| 00:22.08 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 05:19.39 | Russ | cool, playing shoutcast streams with mpd is really nice |
| 05:19.53 | Russ | someone really needs to come up with an ipodish frontend to mpd though |
| 05:21.14 | Russ | aw |
| 05:21.15 | Russ | crap |
| 05:21.17 | Russ | its patented |
| 05:22.22 | Russ | I don't like apple anymore |
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| 08:50.44 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:44.08 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:46.25 | pb__ | florian_kc: good morning! |
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| 10:18.50 | rob_w | guys .. how capable is oe to switch MACHINE`s .. |
| 10:19.23 | rob_w | what i mean is , can i just change the local.conf after i made a image for arm .. then switch and make a image for mips ? |
| 10:21.25 | krokas | = ) |
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| 10:21.57 | pb__ | theoretically, yeah |
| 10:22.05 | krokas | I know one guy who was trying to compile GPE for x86 |
| 10:22.14 | krokas | and he failed on this |
| 10:22.16 | florian_kc | i would use separate dirs... |
| 10:22.17 | krokas | ;) |
| 10:22.19 | pb__ | you might need to be using multi-machine.inc for that to work, though. I don't remember exactly. |
| 10:22.25 | pb__ | yeah, using separate dirs is always safer |
| 10:22.42 | rob_w | you seperate tmp dirs ? |
| 10:23.40 | florian_kc | i wrote a simple script taking the machine as an argument setting up the correct environment... |
| 10:23.52 | rob_w | you mean seperate tmp dirs ? |
| 10:25.04 | florian_kc | right... |
| 10:27.05 | rob_w | so i clone the build dir .. edit the local.conf and set in the local.conf the BBPATH accordingly ! |
| 10:27.42 | florian_kc | zep |
| 10:27.47 | florian_kc | eh yep |
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| 10:52.56 | hrhr | hi all |
| 10:53.05 | hrhr | florin : are you here? |
| 10:53.07 | krokas | hi hrhr |
| 10:53.12 | hrhr | * florian |
| 10:54.00 | hrhr | can anybody help me localize me gpe? |
| 10:54.22 | florian_kc | hrhr: to some extend.... |
| 10:54.40 | hrhr | i install all gpe-*-locale-ru |
| 10:54.47 | hrhr | gtk+locale-ru |
| 10:54.52 | hrhr | localebase-ru-ru |
| 10:54.59 | hrhr | glibc-locale-ru |
| 10:55.03 | hrhr | glibc-localedata-ru |
| 10:56.22 | hrhr | also i install vera fonts with cyrillic symbols |
| 10:58.41 | hrhr | ...no ideas? |
| 10:59.17 | hrhr | i can choice in login screen russian, but no effect |
| 11:00.04 | hrhr | in logs i have "locale not supported by C library" |
| 11:00.11 | krokas | hrhr: |
| 11:00.15 | krokas | Tried this? |
| 11:00.18 | krokas | http://linux.su/ipaq.shtml |
| 11:00.22 | hrhr | yes |
| 11:00.26 | hrhr | i read it |
| 11:00.39 | rob_w | arg .. glibc breaks on mips |
| 11:00.56 | hrhr | i install ru_RU keyboard and seen russian letters on it |
| 11:00.58 | rob_w | rror: `err' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 11:01.15 | hrhr | i have hx4700 |
| 11:01.18 | france | florian_kc: morning |
| 11:01.24 | florian_kc | hi france |
| 11:01.47 | krokas | hello france |
| 11:02.03 | hrhr | hi france....can you help me? |
| 11:02.22 | france | hrhr: I will try |
| 11:02.51 | hrhr | have you seen my messages or describe my problem? |
| 11:03.03 | france | nope, sorry, been doing other things.... |
| 11:03.36 | hrhr | i can't localize gpe on my hx4700 |
| 11:03.47 | hrhr | i install locale-base-ru-ru |
| 11:03.53 | hrhr | glibc-locale-ru |
| 11:03.57 | hrhr | glibc-localedata-ru |
| 11:04.01 | hrhr | gtk+locale-ru |
| 11:04.13 | hrhr | and all of gpe-*-ru |
| 11:04.57 | hrhr | i have error in session log : "locale not supported by C library" |
| 11:06.09 | france | what does 'set | grep LANG' tell you? |
| 11:06.56 | hrhr | in user term LANG=ru_RU |
| 11:07.17 | france | All that warning message is saying, it that the program you are trying to start hasn't been translated into the language, that is set in your environment variable. |
| 11:08.02 | hrhr | i try to run only gpe apps |
| 11:08.09 | france | if the program has been translated into ru_RU, then there is another issue... |
| 11:08.19 | france | have those apps been translated into ru? |
| 11:08.33 | hrhr | and i cant enter russian characters nowhere |
| 11:08.35 | hrhr | yes |
| 11:08.39 | hrhr | all of it |
| 11:08.43 | france | of they have then we have a different issue. |
| 11:09.02 | france | ok, then using a small program start with strace. |
| 11:10.11 | hrhr | i haven't strace in feeds =[ |
| 11:10.18 | france | :-( |
| 11:10.28 | france | krokas: hello! |
| 11:10.40 | hrhr | i have only standart feeds |
| 11:11.00 | hrhr | http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/ |
| 11:11.36 | krokas | france, What's up in the handhelds.org and the GPE world ? :) |
| 11:11.37 | hrhr | yest i upgrade system from koen's feeds and my ipaq dies |
| 11:11.49 | hrhr | i need reflash it |
| 11:11.54 | france | :-( |
| 11:11.56 | florian_kc | gpe release preparations.... |
| 11:12.11 | france | krokas: just working on clean up from the moving of the servers. still lots to be done. |
| 11:12.41 | florian_kc | hrhr: ah right... that feed isn|t intended for upgrading, only to install single packages |
| 11:12.53 | france | florian_kc: :-D |
| 11:13.03 | krokas | france: Is the dev cluster online again? I think the last time i tried it was offline... |
| 11:13.16 | krokas | Want a lot to try it |
| 11:13.28 | hrhr | florian_kc: i install only evince |
| 11:13.30 | krokas | Really useful for development on ARM |
| 11:13.43 | hrhr | but it killed my ipaq |
| 11:13.44 | hrhr | (( |
| 11:13.52 | hrhr | gconf-vfs-dbus |
| 11:14.00 | france | krokas: I need to call the folks at osu today and see what is happening. |
| 11:14.00 | hrhr | from koen feeds |
