| 00:13.08 | florian | NOTE: package prismstumbler-0.7.3+cvs20060124: completed |
| 00:13.10 | florian | phew |
| 00:17.56 | reenoo | florian: excellent |
| 00:27.49 | florian | *ARGH* |
| 00:28.05 | florian | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libgps14: |
| 00:28.05 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.27 | reenoo | oh dear |
| 00:31.34 | reenoo | ~lart c++ |
| 00:31.46 | reenoo | ~botsnack |
| 00:31.46 | ibot | aw, gee, reenoo |
| 00:33.32 | florian | reenoo: looks like oe is guilty... it creates a special c++ lib |
| 00:35.12 | florian | or not |
| 00:36.03 | reenoo | special c++ lib? |
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| 00:38.37 | florian | Maybe native bindings... libgpsmm is the name of the target. |
| 00:38.44 | reenoo | if anything at all it's libgps14's build system that's at fault because it spuriously links it against libstdc++ |
| 00:39.48 | reenoo | (assuming it doesn't actually require libstdc++) |
| 00:39.55 | florian | reenoo: yes right, thats what happens :-( |
| 00:39.59 | florian | ~lart gpsd |
| 00:41.20 | florian | libgps_la_SOURCES = $(libgps_c_sources) libgpsmm.cpp packet_states.h |
| 00:41.27 | florian | That can't be good |
| 00:42.35 | reenoo | does it use anything from the standard library? |
| 00:44.11 | reenoo | otherwise it may just be libtool adding -lstdc++ for good measure |
| 00:45.32 | reenoo | (have a look at the gtk-webcore .bbs to find out how to work around that) |
| 00:45.43 | florian | reenoo: i don't think so, its just only a wrapper according to the docs. |
| 00:45.57 | florian | reenoo: okay... thanks |
| 00:48.10 | florian | reenoo: looks evil - let me try that :-) |
| 00:52.42 | florian | ~lart gpsd |
| 00:54.41 | florian | That whole thing is plain C and it pulls in C++ for that *stupid* wrapper! |
| 00:56.28 | florian | Hmm no even worse... for the examples :-/ |
| 01:02.47 | florian | ... and for gpsd itself :-( |
| 01:05.21 | florian | Hrm... something is wrong, it it meant to be c |
| 01:09.40 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 01:17.23 | orangey | hey all! |
| 01:17.30 | orangey | What's a good (or any!) pdf viewer for gpe? |
| 01:20.06 | florian | orangey: hi, depends a little bit on the device you use. |
| 01:20.19 | orangey | florian: I'm using an hx4700 |
| 01:20.40 | orangey | florian: truth be told, I'll settle for any pdf viewer at the moment : ) |
| 01:21.10 | florian | orangey: i have seen evince on this... might be worth a try and the screen should be large enough. |
| 01:21.36 | orangey | florian: SOmething is wrong with 0.8.3; evince demands dbus-0.5.0, where familiar doesn't have it |
| 01:22.22 | florian | orangey: hrm... ask on the familiar mailinglist. maybe some oe issue.. |
| 01:23.40 | orangey | and other options in the meantime? |
| 01:24.12 | florian | gpdf, but i don't even know if we have it in oe. |
| 01:24.41 | orangey | not that I found, sadly.. |
| 01:27.33 | florian | good night |
| 01:28.03 | orangey | nightie |
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| 07:25.58 | Russ | who here does work with gpe-bluetooth |
| 07:26.03 | Russ | its not acting right |
| 07:26.22 | Russ | I can do connect PAN |
| 07:26.34 | Russ | and on my server, I can see that the iPAQ connected |
| 07:26.44 | Russ | but the bnep0 device never shows up on my iPAQ |
| 07:27.43 | Russ | weird |
| 07:27.50 | Russ | my host shows the connection under pand |
| 07:28.02 | Russ | but when I do pand -l on the iPAQ, it doesn't show any connections |
| 07:34.18 | Russ | pand -c <id> does work |
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| 08:40.57 | Bilbolodz | I want to build fresh GPE image for Simpad but I got "ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_OS". What should I add in my confiuration as TARGET_OS? |
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| 08:53.34 | florian_kc | Russ: pb__ is the master of gpe-bluetooth |
| 08:53.37 | florian_kc | re, btw |
| 08:54.08 | florian_kc | Bilbolodz: linux usually |
| 08:54.40 | florian_kc | It might be worth checking if the distribution i set corrcetly too. |
| 08:57.08 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 08:58.04 | florian_kc | hi hrw|work |
| 08:58.31 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: opensimpad configs are going to be removed from .dev - use distro='openzaurus' |
| 08:58.36 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: opensimpad configs are going to be removed from .dev - use distro='openzaurus-unstable' |
| 08:59.09 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: opensimpad-0.9.0 config include openzaurus-3.5.4 config which was renamed to openzaurus-unstable in .dev |
| 09:00.57 | Bilbolodz | I'va added to my simpad.conf TARGET_OS = "linux" |
