| 00:00.06 | pb_ | oh, crumbs, I see |
| 00:01.01 | florian | pb_: We had a long discussion on maemo devel mailinglist about how to handle scheduled events. |
| 00:01.09 | pb_ | ah right |
| 00:01.44 | florian | Some guy intended to create crontab entries from ui applications... |
| 00:02.04 | pb_ | ugh, that's pretty nasty |
| 00:03.37 | florian | Yeah... we should invade Maemo a little bit with libschedule and libcontactsdb :-) |
| 00:03.47 | pb_ | :-) |
| 00:04.40 | florian | iirc the contacts storage code of osso-email is much longer than gpe-contacts |
| 00:04.47 | florian | pb_: good night |
| 00:04.48 | pb_ | gotta get up early tomorrow to take my car to be repaired (again!) |
| 00:04.53 | florian | ! |
| 00:05.33 | pb_ | both the rear brake calipers need replacing, and apparently there wasn't time to do that last week. |
| 00:05.39 | florian | pb_: i did last week... and found out they didn't care about if before noon ::-/ |
| 00:05.41 | pigeon | g'day |
| 00:05.48 | florian | hi pigeon |
| 00:05.49 | pb_ | florian: doh! |
| 00:06.00 | pb_ | pigeon: g'day |
| 00:06.07 | pb_ | pigeon: congratulations! |
| 00:06.14 | florian | pigeon: weee! congratulations! |
| 00:06.45 | pigeon | in taiwan now for another wedding dinner |
| 00:08.20 | pigeon | hehe |
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| 00:43.07 | pigeon | is xstroke still being managed? |
| 00:44.10 | florian | hmm... no idea |
| 00:46.03 | pigeon | xstroke.org expired. |
| 00:46.43 | florian | :-( |
| 00:47.25 | pigeon | archive.org's works |
| 00:47.32 | pigeon | but still... |
| 00:47.57 | pigeon | and it seems i can never do a '[' anymore, but i can do a ']' :\ |
| 00:48.59 | florian | :-( |
| 00:58.41 | florian | good night |
| 00:58.50 | florian | pigeon: have a good time! |
| 00:58.59 | pigeon | thanks! |
| 00:59.11 | pigeon | you too! |
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| 02:34.32 | jcole | does this feed work with familiar? http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/XQt/feed/ |
| 02:34.38 | jcole | it's got stuff i want |
| 02:34.55 | jcole | firefox ffplay |
| 02:34.59 | jcole | etc. |
| 02:37.45 | jcole | since familiar is not maintained very well i'm going to try that |
| 02:39.46 | jcole | i've got an hx4700, will those work? |
| 02:50.44 | pigeon | does anyone know why there's no protocol visible in the gaim account window even i have those libgaim-protocol-msn gaim-protocol-msn installed? |
| 02:51.59 | pigeon | strace shows it has opened libmsn.so as well |
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| 05:50.37 | shiyee | pigeon: there is no libgaim-protocol-msn package used... the packages you need are gaim and gaim-protocol-msn with a version of 2.0.0-cvs-mco1-20050904 |
| 06:13.28 | pigeon | hmm |
| 06:14.09 | pigeon | i found both gaim-protocol-* and libgaim-protocol-* in unstable |
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| 06:19.49 | pigeon | anyway, i'll try that again |
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| 06:40.32 | pigeon | hmm, now when i try to login msn, it says i need ssl support |
| 06:44.05 | shiyee | pigeon: please make sure you're using the correct version - 2.0.0-cvs-mco1-20050904 |
| 06:44.51 | pigeon | ok, i'll double check. |
| 06:44.54 | pigeon | thanks again |
| 06:51.44 | pigeon | Package gaim (2.0.0-cvs-mco1-20050904-r1) installed in sd is up to date. |
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| 08:39.48 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:56.37 | _law_ | morning florian_kc |
| 08:59.05 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
| 09:05.09 | XorA | morning |
| 09:06.15 | pigeon | this is so weird |
| 09:06.43 | pigeon | gaim-protocol-msn (2.0.0-cvs-mco1-20050904-r1) has only data (png) in it |
| 09:07.43 | florian_kc | huh |
| 09:07.53 | florian_kc | hi XorA |
| 09:08.18 | florian_kc | pigeon: maybe the module is disabled because of some configure option |
