17:19.09 | pb_ | I've written to their support guys, but I guess they won't reply until Monday now. |
| 17:19.57 | florian | I'd be surprised if it would be different. |
| 17:20.14 | pb_ | yeah, me too |
| 17:23.57 | pb_ | :-} |
| 17:24.14 | koen | my sparc has a similar config |
| 17:24.29 | florian | koen: Funny UI design: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.29306.png |
| 17:24.32 | koen | but if I plug in the cdrom it will use the gentoo HD for some reason |
| 17:24.46 | koen | florian: floating toolbar |
| 17:24.51 | koen | mb-wm fullscreens it |
| 17:25.17 | florian | heh |
| 17:25.18 | koen | florian: see http://www.jcoppens.com/soft/cbrpager/index.en.php |
| 17:25.53 | florian | ah |
| 17:27.54 | pb_ | okay |
| 17:28.04 | koen | cheers |
| 17:28.31 | pb_ | ah, very good, I see the gpe 2.7 screen |
| 17:28.33 | koen | an ipkg upgrade should fix most problems you see |
| 17:28.46 | pb_ | okay |
| 17:28.49 | pb_ | I guess I need to find a wifi card |
| 17:28.57 | koen | my hx does seem to need an extra reboot to make the ts work with kdrive |
| 17:28.59 | florian | I wonder how many componets we need for an abstracted device/power/connection/configuration backend. |
| 17:30.12 | pb_ | hrm, still "booting, please wait" |
| 17:30.20 | pb_ | this doesn't seem good |
| 17:30.33 | koen | udev needs ~7 minutes |
| 17:30.35 | pH5 | koen: for some reason /dev/fb0 is not generated during the first boot. I think there is still something wrong with the udev configuration |
| 17:30.44 | pb_ | koen: !?! |
| 17:30.58 | koen | pH5: bootsplash works on first boot for some reason |
| 17:31.19 | pb_ | what on earth is udev doing that takes seven minutes? |
| 17:31.37 | pH5 | koen: that's because it is called before udev starts to wreak havoc |
| 17:31.46 | koen | probably launching a zillion copies of hotplug |
| 17:31.55 | CoreDump|home | Bug No. 1484 and 1485 added |
| 17:32.11 | pH5 | shouldn't hotplug be removed by now anyway? |
| 17:32.11 | pb_ | ah, that's no good |
| 17:32.22 | pb_ | is anybody going to debug that? |
| 17:32.26 | koen | pH5: not with the version of udev in the release branch |
| 17:32.33 | pH5 | oh... |
| 17:33.10 | pb_ | koen: is there a strong reason not to put a newer udev in the release branch? |
| 17:33.40 | koen | major changes and like ph5 said, the removal of hotplug |
| 17:33.55 | pb_ | what's the issue with removing hotplug? |
| 17:34.01 | koen | even .dev uses a fairly old udev |
| 17:34.31 | koen | scripts and rules need to be written to ensure everything still works as expected |
| 17:35.45 | pb_ | ah, hm |
| 17:35.55 | pb_ | it just popped up a login prompt in the middle of the splash screen |
| 17:35.58 | pb_ | no X though, apparently |
| 17:36.09 | koen | yeah, a reboot fixes that |
| 17:36.13 | koen | I have no idea why |
| 17:36.30 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:36.43 | koen | everything looks ok when logging in via serial on first boot, but X doesn't seem to work the first time |
| 17:36.55 | pb_ | what happens if you try to start X manually? |
| 17:37.12 | pH5 | pb_ it fails until you generate the /dev/fb0 device node |
| 17:37.23 | pb_ | oh, right, so this is caused by the udev thing? |
| 17:38.11 | pb_ | yah, it does seem to be working now after a reboot |
| 17:39.00 | pb_ | is the internal wifi supported in these images? |
| 17:39.06 | koen | nope |
| 17:39.11 | koen | wifi still isn't working |
| 17:39.17 | pb_ | drat |
| 17:39.22 | pb_ | never mind though, I have located a cf wifi card |
| 17:39.48 | koen | iirc mreimer is working on the wifi thing |
| 17:40.20 | pb_ | oh, it didn't prompt me to enter a root password either |
| 17:40.30 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:40.31 | pb_ | seems that root password squashing didn't work during the generation of that image |