| 09:00.57 | Bilbolodz | DISTRO = "openzaurus-unstable" |
| 09:01.01 | florian_kc | Russ|iPAQ: sleeping i guess |
| 09:01.13 | Bilbolodz | Will it be OK? |
| 09:01.56 | florian_kc | Sounds good to me... |
| 09:02.05 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: TARGET_OS is set by openzaurus configs so you do not have to set it up rather |
| 09:04.42 | Bilbolodz | Not working |
| 09:04.44 | Bilbolodz | OE Build Configuration: |
| 09:04.45 | Bilbolodz | BB_VERSION = "1.3.2.1" |
| 09:04.45 | Bilbolodz | OE_REVISION = "e0cf1c32f348fa576515de8f9e230643c0247c75" |
| 09:04.45 | Bilbolodz | TARGET_ARCH = "arm" |
| 09:04.45 | Bilbolodz | TARGET_OS = "INVALID" |
| 09:04.45 | Bilbolodz | MACHINE = "simpad" |
| 09:04.47 | Bilbolodz | DISTRO = "opensimpad" |
| 09:04.49 | Bilbolodz | TARGET_FPU = "" |
| 09:04.51 | Bilbolodz | ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_OS |
| 09:04.53 | Bilbolodz | Please set them directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that sets them. |
| 09:06.28 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: use DISTRO="openzaurus-unstable" |
| 09:07.00 | Bilbolodz | set |
| 09:07.04 | Bilbolodz | already |
| 09:08.42 | florian_kc | Bilbolodz: ah i see... add this to your $TMPDIR/conf/local.conf |
| 09:12.23 | pb__ | Russ|iPAQ: just heading to my office now. I'll be back in about 20 minutes. |
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| 09:15.15 | florian_kc | moin zecke |
| 09:19.55 | Russ | pb_: I'll be asleep |
| 09:20.38 | Russ | pb_: I have a server setup as a NAP. |
| 09:20.58 | Russ | pb_: I get a bnep0 if I do a pand -c <id>, and I can bring it up and use it |
| 09:21.42 | Russ | gpe-bluetooth seems to have trouble detecting the server as something with a NAP, after some coaxing (I think manually connecting and disconnecting) it'll give the connect to NAP option |
| 09:22.01 | Russ | when I do, the server shows the connection with pand -l |
| 09:22.08 | Russ | but the iPAQ has no bnep0 device |
| 09:22.24 | Russ | when I tell gpe-bluetooth to disconnect form the NAP, the server still shows the client as connected |
| 09:23.02 | Russ | If I tell gpe-bluetooth to connect again without first killing the connection on the server with pand -K, the enable command in gpe-bluetooth will give a failure message |
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| 09:31.31 | Russ|iPAQ | hmmm |
| 09:31.59 | Russ|iPAQ | after a reboot its working |
| 09:43.01 | pb_ | Russ|iPAQ: odd |
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| 09:47.11 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 09:47.15 | bedboi | hi there florian_kc |
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| 10:24.59 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 10:31.04 | florian_kc | hi pb_ |
| 10:35.30 | florian_kc | pb_: the terminal is a problem... it doesn't use gtk. |
| 10:35.44 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah. it should be easy to patch though. |
| 10:36.30 | florian_kc | pb_: well.. if we can change it manually that should be fine. |
| 10:36.34 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:36.46 | pb_ | I was talking to someone about patching it just the other day |
| 10:37.26 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 10:41.32 | pb_ | sadly though, I don't remember who it was |
| 10:41.42 | florian_kc | hehe |
| 10:42.10 | pb_ | oh, I remember, it was Philippe |
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| 11:00.30 | Bilbolodz | florian_kc: I've got a lot of errors during building so I decided remove whole tmp dir and start from scratch. Should I apply manually any patches for Simpad? |
| 11:01.56 | florian_kc | Bilbolodz: no it should work out of the box |
| 11:02.19 | Bilbolodz | so just monotone pull and bitbake |
| 11:03.05 | Bilbolodz | ? |
| 11:03.13 | hrw|work | Bilbolodz: pull/update |
| 11:03.31 | pb_ | florian_kc: would you like to have a go at "fixing" rxvt? |
| 11:04.47 | florian_kc | pb_: "like" is the correct word... i'm currently fixing bugs and i should do business work. |
| 11:04.53 | Bilbolodz | florian: YEP update of course |
| 11:06.23 | pb_ | florian_kc: okay. me too, sadly |
| 11:07.13 | XorA | morning |
| 11:07.31 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
| 11:09.51 | florian_kc | hi XorA |
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| 11:20.11 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 11:20.23 | _law_ | hi |
| 11:20.37 | florian_kc | Someone here with an up to date GPE on a clamshell zaurus or hx4700? |
| 11:20.52 | florian_kc | hi CoreDump|home |
| 11:20.57 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
| 11:21.02 | hrw|work | I had up-to-date but it does not start X.. I have to reflash |
