| 00:02.49 | florian | vanille.de is offline |
| 00:04.13 | florian | looks like the monotone server doesn't work anymore |
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| 00:16.08 | florian | hrw: #614 contains the list... i hope i didn't miss anything important. |
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| 00:18.33 | jcole_home | according to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/ minimo supports https |
| 00:18.43 | jcole_home | does this version support it? it's the latest i can find on familiar --> http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/feed/x11/minimo_0.0cvs20050401-r8_arm.ipk |
| 00:18.51 | florian | pb_: With some luck i'm in the situation to care about a desktop/applauncher for a customer soon, that might be useful :-) |
| 00:19.52 | jcole_home | ANY https browser that i could use in gpe would be great... i don't care |
| 00:21.14 | jcole_home | i tried to install openssl to see if that would help, but it didn't |
| 00:22.26 | jcole_home | are there any tricks i can do with stunnel? |
| 00:23.06 | florian | jcole_home: I'm not sure if it works in linux... the roadmap looks good but no news and releases... |
| 00:23.18 | florian | ibot: seen dougt? |
| 00:23.23 | ibot | dougt <n=dougt@206.80.94.44> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 99d 7h 53m 16s ago, saying: 'yeah. ;-0'. |
| 00:24.58 | jcole_home | florian: do you know if the konquer embedded browser supports https? if so, can qt/opie apps run in gpe? is it safe to add opie repos? |
| 00:25.57 | florian | jcole_home: not really, qt/e doesn't use X - it wants to draw to the framebuffer directly :-( |
| 00:27.22 | jcole_home | florian: ya, that's what i heard... one reason i don't want to touch it... i like my ssh -X |
| 00:28.10 | florian | hrm... minomo hp has some info about ppc but almost nothing about linux. :-( |
| 00:28.11 | jcole_home | florian: i've never liked qt/kde.. always been gnome or xfce... gpe seems like the naturla fit |
| 00:28.32 | jcole_home | natural |
| 00:28.43 | florian | :-) |
| 00:31.58 | jcole_home | florian: i wanted to replace my wince with linux and do the same simple things i did in wince |
| 00:36.33 | jcole_home | florian: such as check my email (not in gpe), to do lists (in gpe), play my mini ripped videos (not in gpe), instant message (in gpe w/gaim), wifi/bluetooth networking (in gpe w/gpe-arial,gtkdial,gpe-bluetooth), open docs (in gpe w/abiword,gnumeric), image browsing (in gpe) |
| 00:37.36 | jcole_home | florian: an https browser would suffice for email |
| 00:37.52 | florian | jcole_home: which device do you use? |
| 00:38.28 | jcole_home | florian: hx4700 http://www.handhelds.org/projects/hx4700.html |
| 00:39.05 | jcole_home | florian: the graphics is currently framebuffer, but i don't mind |
| 00:39.19 | jcole_home | florian: i got my mini keyboard working too |
| 00:39.53 | jcole_home | florian: i use bluetooth networking to my e815 motorolla phone to the EVDO/CDMA network |
| 00:40.31 | jcole_home | florian: you'd think browsing the internet would be a common task in gpe |
| 00:40.47 | florian | jcole_home: Sylpheed should work on this and fits pretty nice. |
| 00:41.08 | florian | jcole_home: and there is a gpe ui for vlc |
| 00:41.20 | florian | jcole_home: yes... more and more. |
| 00:42.09 | jcole_home | florian: i added the 0.8.2 x11 repo... the image for this device only came with 0.8.3, where there is alot of stuff missing |
| 00:42.16 | jcole_home | florian: cool! |
| 00:42.53 | florian | jcole_home: there will be more in the release |
| 00:44.15 | jcole_home | florian: awesome... ipkg install vlc-gpe sylpheed |
| 00:46.49 | jcole_home | florian: are these apps in a how to on handhelds? you know, like somekind of wince app vs gpe app chart? |
| 00:48.04 | florian | jcole_home: not that i'm aware of... e.g. sylpheed doesn't fit on the screen of smaller devices... |
| 00:48.39 | jcole_home | florian: ok, i've got 480x640 |
| 00:50.35 | jcole_home | florian: i didn't like ipkg output unti i added "alias ipkg='ipkg -verbose_wget -V 2'" to my .profile |
| 00:51.14 | jcole_home | florian: kinda feels like apt now :) |
| 00:51.20 | florian | heh |
| 00:52.06 | jcole_home | florian: i'm running sylpheed right now via ssh -X... |
| 00:52.15 | jcole_home | florian: ya, it's pretty big |
| 00:53.33 | jcole_home | florian: good night |
| 00:54.18 | florian | good night all |
| 00:59.39 | jcole_home | how can i fake a depends? file-roller want gconf ... but i already have gconf-dbus installed... |