| 17:41.10 | pH5 | It's a bit difficult to debug because it only happens during first boot (before the udev package is configured?). And I think when I tried to run with init=/bin/sh and start all the scripts manually, the error didn't occur. |
| 17:41.35 | pb_ | pH5: odd |
| 17:41.57 | pb_ | but, if the udev package is outdated anyway, it might not be worth debugging in that version. |
| 17:42.15 | pb_ | probably better to put the effort towards making the new hotplug-free one work, to eliminate this seven minute waiting time |
| 17:43.07 | pb_ | doh, udhcp isn't getting a lease on my wireless for some reason |
| 17:43.18 | pb_ | it's picked up a v6 address, so the connection itself must be okay |
| 17:46.31 | pb_ | oh well, I guess I'll poke at that on Monday |
| 17:47.43 | florian | pb_: cu later |
| 17:53.04 | pb_ | actually, first, the imminence of Jan 31 reminds me that I must locate my P11 for last year |
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| 17:57.29 | pb_ | excellent, here it is! |
| 17:57.42 | pb_ | not usually so easy to locate. |
| 17:58.31 | florian | :-) |
| 17:58.34 | florian | hi dc__ |
| 17:58.51 | dc__ | ]yo |
| 17:59.07 | pb_ | right. being equipped to do battle with the taxman, really going home now. |
| 17:59.08 | pb_ | bbiab |
| 18:01.55 | rob_w | will gpe-login be able to run all themes , if i wish to ? |
| 18:03.28 | koen | rob_w: just edit /etc/X11/gpe-login.gtkrc |
| 18:04.31 | rob_w | ok i will simpley try |
| 18:18.21 | rob_w | for my alchemy board : |
| 18:18.50 | rob_w | i want tobe as close as possible to fam083 but i need old versions of gcc n stuff |
| 18:19.10 | rob_w | like it is in the nylon distro ... so what would a usable way to merge them .. |
| 18:19.30 | rob_w | a new distro named fam083-alchemy ? |
| 18:19.48 | rob_w | or should i add the gcc prefs into the MACHINE part ? |
| 18:21.59 | rob_w | or nice would a IF_MACHINE - THEN PREFFERED ... for the familiar.conf |
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| 18:42.40 | reenoo | evening |
| 18:44.24 | pb__ | hi reenoo |
| 18:44.45 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 18:44.55 | reenoo | hey pb__ |
| 18:44.57 | reenoo | moin florian |
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| 18:57.47 | pb__ | ah, cool, it seems that mallum has applied my matchbox-panel patches |
| 19:04.40 | florian | Cool.. now we need some new releases. |
| 19:04.47 | pb__ | yeah, indeed |
| 19:04.57 | pb__ | I don't think he's applied the inputmgr one yet though |
| 19:13.25 | florian | tsts... and thats the best one... |
| 19:18.16 | pb__ | yeah. I think it probably does need a bit more work though. |
| 19:18.35 | pb__ | it sounds like there are still at least a few glitches in its behaviour. |
| 19:20.00 | pb__ | florian: should I assign bug 1470 to you? |
| 19:23.06 | florian | pb__: eh.. okay |
| 19:23.19 | florian | Hmm.. maybe i should have looked what this is ;-) |
| 19:23.24 | pb__ | hehe |
| 19:23.57 | pb__ | it's the one where the "Visual effects" button in gpe-conf operates more as an "initiate Xserver malfunction" button. |
| 19:24.27 | pb__ | I don't think there's any realistic prospect of getting matchbox fixed in the near future, so I think we should disable the button in gpe-conf. |
| 19:26.23 | pb__ | meantime, I'll flash the 0.8.3-rc2 image onto my h5500 and see if any of the other outstanding bugs have been fixed. |
| 19:28.39 | pb__ | hrm, what's happened to the product list in bugzilla? |
| 19:28.59 | pb__ | looks like some components, like "bootstrap image", have been deleted. |
| 19:32.13 | florian | pb__: ah okay, i can do this... |
| 19:32.41 | florian | pb__: oh... i remember france ran some update scripts lately. |
| 19:32.48 | florian | brb, food |
| 19:32.54 | florian | s/food/feedint ime ;-) |