| 11:21.43 | florian_kc | hrw|work: rm /etc/matchbox/*key* |
| 11:21.46 | florian_kc | maybe |
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| 11:22.18 | hrw|work | florian_kc: moved keyconfig to keyconfig- |
| 11:22.23 | hrw|work | does not help |
| 11:23.19 | CoreDump|home | florian_kc: I'm about to update and rebuild my tree if that's a help. Shouldn't take to long |
| 11:27.38 | florian_kc | hrw|work: :-( |
| 11:27.58 | XorA | florian_kc: pretty upto date |
| 11:28.07 | XorA | florian_kc: I ipkg upgrade only yesterday |
| 11:30.35 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home: well... if it isn't that old i would be just happy about a screenshot of gpe-mini-browser displaying osnews.com |
| 11:30.59 | CoreDump|home | sure,hold on |
| 11:32.27 | XorA | florian_kc: should be on scap |
| 11:32.53 | XorA | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4964.png |
| 11:38.52 | florian_kc | many thanks! |
| 11:40.41 | _law_ | first working gpe-phone-manager version :-) http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6635.png |
| 11:41.29 | florian_kc | _law_: yay! thats a nice idea :-) |
| 11:42.01 | _law_ | send my first sms via bluetooth :-) |
| 11:43.03 | hrw|work | _law_: do you plan supporting multipart sms? |
| 11:43.07 | florian_kc | That reminds me to think about gpe on smartphones a little bit more :-) |
| 11:43.40 | XorA | hrw|work: just finish sms with + and start next one with + |
| 11:44.24 | hrw|work | XorA: thats all? nice to know |
| 11:44.46 | XorA | hrw|work: there is true multipart sms, but I dont think the nokia hack for multipart sms's uses this |
| 11:45.54 | _law_ | ah okay i?ll include this later |
| 11:46.07 | florian_kc | _law_: Do we know how to initiate voice calls? If we could initiate a call from gpe-contacts on a connected phone that would rock. |
| 11:46.18 | _law_ | XorA, i send via an sony ericsson k750i should this also work with + |
| 11:46.37 | hrw|work | XorA: I have nokia anyway |
| 11:47.05 | _law_ | florian_kc, i use libgnokii, there is also an voice call function |
| 11:47.46 | _law_ | i have got a lot of phones here to test (motorola, nokia, sony ericsson...) |
| 11:47.50 | XorA | _law_: I beleive so, I could be mistaken about the +, its been 5 years since I worked on SMS properly |
| 11:48.24 | XorA | _law_: but you can probably find out from looking at one on the SIM memory |
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| 11:49.28 | florian_kc | _law_: Oh cool... so we could just add a dbus service to gpe-phone-manager taking a number to call and the rest is mostly selecting a number in gpe-contacts :-) |
| 11:50.01 | hrw|work | would be nice to have inbox/outbox functionality too |
| 11:51.34 | florian_kc | indeed.... t |
| 11:52.57 | _law_ | florian_kc, same with sms (dbus-function) |
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| 11:55.46 | florian_kc | _law_: yes right |
| 11:56.03 | florian_kc | eh prays |
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| 11:56.23 | _law_ | but first i have to remove some really ugly bugs :-) |
| 11:58.19 | pb_ | _law_: ah, very good |
| 11:58.35 | pb_ | heh, I wish I could figure out why SMS on our ISDN lines doesn't work properly |
| 12:00.04 | pb_ | florian_kc: I have a C750 at home. I can take a screenshot later this evening if you want. |
| 12:01.34 | florian_kc | pb_: that one XorA made is okay |
| 12:01.42 | florian_kc | but thanks anyway |
| 12:02.53 | pb_ | righto |
| 12:04.04 | _law_ | XorA, you use .dev image or? |
| 12:05.56 | katossi_uni | I have added gpe-nmf to my custom image, and it's compiled, by I see no gpe-nmf binary in my filsesystem |
| 12:05.56 | _law_ | but first i have to figure out why my menu-fonts are so small:( |
| 12:05.59 | XorA | _law_: yes I use .dev |
| 12:06.21 | XorA | _law_: but I havent used an image for about a year |
| 12:06.44 | _law_ | XorA, any ideas why some of my fonts are so small http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6635.png <-- window boarder |
| 12:07.07 | XorA | _law_: nope, but I doubt my config has changed in a LONG time |
| 12:07.52 | XorA | _law_: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4964.png mine is normal |
| 12:08.19 | _law_ | XorA, i think this is an 100/200dpi problem |
| 12:08.52 | florian_kc | _law_: indeed... check xdpyinfo |
| 12:10.22 | CoreDump|home | FWIW I'm seeing the same uber-small fonts in a branch image |
| 12:10.56 | CoreDump|home | xdpyinfo says 640x480 / 201x200 dpi |
| 12:11.30 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/520455 |
| 12:11.42 | florian_kc | hm... i remember a time this menat to have too big fonts |
| 12:12.35 | _law_ | but gpe-mini-browser buttons looks fine now (always where too big) |
| 12:12.48 | _law_ | s/where/were |
