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| 00:08.28 | jcole | what app do i use for email syncing? |
| 00:09.53 | jcole | can i sync outlook with gpe? |
| 00:10.13 | jcole | i see a contacts app |
| 00:10.18 | jcole | where's the email app |
| 00:10.53 | jcole | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700HowtoInstallLinux |
| 00:11.08 | jcole | ^^^ minipredict doesn't exist in the repository |
| 00:12.17 | jcole | i don't see it here either ---> http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/feed/ |
| 00:12.41 | jcole | are there certain repos that i'm supposed to add? a newbie guide to gpe somewhre? |
| 00:17.54 | jcole | i like gtk and gnome, so i've been persistent and trying hard to use gpe on my pda... why is gpe so hard to configure and install compared to opie? why is gpe such a mess compared to opie? why doesn't familiar have all the gtk apps like xchat, firefox, etc.? does the familiar crowd have a precedence of qt/opie over gtk/gpe? if so, where can one find maintained repos for gpe? |
| 00:18.20 | jcole | and gtk |
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| 00:20.13 | jcole | i added http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/XQt/feed/ as an external repo since it has alot of gtk apps but ipkg doesn't seem to want to install them on my pda |
| 00:20.30 | jcole | i found that repo using google |
| 00:20.50 | jcole | so i'm not sure if i'm supposed to add it |
| 00:22.06 | jcole | i'm going to re-install opie since it seems to be more useful in it's current state on familiar than gpe |
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| 01:10.22 | vtowel_ | jcole: i also have an hx4700 and i'm running GPE. I've been using this repo, and it used to be mentioned in in that install guide but i guess someone removed it: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ |
| 01:10.48 | vtowel_ | some of the packages in there aren't stable, but a lot of them seem fine |
| 01:12.20 | vtowel_ | maybe they removed it from the wiki because it was considered too unstable, but it's really useful |
| 01:14.56 | bedboi | vtowel_: that is koen's feed |
| 01:18.12 | vtowel_ | bedboi: okay.. am i allowed to use it? |
| 01:18.37 | bedboi | yep i think |
| 01:18.39 | bedboi | :)P |
| 01:19.04 | bedboi | i think koen removed it from the wiki because of bandwidth issues |
| 01:19.18 | vtowel_ | understandable |
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| 01:43.32 | ade|desk | bedboi: i doubt the bandwidth issues |
| 01:43.45 | ade|desk | i would lik |
| 01:45.00 | ade|desk | i would think its more likely that people are trying to use the wrong float, the feed doesn't indicate which float it is |
| 01:45.52 | ade|desk | familiar and oz use different floats, long live angstrom |
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| 04:01.06 | jcole | should put the bugs in the topic --> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700HowtoInstallLinux |
| 04:02.16 | jcole_awy | NOTE: Familiar v0.8.3 repositories for GTK/GPE/X apps are broken and are missing many packages (is this being fixed?), OPIE is recommended at this time. |
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| 10:25.51 | moray | morning |
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| 12:55.41 | pb_ | moray: good morning |
| 12:57.06 | moray | just packaging libcontactsdb so I can package a new gpe-contacts etc. |
| 12:57.15 | pb_ | excellent |
| 12:57.37 | pb_ | I think I am gaining the upper hand now |
| 12:57.48 | moray | ah |
| 12:58.15 | moray | hm, I can't believe I *still* have trouble getting the correct name for .orig files |
| 12:58.26 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:58.28 | pb_ | yeah, I have that too |
| 12:58.43 | pb_ | I kind of wish debian could just use whatever name the upstream tarfile has |
| 12:58.48 | moray | indeed |
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| 13:06.39 | moray | hm, libcontactsdb seems overenthusiastic in its dependencies |
| 13:07.00 | moray | (I guess this is a pkg-config issue with something below it) |
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| 13:21.41 | pb_ | dc__: g'day |
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| 13:34.42 | moray | hm, autotools(+pkg-config) are still beating me |
| 13:35.43 | dc__ | yo |
| 13:35.47 | dc__ | muwa |
| 13:35.59 | dc__ | what an improvment over 25k |
| 13:36.20 | dc__ | now I need to find some sources for hd movies :/ |
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| 13:38.19 | molivier | hi all |
| 13:38.44 | molivier | someone here got a 770 ? |
| 13:41.01 | pb_ | yeah, though I never use it |
| 13:41.05 | pb_ | florian would be your resource for 770 stuff |
| 13:41.09 | pb_ | dc__: heh |
| 13:41.14 | CoreDump|work | mmhh 770, yummie. I wish heh |
| 13:41.14 | pb_ | moray: oh dear |
| 13:42.03 | bedboi | i'm searching a good virtual keyboard for big screen |
| 13:42.44 | moray | pb_: I'm fiddling trying to avoid everything ending up with Depends on 1000 libraries including freetype |
