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| 01:53.00 | Russ | koen: your gconf-dbus package is missing its library |
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| 03:22.48 | orangey | could somebody check out http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ ? |
| 03:22.51 | orangey | maybe it's just my network.. |
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| 05:39.21 | Russ | his geed page has been down |
| 05:39.24 | Russ | er feed |
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| 08:40.49 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 08:45.25 | XorA | morning |
| 08:45.43 | johnX | mornin' |
| 08:46.32 | florian_kc | hi XorA, hi johnX |
| 08:47.07 | johnX | hello |
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| 10:28.21 | XorA | florian_kc: I have two patches for packages you maintain, gpe-bluetooth_0.49 to add libcontactsdb to DEPENDS, and libxsettings_0.16 to remove a bogus -I$(includedir) from Makefile.am that prevents compiling on my x86_64 |
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| 10:57.46 | florian_kc | re |
| 10:58.07 | florian_kc | XorA: ah right, please check that in... |
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| 11:20.25 | florian_kc | hrm... my oe push is sitting there for several minutes now... |
| 11:24.25 | _law_ | hmm.. any ideas where i can change font size for menu? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11262.png |
| 11:32.05 | florian_kc | _law_: oh dear... |
| 11:33.23 | _law_ | florian_kc, any ideas where i can change this settings? |
| 11:33.37 | florian_kc | _law_: Sadly thats defined by the matchbox theme. But this looks like your dpi setting is wrong... or worse, it might be correct but you need to lie. |
| 11:33.55 | florian_kc | _law_: what does xdpyinfo say? |
| 11:34.02 | _law_ | but gpe-mini-browser looks fine http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12766.png |
| 11:35.28 | florian_kc | _law_: that might be caused by the fact that the default font settings are adjusted... |
| 11:35.33 | florian_kc | koen: ping |
| 11:35.53 | florian_kc | We shouldn't have tried to fix this in oe. |
| 11:36.19 | _law_ | florian_kc, http://pastebin.com/511298 |
| 11:37.25 | florian_kc | _law_: X and ssh tricked you: # |
| 11:37.25 | florian_kc | name of display: localhost:10.0 |
| 11:37.25 | florian_kc | # |
| 11:38.22 | florian_kc | _law_: line 58 is the interesting one, but on display :0 |
| 11:38.53 | _law_ | florian_kc, ok mom |
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| 11:46.05 | _law_ | florian_kc, http://pastebin.com/511306 |
| 11:50.36 | florian_kc | _law_: oh okay, install xserver-common from the update feed mentioned in the topic... |
| 11:52.21 | _law_ | florian_kc, i have got an zaurus. could this be any problem? |
| 11:54.02 | florian_kc | _law_: I don't think so, xserver-common doesn't include binaries. But be careful not to install other stuff from there, |
| 11:54.23 | _law_ | florian_kc, ok thanks |
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| 11:59.22 | pb_ | morning |
| 12:00.06 | florian_kc | pb_: good morning |
| 12:04.22 | pb_ | florian_kc: hello! |
| 12:06.55 | florian_kc | no i'm not going to fix gpsdrive build stuff :-/ |
| 12:10.36 | _law_ | florian_kc, nice, current cvs version? |
| 12:15.08 | florian_kc | _law_: i tried... but something is really broken. i don't have time to fix this today, but i'll tell Joerg what to do... |
| 12:21.59 | XorA | hmm, segfault in gpe-login not cool :-( |
| 12:26.37 | florian_kc | eeks |
| 12:26.39 | florian_kc | indeed |
| 12:27.15 | XorA | florian_kc: is ok, I think its caused by moving from gtk2.6->2.8 |
| 12:27.31 | XorA | florian_kc: apps which I havent ipkg install -force-reinstall seem to segfault |