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| 12:13.57 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home, _law_: These fonts are set to a fixed value by the theme. If one of you could look up the size in the theme files it would rock. |
| 12:14.00 | _law_ | here is my menu http://handhelds.org/scap/port.10976.png |
| 12:14.19 | CoreDump|home | where are they tored? |
| 12:14.22 | florian_kc | thats in /usr/share/themes/<current theme>/matchbox |
| 12:14.57 | florian_kc | if i imagine the screen size of a zaurus i understand the problem ;-) |
| 12:14.57 | _law_ | florian_kc, <font id="titlefont" def="Sans bold shadow 16px" /> |
| 12:14.57 | _law_ | <font id="menufont" def="Sans bold 16px" /> |
| 12:15.21 | CoreDump|home | that's large enough. no way in hell that font is 16px |
| 12:15.30 | florian_kc | indeed |
| 12:15.56 | _law_ | but changing it to somethiing else doesnt matter |
| 12:16.26 | florian_kc | Oh... i just found out that i can reproduce this on my 770. |
| 12:16.51 | CoreDump|home | _law_: you are running a .dev image, right? |
| 12:17.35 | XorA | mine says dpi 201x200 |
| 12:18.12 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, yes |
| 12:18.36 | CoreDump|home | that means whatever causes this bug was pulled into branch as well |
| 12:23.21 | florian_kc | koen|away: I have some fear that we need to fix this :-( |
| 12:24.11 | CoreDump|home | righto, can't release an image like this |
| 12:24.42 | florian_kc | XorA, _law_: Edit /etc/X11/Xserver, you need to search for your device where the server parameters are set and change 200 to 100. |
| 12:25.14 | florian_kc | hmm well, this should address all. |
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| 12:26.09 | florian_kc | koen|away and me intended to set the resolution of the screens correctly to be correct and start supporting this properly. I must admit that i think we failed... for now. |
| 12:26.50 | hrw|work | xdpyinfo show 100x100 dpi here (branch build) |
| 12:26.57 | _law_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:27.29 | florian_kc | _law_: yes |
| 12:27.47 | _law_ | mom i?ll try |
| 12:28.09 | florian_kc | hrw|work: yep... you have a newer Xserver common. and less patches to other packages.... |
| 12:28.10 | _law_ | CoreDump|home, does it work on your akita ? |
| 12:28.16 | CoreDump|home | trying now |
| 12:28.30 | florian_kc | make sure X is restarted |
| 12:28.33 | hrw|work | florian_kc: yep - but would like to get menufont bigger |
| 12:28.40 | _law_ | because there is also an -screen 480x640@270" option in aktia config |
| 12:29.00 | XorA | florian_kc: but with a dpi of 200, my fonts all look good, I think I shall not mess with that file :-) |
| 12:31.01 | _law_ | ok looks better now |
| 12:31.18 | florian_kc | hrw|work: I see... currently we suffer from the fact that the matchbox stuff is using font sizes defined by a theme file and GTK is able to set it on the fly. |
| 12:31.33 | florian_kc | We need to add a GTK based menu... |
| 12:32.33 | XorA | or need matchbox to render using GTK |
| 12:32.38 | pb_ | florian_kc: I think that just enabling XSETTINGS in the matchbox-panel build would fix that. |
| 12:32.57 | pb_ | It knows how to match its fonts to GTK if it's built in the right way. |
| 12:33.14 | florian_kc | pb_: oh indeed - |
| 12:33.17 | florian_kc | ?! |
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| 12:34.22 | CoreDump|home | florian_kc: that trick helped indeed. The font is still rather small tho |
| 12:35.12 | florian_kc | CoreDump|home: If pb_ is right we can fix that easily. |
| 12:35.45 | CoreDump|home | great |
| 12:36.17 | zecke | CoreDump|home: are you planing to go to FOSDEM? |
| 12:36.51 | CoreDump|home | zecke: I can't go, no |
| 12:37.08 | florian_kc | zecke: if you take over GTK in this process you will be fine ;-) |
| 12:39.55 | wiselynx | hi people |
| 12:40.04 | wiselynx | can I ask a question? |
| 12:40.08 | florian_kc | hi wiselynx |
| 12:40.13 | florian_kc | wiselynx: sure |
| 12:40.32 | wiselynx | it's about installing some packages on my hx4700.. |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | buu problem building glibc-2.3.5+cvs200506: Applying patch patches/arm-audit.patch |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | | patching file sysdeps/generic/ldsodefs.h |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | | Hunk #1 succeeded at 211 (offset 8 lines). |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | | Hunk #2 FAILED at 294. |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | | Hunk #3 FAILED at 366. |
| 12:43.14 | Bilbolodz | | 2 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file sysdeps/generic/ldsodefs.h |
| 12:43.16 | Bilbolodz | | patching file elf/tst-auditmod1.c |