| 13:42.44 | bedboi | it seems that gok works just under gnome |
| 13:42.56 | pb_ | bedboi: yeah, gok would be the obvious option |
| 13:43.01 | moray | pb_: apparently the Requires.private .pc field is the way forward |
| 13:43.09 | pb_ | oh, right, cute |
| 13:43.12 | pb_ | I never knew about that field |
| 13:43.27 | pb_ | brb |
| 13:43.44 | moray | pb_: it's newish |
| 13:44.26 | molivier | pb_, did you see if its fast enough ? |
| 13:45.00 | moray | mwahaha |
| 13:45.08 | moray | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5), libgpepimc0, libsqlite0 (>= 2.8.16) |
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| 13:53.42 | pb_ | molivier: fast enough for what? |
| 13:53.44 | pb_ | moray: excellent! |
| 14:23.14 | moray | (that was for libcontactsdb, now post-lunch will look at gpepimc again) |
| 14:24.56 | moray | hm, I think pimc having random junk in its Depends is gdk-2.0's fault |
| 14:25.41 | moray | anyway, may as well get some improvement even if there's more to gain |
| 14:27.01 | pb_ | right |
| 14:35.34 | moray | hm, any ideas what happened regarding libmimedir releases/not breaking API? |
| 14:36.11 | moray | (looks like gpe-contacts needs a newer libmimedir) |
| 14:36.57 | pb_ | I think the new gpe-contacts needs some functionality that wasn't included in older libmimedirs. |
| 14:37.10 | pb_ | afaik, the newer libmimedir is still backwards compatible with older programs. |
| 14:37.39 | moray | right, we still seem to lack an actual libmimedir release though |
| 14:37.46 | moray | I think florian had said there would be one a while back |
| 14:38.16 | pb_ | oh, right |
| 14:38.35 | pb_ | I don't know what's going on with that. florian was in contact with the libmimedir guy, though, so I guess his information is the best. |
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| 14:39.14 | koen | moray: http://www.rittau.org/mimedir/ |
| 14:39.34 | koen | mister ritttau is the mimedir maintainer |
| 14:39.41 | hrhr | hi all |
| 14:39.50 | pb_ | doh, I need to remember to stop typing "sh ./gsmunge.py" |
| 14:40.00 | pb_ | you get all kinds of weird effects when feeding python to the shell, it turns out. |
| 14:40.13 | moray | koen: aha, I still had an old location |
| 14:41.29 | hrhr | what browser i can use in gpe...i need disable pictures, save pages and select text at the page |
| 14:43.41 | koen | moray: it could be gpe needs a more recent version, but as pb_ said, that is a question for florian |
| 14:43.44 | hrhr | ..... |
| 14:44.21 | moray | koen: well, I can try with 0.3.1 from there anyway; updating to something later isn't difficult if I find out what *is* needed... |
| 14:45.16 | hrhr | koen:: how about firefox? |
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| 15:05.17 | pb_ | phew, phones seem all to be workig |
| 15:32.57 | pb__ | ibot, botmail for florian: updates feed packages file is updated now, sorry about that. Ipkg-make-index doesn't notice changes to the dependencies if the package version hasn't changed. |
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| 16:27.26 | moray | pb__: is the gpe-contacts well-known-tags file meant to be user document? |
| 16:27.57 | pb__ | I guess so |
| 16:29.36 | moray | ok, just asking before I forced it back into /usr/share/doc |
| 16:30.58 | pb__ | righto |
| 16:32.09 | pb__ | dc__: are you planning to go to FOSDEM this year? |
| 16:32.53 | dc__ | pb__: oh...hadn't thought |
| 16:32.55 | dc__ | what date is it? |
| 16:33.06 | pb__ | good question |
| 16:33.08 | pb__ | some time in february |
| 16:33.20 | dc__ | I don't think I can |
| 16:33.27 | dc__ | got coursework due in march |
| 16:33.39 | dc__ | and I have to get A+B this year :] |
| 16:33.47 | dc__ | I would really like to got though |
| 16:33.53 | pb__ | 25/26 feb, it seems |
| 16:34.04 | pb__ | ah right, that's too bad |
| 16:34.53 | moray | I should book some means of travel, I guess |
| 16:35.25 | pb__ | good plan. walking to brussels not recommended. |
| 16:37.35 | pb__ | not sure whether I will go to fosdem or not this year. I might not bother if the number of gpe people there will be small. |
| 16:38.18 | moray | I hadn't definitely decided, but was planning to |
| 16:38.21 | pb__ | iirc, florian is prevented from attending by child-related issues. I wonder whether the rest of kernel concepts are going. |
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| 16:38.27 | moray | know if o-hand are turning up? |
| 16:38.47 | pb__ | no idea, actually. mallum doesn't seem to hang out in here anymore. |
| 16:42.40 | pb__ | maybe we should have another GPE hackers' meeting sometime. I've been feeling more enthused about working on this stuff again, having hardly touched it for most of the past year. |
| 16:51.00 | moray | certainly would be good to get things going again |
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| 17:12.11 | pH5 | good evening |