| 09:08.57 | pigeon | it was "fun", when i got the msn plugin installed, i missed the ssl, then i fixed the ssl, and then the msn is gone now. |
| 09:09.41 | pigeon | i'm retrying again. |
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| 09:31.56 | pigeon | msn plugin so exists in libgaim-protocol-msn, but it's only in unstable, not the snapshot feeds. |
| 09:33.36 | florian_kc | Sounds like a bug in the bb... |
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| 09:41.53 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for pb_ Whats the magic to update the Packages file of the update feed? It still contains the broken dependencies... |
| 09:43.58 | pigeon | hmm :( |
| 09:45.46 | johnX | do you mean the bitbake command that updates the Packages in tmp/deploy/ipk/? |
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| 09:52.23 | florian_kc | johnX: nope... in the gpe update feed. iirc it should do that automatically, but for some reason it doesn't work. |
| 09:52.28 | florian_kc | morning bedboi |
| 09:53.04 | johnX | florian_kc: ah |
| 10:00.48 | XorA | gpe-mini-browser wants to include gpe/gpedialog.h but that file isnt staged by any of its DEPENDS |
| 10:04.22 | florian_kc | XorA: oh right - let me fix this |
| 10:04.38 | bedboi | florian_kc: morn |
| 10:04.54 | XorA | super florian_kc to the rescue :-) |
| 10:07.47 | florian_kc | XorA: I see... you need libgpewidget 0.107 |
| 10:08.13 | florian_kc | XorA: You should be able to pull from ewi... |
| 10:19.04 | XorA | florian_kc: cheers |
| 10:24.32 | XorA | have there been some recent changes in libX11 Ive missed, Im getting the error, /home/UKB01/graeme.gregory/zaurus/build-gcc/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libSM.so.6 |
| 10:24.35 | XorA | : undefined reference to `IceGetPeerName' |
| 10:29.35 | florian_kc | hmm... not that i'm aware of |
| 10:34.03 | XorA | ahah, libsm_cvs managed to become default overnight |
| 10:35.17 | florian_kc | oops |
| 10:36.21 | XorA | florian_kc: I gues its because it became 6.0.3+cvs{BLAH} |
| 10:36.31 | XorA | florian_kc: where it was 0.0+cvs{BLAH} |
| 10:36.49 | florian_kc | yeah... |
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| 12:13.45 | florian_kc | Usually i try to avoid this... but: |
| 12:13.48 | florian_kc | http://www.ms1.de/wordpress/wp-content/20051114aptgetwifeg.jpg |
| 12:18.17 | ade|desk | amusing indeed |
| 12:18.35 | XorA | florian_kc: :-D so true in some cases |
| 12:19.35 | florian_kc | XorA: yeah... |
| 12:20.34 | XorA | florian_kc: for me wife V2.0 is a lot more successful |
| 12:23.31 | ade|desk | whats the upgrade path like ? many dummey packages needed ? |
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| 12:25.58 | XorA | ade|desk: RDEPENDS: lose-all-money RRECOMENDS: lots-of-beer |
| 12:27.04 | florian_kc | XorA: heh |
| 12:27.13 | ade|desk | lol |
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| 13:41.14 | koen | hi all |
| 13:41.33 | koen | florian_kc: I'm going to push the gpe updates right now |
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| 13:55.57 | koen | florian_kc: | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/work/arm-linux/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21701: PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG: command not found| /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/work/arm-linux/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21824: syntax error near unexpected token `cairo,'| /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/work/arm-linux/libgpewidget-0.107-r0/libgpewidget-0.107/configure: line 21824: ` |
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| 14:18.56 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 14:19.27 | florian_kc | koen: push and rebuild pkgconfig first |
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| 14:31.46 | florian_kc | pb_: hi |
| 14:34.06 | pb_ | florian_kc: good afternoon! |
| 14:34.49 | koen | fighting obelisk would be more troublesome |