| 11:14.43 | krokas | france, oh, ok. Really the dev cluster is really useful and cool |
| 11:15.50 | florian_kc | hrhr: hmm... that should not do any harm.. what happened then? |
| 11:16.34 | hrhr | it writes me a lot of warnings about files that provided by another package |
| 11:16.46 | hrhr | i remove t |
| 11:16.47 | hrhr | it |
| 11:17.00 | hrhr | and install from ewi |
| 11:17.31 | hrhr | it install with dependences many packages and some upgrade |
| 11:17.44 | florian_kc | ah okay... nastz |
| 11:18.46 | hrhr | after that i has blinking display with X in center |
| 11:20.00 | hrhr | and i have erace error if i try reflash hx4700 to new image |
| 11:20.38 | hrhr | only when i disconnect battary and insert ait after some time i reflash my ipaq |
| 11:23.20 | florian_kc | oops |
| 11:23.35 | hrhr | france: maybe i need install glibc-gconv? |
| 11:24.30 | france | hrhr: it would be a different error message. |
| 11:24.30 | france | try 'set | grep LC', grasping at straws.... |
| 11:25.30 | hrhr | i haven't LC in set |
| 11:25.37 | france | ok |
| 11:26.09 | hrhr | ok?... |
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| 11:26.48 | france | try, set LC_ALL=ru_RU, IIRC |
| 11:28.11 | hrhr | france: ru_RU or ru_RU.UTF-8 ? |
| 11:29.48 | france | hrhr: I would have to look more at the configuration for ru. |
| 11:32.11 | france | it also makes me wonder if other languages are broken |
| 11:32.38 | hrhr | frabnce: can i write in ~/.profile export LC_ALL=ru_RU |
| 11:32.40 | hrhr | ? |
| 11:33.31 | france | that should work |
| 11:34.43 | hrhr | when i press any russian letter on keyboard, starts gpe-recorder |
| 11:36.04 | florian_kc | hrm... how much of ram does this device have? |
| 11:36.16 | hrhr | 64mb |
| 11:37.16 | hrhr | may be i need glibc-charmap-utf8? |
| 11:37.24 | florian_kc | It might be possibel that locale generation failed... the stupid localegen tool eats up too much memory. |
| 11:37.48 | florian_kc | iirc this is one of the blocking bugs for 0.8.3 |
| 11:37.49 | hrhr | how i can generate new locale? |
| 11:39.05 | florian_kc | hrhr: i do not know offhand, but the postinstst scripts for the glibc locale packages should contain these bits. |
| 11:39.44 | hrhr | i need reinstall glibc? |
| 11:40.24 | hrhr | minibrowser not show any russian content((( |
| 11:40.36 | hrhr | only english |
| 11:45.24 | florian_kc | hmm no, it works or it fails with 64mb... if it fails it will fail again. |
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| 11:46.03 | florian_kc | hrhr: zes... thats a known bug in gtk-webcore... Kompo might know if this is fixed in upstream. |
| 11:47.11 | hrhr | florian_kc: dillo2 works normally? |
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| 11:49.08 | florian_kc | hrhr: i dont know... but its worth a try. |
| 11:50.03 | hrhr | what browsers i can use in gpe?....in ewi i find firefox, have anybody info about it working ? |
| 11:51.29 | XorA | hrhr: I use firefox |
| 11:52.08 | hrhr | what handheld are you use? |
| 11:52.20 | XorA | hrhr: Zaurus c860 |
| 11:52.32 | hrhr | root@ipaq-pxa270:/var/tmp# ipkg install gnome-vfs-dbus |
| 11:52.32 | hrhr | Installing gnome-vfs-dbus (2.8.4.4-r1) to root... |
| 11:52.32 | hrhr | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/gnome-vfs-dbus_2.8.4.4-r1_arm.ipk |
| 11:52.35 | hrhr | Installing gnome-vfs-plugin-file (2.8.4.4-r1) to root... |
| 11:52.38 | hrhr | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/gnome-vfs-plugin-file_2.8.4.4-r1_arm.ipk |
| 11:52.41 | hrhr | Installing shared-mime-info (0.16-r1) to root... |
| 11:52.43 | hrhr | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/base/shared-mime-info_0.16-r1_arm.ipk |
| 11:52.46 | hrhr | Installing gnome-vfs-dbus (2.8.4.4-r1) to root... |
| 11:52.49 | hrhr | ipkg: (null): Bad address |
| 11:52.54 | hrhr | Configuring gnome-vfs-dbus |
| 11:52.57 | hrhr | Configuring gnome-vfs-plugin-file |
| 11:52.59 | hrhr | Configuring shared-mime-info |
| 11:53.01 | hrhr | Updating MIME database... this may take a while. |
| 11:53.04 | hrhr | *** |
| 11:53.07 | hrhr | * Updating MIME database in /usr/share/mime... |
| 11:53.09 | hrhr | *** |
| 11:53.11 | hrhr | fuck |
| 11:53.14 | hrhr | Bad address error.... |
| 11:53.17 | hrhr | what is it? |
| 11:53.19 | hrhr | i need more memory? |
| 11:53.42 | hrhr | XorA: and what you can say about firefox on handheld? |
| 11:55.19 | XorA | hrhr: its a touch slow but perfectly usable as long as you stick away from flash/javascript nightmare creations |
| 11:55.51 | florian_kc | hrhr: never seen this before... sounds nasty. |
| 12:03.27 | hrhr | i find problem |
| 12:04.05 | hrhr | when i try upgrade gnome-vfs from 2.8.4.4 to 2.12.0 system crush |
| 12:05.09 | hrhr | 2.12.0 fromkoen feeds |
| 12:07.50 | hrhr | fuck....i can't install any program from ewi |
| 12:07.56 | hrhr | gtk based |
| 12:16.30 | poli | Any PDF readers working on 0.8.3 feeds? :) |
| 12:16.31 | florian_kc | france: Did i send mails about Familiar RC1 on Simpad and about atd to the familiar-dev ml_ |
| 12:16.56 | florian_kc | That depends on the screen size. |
| 12:17.02 | florian_kc | evince e.g. |
| 12:17.51 | hrhr | evince not in base feeds |
| 12:17.56 | hrhr | only on ewi |
| 12:17.57 | hrhr | (( |
| 12:18.48 | france | florian_kc: yesterday, about 7 am EST, IIRC |
| 12:19.26 | hrhr | XorA: how much ram on your device? |
| 12:19.38 | XorA | hrhr: 64M |
| 12:21.30 | hrhr | firefox-bin use 16MB of my ram and i can't see anything =/ |
| 12:21.30 | florian_kc | france: hrm... i didnt receive this... something nasty is going on here... |
| 12:22.24 | france | :-( |
| 12:22.43 | france | florian_kc: do you need me to check the e-mail logs? |
| 12:25.54 | florian_kc | france: not really... i can remember koen|away answered to that mail and that one is missing too. |
| 12:26.24 | france | florian_kc: copies should be in the archives |