| 12:28.07 | florian_kc | XorA: oops... or you have some old gtk or gdk modules installed. |
| 12:28.46 | XorA | florian_kc: just an ipkg install -force-reinstall seems to do the trick on apps which are faulting |
| 12:29.05 | florian_kc | XorA: ok |
| 12:29.23 | XorA | florian_kc: I really should have flashed a new image, but Im lazy |
| 12:31.16 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:31.33 | _law_ | XorA, i had same problems, i reflashed yesterday :-) |
| 12:32.06 | XorA | florian_kc: without nutters like me, trying daft things we wouldnt know the daft things users do :-) |
| 12:32.53 | florian_kc | heh |
| 12:37.58 | pb_ | how odd |
| 12:38.06 | pb_ | it's hard to imagine why reinstalling the apps would make a difference |
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| 12:40.42 | XorA | pb_: I guess some library isnt 100% ABI compatible |
| 12:41.11 | pb_ | possibly, but: |
| 12:41.18 | pb_ | - that would be a grievous bug in gtk 2.8; and |
| 12:41.30 | pb_ | - the only thing that would make a difference in that case would be recompiling, not just reinstalling the same binaries |
| 12:41.45 | pb_ | morning dc__ |
| 12:41.52 | XorA | pb_: its not the same binaries, I build a fresh image from OE and ipkg upgraded to it |
| 12:42.08 | pb_ | oh, right, I see |
| 12:42.20 | pb_ | in that case, yeah, it does sound like some kind of abi breakage |
| 12:42.39 | pb_ | that's definitely a bad bug |
| 12:42.41 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
| 12:42.50 | dc__ | hey guys |
| 12:43.04 | florian_kc | ah openwan is fixed in oe... |
| 12:43.15 | florian_kc | and my simpad too.... hrm |
| 12:43.57 | pb_ | florian_kc: very good |
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| 12:53.27 | DataBeaver | Stupid graphical package manager... It's been loading itself for 5 minutes already. |
| 12:54.13 | DataBeaver | Reading the package list, to be more specific. |
| 12:54.32 | DataBeaver | In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to do anything useful with it. |
| 12:56.27 | florian_kc | DataBeaver: thats a long time, is this with familiar rc1 and a jffs2 filesystem? |
| 12:57.13 | DataBeaver | Custom-built OpenZaurus (.dev) and ext2 |
| 12:57.40 | florian_kc | huh... ext2? on which device? |
| 12:57.48 | DataBeaver | Zaurus SL-C3100 |
| 12:58.01 | DataBeaver | It has a built-in 4GB micrdrive |
| 12:58.07 | florian_kc | ah cool |
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| 15:34.22 | t|zz | isn't the suspend-option working at the time in gpe image for h1930 frpm http://anymore.nl/ipaq/files/graphical_images/ ? does anybody know? |
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| 15:43.58 | ArjanS | t|zz: it doesn't work |
| 15:44.20 | ArjanS | suspend support in the kernel is not yet ready |
| 15:45.04 | t|zz | ArjanS: thanks, that's just what i wanted to know |
| 15:46.02 | ArjanS | you can find more information on the wiki |
| 15:46.21 | t|zz | i watched out the wiki, thanks |
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| 17:20.33 | Philippe | evening all |
| 17:20.41 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 17:21.05 | Philippe | hello florian_kc |
| 17:21.20 | koen | hey Philippe & florian_kc |
| 17:21.36 | koen | florian_kc: you should be able to push to all 4 monotone server right now |
| 17:21.39 | florian_kc | hey koen |
| 17:21.48 | florian_kc | koen: cool! |
| 17:21.51 | florian_kc | eh |
| 17:21.54 | florian_kc | four? |
| 17:22.07 | Philippe | idd, 4? |
| 17:22.15 | florian_kc | koen: ewi, dominion, vanille.de and? |
| 17:22.18 | koen | ewi546, dominion, anille and monotone.nslu2-linux.org |
| 17:22.22 | koen | vanille* |
| 17:24.27 | florian_kc | oh right, nslu2 |