| 12:43.18 | Bilbolodz | | Hunk #1 FAILED at 192. |
| 12:43.20 | Bilbolodz | | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file elf/tst-auditmod1.c |
| 12:43.39 | Bilbolodz | any suggestions? |
| 12:45.03 | XorA | Bilbolodz: get latest bitbake |
| 12:46.35 | wiselynx | mh.. here it is |
| 12:46.49 | wiselynx | ipkg install gpe-filemanager |
| 12:46.49 | wiselynx | Installing gpe-filemanager (0.23-r0) to root... |
| 12:46.49 | wiselynx | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/gpe-filemanager_0.23-r0_arm.ipk |
| 12:46.49 | wiselynx | Nothing to be done |
| 12:46.49 | wiselynx | An error ocurred, return value: 1. |
| 12:46.50 | wiselynx | Collected errors: |
| 12:46.52 | wiselynx | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-filemanager: |
| 12:46.54 | wiselynx | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.26 | wiselynx | the same is with evince, and a lot of other packages |
| 12:47.48 | florian_kc | wiselynx: Is this the Familiar 0.8.3 RC1 image? |
| 12:47.58 | wiselynx | mh.. let me check.. |
| 12:48.50 | florian_kc | That looks like gnome-vfs-dbus or gconf-dbus in the feed are built against a wrong dbus release. |
| 12:48.57 | wiselynx | mh.. for sure it's 0.8.3 |
| 12:49.06 | wiselynx | but I can't tell if it's rc1 or not.. |
| 12:49.20 | florian_kc | okay, ther is only rc1 |
| 12:49.21 | Bilbolodz | XoRA: I've bitbake 1.3.2.1 |
| 12:49.27 | wiselynx | I took it from here http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/install/files/ipaq-pxa270/gpe/ |
| 12:50.13 | wiselynx | florian_kc, are there problems with rc1? |
| 12:50.46 | Bilbolodz | [bilbo@pc-bilbo bitbake]$ bitbake --version |
| 12:50.47 | Bilbolodz | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.2.1, bitbake version 1.3.2 |
| 12:51.24 | florian_kc | wiselynx: of course... but thats something new to me and shouldn't have happened building the feed for the rc. |
| 12:51.41 | florian_kc | wiselynx: can you file a bug against that in oe bugzilla? |
| 12:51.47 | wiselynx | sure.. |
| 12:54.18 | XorA | Bilbolodz: looks like you need latest svn, which is requirement to work on .dev tree |
| 13:04.26 | florian_kc | bbl, food |
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| 13:33.27 | katossi_uni | anyone using gpe-nmf? |
| 13:37.39 | wiselynx | katossi, let's say yes.. |
| 13:37.47 | wiselynx | i gave it a try ^_^ |
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| 13:49.50 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:50.23 | wiselynx | wb florian_kc |
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| 13:53.47 | florian_kc | pb__: do you have the power to update the bugzilla product version? |
| 13:57.48 | katossi_uni | ok, let's see if this is right |
| 13:58.52 | katossi_uni | if I modify meta-gpe-bb, and add gpe-nmf to, for instance, gpe-task-base, I should get a gpe-image with gpe-nmf on it |
| 13:58.56 | katossi_uni | am I missing something? |
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| 14:00.30 | florian_kc | katossi_uni: yes... but you can install it separately. |
| 14:02.40 | katossi_uni | florian_kc: I know, but I don't know why that is not being installed |
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| 14:09.29 | florian_kc | katossi_uni: the latest release contains a bug making it very unstable. |
| 14:09.43 | florian_kc | but i think we can easily add a fix to oe. |
| 14:10.32 | katossi_uni | gpe-nmf? but even if it's unstable I see no reason for not being installed |
| 14:10.44 | florian_kc | thats true |
| 14:11.16 | florian_kc | katossi_uni: let me try to add a fix... |
| 14:33.31 | pb_ | florian_kc: I don't think I do |
| 14:33.39 | pb_ | dc__: afternoon |
| 14:50.02 | france | florian_kc: morning |
| 14:52.16 | florian_kc | france: hi! |
| 14:52.41 | florian_kc | france: could you please run the magic bugzilla update script? |
| 14:53.58 | france | florian_kc: looking for magic script.... |
| 14:55.10 | florian_kc | france: many thanks |
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| 14:59.01 | pb_ | france: it's in the packman directory in cvs |
| 14:59.04 | pb_ | update-bugzilla.py or some such |
| 15:00.38 | france | pb_: thx... find is still finding.... |
| 15:00.58 | france | florian_kc: do we need to update the ipkgfind database? |
| 15:01.42 | florian_kc | france: maybe... we could incude the new packages from familiar rc |
| 15:02.46 | hrw|work | could you filter productlist in hh.org bugzilla? all those glibc-gconv-* etc packages makes bugzilla harder to use.. |
| 15:08.44 | france | hrw|work: sorry not enough cycles |
| 15:09.23 | hrw|work | france: ok - just had to share idea |
| 15:09.44 | florian_kc | hmmm cpu or brain cycles? ;-) |
| 15:10.03 | france | florian_kc: brain cycles. :-) |