| 12:26.30 | florian_kc | right |
| 12:27.16 | hrhr | XorA: how long firefox starts at first time? |
| 12:27.45 | poli | I am having issues with minimo to :( |
| 12:28.06 | poli | Does not run and no errors found. |
| 12:28.26 | france | florian_kc: I did a quick grep through the logs, with no errors found. |
| 12:28.40 | XorA | hrhr: first time takes LOOOONG time |
| 12:28.59 | XorA | hrhr: what cpu speed you have? |
| 12:29.03 | hrhr | florian: by default gkdial use /dev/modem |
| 12:29.12 | florian_kc | france: okay... definitely a local isue here. |
| 12:29.13 | hrhr | XorA: 624mhz |
| 12:29.26 | hrhr | florian: ? |
| 12:29.27 | XorA | hrhr: 200MHz faster thsan me, should be a bit better then |
| 12:30.03 | hrhr | XorA: i hope =) |
| 12:30.30 | florian_kc | hrhr: yes |
| 12:31.01 | hrhr | florian: and i can't change it in any configs? |
| 12:32.49 | XorA | hrhr: no you cant |
| 12:33.31 | florian_kc | hrhr: currently not... it would be easy to add this feature but i dont have time to do this so far. |
| 12:33.53 | hrhr | ok..onle ln -sf... |
| 12:34.18 | hrhr | *only |
| 12:35.08 | hrhr | florian: why gkdial only in ewi feeds and not in base? |
| 12:35.22 | hrhr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.22 | hrhr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.22 | hrhr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.23 | hrhr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.43 | hrhr | firefox use all cpu res... |
| 12:37.50 | florian_kc | hrhr: i dont know what we have in the rc1 but if something is missing ask koen|away or mail to the familiar mailinglist. |
| 12:38.07 | hrhr | florian: ok |
| 12:39.33 | poli | Is there any working PDF reader in 0.8.3? I can't get the gpdf from the 0.8.2 feed installed. |
| 12:42.08 | florian_kc | poli: did you trz evince? |
| 12:43.40 | hrhr | evince from ewi make die my hx4700 while upgrade all dependences |
| 12:44.23 | poli | florian_kc: I don't have a feed with it. Let me see. |
| 12:45.11 | XorA | I beleive gpdf from 0.8.3 will work as long as you only use dejavu fonts |
| 12:45.24 | XorA | but I havent tested for ages |
| 12:45.39 | poli | XorA: I can't find it in the feeds. |
| 12:46.06 | XorA | poli: It could be still troublesome then |
| 12:54.56 | hrhr | gpe-nmf dies when i try to add 1 mp3 file |
| 12:55.34 | florian_kc | oops |
| 13:00.02 | poli | florian_kc: is trz a feed? |
| 13:03.27 | florian_kc | poli: oops... try |
| 13:03.48 | poli | florian_kc: I can't find the package on ipkgfind :( |
| 13:04.45 | florian_kc | poli: request it on the familiar mailinglist or file a bug. |
| 13:05.16 | poli | florian_kc: request evince? |
| 13:06.28 | florian_kc | poli: to include this package in some feed... |
| 13:06.48 | poli | florian_kc: Oh, thank you. :) I will. :) |
| 13:11.21 | hrhr | florian: what packege contain glibc? |
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| 13:14.42 | hrhr | libc6? |
| 13:19.17 | hrhr | florian_kc: are you here? may I ask you about locales? |
| 13:19.38 | hrhr | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 13:19.38 | hrhr | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 13:19.38 | hrhr | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 13:19.38 | hrhr | LANG= |
| 13:19.38 | hrhr | LC_CTYPE="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.40 | hrhr | LC_NUMERIC="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.43 | hrhr | LC_TIME="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.45 | hrhr | LC_COLLATE="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.56 | hrhr | LC_MONETARY="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.56 | hrhr | LC_MESSAGES="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.56 | hrhr | LC_PAPER="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.56 | hrhr | LC_NAME="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:19.58 | hrhr | LC_ADDRESS="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:20.00 | hrhr | LC_TELEPHONE="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:20.03 | hrhr | LC_MEASUREMENT="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:20.05 | hrhr | LC_IDENTIFICATION="ru_RU.UTF-8" |
| 13:20.08 | hrhr | LC_ALL=ru_RU.UTF-8 |
| 13:20.10 | hrhr | it i have when i type : locale |
| 13:20.13 | hrhr | how i can fix it? |
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| 13:23.00 | hrhr | root@ipaq-pxa270:/etc/ipkg# localedef --no-archive -c -i ru_RU -f UTF-8 ru_RU.utf8 |
| 13:23.01 | hrhr | memory exhausted |
| 13:23.06 | hrhr | fuck..... |
| 13:23.10 | hrhr | fuck........ |
| 13:23.15 | hrhr | I'm sorry... |
| 13:24.01 | florian_kc | hrhr: a hack would be to add swap... but that _needs_ to be fixed properly. |
| 13:26.16 | hrhr | i reboot mydevice and waiting now... |
| 13:26.25 | hrhr | root@ipaq-pxa270:~# localedef --no-archive -c -i ru_RU -f UTF-8 ru_RU.utf8 |
| 13:26.25 | hrhr | Killed |
| 13:26.31 | hrhr | ....=[ |
| 13:26.44 | hrhr | what i need for craete swap |
| 13:26.46 | hrhr | ? |
| 13:34.02 | hrhr | ...i have a swap... |
| 13:34.52 | hrhr | florian_kc: thx......))) |
| 13:35.36 | hrhr | with swap i make locale without errors |
| 13:35.37 | hrhr | ) |
| 13:37.57 | hrhr | YESSSSS |
| 13:38.03 | florian_kc | ah cool |
| 13:38.06 | hrhr | I HAVE RUSSIAN ON MY hx4700 |
| 13:38.20 | hrhr | florian_kc: biiig thx)) |
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| 13:45.40 | florian_kc | ~lart localegen |
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| 13:45.56 | florian_kc | hi shiyee |
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| 13:48.23 | rob_w-mib | hi |
| 13:48.29 | hrhr | florian_kc: i have a big problem when i press russian key the gpe-recorder starting |
| 13:48.39 | rob_w-mib | i need some stupid help |
| 13:48.40 | hrhr | where i can fix this bug |