| 01:01.42 | jcole_home | this did the trick --> ipkg install http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/feed/x11/file-roller_2.6.1-r0_arm.ipk -force-depends |
| 01:02.22 | jcole_home | hmm, no it didn't, lol |
| 01:06.59 | jcole_home | ipkg remove gconf-dbus -force-depends |
| 01:07.01 | jcole_home | ipkg install gconf |
| 01:07.08 | jcole_home | ^^ that did the trick |
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| 01:39.07 | wlm | Hi. |
| 01:40.53 | wlm | How can I get the newly released gpe into my ipaq. ipkg upgrade? |
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| 03:08.21 | jcole_home | minimix doesn't work for me... does it only work with oss? |
| 03:08.42 | jcole_home | i mean alsa |
| 03:08.45 | jcole_home | heh |
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| 06:57.57 | orangey | hey all! |
| 06:58.11 | orangey | how can I sync my GPE calendar / contacts to vcf and ics? |
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| 08:50.29 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:26.02 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:26.19 | hrw|work | flypiper: looks like koen added some parts of gpe 2.7 into branch already |
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| 10:09.24 | florian_kc | good orning |
| 10:11.05 | hrw|work | hi florian_kc |
| 10:11.15 | hrw|work | florian_kc: looks like koen added some parts of gpe 2.7 into branch already |
| 10:11.59 | florian_kc | hrw|work: very good |
| 10:13.04 | hrw|work | not all anyway |
| 10:17.25 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 10:30.12 | florian_kc | hrw|work: Well... the notification might be broken, so far i don't even have mail from my push last night. |
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| 11:06.31 | florian_kc | hrw|work: It might be possible that some of the bits were up to date already and two changes were merged in from dominion after koens checkin. |
| 11:08.08 | hrw|work | maybe |
| 11:12.33 | florian_kc | hrw|work: Do you have OZ images for a SL-5000? |
| 11:15.55 | hrw|work | yes |
| 11:24.16 | florian_kc | Not that i had soem business work to do... ;-) |
| 11:37.17 | florian_kc | hrw|work: Hmm... i'm not sure if i like the idea to request a boot password. |
| 11:38.21 | hrw|work | florian_kc: altboot works in that way |
| 11:38.42 | florian_kc | hrw|work: why is this necessary? |
| 11:38.48 | hrw|work | I did not used it before as I dont usually need that kind of things |
| 11:39.22 | hrw|work | florian_kc: pass? altboot allow to dump to sh instead of full boot and few other nasty things - and use that pass for it |
| 11:39.25 | hrw|work | iirc |
| 11:39.37 | hrw|work | more details can CoreDump|afk tell as he wrote it. |
| 11:39.56 | florian_kc | Yes... that might be a nice toy for hackers but i'm not sure if this is a good idea for end user images. |
| 11:40.01 | hrw|work | florian_kc: altboot is by default to remove all those root-on-sd hacks which users where using |
| 11:40.22 | hrw|work | florian_kc: after first boot you can forget that altboot is installed anyway |
| 11:42.41 | florian_kc | hrw|work: ah |
| 11:43.10 | florian_kc | hrw|work: but seems to work... |
| 11:43.53 | florian_kc | Mot better than the last one :-) |
| 11:44.05 | hrw|work | image? |
| 11:44.24 | florian_kc | yep |
| 11:44.35 | hrw|work | good to hear |
| 11:44.50 | hrw|work | I need to build newer gpe stuff for it - will be in updates/ dir |
| 11:46.21 | florian_kc | Good thinking :-) |
| 11:46.59 | florian_kc | hrw|work: No netlink support in the kernel :-( |
| 11:47.13 | hrw|work | florian_kc: or no modules for it |
| 11:49.58 | florian_kc | hrw|work: it would be nice to have it enabled in the default images. things like the network status applet use it. |
| 11:50.32 | hrw|work | submit a bug for it and write where it is in kernel config - never used it before |
| 11:50.52 | florian_kc | hrw|work: ok |
| 11:54.43 | hrw|work | florian_kc: gpe-(clock, bluetooth, contacts, calendar) and libcontactsdb in updates/ |
| 11:54.57 | hrw|work | and gpe-what |
| 12:03.23 | florian_kc | hrw|work: add gpe-mininet |
| 12:04.04 | pb_ | yah, I don't think altboot should be in the standard images. It does seem like more of a h4x0r thing than a tool for normal users. |
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| 12:06.06 | pb_ | hm, I wonder why pb__ has dropped off the network. |
| 12:07.31 | pgas | hi, how to get the sources of gpe 2.7? is there a Tag in cvs or tarballs to download? |