| 14:35.02 | florian_kc | *g* |
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| 14:49.40 | justalad | pb_: Asterisk on handhelds computer?! |
| 14:50.43 | justalad | wherefore?! |
| 14:51.57 | florian_kc | someone just noticed that libxsettings-client 0.15 was screwed up... |
| 14:54.08 | florian_kc | koen: did you manage to make libgpewidget compile? |
| 14:54.15 | moray | did anyone fix things to remove debian/ directories from the tarballs? |
| 14:54.41 | koen | florian_kc: not yet, trying from scratch now |
| 14:54.43 | florian_kc | hmm... not yet |
| 14:55.20 | moray | I was hoping to update Debian stuff this weekend |
| 14:55.21 | florian_kc | koen: pkgconfig-native is guilty... |
| 14:55.29 | florian_kc | moray: oh cool |
| 14:55.54 | moray | if the scripts are fixed I guess I could make blah.1 releases myself, just increases the chance of breaking things along the way, though |
| 14:59.43 | florian_kc | The only thing i can imagine breaking is building packages for maemo... but thats my personal problem i can solve easily. |
| 15:01.05 | moray | florian_kc: well, I mostly meant just in terms of the process |
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| 15:01.21 | moray | e.g. uploading a version with broken changes by mistake |
| 15:01.22 | florian_kc | moray: okay :-) |
| 15:02.15 | florian_kc | moray: but most important things are just released... gpe-calendar is the only one which needs a release. |
| 15:02.51 | moray | ok |
| 15:03.22 | florian_kc | I just tried the latest oen on my ipaq and it is good... so this situation won't persist :-) |
| 15:03.52 | moray | have things that have been released recently avoided debian/ in the tar, or does the script still need fixed? |
| 15:05.07 | pb_ | justalad: no, not on a handheld |
| 15:05.12 | florian_kc | that needs to be fixed in Makefile.am for most packages... |
| 15:05.13 | pb_ | afternoon dc__ |
| 15:06.22 | pb_ | bbiab, going to pick my car up |
| 15:06.25 | pb_ | hopefully the brakes will work now |
| 15:06.40 | florian_kc | I just got mail from some guy building gpe-appmgr... |
| 15:06.54 | moray | pb_: sounds a desirable property for brakes |
| 15:07.17 | pb_ | yeah. well, fairly desirable for all parts of the vehicle I suppose. |
| 15:07.41 | dc__ | new connection today |
| 15:07.43 | dc__ | lovely :) |
| 15:08.00 | pb_ | very good |
| 15:08.08 | pb_ | our new fibre connection is also working now, at last |
| 15:08.13 | dc__ | nice |
| 15:08.15 | dc__ | waht speed is that?> |
| 15:08.30 | pb_ | 8Mbps |
| 15:08.42 | pb_ | apparently the physical layer is rated for 192Gbps, but we can't afford quite that much bandwidth |
| 15:09.15 | pb_ | afk now for rea |
| 15:09.16 | pb_ | real, too |
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| 15:10.07 | dc__ | doh |
| 15:10.11 | ||cw | do you get bursts or is unlimited transfer with 8M max |
| 15:10.12 | dc__ | mine is 18 :P |
| 15:10.31 | dc__ | I can stream 1080p now :D |
| 15:10.48 | dc__ | which _just_ fits my 24" |
| 15:10.55 | dc__ | now I need silly quicktime pro |
| 15:11.04 | dc__ | how fustrating they make you pay for full screen |
| 15:11.16 | ||cw | was res is the monitoy? |
| 15:11.25 | dc__ | 1920x1200 |
| 15:11.29 | ||cw | na, just get mplayer |
| 15:11.40 | dc__ | may have to use that |
| 15:11.47 | ||cw | 1080p is 1280x1080 isn't it? |
| 15:11.58 | dc__ | hrm |
| 15:11.59 | florian_kc | moray: I just fixed it in libgpewidget. |
| 15:12.10 | dc__ | well the window is the same width as the screen |
| 15:12.26 | ||cw | that's where 1080 comes from, 1080 lines verticaly |
| 15:12.30 | koen | dc__: get SerialBox from the net |
| 15:12.35 | dc__ | oh? |
| 15:12.40 | dc__ | koen: what's that? |
| 15:12.51 | koen | that help you remember all the serials you 'forgot' |
| 15:12.56 | dc__ | ahh |
| 15:12.58 | dc__ | nice |
| 15:13.01 | dc__ | os x |
| 15:13.02 | dc__ | nicer |
| 15:13.03 | dc__ | doh. |
| 15:13.10 | dc__ | well qt plays at 0.5 fps |