| 13:48.59 | rob_w-mib | how do i use minicom to login into a serial console .. and get my prompt |
| 13:49.02 | florian_kc | hi rob_w-mib |
| 13:49.51 | florian_kc | rob_w-mib: just configure the serial port. Ctrl+a,o |
| 13:50.05 | florian_kc | and connect the device... |
| 13:50.53 | rob_w-mib | ok .. and then ? |
| 13:51.42 | florian_kc | hrhr: thats an interesting one... the recorder is started by some special key. looks like the xkbd is creating something broken but not what you want... |
| 13:52.03 | rob_w-mib | so i ve the connection and i see a > |
| 13:52.09 | florian_kc | that would be a question for mallum... bu i remember there was some website describing what to do. |
| 13:52.11 | rob_w-mib | but that doesnt ask me to login |
| 13:52.44 | florian_kc | rob_w-mib: is there some getty or just a shell running for this port? |
| 13:52.58 | rob_w-mib | yep .. with hyperterminal it worked nice |
| 13:53.20 | france | rob_w: make sure you have flow control turned off, both h/w and software. |
| 13:53.26 | florian_kc | rob_w-mib: maybe you need to remove the defualt init and reset strings in minicom. |
| 13:53.43 | france | florian_kc: that too. :-) |
| 13:53.50 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 13:57.17 | rob_w-mib | doi need kermit ? |
| 13:58.18 | zecke | florian_kc: did you try using scap on your simpad? |
| 13:59.21 | florian_kc | zecke: not yet, but i can do that today... |
| 13:59.39 | hrhr | florian : |
| 13:59.41 | hrhr | default г default_ks Cyrillic_ghe shift Г shift_ks Cyrillic_GHE |
| 13:59.51 | rob_w-mib | crap is there a better terminal app somewhere ? |
| 13:59.52 | france | rob_w-mib: nope, kermit is not needed. |
| 14:00.11 | rob_w-mib | so i ve no init reset string .. the com parameters .. |
| 14:00.36 | hrhr | florian_kc: where i can find all symbols mapped by gpe? |
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| 14:03.07 | rob_w-mib | termnial should be VT02, right |
| 14:03.47 | florian_kc | hrhr: gpe doesn't map anything... it grabs some keys to launch stuff (see /etc/keylaunchrc), the keyboard mapping is done by the X server. |
| 14:05.08 | hrhr | florian_kc: ok, thx |
| 14:06.53 | florian_kc | bbl food |
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| 14:19.36 | hrhr | hi koen |
| 14:19.41 | koen | hey hrhr |
| 14:20.05 | hrhr | koen: i have some problems with ewi feeds |
| 14:20.23 | koen | me too |
| 14:20.32 | hrhr | lol |
| 14:20.34 | koen | I keep saying "don't use those for upgrading" |
| 14:20.41 | hrhr | yes |
| 14:20.44 | hrhr | i know |
| 14:21.02 | koen | they are a mix of gtk 2.6, gtk 2.8 and various dbus versions |
| 14:21.16 | hrhr | aha... |
| 14:21.35 | hrhr | and gnome-vfs |
| 14:22.18 | hrhr | koen: where i can find evince for latest stable image? |
| 14:22.52 | koen | I just put that in the 0.8.3 feeds |
| 14:23.09 | koen | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/base and http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11 |
| 14:23.20 | hrhr | ok, thx |
| 14:23.43 | hrhr | what else newin updated feeds? |
| 14:23.51 | hrhr | abiword? |
| 14:24.34 | koen | only evince and some updated gpe bits |
| 14:38.12 | shiyee | hrhr: if its any comfort to you, my gpe-recorder will launch when entering = (Shift +)in xkbd... could be related |
| 14:40.46 | hrhr | shiyee: nothing happend when i press it |
| 14:44.38 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:44.44 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 14:44.47 | koen | florian_kc: wb |
| 14:45.10 | florian_kc | ~lart thunderbird |
| 14:45.22 | koen | heh |
| 14:45.29 | koen | I had the same though an hour ago |
| 14:45.40 | koen | I can't seem to add extra cc: fields |
| 14:45.54 | florian_kc | oh great :-/ |
| 14:46.26 | hrhr | koen: how long i need wait for firefox starting? |
| 14:46.36 | florian_kc | i obvieously lost some mails yesterday... the two i sent to familiar-dev at least i never received again. |
| 14:46.41 | koen | hrhr: last I tried I killed it after waiting 2 days(!) |
| 14:47.07 | hrhr | koen: ...=/ |
| 14:47.14 | hrhr | it not works? |
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| 14:47.19 | koen | not for me |
| 14:48.01 | hrhr | how about abiword? |
| 14:48.16 | koen | that worked for me (2.3.99) |
| 14:48.28 | hrhr | from your feeds? |
| 14:48.37 | koen | from the familiar feeds |
| 14:49.28 | hrhr | i can't find abiword in 0.8.3 feeds |
| 14:49.46 | koen | oops |
| 14:49.50 | koen | it's still uploading |
| 14:50.10 | hrhr | how about gimp? |
| 14:54.20 | hrhr | koen: vlc-gpe is absent too |
| 15:12.29 | hrhr | florian: what filemanager i can use in gpe? |
| 15:12.54 | florian_kc | hrhr: gpe-filemanager |
| 15:13.50 | hrhr | thx |
| 15:22.14 | hrhr | i can't read nothing in evince...white list... |
| 15:22.52 | hrhr | Filed to activate configuration server : |
| 15:23.13 | hrhr | The service org.gnome.GConf was not found |
| 15:23.29 | hrhr | in the activation entry list |
| 15:23.36 | hrhr | ...any ideas? |
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| 15:35.39 | hrhr | koen: how about abiword in feeds? |
| 15:36.12 | koen | working on that |
| 15:36.17 | koen | ipkg-make-index is a bit slow |
| 15:36.38 | hrhr | ...in updated feeds will gimp? |
| 15:37.16 | hrhr | and vlc-gpe....or gxine |
| 15:37.24 | hrhr | or any video player |
| 15:39.48 | hrhr | florian_kc: gnome-vfs-plugin-* for gpe-filemanager? |
| 15:40.31 | florian_kc | hrhr: whatever you need... "file" is pretty useful :-) |
| 15:40.58 | hrhr | i find bzip and other... |
| 15:43.42 | hrhr | florian_kc: i find why gpe-nmf crashed on my device...it can't find some fonts...where i can change configuration of it? |
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| 15:54.07 | koen | hrhr: abiword, vlc-gpe and gpe-filemanager are in the 0.8.3 feeds now |