| 12:08.01 | hrw|work | pgas: want to update pdaX feed? |
| 12:08.19 | pgas | perhaps :) |
| 12:08.23 | florian_kc | hi pgas |
| 12:08.35 | pgas | hi florian_kc, hrw |
| 12:08.49 | pgas | I heard that gpe-minibrowser is great |
| 12:09.11 | pgas | and I m intersted in gpe-sketch |
| 12:09.11 | florian_kc | pb_: RP asked about the matchbox-panel patches... did you submit them to mallum? |
| 12:09.12 | hrw|work | florian_kc: added mininet 0.7 |
| 12:09.33 | pgas | (I will try the new OZ when it's released of course) |
| 12:09.39 | pb_ | florian_kc: no, not yet. |
| 12:10.07 | florian_kc | pgas: the tarballs are the latest ones from ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects/gpe/source |
| 12:10.53 | pgas | florian_kc: thanks |
| 12:10.54 | florian_kc | But yes, we maybe should create a release subdir |
| 12:11.55 | pgas | I'am also interesting to see how my old laptop would do with a gpe environement |
| 12:13.29 | florian_kc | pgas: thats true... i always wanted to use it for my old libretto 100ct. |
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| 12:14.26 | florian_kc | hrw|work: don't forget to update libgpewidget |
| 12:15.14 | hrw|work | florian_kc: this will req rebuilding of all gpe stuff or not? |
| 12:15.30 | pgas | gpe minibrowser uses the latest cvs version of web core or the one released? |
| 12:15.52 | florian_kc | hrw|work: no, just some fixes... thats not c++ :-) |
| 12:16.05 | florian_kc | pgas: more complicated... wait |
| 12:17.24 | hrw|work | florian_kc: k |
| 12:17.58 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:18.20 | florian_kc | pgas: cvsdate 20050430 and two patches. |
| 12:20.23 | florian_kc | pgas: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/oe/gdk-colorspace.diff |
| 12:20.54 | florian_kc | pgas: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/oe/stop-load.image-loading.patch |
| 12:21.03 | florian_kc | (extracted from oe) |
| 12:21.45 | pgas | florian_kc: thanks a lot, it's noted |
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| 13:18.49 | florian_kc | RP: How does eds-dbus perform? It sounds pretty interesting but i didn't hear much about progress for quite some time... |
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| 13:29.57 | RP | florian_kc: Performance is getting better all the time... |
| 13:30.16 | RP | contacts uses it so would give you an idea... |
| 13:32.34 | florian_kc | RP: I'll try as soon as i have some spare time. What about memory footprint? |
| 13:32.34 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.com/514527 - libgpewidget 0.107 |
| 13:33.39 | RP | florian_kc: Not too bad as far as I know. I'm about the one person in OH who doesn't have anything to do with eds-dbus though :) (other than getting it building in OE) |
| 13:34.13 | florian_kc | hrw|work: ah nasty... that might be that pkg-config issue :-/ |
| 13:34.46 | florian_kc | koen mentioned a fix without updating pkgconfig |
| 13:34.53 | RP | hrw|work: koen disabled florian's pkgconfig patch in the release branch as it was causing other problems. This means 0.107 won't work though |
| 13:35.34 | florian_kc | RP: :-) |
| 13:35.52 | florian_kc | hrm |
| 13:36.23 | florian_kc | We'll need to face the fact that our pkgconfig is _terribly_ out of date and we need to fix the other packages... |
| 13:37.17 | hrw|work | or we need to update pkgconfig and fight with other |
| 13:38.00 | florian_kc | yes... that would be the best. |
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| 13:38.26 | florian_kc | hi jamey |
| 13:38.40 | hrw|work | so libgpewidget need to wait until someone fix the problem |
| 13:45.31 | law_ | florian_kc: noticed some problem with my collie if i press ctrl+c on the virtual keyboard gpe-calendar appears |
| 13:48.39 | florian_kc | law_: oh cool... i can reproduce this |
| 13:53.12 | law_ | florian_kc: with normal keyboard it also doesnt work :-( |
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| 13:56.43 | florian_kc | law_: looks like the calendar key is mapped to the same, it works as well. |
| 13:57.39 | RP | florian_kc: Did anyone actually try upgrading to pkgconfig 0.16? |
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| 14:20.50 | DataBeaver | Any idea why gxine executes an illegal instruction? |
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| 14:37.13 | pb_ | DataBeaver: what is the illegal instruction in question? |
| 14:38.13 | pb_ | law_: ctrl-c -> calendar might be a matchbox builtin keymapping. |