| 15:14.55 | ||cw | it's sexy |
| 15:15.09 | ||cw | too bad it's not 64-bit |
| 15:15.23 | koen | yeah |
| 15:15.27 | koen | I'll wait for |
| 15:15.32 | koen | a) enough cash |
| 15:15.35 | ||cw | heh |
| 15:15.42 | koen | b) 2nd gen without bugs |
| 15:15.46 | koen | c) 12" version |
| 15:15.49 | ||cw | that's actualy not a bad price for a high end laptop |
| 15:16.13 | dc__ | yeah |
| 15:16.15 | dc__ | 12" would rock |
| 15:16.30 | ||cw | http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/12/did-shortages-force-apple-to-skip-other-intel-models/ |
| 15:16.48 | koen | my 12" powerbook is only 2 years old, so I can wait for some months/years |
| 15:17.01 | ||cw | "not to buy a MacBook Pro, and hinted that the dropped models were "much cooler" than even a 12-inch MacBook." |
| 15:17.12 | ||cw | wonder what's commong |
| 15:17.42 | dc__ | ah |
| 15:17.45 | dc__ | greasemonkey to the rescue |
| 15:17.48 | koen | 12" tablet would be cool |
| 15:17.56 | dc__ | insert download links for apple's hd trailers |
| 15:17.59 | dc__ | nice |
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| 15:21.02 | ||cw | hm, more EFI news... appearently apple's ad stating it's setting Intel's chips free from "dull little boxes, dutifully performing dull little tasks." has gotten under the skin of some intel peeps and they are leaking that the intelmac chipset is a 945 and can easily be made to boot windows xp |
| 15:21.49 | ||cw | ah, when large companies partner and then piss each other off |
| 15:21.52 | ||cw | so much fun |
| 15:28.14 | dc__ | great. mplayer just killed my box |
| 15:28.52 | moray | mplayer is evil |
| 15:29.43 | dc__ | indeed |
| 15:55.24 | ||cw | killed? |
| 16:11.50 | pb_ | re |
| 16:11.56 | pb_ | excellent, my brakes do indeed work again |
| 16:15.38 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 16:38.51 | zecke | pb_: and windows are fixed as well? |
| 16:50.01 | florian_kc | pb_: After making atd available again i suffer from the effect that starting gpe-calendar triggers an old alarm. |
| 16:50.11 | florian_kc | I think we had this before... |
| 17:18.54 | pb_ | zecke: sadly no, not yet |
| 17:19.13 | pb_ | zecke: the cats are still in residence |
| 17:19.28 | pb_ | florian_kc: that is unfortunate |
| 17:19.34 | zecke | pb_: do you use your car at all? |
| 17:19.49 | pb_ | yeah, almost every day |
| 17:20.48 | zecke | pb_: ouch |
| 17:23.40 | pb_ | well, it's not too bad, at least they keep the seats warm |
| 17:31.45 | florian_kc | heh |
| 17:33.53 | florian_kc | Hrm... matchbox-panel dies if i start my cool xlibgtkmixwhatever application :-/ |
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| 18:18.33 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:32.16 | koen|tv | Philippe: I can't seem to find the webcore patches you mentioned in OE, could you mail them to me, so I can put them in the release branch? |
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| 19:05.24 | hrhr | hi all |
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| 19:13.25 | florian | re |
| 19:33.44 | Luke-Jr | I'm working on a GPE-killer ;) |
| 19:34.59 | florian | Luke-Jr: ! |
| 19:35.22 | Luke-Jr | florian: ! :) |
| 19:38.59 | florian | Luke-Jr: what are you doing? |
| 19:39.45 | Luke-Jr | florian: building kde in OE |
| 19:40.20 | florian | Luke-Jr: okay... no reason to get afraid ;-) |
| 19:40.29 | Luke-Jr | KDE owns GNOME, let alone GPE |
| 19:40.58 | koen|tv | only on h5550 ;) |
| 19:41.05 | Luke-Jr | a what? |
| 19:41.17 | koen|tv | a pda with 128mb ram :p |
| 19:41.29 | Luke-Jr | ;) |
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| 19:46.28 | pb__ | hrm, seems that my pstn dialout problem is actually a bug in the phones. |
| 19:46.59 | Luke-Jr | pb_: GPE has a phone? |
| 19:48.36 | florian | Hmm good point... |
| 19:48.59 | pb__ | florian: that sounds interesting |
| 19:49.21 | pb__ | come to think of it, what happened to linphone? It seems to have vanished from the gpe-image in 0.8.3-rc1. |