| 15:54.22 | koen | florian_kc: which also means those news gpe-bits are in :) |
| 15:54.28 | hrhr | koen: thx |
| 15:56.51 | poli | koen: hum... how about gpdf or evince, any chance? :) |
| 15:57.05 | florian_kc | hrhr: which fonts? imho it doesn't use fonts different from the other applications. |
| 15:57.17 | florian_kc | koen: cool |
| 15:57.56 | florian_kc | koen: iirc you answered to my mail about 0.8.3 on the Simpad, right? |
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| 15:59.15 | koen | '[Familiar-dev] Familiar 0.8.3 RC1 on Simpad'? |
| 15:59.31 | koen | afaik no-one responded to that |
| 16:00.38 | poli | koen: or any other pdf reader? :) |
| 16:00.48 | koen | poli: evince |
| 16:01.03 | koen | I'm not sure if that version of evince needs the extra fonts |
| 16:01.25 | florian_kc | hmm okay |
| 16:02.00 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar-dev/6/date.html |
| 16:02.13 | florian_kc | koen: thanks |
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| 16:05.52 | dc__ | heey guys |
| 16:05.55 | florian_kc | koen: ah... that error message by gpe-calendar seems to be #1386 |
| 16:05.59 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
| 16:06.33 | pb__ | g'day dc__ |
| 16:11.27 | hrhr | vlc-gpe segmentation foult |
| 16:13.26 | dc__ | hrm |
| 16:13.56 | dc__ | what license could you guys recommend for code for a cms? |
| 16:14.04 | dc__ | not oss :/ |
| 16:15.33 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11043.png |
| 16:15.47 | koen | florian_kc: I bet the two toolbars can be merged :) |
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| 16:18.59 | florian_kc | koen: that's true... |
| 16:19.00 | _law_ | hi |
| 16:19.02 | _law_ | hi koen |
| 16:19.12 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
| 16:19.15 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 16:19.20 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
| 16:19.45 | _law_ | koen why is the ozfam feed newer than dev? |
| 16:20.01 | koen | _law_: because .dev was broken, so I couldn't test the builds |
| 16:20.21 | _law_ | koen: a okay will you change this later? |
| 16:20.29 | koen | yes |
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| 16:21.03 | florian_kc | reenoo: good evening |
| 16:21.36 | reenoo | afternoon ;) |
| 16:21.41 | reenoo | moin florian_kc |
| 16:21.47 | _law_ | koen: nice |
| 16:22.20 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 16:23.05 | florian_kc | reenoo: well we should have ugt here, so just say "good morning" ;-) |
| 16:29.58 | florian_kc | hmm... is Mercurial stable? |
| 16:31.26 | poli | koen: I see evince in x11 but I can't find it with a ipkg install evince (x11 feed is configured), perhaps not yet in Packages.gz? |
| 16:32.10 | koen | poli: it is in Packages |
| 16:32.26 | poli | Inflating http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/Packages.gz |
| 16:32.37 | poli | Cannot find package evince. |
| 16:32.43 | koen | [koen@h7 x11]$ zcat Packages.gz | grep evincePackage: evince |
| 16:33.12 | poli | Any ideas, then? :) |
| 16:33.30 | poli | ipkg root@caroline:/var/tmp# ipkg list > list |
| 16:33.31 | poli | root@caroline:/var/tmp# grep evince list |
| 16:33.31 | poli | root@caroline:/var/tmp# |
| 16:33.58 | koen | trying it on my h5550 |
| 16:34.41 | koen | poli: I get this: http://pastebin.com/491898 |
| 16:37.46 | poli | koen: Packages.gz and Packages have different contents. |
| 16:38.03 | poli | koen: It is listed in Packages but not in Packages.gz |
| 16:38.25 | koen | que? |
| 16:38.35 | koen | I just checked Pacakges.gz |
| 16:39.05 | poli | koen: I just opened the file and... no evince there... my feed is src/gz |
| 16:39.16 | poli | koen: let me try the non-compressed one |
| 16:39.21 | poli | koen: just src I suppose? |
| 16:40.11 | koen | yes |
| 16:43.10 | poli | root@caroline:/etc/ipkg# ipkg install evince |
| 16:43.11 | poli | Installing evince (0.3.2-r1) to root... |
| 16:43.11 | poli | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/evince_0.3.2-r1_arm.ipk |
| 16:43.25 | poli | koen: Packages and Packages.gz in x11 are definately different. |
| 16:44.07 | poli | Oh... it seemed so easy this time... ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for evince: |
| 16:44.08 | florian_kc | ibot: seen fng_sma |
| 16:44.15 | ibot | fng_sma <n=martin@D887a.d.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 1d 2m 34s ago, saying: 'bye'. |
| 16:44.16 | koen | [koen@h7 x11]$ zcat Packages.gz > P ; diff -Nurd Packages P[koen@h7 x11]$ |
| 16:44.19 | koen | diff returns nothing |
| 16:44.32 | koen | ipkg is probably caching stuff when it shouldn't |
| 16:45.13 | poli | koen: I just downloaded it in epiphany... I might have some uknown caching proxy in the way, but I have never ever noticed until now. |
| 16:46.08 | poli | koen: let me download it from another network and make sure |
| 16:50.35 | poli | koen: holly cow! I am getting a cached copy when I download it (3 different clients, one being a debian wget), but I have no idea where the cache could be. Sorry to take your time. |
| 16:52.45 | koen | poli: np, the change of making a mistake when bulding feeds is pretty big |
| 16:53.18 | koen | florian_kc: gpe-contacts seems to startup a lot faster |
| 16:54.54 | florian_kc | koen: hmm thats interesting, did we miss a version in oe? |
| 16:56.11 | koen | I think it's because the window is 'ready' when it's displayed |
| 16:56.33 | koen | i.e. the database is loaded before building the gui |
| 16:56.41 | koen | could be my imagination |
| 16:57.11 | florian_kc | koen: with some luck i have two devices for a direct comparison here. |
| 17:00.34 | koen | I only have a RC1 h5550 and a -unstable h2210 to compare |
| 17:00.44 | koen | which is gtk 2.6 vs gtk 2.8 as well |