| 14:38.51 | law_ | pb_: hmm but how can i kill somethink like ping? |
| 14:42.21 | DataBeaver | pb_: It isn't telling. |
| 14:42.40 | DataBeaver | Wait a moment, I'll build and install gdb and check it |
| 14:42.56 | DataBeaver | law_: killall ping perhaps? |
| 14:43.59 | pb_ | law_: if ctrl-c _is_ bound to calendar, that's clearly a bug. |
| 14:44.12 | pb_ | the first step is probably to use xev and check that the keyboard is sending the keycode you think it is. |
| 14:44.28 | pb_ | secondly, check the matchbox keybindings file and see what, if anything, it's binding to the calendar. |
| 14:44.37 | pb_ | also try stopping keylaunch, just in case it's causing a problem |
| 14:45.03 | law_ | pb_ ok i?ll try |
| 14:48.48 | pb_ | mm, that reminds me that it would be nice to have keylaunch-lgl in familiar 0.8.3 as well. |
| 14:50.19 | law_ | pb_: -lgl ? |
| 15:13.18 | DataBeaver | pb_: http://databeaver.net/~tdb/gxine.degub |
| 15:15.53 | florian_kc | re |
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| 15:16.55 | florian_kc | RP: yes... but it seems to be not trivial- |
| 15:18.04 | RP | florian_kc: ah :-( |
| 15:21.43 | hrw|work | RP: why to 0.16 instead of 0.20 (latest)? |
| 15:30.26 | RP | hrw|work: Well, if doing it, we'd probablygo for 0.20 and be done with it :) |
| 15:31.06 | pb_ | law_: yah, it's a variant keylaunch which (I think) works a bit better |
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| 16:47.23 | florian_kc | koen: morning :-) |
| 16:47.59 | Russ | morning |
| 16:48.15 | florian_kc | hi Russ |
| 16:48.17 | Russ | koen: can you fix your gconf-dbus package? its missing the library |
| 16:48.40 | Russ | btw florian_kc, are you thinking of something mpd based for a gpe music player? |
| 16:48.54 | Russ | I use gmpc and it works really nice execpt the UI needs some gpe love |
| 16:49.17 | Russ | I think the ipod UI is patented, which is too bad, because it would work great on a touch screen |
| 16:49.20 | florian_kc | Russ: not yet... but that would be another idea. |
| 16:50.59 | koen | Russ: gconf-dbus is working over here |
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| 17:27.50 | koen | NOTE: package libgpewidget-0.107-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 17:28.32 | florian_kc | koen: rock! |
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| 17:32.16 | DataBeaver | pb_: did you check that debug log? |
| 17:36.55 | pb_ | ah, sorry, not yet |
| 17:36.57 | pb_ | looking now |
| 17:37.44 | pb_ | oh, that's... interesting. what machine are you running on, again? |
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| 17:44.09 | DataBeaver | Zaurus SL-C3100 |
| 17:44.57 | florian_kc | I think i fixed the ipaq-sleep resume dimmed bug... |
| 17:45.22 | DataBeaver | If I recall the illegal instruction exception semantics correctly, it's crashing on cmp r3,r5 |
| 17:45.59 | DataBeaver | Supposing it's similar to x86 |
| 17:46.08 | florian_kc | koen: hmm... why did matchbox-panel change from r5 to r7? i remember i pushed it from r5 to r6. |
| 17:47.23 | koen | florian_kc: a change to matchbox-panel.inc |
| 17:47.39 | florian_kc | koen: ah okay |
| 17:47.50 | koen | to fix your icon issue |
| 17:47.53 | florian_kc | koen: good for my brain ;-) |
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| 17:49.22 | koen | apart from libgpewidget 0.107 all the packages in #614 are in the release branch |
| 17:50.23 | florian_kc | koen: very nice... |
| 17:51.13 | koen | the one from Ole? |
| 17:51.20 | florian_kc | For some reason it feels faster than the h5550. |
| 17:51.44 | koen | faster video bus I guess |
| 17:51.54 | florian_kc | koen: no we have an old sl-5000 laying around... |
| 17:53.53 | florian_kc | hrm... it just started to ignore my wifi card |
| 17:59.58 | pb_ | doh, my boss just set one of our prototypes on fire |
| 18:00.10 | moray | whoops |
| 18:00.43 | DataBeaver | ehh... |
| 18:00.57 | DataBeaver | Doesn't sound like a good thing to do. |
| 18:01.02 | pb_ | DataBeaver: I think it's actually crashing on the SWP |
| 18:01.10 | DataBeaver | k |
| 18:01.29 | florian_kc | pb_: ! |
| 18:01.37 | pb_ | not that there seems to be anything grossly wrong with it: I think the opcodes are technically illegal, but (afaik) no arm core actually traps that |
| 18:01.57 | DataBeaver | hm. |
| 18:02.01 | pb_ | what cpu is in the sl-c3100? |
| 18:02.10 | koen | pxa270 |
| 18:02.14 | pb_ | moray: did you ever have a chance to look at those keylaunch changes? |