| 17:12.15 | andrewy | I made an ipk out of the qte opera that was on my old sharp rom, but when I install that to GPE/oz3.5.3 (zaurus 5500), it gives an error saying that libqte is missing when I try to run it. is there a way to install libqte so that I can run qte programs? |
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| 17:18.52 | pb__ | hi ph5 |
| 17:19.06 | pb__ | andrewy: "ipkg install libqte"? |
| 17:19.19 | pb__ | that'd be a question for #opie really. |
| 17:20.19 | andrewy | I did an "ipkg search '*qte*'" and that didnt show up |
| 17:20.23 | andrewy | i'll try it though, thanks |
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| 17:59.26 | mimecar | hi |
| 17:59.57 | pH5 | hi mimecar |
| 18:00.16 | mimecar | hey pH5 |
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| 18:35.06 | moray | pb__: oh, someone posted a correction to some German translation stuff to the Debian BTS a while ago |
| 18:35.25 | pb__ | oh, right. for which packages? |
| 18:35.33 | moray | pb__: I don't remember how our po file stuff is set up though – if I put them in CVS, does that get used, or do I need to send it somewhere magic? |
| 18:35.43 | pb__ | You need to send it to the German translation team. |
| 18:35.57 | moray | gpe-taskmanager is the clearest case I can spot |
| 18:36.03 | pb__ | I think the address is either at the top of the file, or de@li.org. |
| 18:36.11 | moray | ok |
| 18:37.30 | moray | the top of the file claims your copyright (maybe for the English?) then has Colin's name and email address |
| 18:37.56 | moray | oh, I see there are header-type things further down again |
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| 19:06.50 | moray | hm, de@li.org bounces |
| 19:06.58 | pb__ | drat |
| 19:07.34 | pb__ | ah, translation-team-de@lists.sourceforge.net |
| 19:07.47 | pb__ | crazy germans |
| 19:08.46 | moray | meanwhile the address for the GNOME German translation team (in the mimedir de.po file) sent me back a message in German |
| 19:08.55 | pb__ | heh |
| 19:08.58 | moray | with a 'confirm' URL in the middle |
| 19:09.15 | moray | however, using a web translation tool suggests that clicking the confirmation URL would delete the message |
| 19:10.02 | pb__ | ingenious |
| 19:11.59 | moray | hm, I'd pass some other stuff on to the openedhand BTS, but it seems lacking in products to choose from (and has no general category) |
| 19:12.09 | moray | guess I'll just spam mallum with bug reports instead |
| 19:15.26 | pb__ | sounds like the best option |
| 19:32.43 | Cwiiis | moray, what's this about OH BTS? |
| 19:33.31 | moray | Cwiiis: ah, I could just do with some more products in it |
| 19:33.34 | moray | e.g. matchbox-panel |
| 19:34.16 | Cwiiis | moray: ah, that's odd - I'll poke ross about it on Monday |
| 19:34.33 | moray | other matchbox stuff too obviously |
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| 19:34.59 | moray | also maybe xrestop, if mallum would prefer stuff in bugzilla for that rather than emails? |
| 19:39.26 | andrewy | any idea why the sound wont work with GPE on my 5500 with oz 3.5.3? |
| 19:39.46 | Cwiiis | volume set to zero? |
| 19:40.18 | andrewy | no, its turned on |
| 19:41.10 | Cwiiis | what are you using to play sound? And do the esound beeps work? |
| 19:41.29 | andrewy | no, no sounds work |
| 19:41.38 | andrewy | im using the test thing in the volume applet |
| 19:42.01 | andrewy | oh, apparently the "speaker" is just a buzzer with a few different sounds |
| 19:42.29 | moray | Cwiiis: shall I send ross a message about it? |
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| 20:12.20 | Philippe | hello guys |
| 20:14.08 | Cwiiis | moray: Done already |
| 20:15.33 | moray | thanks |
| 20:30.42 | koen|tv | hey Philippe |
| 20:34.03 | koen|tv | Philippe: did you get my message about the missing webcore fixes? |
| 20:45.01 | Philippe | koen|tv, no sorry |
| 20:45.17 | Philippe | so what happened, the files have gone missing? |
| 20:45.58 | Philippe | WTF? monotone update |
| 20:45.58 | Philippe | monotone: note: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' has multiple heads |
| 20:45.58 | Philippe | monotone: note: perhaps consider 'monotone merge' |
| 20:45.59 | Philippe | monotone: already up to date at ad177a94b5a679527ef244941ff2179afd61c899 |
| 20:56.31 | Philippe | koen|tv, anyway. Which file(s) are missing? |
| 20:57.02 | Philippe | viewmtn seems to be down and I have no clue what is missing as they are in my tree. |
| 21:12.46 | koen|tv | Philippe: it seems your commit didn't come thru |
| 21:13.04 | koen|tv | Philippe: try http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:14.02 | Philippe | koen|tv, ewi fails too... |
| 21:14.19 | koen|tv | it works over here.... |
| 21:14.42 | Philippe | koen|tv, Unable to get list of heads for org.openembedded.dev: error: failure extracting schema from sqlite_master |
| 21:15.12 | Philippe | ok, now it works... |
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| 22:09.05 | mimecar | hi |
| 22:22.06 | mimecar | good night koen|sleep |
| 22:29.27 | pH5 | good night |
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