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| 19:43.06 | koen|tv | pb__: rc2 has the libmimedir breakage (gpe-calendar and gpe-contacts don't work), I'm building working images right now and upload them tonight |
| 19:43.26 | pb__ | okay, excellent |
| 19:43.41 | pb__ | how did this libmimedir problem occur, by the way? |
| 19:44.45 | koen|tv | by having two different (ABI compatible) so versions in staging due to a recent fix to the .bb |
| 19:45.05 | koen|tv | ld picked up .so.3 and the ipk ships .so.2 |
| 19:46.39 | koen|tv | which escapes the 'can I browse the net with gpe-mini-browser' test I perform |
| 19:48.10 | pb__ | how come ipkg's dependency checker didn't catch that? |
| 19:49.00 | pb__ | if the sonames are different, the package names should be different, and the shared library dependencies ought to have detected the problem at package install time. |
| 19:49.27 | koen|tv | probably because the 'same' ipk provided .so.3 and .so.2 during a brief period of time |
| 19:49.42 | koen|tv | mimedir shipped utils as well, so the renamer didn't do its job |
| 19:50.23 | koen|tv | the faulty ipkgs have been replaced in the feeds |
| 19:51.16 | pb__ | ah, I see |
| 19:51.21 | pb__ | is the problem with library renaming fixed now? |
| 19:51.26 | koen|tv | it should be |
| 19:51.47 | pb__ | okay, very good |
| 19:51.56 | koen|tv | florians latest fixes are in, and the images are being built from scratch |
| 19:52.42 | pb__ | righto |
| 19:53.12 | koen|tv | the image I built yesterday for the hx was fine, so I fired up a complete run for all machines |
| 19:53.17 | pb__ | as an aside on that, I'm still not terribly happy with having the images built from scratch like that. I would be much more comfortable if they were built from the feeds. |
| 19:53.38 | koen|tv | yeah |
| 19:54.19 | pb__ | what's the reason for not doing that; is it just a network bandwidth thing? |
| 19:54.33 | koen|tv | no, my failure to get the old scripts working |
| 19:54.51 | koen|tv | familiar is in bitrot city |
| 19:54.53 | pb__ | you ought to be able to do it using oe's image_ipk.bbclass, with only a small amount of manual massaging |
| 19:55.11 | koen|tv | ah, that would be a nice option |
| 19:55.20 | pb__ | you'd just need to have it point ipkg at the feed directory on familiar.handhelds.org rather than at the local tmp/deploy/ipk. |
| 19:56.53 | koen|tv | although there shouldn't be a difference between the two at the moment |
| 19:57.10 | koen|tv | OE -> feeds -> image versus OE -> image |
| 19:57.14 | pb__ | theoretically, indeed, but it'd be nice to be sure. |
| 19:57.31 | XorA|gone | koen|tv: got a newer gpdf and evince working, slight bit of massaging and I check in .bb's |
| 19:57.35 | pb__ | after all, someone might have uploaded binary packages directly to the feeds that you don't have in your copy of oe. |
| 19:57.43 | koen|tv | there is a difference right now: libgpewidget 0.107 |
| 19:57.58 | koen|tv | but that can be fixed by putting the ipk in deploy/ipk |
| 19:58.25 | koen|tv | pb__: if that someone didn't let familiar-dev know, it really shouldn't be in the images |
| 19:59.06 | pb__ | that might be the case, but the overriding priority should be to have the images and feeds be consistent. |
| 19:59.15 | koen|tv | yes |
| 19:59.40 | pb__ | in particular, if there is a broken package in the feeds, we want it to be used for the images because those are what get the most testing. |
| 20:02.15 | pb__ | I'd strongly encourage you to use the feeds next time you're building a set of images, unless there are compelling reasons why doing that is problematic. |
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| 20:06.08 | flo_770 | Hi |
| 20:06.29 | pb__ | hi flo_770 |
| 20:08.02 | flo_770 | Hrm... Someone broke the button theming here. |
| 20:08.42 | pb__ | oh dear |