| 18:02.24 | pb_ | right, maybe the pxa270 is more fussy |
| 18:02.33 | pb_ | if I ever get my stupid hx4700 installed I'll try it out |
| 18:02.44 | DataBeaver | pxa270 rev 7 says cpuinfo |
| 18:04.02 | moray | pb_: haven't yet, possibly will have time later this evening though |
| 18:04.30 | moray | (I'm still in the office just now) |
| 18:04.50 | pb_ | okay, cool |
| 18:06.05 | pb_ | DataBeaver: actually, the arm book says there is nothing wrong with that SWP anyway, so it remains a mystery |
| 18:06.23 | DataBeaver | Strange. |
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| 18:53.22 | hrw|work | one question again: will GPE migrate to DejaVu font instead of Vera? DejaVu contain more glyphs so national chars for most of Europe is covered |
| 18:55.21 | florian_kc | i never tried that... but it should work. |
| 18:56.04 | hrw|work | DejaVu is Vera derived |
| 18:56.16 | koen | gpe 2.7 is in the familiar feeds (except for libgpewidget) |
| 18:56.31 | mreimer | yay! |
| 18:56.34 | florian_kc | koen: cool |
| 18:57.54 | koen | I also applied shiyee's patch to fix dpi on h3xxx |
| 19:09.03 | JiniDog | florian_kc, you wanted to discuss my xorg-7 proposal on a mailing-list. which one? |
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| 20:26.19 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 20:26.38 | Philippe | evening all & koen |
| 20:26.50 | mreimer | hi Philippe |
| 20:28.28 | Philippe | hello mreimer |
| 20:28.50 | Philippe | koen, I see in the backlog that libgpewidget 0.107 is not yet in. What is the issue? |
| 20:29.11 | koen | pkgconfig |
| 20:31.12 | koen | mreimer: gpe-bluetooth 0.49 is in the feeds as well, which should fix the issue seen on gpe@ |
| 20:31.19 | Philippe | koen, hmm, sounds nasty |
| 20:31.30 | mreimer | yeah, my build just failed on that :-( |
| 20:32.07 | mreimer | | configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2 glib-2.0 >= 2.2 libgpewidget libgpevtype dbus-glib-1 libglade-2.0 mimedir-1.0 gthread-2.0 bluez libcontactsdb >= 0.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. |
| 20:32.07 | mreimer | | FATAL: oe_runconf failed |
| 20:33.28 | koen | infoprint binary iirc |
| 20:41.14 | koen | eeks! |
| 20:41.19 | koen | dbus 0.50 sneaked into the feeds |
| 20:47.36 | DataBeaver | mreimer: Try building those libraries manually |
| 20:47.59 | mreimer | yeah, that's what I'm trying now |
| 20:48.57 | DataBeaver | I had something similar with some program and had to build libcontactsdb manually |
| 20:51.01 | DataBeaver | BTW, gpe-filemanager is failing to build |
| 20:51.16 | DataBeaver | Or gnome-vfs-dbus actually |
| 20:51.21 | DataBeaver | | gnome-vfs-dbus-utils.c:150: error: `DBUS_TYPE_DICT' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 21:16.11 | mreimer | DataBeaver: yep, building libcontactsdb by hand fixed it |
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| 21:17.32 | moray | pb_: what X stuff are you using to get .pc files for libxau and libxtst? |
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| 21:35.39 | mreimer | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed |
| 21:36.07 | pb__ | mreimer: very good |
| 21:36.27 | mreimer | that's from oz354fam083 with GPE 2.7 |
| 21:37.46 | pb__ | great. which machine? |
| 21:37.51 | moray | pb__: what X stuff are you using to get .pc files for libxau and libxtst? (if you are; -lgl seems to want them) |
| 21:37.56 | mreimer | pb_: h2200 for now :-) |
| 21:38.45 | pb__ | moray: ah, I probably installed those from xlibs cvs at some point |
| 21:38.53 | pb__ | do the debian packages not contain those .pc files? |
| 21:39.15 | pb__ | ah, no, evidently not. drat. |
| 21:39.21 | moray | they don't seem to, unfortunately |
| 21:40.18 | moray | your keylaunch changes look good, I just wanted to compile them after reading the code ;) |
| 21:40.28 | pb__ | heh :-) |
| 21:40.43 | pb__ | mreimer: could you check /usr/sbin/pppd in your image and see if it has been correctly stripped? |
| 21:41.13 | mreimer | pb_: usr/sbin/pppd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
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| 21:41.16 | mreimer | :-( |
| 21:41.22 | pb__ | mreimer: oh dear |
| 21:43.31 | pb__ | I guess I should file a bug report for that. |
| 21:49.39 | pb__ | very good |
| 21:50.01 | hrw | Philippe: not displaying http://www.google.pl/ one maybe? |
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| 21:52.19 | mimecar | hi |
| 21:54.02 | Philippe | hrw, I can't seem to reproduce your bug. It shows up fine here. |