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| 17:16.45 | poli | koen|food: Ok, that I double checked (but anyway forgive me if I am wrong) there seems to be no machine/ipaq-pxa270/Packages file (but the .gz one is right there) |
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| 17:45.28 | Philippe | hello peeps |
| 17:45.47 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 17:46.20 | poli | Is there some place where I can set the system timezone? Anbd I just installed timezones-America but I can't find the data on GPE set time. Any ideas? |
| 17:46.23 | Philippe | hi florian_kc |
| 17:49.19 | poli | ipkg upgrade just scrambled my login screen :( |
| 17:50.03 | florian_kc | poli: The frontend in GPE doesn't support this at the moment... you should be able to set a timezone from the list in the tool which matches your local one. |
| 17:50.37 | poli | florian_kc: I am currently in UTC-2 but I can't find one that matches it. |
| 17:51.29 | poli | Any ideas on why my login screen got completely scrambled? Is there some way to fix that? |
| 17:52.45 | florian_kc | poli: EST i think. |
| 17:52.54 | florian_kc | eh |
| 17:52.58 | florian_kc | no |
| 17:53.00 | florian_kc | wait |
| 17:53.21 | poli | florian_kc: Seems like I will have to reflash to check :( |
| 17:53.31 | florian_kc | EET |
| 17:54.02 | florian_kc | poli: oops no... how does it look like? what did you before this? |
| 17:55.02 | poli | florian_kc: Seems like a monitor out of sync, a ipkg upgrade and then a timezone change and then logoff |
| 17:55.34 | pb__ | crumbs, that is unfortunate. |
| 17:55.43 | pb__ | must be some kind of xserver malfunction. What platform are you on? |
| 17:55.54 | poli | pxa270 |
| 17:56.04 | poli | xserver was upgraded |
| 17:56.24 | pb__ | which particular pxa270 machine? |
| 17:56.30 | poli | 4700 |
| 17:56.50 | pb__ | okay |
| 17:57.00 | pb__ | 4700 doesn't actually use pxa270 graphics, does it? I thought video was offboard on those. |
| 17:59.25 | poli | pb__: I was trying to get that information from the wiki, but seems like strange things are happening to my net today and I can't hh frontpage. |
| 17:59.36 | poli | But I think you are right. |
| 18:00.03 | pb__ | iirc, there's some kind of ATI video chip in there. I don't think xserver knows how to talk to it, though. |
| 18:00.27 | pb__ | Did you try rebooting to see if that helps? |
| 18:00.44 | poli | pb__: That was what I had in memory, too. But it was working just before the upgrade. Yes, tried reboot already. |
| 18:02.41 | poli | pb__: the splash screen is ust fine, but when the server comes up, seems like a CRT monitor out of sync rate. |
| 18:04.25 | pb__ | I guess the xserver must be setting the screen to some crazy resolution. |
| 18:04.41 | pb__ | Do you have the ability to log in over serial or the network? If so, try running "fbset" and see what mode it thinks it's in.# |
| 18:05.20 | poli | pb__: Yes, network is configured just fine. Let me try that. |
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| 18:07.21 | poli | pb__: http://pastebin.com/492052 |
| 18:07.38 | poli | Screen resolution seems right, but I can't really say if syncs are correct. |
| 18:08.31 | poli | Is that a 312MHz sync?! |
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| 18:15.40 | florian_kc | koen: the title font in your gpe-package screenshot looks strange. |
| 18:15.51 | koen | it does |
| 18:15.53 | koen | no idea why |
| 18:17.33 | florian_kc | zecke: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25500.png |
| 18:17.42 | florian_kc | zecke: not that many as before... but still there. |
| 18:17.57 | poli | fbset is returning # D: 250000.000 MHz, H: 312500.000 kHz, V: 595238.095 Hz this can't be right, can it? |
| 18:18.34 | zecke | hmm weird |
| 18:18.40 | florian_kc | 250000.000 MHz sounds a little bit much... |
| 18:18.55 | poli | 250 GHz?! |
| 18:19.18 | poli | I have never heard of something operating on such frequencies. :) |
| 18:19.25 | koen | I think I know why :) |
| 18:19.25 | florian_kc | zecke: Thats better: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25915.png |
| 18:19.44 | poli | koen: please enlight me, oh great master! |
| 18:20.09 | zecke | okay that really looks like a memory issue |
| 18:20.25 | zecke | florian_kc: no promise but I will try hard to look into it |
| 18:20.37 | zecke | need to do some bitbake work now though |
| 18:21.09 | florian_kc | zecke: okay cool... i know it worked some time ago. i *think* this started with the new bootloader... |
| 18:22.12 | poli | koen: Ok, that I double checked (but anyway forgive me if I |
| 18:22.13 | poli | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.13 | poli | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.25 | koen | poli: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/file.psp?id=9d3b3a97483bfbf210eb5b8ab0d8aae00bc86a04&path=packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive/kmode.patch |
| 18:22.53 | koen | the zeros in that file are wrong, so the xserver makes them up |
| 18:24.13 | koen | poli: the ipaq-pxa270 directory now has both files |
| 18:24.42 | poli | koen: Thanks :) |
| 18:24.51 | Philippe | koen, I have a new release of gpe-timesheet (0.20). It fixes the logging problem and some other issues. |
| 18:26.18 | Philippe | koen, is monotone v0.24 good enough to get monotone access? |
| 18:26.50 | koen | Philippe: in theory any version > 0.20 will do, but the snapshots need 0.24 |
| 18:27.06 | florian_kc | Philippe: oh did you get my botmail? |
| 18:27.25 | pb__ | poli: heh, yes, those timing numbers do seem a bit fast |
| 18:27.29 | Philippe | florian_kc, no? Or should I query ibot for that? |
| 18:27.42 | pb__ | 595kHz refresh is surely too much. |
| 18:28.11 | florian_kc | Philippe: hrm... maybe, or maybe i forgot.... |
| 18:28.12 | Philippe | ~botmail |
| 18:28.53 | Philippe | florian_kc, what was it about? |