| 15:10.19 | france | florian_kc: my brain is scheduled until 2007 |
| 15:10.58 | florian_kc | heh |
| 15:12.15 | france | pb_: I am looking at the code from cvs tools/packman/update-bugzilla.py |
| 15:12.20 | florian_kc | Is someone interested in a *hopefully* fixed gpe-nmf package? |
| 15:12.24 | france | pb_: is the list of maintainers sane? |
| 15:12.48 | france | pb_: it looks a tad crufty to me |
| 15:12.49 | florian_kc | http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/files/gpe-nmf_0.22-r1_arm.ipk |
| 15:16.46 | johnX | florian_kc: I'm going to try it in a second |
| 15:17.37 | florian_kc | pb__: that contins your playlist fix as separate patch... |
| 15:20.14 | johnX | florian_kc: I was going to try that in a second, but I need to build gst-plugins first and monotone has decided to take this opportunity to rebuild diet-x11, so I'll try it sometime later today... |
| 15:20.25 | johnX | s/monotone/bitbake |
| 15:20.47 | florian_kc | johnX: using familiar rc? |
| 15:21.01 | johnX | openzaurus-unstable |
| 15:21.17 | johnX | on an Akita |
| 15:21.30 | johnX | is this build mainly for ipaqs? |
| 15:21.47 | florian_kc | johnX: oh... you need a different one |
| 15:22.20 | johnX | ah ok, I won't try and install that then |
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| 15:27.04 | florian_kc | johnX: i'll tr it here and if it works i check it into oe... |
| 15:27.24 | johnX | ah ok |
| 15:28.00 | johnX | I use something else for music anyways so no rush... |
| 15:28.14 | johnX | I was just curious mostly :) |
| 15:31.47 | florian_kc | hrm... it still fails :-/ |
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| 15:40.54 | pb_ | france: it probably is crufty, but the list in that script is only used to canonicalise the Maintainer fields. |
| 15:41.09 | pb_ | it doesn't matter much if there are redundant entries in there, as long as none of them are actively wrong. |
| 15:45.08 | florian_kc | oh.. using less broken files it works. |
| 15:46.13 | florian_kc | s/off/ogg |
| 15:51.11 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh |
| 15:52.20 | florian_kc | I really wonder how that happened... |
| 15:53.12 | florian_kc | well... i'm checking in that patch fixing the segfault so we can have a more or less working gpe-nmf in oe. |
| 15:53.45 | pb_ | excellent |
| 15:53.57 | pb_ | is that the famous strcat() segfault or some other one? |
| 15:54.05 | florian_kc | pb_: yep |
| 15:54.11 | pb_ | cool |
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| 16:05.44 | florian_kc | pb__: libmatchbox in oe is supposed to have xsettings support. |
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| 16:23.49 | pb_ | florian_kc: I think it's matchbox-panel that matters |
| 16:24.28 | XorA | florian_kc: should get people to check the log.do_configure on builds that dont work |
| 16:30.41 | florian_kc | pb_: hmm... i didn't find an option for this... |
| 16:30.56 | florian_kc | XorA: sometimes this would be useful... |
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| 16:34.53 | XorA | florian_kc: for record from my system that doesnt have the small fonts problem even though I run at -dpi 200 is Building with XSettings: yes |
| 16:35.07 | XorA | florian_kc: for libmatchbox |
| 16:41.11 | pb_ | florian_kc: oh, you're right, it's libmatchbox that contains the code |
| 16:41.15 | pb_ | I wonder why it isn't working. |
| 16:41.53 | florian_kc | XorA: okay |
| 16:43.03 | florian_kc | libmatchbox configure says: "Building with XSettings: yes |
| 16:43.04 | florian_kc | " |
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| 16:52.10 | XorA | time for me to leave work |
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| 16:53.41 | florian_kc | hey Philippe |
| 17:04.28 | law_ | hmm gpe-filemanager doesnt start :-( gpe-filemanager: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:06.36 | law_ | symlinking helps |
| 17:08.33 | law_ | but i think gpe-filemanager doesnt support new dbus :-( |
| 17:09.30 | florian_kc | law_: it does - but it is compiled for the old one - onlx the dependency information seems to be wrong. |
| 17:09.51 | law_ | florian_kc: should i try to recompile it? |
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| 17:15.23 | florian_kc | law_: that might be a good idea, i hope koen|away can fix that easily. |
| 17:25.09 | florian_kc | law_: make sure not to have a newer dbus library in staging... |
| 17:25.56 | law_ | florian_kc: dbus-0.6 |
| 17:26.00 | law_ | 0 |
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| 17:33.12 | law_ | same problem |
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| 17:35.46 | florian_kc | law_: yes... as long as you have a later version in stagin the configure scripts might default to this one. |