| 21:54.29 | hrw | ok |
| 21:54.30 | Philippe | hrw, are you on OZ? |
| 21:54.37 | hrw | yes |
| 21:55.13 | Philippe | because I have a lot of strange bugs I cannot reproduce with gpe-mini-browser on Zaurus as I have none at my disposal. |
| 21:55.30 | hrw | how can I help? |
| 21:55.33 | Philippe | on pc and Ipaq it works "fine" |
| 21:56.20 | Philippe | hrw, I would need to find out the differences between a regular familiar GPE image and an OZ one. (apart from the softfloats) |
| 21:56.20 | pb__ | Philippe: you could try running openzaurus in a chroot on your ipaq |
| 21:56.41 | Philippe | pb_, is that possible? Any pointers on how to do that? |
| 21:57.07 | pb__ | yeah, it should be pretty straightforward if you have the space available. |
| 21:57.19 | pb__ | you'd need at least 32MB or so of sd (or cf, or nfs mount, or something) |
| 21:58.34 | pb__ | just make a directory, untar the openzaurus rootfs into it, then do "chroot /media/sd/openzaurus /bin/sh" or whereever you put it. |
| 21:58.58 | Philippe | pb_, great idea! I never thought about that. |
| 21:59.50 | Philippe | hrw, this is what I see going to google.pl : http://handhelds.org/~philippe/mini-browser-google.pl.png |
| 22:00.07 | hrw | Philippe: its ok then |
| 22:00.44 | Philippe | hrw, any clue where I can find a recent openzaurus tarball? |
| 22:01.27 | hrw | armv4 or armv5 one? |
| 22:01.51 | Philippe | armv4 one. I have an old 3850 |
| 22:02.18 | hrw | Philippe: then collie one |
| 22:02.37 | Philippe | ok on it |
| 22:04.48 | jamey | hey, I just wanted to say congratulations on the GPE 2.7 release! |
| 22:06.28 | Philippe | jamey, thanks! We hope you like it :-) |
| 22:06.53 | Philippe | grrr, I need to recompile my kernel... usb problems... |
| 22:12.15 | Philippe | yay, another gtk-webcore bug fixed |
| 22:13.30 | pb__ | hi jamey |
| 22:19.14 | pgas | here are my notes http://pierre.ellh.com/ozgpe_notes.txt |
| 22:19.23 | pgas | all in all it works great |
| 22:19.28 | pb__ | very good |
| 22:19.43 | pgas | I've seen the work done since the last time i tested it |
| 22:20.04 | pgas | congrats! |
| 22:21.42 | Philippe | pgas, actually gpe-mini-browser behaves correctly for google.com. Firefox has the annoying habit of redirecting to the nearest google. Really annoying if you need to do an advanced search and you always land on the finnish version (if you do not know finnish of course) |
| 22:22.05 | pgas | gpe-minibrowser does it for me |
| 22:22.25 | Philippe | pgas, how do you mean? |
| 22:22.27 | hrw | Philippe: I got autoredirect from google.com -> google.pl in gpe-mini-browser 0.19 |
| 22:22.28 | pgas | Ie I end up in google.gr coming from google.com |
| 22:22.29 | pb__ | Philippe: oh, is that a firefox specific thing? I always assumed it was google.com doing the redirect. |
| 22:22.38 | pgas | but nothing is showing up |
| 22:22.43 | Philippe | pb_, it does not seem to happen in konqueror etc... |
| 22:22.45 | pgas | I think goole is doing it |
| 22:22.51 | pgas | google |
| 22:23.09 | hrw | Philippe: konq 3.5.0 is also redirected so its google thing |
| 22:23.20 | pgas | in this case i use www.google.com/ncr |
| 22:23.37 | pgas | but then I was still having some trouble |
| 22:23.41 | Philippe | hrw, I just noticed... |
| 22:23.45 | pb__ | Philippe: I just tried with wget, and even there I see the redirect |
| 22:23.56 | pb__ | Connecting to www.google.com|66.249.93.104|:80... connected. |
| 22:23.56 | pb__ | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found |
| 22:23.56 | pb__ | Location: http://www.google.co.uk/ [following] |
| 22:24.18 | Philippe | ~lart google for redirecting me to pages I do not understand |
| 22:24.32 | pb__ | heh, yeah, that can be annoying |
| 22:24.50 | Philippe | damn, gpe-mini-browser now does it too :-( |
| 22:24.52 | pb__ | on the other hand, I guess you can always go to google.be or whatever by hand |
| 22:25.22 | pgas | funny thing is that in links2 I end up in the german google form some reason |
| 22:26.44 | Philippe | pgas, well once I found out all the peculiar stuff that happens on zaurus that night be fixed |
| 22:27.09 | pb__ | pgas: regarding your comment about the "visual effects", yeah, I think matchbox's compositor is busted. It doesn't actually crash X, but the drawing is all screwed up. |
| 22:27.44 | pb__ | I guess we should ask florian to disable that button until matchbox is repaired. |
| 22:28.09 | pgas | well for me it's like locked when i disable it and all black when I enable it (or the other way round) |