| 20:10.32 | flo_770 | All buttons outside of buttonboxes don't have spacing between label and border. |
| 20:12.28 | pb__ | That doesn't sound good. |
| 20:16.39 | flo_770 | Hi pH5 |
| 20:17.23 | pH5 | hi flo_770 |
| 20:20.34 | france | pb__: hi, I never got around to running the buzilla scripts, as I found jamey had some newer scripts, that were not checked into cvs, that need to be looked at and merged. |
| 20:21.18 | pb__ | france: ah, right |
| 20:21.18 | pb__ | (and hi) |
| 20:21.25 | koen|tv | hey france |
| 20:21.29 | france | pb__: hi |
| 20:21.31 | france | koen|tv: hi |
| 20:22.07 | france | pb__: somebody a while back tried to clean up bugzilla and zapped a bunch of things. I suspect / guess that is what happened. |
| 20:22.21 | pb__ | yeah, I guess so |
| 20:22.49 | pb__ | I don't know when these things disappeared; I just noticed because I wanted to file a bug against the bootstrap image and its product wasn't there any more. |
| 20:23.13 | france | pb__: niether do I. Lots of things like this are falling apart. |
| 20:23.32 | pb__ | that said, it's not impossible that I imagined the whole thing and the product I was looking for never existed in the first place. |
| 20:23.42 | pb__ | I'm pretty sure it used to be there though. |
| 20:23.46 | koen|tv | pb__: I have no reasons to use the feeds excepts a) lack of time and skill to change image_ipk.bbclass b) thundering silence on familiar-dev@ |
| 20:24.05 | france | pb__: I thought so as well, but I could have imagined it. |
| 20:24.40 | koen|tv | but I will look in to it next week after I get back from work (~friday) |
| 20:24.52 | france | pb__: if you have some time come on over to #hhkernel |
| 20:25.53 | pb__ | koen|tv: the time required should be small, it's basically a one line change. |
| 20:25.54 | pb__ | you need to find the line in rootfs_ipk.bbclass that says |
| 20:25.55 | pb__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.05 | pb__ | and replace that file: URI with an http URI to the feed directory. |
| 20:26.46 | koen|tv | ok |
| 20:26.52 | reenoo | ideally replace the whole thing with a variable that can be overridden from local.conf |
| 20:27.04 | pb__ | reenoo: right, yeah, that would be the ideal thing |
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| 20:27.30 | reenoo | koen|tv: enjoy |
| 20:29.07 | flo_770 | Good idea... |
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| 20:29.49 | pb__ | reenoo: enjoy |
| 20:30.03 | reenoo | heh |
| 20:30.19 | reenoo | pb__: enjoy :P |
| 20:30.24 | pb__ | :-} |
| 20:31.05 | flo_770 | uh taxes :-/ |
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| 21:03.19 | puke2 | anyone know how I would go about porting gpe-nmf to the nokia 770? |
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| 21:08.06 | flo_lap | puke2: that wouldn't be too hard i guess, it is using gstreamer as backend which is present on the 770 already. |
| 21:09.14 | puke2 | how would I go about doing so? |
| 21:10.42 | puke2 | i have some of the basic gpe-libraries installed as are required by the calender todo and contacts apps |
| 21:11.09 | puke2 | I then tried copying gpe-nmf to the appropriate folder |
| 21:13.27 | puke2 | i ran it and got this error: ./gpe-nmf: error while loading shared libraries: libgpewidget.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:13.34 | flo_lap | What happenend then? |
| 21:13.45 | puke2 | after that nothing happened |
| 21:14.17 | puke2 | do I need to build nmf for the 770? |
| 21:15.48 | flo_lap | hmm strange - but todo and calendar work? |
| 21:16.02 | flo_lap | the binary should run at least... |
| 21:17.51 | puke2 | do u have a 770? maybe you could try it? |
| 21:21.39 | puke2 | btw, how do you build gpe applications |
| 21:24.16 | flo_lap | puke2: hmm yes, but no ssh access on this one. but i can try monday... |
| 21:24.56 | puke2 | cool, thx |