| 19:51.02 | florian | pb__: The configuration thing... smartphones become more and more common. We need to keep this in mind to introduce some kind of state management. |
| 19:51.28 | pb__ | What sort of state are you thinking of? |
| 19:52.31 | Luke-Jr | pb_: who needs linphone, isn't minisip better? |
| 19:53.19 | ||cw | sip != gsm |
| 19:53.34 | pb__ | ||cw: thanks for clearing that up |
| 19:53.53 | pb__ | I get confused sometimes. |
| 19:53.54 | ||cw | gsm < sip |
| 19:54.05 | ||cw | er |
| 19:54.10 | ||cw | gsm > sip |
| 19:55.02 | florian | pb__: Global settings influencing application behaviour. e.g. a notification to stop updates for these omap stuff on the 770. Maemo and the 770 are good examples - thats phone technology in hard- and software. |
| 19:55.16 | ||cw | Luke-Jr: beside, SIP is just Session initiation Protocol. it realy doens't have anythign to do with phones, other than VIOP tends to use it to start the session |
| 19:55.23 | pb__ | florian: ah right, yes |
| 19:55.56 | pb__ | florian: we should indeed have more of that stuff. I think that D-BUS will be useful as an enabling technology for this. |
| 19:56.01 | florian | pb__: In this context it is a little bit funny that the 770 isn't a phone :-) |
| 19:56.17 | pb__ | heh, indeed |
| 19:56.27 | Luke-Jr | ||cw: gsm is a codec |
| 19:56.42 | Luke-Jr | and all that's regardless of minisip being software |
| 19:57.09 | pb__ | florian: I wonder if nokia have any plans to do a kind of n770/9x00 crossover device with maemo and gsm. |
| 19:57.26 | ||cw | Luke-Jr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM |
| 19:58.11 | ||cw | Luke-Jr: GSM is how cell phones talk to the cell network. |
| 19:58.25 | florian | pb__: Thats what is used for the maemo stuff too... |
| 19:58.47 | pb__ | florian: oh right, yeah, I guess it is |
| 19:59.05 | florian | pb__: Same here... that was the first thing we asked for when they showed us the 770 :-) |
| 19:59.51 | pb__ | It does seem to be an obvious next step. I guess we need to wait and see :-) |
| 20:00.19 | florian | pb__: The technology is almost there... i just hope they do. |
| 20:00.42 | florian | btw... |
| 20:00.47 | pb__ | that said, I haven't been all that impressed by Nokia's phones lately. The other day, I bought a non-Nokia cellphone for the first time in almost ten years. |
| 20:01.05 | florian | pb__: Motorola? |
| 20:01.08 | pb__ | yeah |
| 20:01.26 | florian | With Linux or without? |
| 20:02.10 | pb__ | without |
| 20:02.41 | pb__ | I might see if I can get hold of one of their linux smartphones too, though. |
| 20:03.59 | florian | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/MppApi |
| 20:04.30 | florian | I found this some time ago... these specs mention GTK stuff in some places. |
| 20:04.32 | zecke | florian: you don't want that API to be implemented |
| 20:04.43 | florian | zecke: heh |
| 20:05.45 | florian | zecke: Some parts look pretty useless and way too complicated for what they do... |
| 20:08.23 | pb__ | I wonder why it thinks that libc_sources.redhat.com__20050626.tar.gz is the right file to unpack when building the 20050627 version of glibc |
| 20:08.46 | florian | zecke: I played with an available linux phone some time ago... the software is a pain, libraries and kernel terribly outdated... the "SDK", well... an OE toolchain is a killer compared to that. |
| 20:08.47 | zecke | pb__: you don't know? |
| 20:08.53 | pb__ | zecke: no, I don't know |
| 20:09.02 | florian | pb__: huh |
| 20:09.25 | zecke | florian: well you don't like MontaVista Linux? |
| 20:09.39 | zecke | florian: maybe your mind is not ready for enterprise linux? |
| 20:09.50 | florian | zecke: hehe |
| 20:10.36 | zecke | pb__: that sounds really odd |
| 20:10.43 | pb__ | zecke: that was my thought also |
| 20:11.01 | zecke | pb__: maybe some lacking update_data somehwere... |
| 20:11.09 | zecke | pb__: where is it getting the CVSDATE from? |