| 17:35.54 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 17:36.05 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:36.07 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 17:42.43 | Philippe | evening florian_kc |
| 17:44.03 | florian_kc | heh |
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| 17:55.02 | law_ | florian_kc: how can i check what dbus version i have got in staging dir? have done bitbake -b ../bla/dbus-0.60.bb -c clean and bitbake -b ../bla/dbus-0.23.4.bb -c clean but there are dbus files in staging dir :-( |
| 17:55.24 | pb_ | florian_kc: that sounds rather dangerous |
| 17:56.52 | law_ | is it an good idea to remove dbus stuff manually from staging dir? |
| 17:57.25 | florian_kc | law_: yes - clean doesn't clean up staging, remove it manually and rebuild 0.23.4 |
| 17:58.07 | florian_kc | pb_: yeah... i feel a little bit confused |
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| 18:15.41 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 18:20.16 | pH5 | hi florian_kc |
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| 18:29.43 | pb_ | later all |
| 18:30.51 | wiselynx | people, one question |
| 18:31.07 | wiselynx | is familiar 0.8.3 rc2 safe? |
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| 18:47.42 | Skyhusker | hi all |
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| 20:28.58 | mimecar | evening |
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| 20:44.01 | florian | re |
| 20:52.41 | florian | Philippe: Do you have an idea about the user agent id gpe-mini-browser uses? |
| 20:54.15 | florian | pb__: Interesting question at familiar-dev ml. |
| 20:54.28 | florian | s/at/to |
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| 21:06.57 | Philippe | florian, none atm. I should try to find out how to set it. |
| 21:09.32 | florian | Philippe: that would be good... i'll forward you that mail requesting this. |
| 21:10.13 | reenoo | florian: let me guess.. requested by eugenia? |
| 21:10.31 | florian | reenoo: indeed... who is this? |
| 21:11.28 | reenoo | heh. you don't know eugenia? |
| 21:12.20 | reenoo | she's famous for her gnome bashing and other rather unfortunate stuff published via osnews.com |
| 21:12.33 | florian | reenoo: not yet... |
| 21:12.40 | florian | doh! |
| 21:13.05 | florian | reenoo: well... at least the gpe release got mentioned. |
| 21:13.35 | reenoo | yah. she's toned down a bit recently |
| 21:14.08 | florian | in fact osnews is not what i call a cool news site... |
| 21:16.27 | florian | Philippe: iirc there was something in the demo browser setting that... |
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| 21:27.18 | wiselynx | hi people |
| 21:27.23 | florian | hi wiselynx |
| 21:27.24 | mimecar | hey wiselynx |
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| 21:28.06 | florian | What does the kernel want to tell me repeating: "hde: hde1"? |
| 21:28.12 | florian | hello jg |
| 21:28.35 | wiselynx | nice.. just update to familiar 0.8.3-rc2, and found a broken link to a shared library ^_^ |
| 21:28.43 | mimecar | is release a zaurus image for gpe 2.7 ? |
| 21:28.47 | jg | florian: morning. |
| 21:29.14 | wiselynx | gpe-calendar searches for libmimedir-0.2, while libmimedir-0.3 is isntalled.. -_-" |
| 21:29.59 | florian | wiselynx: sounds like a problem with the staging dir of the build machine... |
| 21:30.27 | pH5 | florian: might this be the removable media mount/unmount loop? |
| 21:30.30 | wiselynx | florian, maybe.. I cannot say, I was just signaling the thing.. |
| 21:31.07 | reenoo | florian: more a problem with the soname of libmimedir I guess |
| 21:31.17 | wiselynx | anyway, just simlinking the new libs with the required name seems to quickfix the problem, even if it's not the cleanest solution ^_^" |
| 21:32.11 | florian | pH5: something like this... but what might cause it? A mount commend just returns doing nothing... |
| 21:33.19 | pH5 | the mount command called by udev causing the partition table to be reread causing a new uevent to be issued causing the mount command to be called by udev... or something |
| 21:33.33 | pH5 | richard had a patch somewhere in this thread: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/21/118 |
| 21:33.55 | reenoo | heh. sounds like fun |
| 21:34.32 | florian | reenoo: no... if someone built from a clean staging gpe-calendar should be linked agains the correct library. |
| 21:34.52 | florian | In fact we have multiple versions with both sonames in oe. |
| 21:36.28 | florian | ... so it is easy to break. |
| 21:37.11 | florian | pH5: oh - many thanks |
| 21:37.11 | reenoo | florian: well. the theory is that with properly installed libs that have a correct soname, the library renamer will kick in and the package manager will prevent this type of runtime breakage from happening. |