| 21:25.06 | flo_lap | puke2: Thats pretty simple except of the correct order of dependencies. |
| 21:26.49 | flo_lap | puke2: some packages (the pim apps, libgpewidget, libgpepimc) have configuration switches (--enable-hildon) |
| 21:28.39 | puke2 | i havnt even figured out how to build it, and when i do gpe-nmf --help i get the same error |
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| 21:29.36 | flo_lap | yes right, for some reason it doesn't find libgpewidget which is rather strange because the pimm apps seem to find it. |
| 21:29.46 | puke2 | yea |
| 21:32.07 | puke2 | is there a setting somewhere to specify the location of that file? |
| 21:33.18 | flo_lap | no... thats not part of the application... the dynamic linker takes care about this. |
| 21:33.42 | flo_lap | you can point it to it settingLD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 21:34.05 | flo_lap | puke2: ah... try "run-standalone.sh gpe-nmf" |
| 21:35.30 | puke2 | where is run-standalone.sh? |
| 21:36.16 | flo_lap | no idea... it should be in PATH# |
| 21:40.59 | puke2 | GPE-ERROR: Failed to open file '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/open.png': No such file or directory |
| 21:41.07 | puke2 | i got about 10 errors similar to that |
| 21:41.15 | puke2 | that go to different images |
| 21:43.12 | puke2 | and it actually popped up those errors in windows |
| 21:43.30 | puke2 | flo_lap: (for me thats a little progress) |
| 21:43.48 | reenoo | yeah, that's kind of expected to happen |
| 21:43.57 | reenoo | if those files are missing |
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| 21:44.16 | mimecar | hi |
| 21:45.22 | flo_lap | puke2: looks like you have the library now... good. |
| 21:45.40 | flo_lap | puke2: is this in the sdk or on a real device? |
| 21:45.46 | flo_lap | hi mimecar |
| 21:45.50 | puke2 | real device |
| 21:45.54 | mimecar | hi flo_lap |
| 21:46.26 | puke2 | im guessing I should get those images from the icon source and put them in there? |
| 21:47.42 | flo_lap | puke2: hmm well, for some reason it is searching for these icons in the wrong location or something like this. |
| 21:47.59 | puke2 | yea, I dont think they even exist |
| 21:48.46 | puke2 | i found them in gpe-icons-0.25 on the site |
| 21:49.08 | puke2 | so I think I should try putting them in the folder it expects them to be in |
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| 21:50.10 | flo_lap | puke2: there should be an installable package... but i'm not sure if it will pick up these icons. |
| 21:50.14 | flo_lap | hi bedboi |
| 22:05.29 | puke2 | woohoo! |
| 22:05.36 | puke2 | it somewhat worked |
| 22:06.09 | flo_lap | rock! |
| 22:06.31 | puke2 | it takes up the space of the keyboard, crashes when it plays a file, but it works |
| 22:06.44 | puke2 | somewhat |
| 22:09.46 | flo_lap | That might be related to a bug in the playlist or by an incompatible gstreamer backend. |
| 22:10.12 | puke2 | /usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/26x26 $ run-standalone.sh /var/lib/install/usr/bin/gpe-nmf |
| 22:10.12 | puke2 | gpe-nmf[2240]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed |
| 22:10.12 | puke2 | Segmentation fault |
| 22:10.26 | puke2 | this is what i got wihile running it |
| 22:10.36 | puke2 | the last two are when i tried to play a file |
| 22:14.41 | flo_lap | puke2: I'll build a binary which includes a fix... |
| 22:15.02 | puke2 | cool |
| 22:15.36 | puke2 | sweet, cant wait |
| 22:19.33 | puke2 | flo_lap: so u r going to finish the porting? |
| 22:20.21 | flo_lap | puke2: no... for not thats just a version including a fix for a segfault in the binary you may have: |
| 22:21.05 | flo_lap | puke2: try http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/files/gpe-nmf |
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| 22:23.24 | flo_lap | puke2: if you want to build 0.22 use the playlist-segfault patch from the same location. |