| 20:11.12 | florian | zecke: in fact i'm not sure wo was responsible for this crap. |
| 20:11.25 | pb__ | zecke: it's hardwired in the .bb file |
| 20:11.43 | pb__ | I guess I should update my bitbake. I probably have some way old version. |
| 20:12.24 | pb__ | if I pull the trunk, is that going to break everything? |
| 20:13.00 | zecke | pb__: it shouldn't if you previously used 1.3.2 |
| 20:13.12 | pb__ | yeah, 1.3.2 is what I have |
| 20:13.18 | pb__ | okay, here goes |
| 20:13.22 | zecke | pb__: the reverse hashing does not break anything (cross fingers) |
| 20:14.08 | pb__ | righto |
| 20:14.26 | florian | zecke: btw... iirc you are familiar with that stuff, right? |
| 20:14.42 | pb__ | zecke: hrm, drat, still the same |
| 20:14.51 | pb__ | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0: task do_fetch: started |
| 20:14.51 | pb__ | NOTE: fetch http://www.treke.net/oe/source/libc_sources.redhat.com__20050626.tar.gz |
| 20:14.58 | pb__ | this is no good |
| 20:15.12 | pb__ | well, I guess I could just symlink the file to the name it wants |
| 20:15.50 | zecke | pb__: lol |
| 20:21.22 | pb__ | rock, looks like I am back in business |
| 20:22.39 | florian | I hacked a program with one Xlib and and one gtk window today... |
| 20:23.00 | pb__ | florian: crumbs, that sounds quite nasty |
| 20:23.17 | florian | (for a customer, i'd never do open stuff in this way) |
| 20:23.21 | pb__ | heh |
| 20:23.42 | florian | pb__: well... they don't want to pay for a proper solution. |
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| 20:24.08 | pb__ | that's always the problem with customers |
| 20:24.42 | florian | pb__: It seems to work pretty good to have the X event handler in the gtk idle loop :-) |
| 20:25.01 | pb__ | ha :-) |
| 20:25.51 | mreimer | pb__, are you patiently compiling an EABI glibc? :-P |
| 20:26.04 | pb__ | mreimer: heh, no, just a regular one |
| 20:26.32 | pb__ | an EABI one would probably exhaust my reserves of patience |
| 20:26.53 | mreimer | then there's no hope for the rest of us :-) |
| 20:27.01 | pb__ | I thought I'd poke at this locale generation stuff a bit. |
| 20:27.04 | Luke-Jr | EABI? |
| 20:27.48 | mreimer | ~ibot EABI |
| 20:30.53 | zecke | pb__: yeah ;) |
| 20:31.10 | florian | pb__: rock! |
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| 20:38.18 | florian | Do i want to start an unofficial familiar repository for all sorts of scary devices? |
| 20:39.12 | pb__ | sounds like a fun plan |
| 20:42.02 | florian | Would be fun... but time is the problem :-/ |
| 20:43.50 | florian | Lets fix gpe-what first... |
| 20:54.18 | florian | ...done. |
| 20:54.33 | pb__ | crumbs, that was quick! |
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| 20:55.05 | florian | pb__: indeed... i spent half a night trying this before! |
| 20:56.49 | florian | pb__: height and width in handle_size_allocate() were wrong. Not that i have any clue... |
| 20:57.24 | pb__ | florian: oh, right. awesome. |
| 20:57.29 | pb__ | all hail florian! |
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| 21:09.41 | florian | *argh* This university is a pain! |
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| 21:15.51 | florian | pb__: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/boor/files/gpe-what1.png |
| 21:16.18 | pb__ | florian: excellent! |
| 21:16.27 | pb__ | it doesn't look quite right on the right-hand side, but I think it's definitely good enough |
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| 21:17.09 | florian | pb__: i think thats the shadow from the icon in the window |
| 21:17.15 | pb__ | oh, right |
| 21:17.19 | pb__ | in that case it seems perfect! |
| 21:18.01 | florian | okay... lets call this 0.42 :-) |
| 21:18.56 | pb__ | rock |
| 21:21.05 | vtowel_ | nice :) |
| 21:21.20 | vtowel_ | question: what do people here use for their mail client in GPE? |
| 21:21.31 | pb__ | sylpheed, last time I tried |
| 21:21.36 | pb__ | I haven't used it for a while though |