| 17:26.10 | koen | time to move downstairs to the restaurant :) |
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| 18:45.30 | hrw | hi from c760 running oz 3.5.4/gpe |
| 18:45.52 | florian_kc | hi hrw |
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| 18:46.37 | hrw | florian_kc: bad news - gpe-conf ignore theme changing on my c760 |
| 18:46.45 | florian_kc | hrw: ! |
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| 18:47.02 | hrw | florian_kc: on collie it was changed on the fly.. here nothing happens |
| 18:47.14 | florian_kc | hrw: is gpe-confd running? |
| 18:47.35 | hrw | will look - its 1st boot |
| 18:48.08 | hrw | florian_kc: no. |
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| 18:48.51 | florian_kc | hrw: that would be a problem... |
| 18:48.55 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 18:48.57 | hrw | florian_kc: yep |
| 18:49.07 | pH5 | hi everyone |
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| 18:49.23 | hrw | florian_kc: I also had to remove keylaunch to get x11 not restarting |
| 18:51.12 | t|zz | ArjanS: is it possible to use usb as eth on h1930/40? |
| 18:51.32 | florian_kc | hrw: oh dear, who feels responsible for gpe in oz? |
| 18:52.18 | hrw | florian_kc: dont know - we usually use the same as familiar use |
| 18:53.39 | florian_kc | hrw: i suppose that keylaunch issue is matchbox which dies because keylaunch grabs a key it tries to grab afterwards. |
| 18:54.28 | hrw | probably. it was reported in April iirc anyway |
| 18:54.41 | hrw | but maybe not in bugtracker |
| 18:54.44 | hrw | brb |
| 18:54.54 | XorA|gone | The problem is older than the bugtracker :-( |
| 18:55.19 | florian_kc | Indeed... but i wonder why this doesn't happen in Familiar. |
| 18:55.51 | florian_kc | Works on Simapd, h3600, h3900, NBP and 770 at least. |
| 18:55.58 | XorA|gone | florian_kc: it only happens sometimes on Z's as well |
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| 18:56.47 | florian_kc | I think it meight be enough to remove the matchbox key config file. |
| 19:02.15 | hrw | re |
| 19:02.28 | florian_kc | hrw: wb |
| 19:03.13 | hrw | florian_kc: when will gpe allow to setup timezone by city instead of cet/eet/etc? |
| 19:04.21 | hrw | now I have -7h time |
| 19:05.04 | hrw | gpe-bluetooth is uselesss on nonserial cf cards like dtl1_cs one |
| 19:05.49 | XorA|gone | hrw: why? |
| 19:06.24 | hrw | XorA|gone: hciattach failed is all i got after "turn radio on" |
| 19:07.06 | XorA|gone | hrw: oh bugger I forgot to bug tracker that, it need to run /etc/bluetooth/hciattach as root, it runs it as user |
| 19:07.11 | hrw | but maybe card was not initialized - will look into it later (now wifi is in slot) |
| 19:07.15 | XorA|gone | hrw: well in some cases anyway |
| 19:07.35 | hrw | XorA|gone: there is a bug on it iirc |
| 19:07.55 | XorA|gone | hrw: thats ok then, I have to setserial my card, so it needs to be root |
| 19:08.03 | XorA|gone | hrw: though maybe that is udev's job |
| 19:08.09 | hrw | matchbox font is little... |
| 19:08.18 | XorA|gone | hrw: once card is initialised gpe-bluetooth works though |
| 19:08.35 | hrw | ok |
| 19:08.58 | XorA|gone | hmmm, my Z has keylaunch running |
| 19:09.15 | ArjanS | t|zz: yeah, but for that you have to start linux on the ipaq with the cable plugged in, and then unplug and replug the cable after booting |
| 19:09.25 | hrw | gpe games are qvga sized... minesweaper has too tiny fields |
| 19:10.31 | hrw | %v |
| 19:10.57 | hrw | ops |
| 19:11.53 | hrw | hmm.. something more to try? |
| 19:12.32 | hrw | ill try reboot to get gpe-confd |
| 19:12.36 | hrw | brb |
| 19:12.42 | florian_kc | hrw: Its almost finished... |