| 18:29.45 | koen | 19:29 < CIA-4> koen org.oe.dev * r34267e55... /packages/gpe-timesheet/gpe-timesheet_0.20.bb: gpe-timesheet: add 0.20 |
| 18:30.30 | Philippe | koen : thanks! A question before I generate that key. Is my handhelds.org e-mail okay too or do I need an openembedded.org one? |
| 18:30.51 | pb__ | later all |
| 18:30.56 | florian_kc | Philippe: I found a logical bug in gpe-timesheet. you can easily reproduce if you create a task, clock in and out and repeat this step. after this create journals for both. |
| 18:31.02 | koen | Philippe: just follow http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MonotonePhraseBook :) |
| 18:31.38 | Philippe | koen, that is what I am doing. I just wonder if I need to use openembedded,org or not :-) |
| 18:31.38 | koen | (so yes, <name>@openembedded.org) |
| 18:31.43 | florian_kc | Philippe: i made some improvements here but its not finished by now, but i can try to do this later. |
| 18:32.26 | florian_kc | koen: can i update a checked out repository from a new database? |
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| 18:33.19 | koen | florian_kc: I think you can, but make sure 'monotone head' give the correct head |
| 18:34.09 | florian_kc | i'll try asasp... |
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| 18:48.47 | Philippe | damn florian is right.... |
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| 18:58.30 | pb_ | I hate it when florian is right. |
| 18:58.43 | koen | Philippe: don't forget to make a hardcopy of the keypair inside ~/.monotone/keys |
| 19:06.57 | Philippe | koen, ok thanks |
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| 19:11.40 | florian | re |
| 19:12.12 | pb_ | florian: wb |
| 19:29.02 | pb_ | Next Step: [...] -How to lock down svn to prevent the evil GPE guys to mess with Opie. |
| 19:29.03 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:29.28 | pb_ | zecke|food: your puny efforts at lockdown will be futile |
| 19:29.59 | zecke|food | pb_: these GPE folks are everywhere |
| 19:30.15 | florian | pb_: heh, uh? |
| 19:30.28 | zecke|food | florian: I have asked for doing a svn testdrive on handhelds.org |
| 19:30.44 | zecke|food | florian: and one question will be how to organise the tree's |
| 19:30.54 | florian | ah okay... |
| 19:30.54 | zecke|food | florian: one repo for each project |
| 19:31.04 | zecke|food | florian: one repo for all projects with ACL |
| 19:32.26 | Philippe | and synchronize it on my different machines (with machine branching) |
| 19:33.25 | florian | Philippe: heh... good idea, i ran into this issue too... and didn't find a good solution so far. |
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| 19:36.46 | florian | i wonder if merging small parts works properly with it. |
| 19:47.24 | florian | Philippe: did you see the problem? |
| 19:55.18 | koen | 19:48 < Philippe> damn florian is right.... |
| 19:56.25 | florian | okay :-) |
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| 20:00.38 | hrhr | florian: may I ask you? |
| 20:01.30 | florian | hrhr: of course |
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| 20:02.33 | hrhr | i have mmounted mmc card on /media/mmc1 .... when i try change directory in gpe-filemanager to /media/mmc1 it crushed |
| 20:05.09 | hrhr | and i have one pbig problem...when i run evince it writs me strange error |
| 20:05.59 | florian | hmm.. |
| 20:06.05 | hrhr | Failed to activate configuration server: The service org.gnome.GConf was not foundin the activation entr list |
| 20:06.09 | hrhr | .. |
| 20:06.17 | florian | aha |
| 20:06.31 | florian | that might be related... both use gconf. |
| 20:06.47 | hrhr | and what? |
| 20:07.06 | florian | koen: do i remember correctly that i saw some gconf-dbus related checkin? |
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| 20:09.08 | koen | florian: yes |
| 20:09.27 | koen | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/gconf-dbus_0.0cvs20051212-r9_arm.ipk |
| 20:09.46 | florian | hrhr: install this :-) |
| 20:10.01 | hrhr | ok i try... |
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| 20:21.12 | rob_w | florian, it did work now with minicom ... the problem was that the device was not answering .. after a reset it worked |
| 20:21.52 | florian | rob_w: ah cool.. maybe confused by a wrong serial setting os some init string before you configured it, |
| 20:22.48 | rob_w | to me it seemed as win hyperterminal did not reset device .. anyway .. that now was a important meeting |
| 20:23.13 | rob_w | i will be working for them most probably and use ... tadatatdaaa oe |
| 20:23.32 | florian | rob_w: iirc it doesn't sen default init strings. |
| 20:24.00 | florian | rob_w: define "them" |
| 20:24.12 | rob_w | well , |
| 20:24.48 | florian | hmm.. "win" -> Microsoft! ;-) |
| 20:24.55 | rob_w | a engineering office local to me .. doing industrial controller boards and units .. now wanting bigger units with screen `s |
| 20:25.11 | florian | rob_w: sounds pretty good. |
| 20:25.39 | rob_w | yeah i can learn more electrics at them and i show them oe and its mighty power ! |
| 20:25.51 | hrhr | anybody cnow free dns server which can resolve familiar.handhelds.org? |
| 20:25.57 | hrhr | *know |
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| 20:26.37 | florian | hrhr: 141.1.1.1 maybe |
| 20:26.54 | koen|770 | ~nslookup familiar.handhelds.org |
| 20:27.46 | hrhr | thx |
| 20:29.20 | hrhr | root@ipaq-pxa270:/etc/ipkg# ipkg install gconf-dbus |
| 20:29.21 | hrhr | Upgrading gconf-dbus on root from 0.0cvs20051212-r8 to 0.0cvs20051212-r9... |
| 20:29.21 | hrhr | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.3/feed/x11/gconf-dbus_0.0cvs20051212-r9_arm.ipk |
| 20:29.24 | hrhr | Adding satisfier for greedy dependence: gconf-dbus-locale-ru |
| 20:29.26 | hrhr | Not installing gconf-dbus-locale-ru (0.0cvs20051212-r8) on root -- already installed. |