| 22:29.08 | moray | Google have this silly redirect based on your IP address |
| 22:29.22 | moray | There should be a link at the foot of the page back to google.com. |
| 22:29.44 | Philippe | moray, I just found out. Thanks! |
| 22:30.22 | moray | Philippe: This caught me out a while back; I didn't notice the link until someone told me.... |
| 22:30.24 | pgas | moray, problem is that nothing is showing up for me after redirection |
| 22:30.33 | pgas | (to google.com.gr) |
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| 22:31.14 | hrw | pgas: and windowtitle show <title> of previous page? |
| 22:31.37 | Philippe | pgas, it works here. Though the chars are screwed up. Anyway I guess it is one of the many OZ problems I should look into. |
| 22:31.54 | pgas | hrw: yes |
| 22:33.55 | pgas | another url before I go to bed http://www.in.gr shows nothing for me |
| 22:34.17 | pgas | good night to you, I'm off to bed |
| 22:34.49 | hrw | cu pgas |
| 22:48.35 | Philippe | night all |
| 22:48.59 | mreimer | night Philippe |
| 22:49.32 | hrw | n8 Philippe |
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| 23:04.30 | florian | re |
| 23:05.37 | pb__ | florian: good evening |
| 23:07.27 | mreimer | hmm, I've upgraded my GPE ipkgs but when I have gpe-mini-browser's "enter url" dialog open, it won't let me tap outside the window, so I can't bring up the keyboard to type anything in. Ideas? |
| 23:08.09 | Philippe | mreimer, that means you suffer from the matchbox bug with modal windows |
| 23:08.35 | mreimer | Philippe: do you know which version fixes it? |
| 23:08.41 | florian | mreimer: Which matchbox version do you have? |
| 23:08.45 | florian | heh |
| 23:08.57 | mreimer | matchbox - 0.9.1-r0 |
| 23:09.03 | mreimer | matchbox-wm - 0.9.5-r0 |
| 23:09.29 | mreimer | which package in particular? |
| 23:12.30 | hrw | cu - have a nice day/night |
| 23:12.36 | mreimer | bye hrw |
| 23:13.02 | florian | hrw: cu |
| 23:13.14 | florian | matchbox-wm i think |
| 23:14.45 | pb__ | mreimer: odd, I have: |
| 23:14.48 | pb__ | Package: matchbox-wm |
| 23:14.48 | pb__ | Version: 0.9.5+cvs-20051212-r1 |
| 23:15.05 | pb__ | in 0.8.3-rc1 |
| 23:15.22 | koen | does '+' sort higher or lower than '-'? |
| 23:15.27 | koen | with ipkg |
| 23:15.36 | mreimer | koen: yes |
| 23:15.50 | mreimer | + = ascii 0x2b, - = ascii 0x2d |
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| 23:18.58 | pb__ | 0.9.5+cvs-20051212-r1 sorts higher than 0.9.5-r0, I think. |
| 23:19.42 | pb__ | "-" is a separator; it doesn't directly participate in sorting. |
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| 23:21.07 | florian | Philippe: good night |
| 23:22.33 | florian | I wonder why i have php on this box... |
| 23:22.39 | pb__ | heh |
| 23:23.46 | pb__ | oh, drat, plugging in my bluetooth card causes a BUG on my laptop |
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| 23:23.57 | pb__ | I guess upgrading the kernel was a dim plan |
| 23:24.50 | florian | oops |
| 23:25.06 | pb__ | kernel BUG at <bad filename>:51179! |
| 23:25.06 | pb__ | invalid operand: 0000 [#1] |
| 23:25.07 | pb__ | tch |
| 23:26.02 | mreimer | ah, gpe-mini-browser input works now, after upgrading to the cvs version of matchbox. thanks! |
| 23:26.11 | pb__ | mreimer: excellent |
| 23:26.33 | mreimer | though slashdot layout is awful |
| 23:28.01 | koen | the content is also awful ;) |
| 23:28.03 | florian | Anyone an idea what happened to Skyhusker? |
| 23:28.10 | mreimer | koen: :-) |
| 23:28.43 | mreimer | gpe-clock in analog mode: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.28143.png |
| 23:29.02 | mreimer | gpe-clock - 0.23-r0 |
| 23:29.24 | pb__ | what version of libgpewidget do you have? |
| 23:29.29 | pb__ | you need 0.107 for gpe-clock to work properly |
| 23:29.51 | mreimer | ah 106 |
| 23:30.00 | pb__ | right, 106 is no good |
| 23:30.02 | florian | uh |
| 23:30.09 | mreimer | so 'bitbake gpe-image' doesn't build the latest versions? |
| 23:30.14 | pb__ | it seems not |
| 23:30.14 | florian | mreimer: who fixed the keyboard icon?! |
| 23:30.25 | mreimer | florian: that's matchbox-keyboard |
| 23:30.28 | mreimer | nice, huh? |
| 23:30.37 | mreimer | it's a bit more compact than the other keyboard |
| 23:30.39 | florian | i think koen fixed this a very short time ago. |
| 23:31.03 | florian | mreimer: ah okay... using the nice tigert icon :-) |
| 23:31.17 | florian | mreimer: is it usable? |
| 23:31.35 | mreimer | yes, except for a couple of characters like ' |