| 21:37.59 | reenoo | i.e. libmimedir-0.3 and libmimedir-0.2 could never be provided by the same package |
| 21:39.06 | florian | yeah, i wonder why it fails in this case... |
| 21:39.42 | reenoo | incorrect or non-existant soname |
| 21:39.47 | reenoo | probably the latter |
| 21:41.09 | _law_|iBook | night all |
| 21:41.24 | florian | yep - libmimedir_0.3.1 should be libmimedir3_0.3.1 |
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| 21:44.25 | reenoo | try inspecting it with objdump |
| 21:44.32 | florian | reenoo: any idea how the renamer works? |
| 21:45.10 | reenoo | it looks for shared object files that have an soname set |
| 21:46.59 | reenoo | essentially "objdump -x lib.so | grep SONAME" |
| 21:48.12 | florian | Here we go... "libmimedir-0.3.so.0", that looks good imho. |
| 21:48.30 | reenoo | that's just a filename |
| 21:48.51 | reenoo | oh. err. |
| 21:49.07 | reenoo | that's the ouput of objdump? |
| 21:49.12 | florian | yep |
| 21:49.37 | reenoo | is there more than one .so in the package? |
| 21:50.20 | florian | it shouldn't... good point.... |
| 21:50.52 | reenoo | in that case you'd have to set LEAD_SONAME to something that matches only one of them |
| 21:53.57 | florian | reenoo: only one .so and a link - like expected, but i guess the renamer fails because of the executables in the package. |
| 21:54.47 | reenoo | right. it doesn't like that |
| 21:58.09 | florian | aha... its fixed in dev |
| 21:59.45 | florian | Hrm... who is responsible for the openembedded.org domain? |
| 21:59.55 | reenoo | kergoth |
| 22:02.32 | mreimer | how does one debug an arm core dump? gdb-cross? |
| 22:06.37 | florian | mreimer: just the core file... in fact you can usually run gdb on the target device as well. |
| 22:07.15 | mreimer | so just build gdb and copy it over? ok |
| 22:08.38 | florian | mreimer: yes... and its dependencies (usually ncurses libs). but familiar should have a gdb package. |
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| 23:04.08 | wiselynx | bye chan |
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| 23:16.16 | Philippe | night all |
| 23:18.08 | florian | Philippe: good night |
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| 23:39.53 | pb__ | florian: which question is that? |
| 23:40.24 | florian | pb__: about tesing opie images |
| 23:40.30 | pb__ | oh, right, yeah |
| 23:40.57 | pb__ | well, that one dude seemed to think that the opie images are operating at peak efficiency, so I guess that's good news. |
| 23:41.13 | reenoo | heh |
| 23:44.56 | florian | :-) |
| 23:47.37 | pb__ | I guess one of us should do that thing with the 0.8.3-rc2 install kits that koen wanted. |
| 23:47.57 | pb__ | it seems a bit premature to make -rc2 when there are still a bunch of outstanding bugs, but I guess it's good to have new images to test. |
| 23:49.05 | *** join/#gpe vtrowel (n=paul@69.158.186.6) |
| 23:49.44 | florian | hmm.. oh right, did i forgot to read the mail? |
| 23:50.04 | pb__ | sounds like it :-} |
| 23:50.42 | pb__ | he sent that note on Sunday at about 16:00 |
| 23:51.06 | florian | :-/ |
| 23:51.11 | vtrowel | hi there.. I have koen's feed set up with ipkg. i just tried installing gnome-vfs, which pulled in a bunch of dependencies, including upgrades to gconf-dbus, gtk+, libatk, pango, etc. and I changed my mind so I hit CTRL+C before it was done. |
| 23:51.24 | vtrowel | and i reinstalled the previous versions of all of those using force-reinstall |
| 23:51.52 | vtrowel | but still, all my gpe apps are now looking for libpangocairo, which doesn't exist, and wasn't necessary before |
| 23:52.04 | vtrowel | any ideas? |
| 23:52.12 | florian | pb__: oh... i'm really a bit back. |
| 23:52.24 | florian | eh back a bit |
| 23:52.39 | florian | vtrowel: you have gtk 2.8.x installed |
| 23:53.23 | vtrowel | florian: that's what I thought. but I used ipkg with -force-reinstall and -force-downgrade to reinstall gtk 2.6 or whatever, from the familiar.hh.org feed, and still i get this problem |
| 23:54.14 | vtrowel | maybe I'll try again to be sure.. |
| 23:54.28 | pb__ | what version does "Ipkg status" think you have? |
| 23:56.36 | vtrowel | pb__: thinks I have gtk+ 2.6.10-r2. btw, I had to manually edit /usr/lib/ipkg/status and remove the entry for gtk+ 2.8 in order to force ipkg to downgrade back to gtk+ 2.6 |
| 23:56.52 | vtrowel | otherwise it kept trying to reinstall gtk+ 2.8 |
| 23:57.04 | pb__ | ah |
| 23:57.30 | vtrowel | maybe ipkg still didn't overwrite the files for some reason? |
| 23:58.23 | vtrowel | hmm.. just saw the -force-overwrite ipkg option. maybe i'll try that... |
| 23:58.36 | vtrowel | i find ipkg to be a bit of a pain sometimes |
| 23:58.46 | pb__ | yeah, it can be a bit flaky on occasion |