| 22:29.56 | puke2 | thx |
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| 23:07.15 | flo_lap | brb |
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| 23:21.19 | florian | re |
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| 23:23.16 | pb__ | florian: wb |
| 23:25.42 | pb__ | reenoo: wb |
| 23:25.43 | reenoo | assignment even |
| 23:25.45 | reenoo | re |
| 23:25.49 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 23:27.02 | reenoo | re pb__, florian |
| 23:29.02 | reenoo | pb__: can you think of any obvious candidates for a small, low power (ARM ?) board we could use for data acquisition (laser scanner via rs232) and telemetry (probably via bluetooth) on a mobile robot? |
| 23:33.08 | reenoo | http://rescuerobotics.informatik.uni-bremen.de/en-2-3.html <- some pictures |
| 23:33.22 | pb__ | reenoo: if that's all it's doing, I guess you could use almost any microcontroller. |
| 23:34.40 | pb__ | were you planning to make the boards yourself, or did you want something you can buy off the shelf? |
| 23:35.10 | reenoo | off the shelf would be best since we're pretty short on time... |
| 23:36.48 | reenoo | I have thought about using one of the atmegas though which we use elsewhere already |
| 23:38.05 | pb__ | yeah, an ATmega with an all-in-one bluetooth serial module would have been my suggestion. |
| 23:40.00 | pb__ | alternatively, people like Simtec will sell you a board with a little ARM-based microcontroller on. In Simtec's specific case, they use an Oki chip of some kind. |
| 23:40.47 | pb__ | Some of those boards will run uClinux, if you want. |
| 23:41.41 | florian | These Gumstix boards might be interesting, but more complex and expensive. |
| 23:42.49 | pb__ | yeah, those would be a good option if you need more power. |
| 23:43.56 | florian | Yep... and i remember some similar thing from a manufacturer in switzerland with better connectivity in SO-dimm formfactor. |
| 23:44.16 | florian | Like the Trizeps but much cheaper... |
| 23:44.18 | pb__ | hrm, this 0.8.2-rc2 image seems to be completely broken |
| 23:44.25 | florian | :-( |
| 23:44.39 | pb__ | libgcc_s.so.1 is missing, so nothing will run |
| 23:44.54 | pb__ | er, 0.8.3-rc2, of course, not 0.8.2 |
| 23:44.59 | florian | i rmember we had this a loong time ago... |
| 23:45.31 | pb__ | yeah |
| 23:45.48 | pb__ | I guess this is another good reason to use the feeds rather than building the thing from raw materials every time. |
| 23:46.30 | reenoo | pb__: this one? http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB675001DIP/ |
| 23:46.42 | florian | indeed... but i wonder what might have caused this in the sttable branch |
| 23:46.54 | pb__ | reenoo: yeah |
| 23:46.59 | pb__ | florian: I think it's just some random effect |
| 23:48.20 | florian | hrm... we need a sponsor for a proper solution. |
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| 23:53.04 | reenoo | pb__: the specs seem interesting. would need to add a bluetooth module though |
| 23:53.38 | reenoo | pb__: I like the fact that it's got an on-board FPGA |
| 23:54.23 | pb__ | I think it's only a CPLD, not an FPGA, but yeah. |
| 23:55.03 | reenoo | oh, err... I just read xilinx and though FPGA ;) |
| 23:55.08 | reenoo | thought even |
| 23:55.14 | pb__ | There are quite a few vendors who will sell you bluetooth modules with RS232 interfaces. Google should turn up a ton of them. |
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| 23:56.24 | reenoo | right. there are some under evaluation by members of our research group |
| 23:56.59 | reenoo | it will just take ages until the student project will get access to them I'm afraid :( |
| 23:57.34 | pb__ | doh |
| 23:57.50 | reenoo | an all-in-one thing (buy and use) would therefore be ideal |