| 19:12.50 | pH5 | florian_kc: i just saw your gpe-mininet/tango icon upload. are there any plans to follow the icon naming spec in gpe? |
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| 19:13.15 | florian_kc | hrw: Mika was working on a fix fomr one remaining issue. |
| 19:13.59 | florian_kc | That gpe-bluetooth issue sounds like an ancient version... |
| 19:14.41 | florian_kc | pH5: Thats something we should discuss on the mailinglist, could be useful... |
| 19:14.59 | pH5 | florian_kc: agreed |
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| 19:22.33 | hrw | re |
| 19:22.38 | florian_kc | hrw: wb |
| 19:23.07 | hrw | removed old .g* dirs - now gpeconfd works |
| 19:23.37 | hrw | gpe-clock looks a bit shiity - look at my last scap |
| 19:23.39 | XorA|gone | florian_kc: problem with gpe-bluetooth could be, Ive just noticed I accidently lost my /etc/bluetooth/hciattach sometime over last week or so so Ive been running wrong stuff anyway |
| 19:23.42 | florian_kc | Interesting... imho we haven't touched this for years. |
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| 19:24.47 | hrw | hmm.. 28% offf batttery - ill go off soon |
| 19:24.50 | florian_kc | XorA|gone: hmm.. maybe just reinstall it to make sure you have the original bits and if the trouble persists a reason o file a bug. |
| 19:26.27 | XorA|gone | florian_kc: it was a reinstall that lost my edited one |
| 19:26.38 | XorA|gone | florian_kc: I shall test tomorrow anyway |
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| 19:28.08 | hrw | basicallly gpe is working. but i'll stay with opie rather. maybe try xfce |
| 19:28.24 | florian_kc | hrw: ! |
| 19:29.29 | hrw | florian_kc: sorry but i have fscked eyes and dont want to go into -8 just because gpe use very small fonts in panel/titlebar |
| 19:29.55 | hrw | i know that this is matchbox fault but for user it is gpe |
| 19:30.31 | hrw | gpe-clock is overwritten by surrounding applets |
| 19:31.35 | hrw | some applets have lores icons, some has hires small ones |
| 19:32.34 | hrw | no option to setup matchbox to rotate panel with screen (it is in its prefs iirc) |
| 19:32.42 | hrw | brb |
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| 19:38.42 | florian_kc | hrw: Thase sizes are fixed now, but i suppose there is no update feed for OZ, right? |
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| 19:40.50 | hrw | where they are fixed? |
| 19:41.21 | florian_kc | hrw: by a new version of xserver-common which lies about the screen resolution. |
| 19:41.31 | hrw | florian_kc: oz 3.5.4 is not yet released - add update to .oz354fam083 branch |
| 19:42.49 | hrw | florian_kc: how can i check it on my device? change to files? |
| 19:44.12 | florian_kc | hrw: /etc/X11/Xserver, or just run xdpyinfo - if Xserver is broken it will tell you some resolution >> 100 dpi |
| 19:50.02 | hrw | ok |
| 19:51.04 | hrw | 100x100dpi returned |
| 19:52.19 | florian_kc | hmm... that should be okay, i wonder why the fonts are that strange then... |
| 19:53.07 | hrw | scap posted |
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| 19:56.41 | hrw | florian_kc: is there a way to configure into which rotation rotateapplet has rotate to? |
| 19:59.49 | florian_kc | hrw: hmm iirc this is hardcoded in some script. |
| 20:00.10 | hrw | 24733 is a scap with fscked gpe-clock which is unreadable after few rotations |
| 20:00.31 | hrw | have to go now. |
| 20:00.45 | hrw | cu tomorrow guys |
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| 20:23.18 | DataBeaver | Are there any other terminals for gpe than rxvt? |
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| 21:46.04 | florian | re |
| 21:52.08 | Philippe | night all |
| 21:53.18 | florian | Philippe: good night |
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