| 20:29.29 | hrhr | Nothing to be done |
| 20:29.32 | hrhr | An error ocurred, return value: 1. |
| 20:31.38 | Philippe | florian, I indeed saw the problem |
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| 20:43.27 | hrhr_ | florian: after install gconf-dbus i waven't problem with evince but i have problem with gpe-filemanager |
| 20:44.07 | rob_w | where is simple ftp ? what bb file do i need to build |
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| 20:58.16 | florian | hrhr: okay... do you have file names with cyrillic chars in the directory you change to? |
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| 21:02.13 | florian | hi Cwiiis |
| 21:02.26 | Cwiiis | Hey florian |
| 21:03.33 | reenoo | hey Cwiiis |
| 21:04.23 | Cwiiis | Hi reenoo, everyone else :) |
| 21:05.11 | hrhr | hi Cwiiis =/ |
| 21:14.01 | hrhr | koen: whot i need for read russian letters in abiword? |
| 21:14.08 | hrhr | maybe some charmaps? |
| 21:16.14 | hrhr | i can't both enter and read cyrillic |
| 21:17.13 | hrhr | koen: are you compile abiword with locales or no? |
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| 21:23.02 | hrhr | florian: are you here? |
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| 21:23.42 | florian | hrhr: yes |
| 21:24.16 | hrhr | do you know about locales in abiword? |
| 21:24.27 | hrhr | or it need charmaps |
| 21:24.33 | hrhr | or something else |
| 21:25.25 | hrhr | fuck....sorry |
| 21:25.27 | hrhr | all fine |
| 21:25.56 | florian | hmm no idea, locale packages maybe... but i guess entering text should work without. |
| 21:26.57 | hrhr | florian: thx...all ok....i only have'nt fonts... |
| 21:27.58 | florian | ah okay |
| 21:29.55 | molivier | hi all |
| 21:38.52 | rob_w | bootstrap-image should bring me a simple image , right ? |
| 21:43.00 | florian | hi molivier |
| 21:43.06 | florian | rob_w: right |
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| 21:48.09 | rob_w | dietXlib fails on mips .. buuhuu |
| 21:48.29 | hrhr | florian: gpe-filemanager crashed when i try chdir to any mounted card |
| 21:49.46 | florian | hrhr: oh nasty |
| 21:50.15 | rob_w | i meant diet-X11 |
| 21:50.45 | florian | rob_w: even more |
| 21:51.13 | rob_w | the cvs one does .. trying the non cvs |
| 21:51.41 | rob_w | i ve one next to me |
| 21:52.00 | rob_w | nice small board , with a 6 " lcd touch attached to it |
| 21:52.54 | florian | sounds good :-) |
| 21:55.16 | hrhr | anybody know something about problems with cf cards? |
| 21:55.40 | hrhr | my cf card mounting and unmounting many times in minute |
| 21:57.15 | florian | huh |
| 21:57.20 | hrhr | and kernel show message : hda:hda1 |
| 21:57.25 | hrhr | in dmesg |
| 21:57.41 | florian | thats a really strange one. |
| 21:58.13 | florian | hrhr: does logread give any clue |
| 21:58.53 | rob_w | florian, do you remeber any device in oe which is mips based and used to have gpe ? so X11 used ? |
| 21:59.24 | hrhr | florian: in logs only hda:hda1.........many-many times |
| 22:00.46 | florian | rob_w: not offhand... let me see |
| 22:01.12 | rob_w | hrhr, you could simulate this by plugging /unplugging your cards in that speed ,, so maybe the card or reader is broken and turn on the deivce looses it and turns it on again |
| 22:02.09 | hrhr | no, its not broken....when i flash old opie-starterkit i have normal works of my cf |
| 22:03.13 | florian | rob_w: i fear we don't have one. but the is x11 on mips and mipsel, so it must be possible. |
| 22:04.04 | florian | hrhr: I think thats worth a mail to the ipaq mailinglist... |
| 22:05.22 | rob_w | florian, where do you see X11 on mips ? |
| 22:06.00 | florian | rob_w: My O2 :-) |
| 22:06.18 | rob_w | ah ok , thought in some bb file |
| 22:07.01 | florian | And on my Indy... in theory on the Octane as well, but thats highly experimental. |
| 22:07.02 | hrhr | thx all espesially florian...........night |
| 22:07.21 | rob_w | hmm lets see if X11 compiles :-) |
| 22:14.49 | rob_w | what is xfce again ? |
| 22:15.06 | koen|770 | something like gnome |
| 22:15.29 | rob_w | so also diet-X11 |
| 22:15.55 | koen|770 | it can/work with diet-x11, yes |
| 22:16.12 | rob_w | hehe |
| 22:17.06 | shiyee | is libgpewidget not compiling with automake-1.9 something to use time on? |
| 22:18.55 | pb_ | I guess. It builds fine with 1.9.6 for me. |
| 22:19.12 | shiyee | hmm... i will poke some more then... |
| 22:19.16 | florian | Philippe: Fixed that gpe-timesheet bug, playing with it some more... |
| 22:19.17 | pb_ | not sure exactly what florian uses, but I think it's some similar version |
| 22:19.31 | florian | yep |
| 22:21.01 | shiyee | grr, works perfectly now :-) |
| 22:21.18 | shiyee | ~lart autofoo |
| 22:23.22 | Philippe | florian, great :-) |
| 22:30.45 | pb_ | florian: gpe-login 0.84 is released, fwiw |
| 22:32.12 | rob_w | looks like my types.h problem is a general one !! i get this on various paclages .. |
| 22:32.29 | pb_ | that is very sad |
| 22:34.25 | rob_w | no .. as it looks so general , solving it will bring me solution on all of them ;-) |
| 22:34.44 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:37.29 | rob_w | cu |
| 22:38.07 | florian | pb_: great |
| 22:38.46 | pb_ | yay |
| 22:39.08 | Philippe | florian, koen will love that :-) |
| 22:40.54 | florian | heh... mallum hates me for that. |
| 22:42.09 | florian | I'd like to be able to live without any wm decoration. |
| 22:44.38 | pb_ | right |
| 22:53.10 | florian | Oh... my night ends in seven hours. |
| 22:53.16 | florian | good night! |
| 22:54.28 | florian | Philippe: canges are in... |
| 23:03.32 | pb_ | gotta get up early in the morning to have the brakes fixed on my car |
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| 23:12.00 | reenoo | 'night pb_ |
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