| 23:31.44 | florian | oh |
| 23:31.51 | mreimer | haven't found that bug yet |
| 23:31.56 | florian | I wonder why mallum stopped to work on it. |
| 23:32.33 | mreimer | koen, can we have libgpewidget 0.107 in .oz354fam083? |
| 23:32.41 | koen | mreimer: working on it |
| 23:32.47 | mreimer | thanks :-) |
| 23:35.03 | koen | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/arm-linux/lib/.libs/libfontconfig.so |
| 23:35.04 | koen | hrm |
| 23:35.32 | mreimer | | /opt/oe/build/tmp/work/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21701: PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG: command not found |
| 23:35.32 | mreimer | | /opt/oe/build/tmp/work/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21824: syntax error near unexpected token `cairo,' |
| 23:35.32 | mreimer | | /opt/oe/build/tmp/work/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21824: ` PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(cairo, ENABLE_CAIRO=yes, ENABLE_CAIRO=no)' |
| 23:36.12 | koen | yeah |
| 23:36.15 | koen | pkgconfig is too old |
| 23:36.18 | koen | do_configure() {oe_runconf} |
| 23:38.32 | mreimer | 0.15.0 is too old? |
| 23:38.37 | pb__ | yeah |
| 23:38.52 | koen | a newer pkgconfig breaks other stuff |
| 23:38.56 | mreimer | fun :-) |
| 23:39.23 | mreimer | so pb_ you built 0.107 outside of OE, where pkgconfig is not a problem? |
| 23:40.03 | pb__ | yeah, and I think florian built it by manually patching pkg.m4 in his oe tree. |
| 23:40.14 | pb__ | if you just want a binary to try, you can get it from the updates feed (in the topic) |
| 23:40.34 | mreimer | ok |
| 23:41.03 | koen | .107 is also in the regular familiar feed |
| 23:42.26 | mreimer | are all these feeds documented on the wiki somewhere? |
| 23:43.02 | pb__ | good question. I have no idea, actually. |
| 23:43.37 | koen | the preconfigured feeds should be enough |
| 23:43.55 | koen | unless some people want to have seperate 'updates' feeds :( |
| 23:44.23 | orangey | hey all. is there a reasonable way to connect my GPE calendar to the rest of my world? |
| 23:44.28 | koen | ~lart http://gpe.handhelds.org/feed/0.8.3-rc1+/ for duplicating the familiar update feed |
| 23:45.20 | pb__ | orangey: it can import and export vcf files, and you can connect it to opensync. |
| 23:47.46 | koen | NOTE: package libgpewidget-0.107-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 23:48.09 | florian | :-) |
| 23:48.13 | mreimer | yay koen |
| 23:48.31 | mreimer | what's the difference between libgpewidget-bin and libgpewidget? |
| 23:48.49 | mreimer | besides '-bin' |
| 23:49.04 | koen | helper binaries I assume |
| 23:49.07 | pb__ | the latter contains the library; the former contains supporting binaries |
| 23:49.12 | mreimer | such as? |
| 23:49.16 | pb__ | actually, just one supporting binary at the moment |
| 23:49.19 | mreimer | didn't know there were such binaries |
| 23:49.26 | pb__ | "infoprint" |
| 23:49.33 | mreimer | ah |
| 23:49.52 | mreimer | gpe-clock looks good now. thanks again :-) |
| 23:50.01 | pb__ | very good |
| 23:50.15 | florian | mreimer: Thats what it is used for: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3167.png |
| 23:50.37 | mreimer | yeah, I was just trying to provoke one of those :-) |
| 23:54.04 | mreimer | infoprint "hi" |
| 23:54.04 | mreimer | Segmentation fault |
| 23:54.29 | koen | florian, mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=607060c7bcfeaaadfc8bedfa23c903bdce441614 |
| 23:54.32 | pb__ | yeah, that error message could use some work |
| 23:54.43 | pb__ | for "Segmentation fault", please read "could not open display" |
| 23:54.52 | mreimer | heh |
| 23:55.18 | pb__ | you probably need to either set $DISPLAY, or turn off access control on your xserver or something. |
| 23:57.22 | mreimer | huh, now no complaints, but nothing on the screen. another out-of-date dependency? |
| 23:57.32 | florian | koen: uh |
| 23:57.51 | pb__ | mreimer: gpe-what not running? |
| 23:58.05 | mreimer | applet? |
| 23:58.17 | pb__ | yeah. the one with the picture of the life preserver |
| 23:58.37 | florian | koen: i guess we need to face a nasty topic soon: upgrading pkgconfig... |
| 23:58.37 | pb__ | "interactive help" |
| 23:58.49 | mreimer | there we go |
| 23:59.10 | florian | pb__: That would be another job for a new desktop... |
| 23:59.34 | pb__ | florian: yeah, it would |
| 23:59.41 | mreimer | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.30677.png |
| 23:59.49 | mreimer | looks good |