| 21:22.21 | vtowel_ | cool thanks |
| 21:22.57 | florian | Okay... now gpe-calendar. |
| 21:27.40 | koen | florian: libgpewidget build ok |
| 21:27.46 | koen | s/build/built/ |
| 21:28.10 | florian | heh |
| 21:28.48 | florian | koen: okay... i'm just adding gpe-what 0.42 |
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| 21:33.21 | koen | florian: gpe-what 0.42 is in my local copy of the release branch, ready for testing |
| 21:33.37 | koen | which will have to wait till tomorrow |
| 21:33.40 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:39.50 | florian | koen|sleep: okay... good night |
| 21:58.28 | vtowel_ | another question: anyone here know the best VNC client for Familiar? |
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| 22:00.08 | mimecar | evening |
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| 22:08.35 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 22:09.02 | mimecar | evening florian |
| 22:10.29 | mimecar | is there a list with gpe 0.83 new features ? |
| 22:15.47 | florian | phew... well.... not really. but its quite some stuff. |
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| 22:16.47 | mimecar | it's curiosity |
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| 22:22.21 | Opip | hi |
| 22:22.26 | Opip | somebody with 2210 ? |
| 22:22.49 | mimecar | no, only zaurus |
| 22:23.16 | mimecar | I (other peopple can use another PDA) |
| 22:23.30 | Opip | ok |
| 22:23.40 | Opip | what bootloader use zaurus ? |
| 22:23.45 | florian | pb_: Is there any reason not to release gpe-calendar 0.68? |
| 22:23.54 | mimecar | it doesn't use a bootloader |
| 22:24.04 | mimecar | a key combination and FLASHING the pda |
| 22:24.05 | florian | s/pb_/pb__ |
| 22:24.30 | Opip | ok |
| 22:24.56 | mimecar | it's easier flash on zaurus than pocket pc |
| 22:25.16 | pb__ | florian: nope, please go ahead and do that |
| 22:25.29 | florian | hi Opip |
| 22:25.35 | florian | ok :-) |
| 22:26.40 | Opip | :( |
| 22:26.44 | Opip | I need help |
| 22:26.48 | Opip | mi ipaq is :P |
| 22:28.42 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 22:28.53 | florian | koen|sleep has a h22something... |
| 22:29.53 | Opip | yes but he is sleep :P |
| 22:30.29 | Opip | I don't understand how work LAB |
| 22:31.02 | Opip | What read first ? zImage ? |
| 22:32.12 | mreimer | LAB boots, then loads a zImage from /dev/mmcblk0p1 /boot/zImage and boots that |
| 22:33.01 | Opip | ok but I have the sd card with rootfs system and don't read |
| 22:33.20 | Opip | it |
| 22:34.09 | Opip | I make it |
| 22:34.20 | Opip | download de gpe-image-h2200-20060106002350.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 22:34.30 | Opip | tar -jxvf gpe-image-h2200-20060106002350.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 22:34.33 | Opip | cd gpe.... |
| 22:34.42 | Opip | mv * /mnt/sdcard |
| 22:34.54 | Opip | and late put it in the ipaq |
| 23:16.29 | jcole_awy | it would be awesome to merge gpe figment with gpe to do |
| 23:17.46 | jcole | i find gpe figment more useful for to do stuff than gpe to do |
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| 23:19.33 | florian | jcole: Some features of it are nice, but it isn't maintained anymore :-( |
| 23:20.51 | jcole | florian: hmm, would be nice to toggle to a hierarchy in gpe todo similar to figment |
| 23:21.24 | florian | jcole: wouldn't be that hard, the widget used there is powerful enough. |
| 23:21.42 | florian | but yes, i'd like to see this too... |
| 23:23.21 | florian | good night |
| 23:23.57 | jcole | are there any commercial devices running gpe? all i see is opie and/or qtopia |
| 23:25.23 | jcole | this page could use more updating ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPE_Palmtop_Environment |
| 23:25.34 | florian | not yet... okay, the Hoeft&Wessel Integral on request... we are working on a fix for this issue :-) |
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