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| 01:44.07 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 01:49.14 | Russ | is there a button you can hold down while booting to restart calibration? |
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| 08:47.46 | pb_ | Russ: depending on the version, you should be able to restart calibration by either pressing the touchscreen for a long time, or by pushing the "record" button. |
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| 11:18.59 | pb_ | hi zap |
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| 11:23.22 | pb_ | hail zecke |
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| 12:23.41 | bedboi | Hi all |
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| 12:35.20 | reenoo | morning |
| 12:39.54 | Philippe | hey people |
| 12:40.30 | bedboi | Happy new year |
| 12:40.30 | reenoo | salut Philippe |
| 12:47.26 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 12:47.51 | reenoo | happy new year, bedboi |
| 12:47.54 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 12:57.25 | Philippe | Bonne annee reenoo |
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| 13:17.21 | florian | good morning |
| 13:18.29 | reenoo | Bonne annee, Philippe |
| 13:19.44 | Philippe | thanks |
| 13:19.47 | reenoo | moin florian. und ein frohes neues wuensche ich. |
| 13:20.13 | florian | reenoo: danke! dir auch! |
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| 13:23.21 | pb_ | florian: good morning! |
| 13:24.00 | bedboi | pb_: happy new year |
| 13:25.41 | *** topic/#gpe by florian -> The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | Happy new year #gpe! |
| 13:27.03 | pb_ | bedboi: happy new year to you also |
| 13:27.47 | florian | s/time/almost time |
| 13:27.54 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:29.16 | florian | I think we maybe should ship some of the updated pim bits. |
| 13:31.00 | Philippe | what's the timeframe? |
| 13:31.16 | pb_ | florian: yeah, good idea |
| 13:31.23 | florian | Philippe: "when its ready" :-) |
| 13:32.09 | florian | pb_: i'll make new releases of gpe-contacts and gpe-calendar... |
| 13:32.14 | pb_ | excellent |
| 13:32.23 | pb_ | btw, I just assigned a gpe-conf bug to you |
| 13:33.24 | florian | i also have a pile of updates for oe but still can't check them in. |
| 13:33.37 | pb_ | should fix the bugzilla database to do that automatically, I guess, rather than assigning all these bugs to oe@handhelds.org by default |
| 13:33.51 | pb_ | oh dear, are the monotone servers still broken? |
| 13:34.42 | pb_ | ibot, seen monotone-master mickeyl? |
| 13:35.20 | ibot | i haven't seen 'monotone-master mickeyl', pb_ |
| 13:35.20 | florian | pb_: yeah... it seems to pick the maintainer information in the packages only. |
| 13:36.03 | florian | hmm well ewi gives me an error message and vanille.de a connection re |
| 13:36.06 | florian | fused |
| 13:36.16 | pb_ | that can't be good |
| 13:36.41 | reenoo | actually, there are all sorts of packages with bogus maintainer fields in OE |
| 13:36.51 | florian | indeed |
| 13:37.18 | pb_ | florian: yeah, there's a script that pulls the metadata out of the Packages file and stuffs it into the sql database. |
| 13:37.56 | pb_ | reenoo: yeah, very true |
| 13:37.59 | florian | pb_: hmm right, we maybe should override this data somtimes :-) |
| 13:38.05 | reenoo | I don't know about hh.org bugzilla, but at least bug reports sent via private mail will end up in /dev/null |
| 13:38.30 | bedboi | is the new gpe image working well? |
| 13:39.38 | pb_ | florian: yeah, probably wouldn't be too hard. fwiw, the script is in tools/packman. |
| 13:44.11 | reenoo | florian: the monotone servers apparently need to be restarted regularly. I haven't been able to check stuff in right away for quite a while. |
| 13:44.29 | florian | ~lart monotone |
| 13:45.46 | reenoo | well. would be a matter of installing a simple watchdog script that's run by cron every 30 minutes or something, I guess. |
| 13:56.44 | pb_ | good plan |
| 13:59.22 | florian | done |
| 14:00.14 | pb_ | cool. now we just need to wait for them to sober up and check their email. |
| 14:07.31 | florian | lets do something good in the meantime :-) |
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| 14:18.45 | florian | bbl |
| 14:30.50 | bedboi | doh |
| 14:31.06 | bedboi | i'm really in trouble |
| 14:31.13 | bedboi | with the h5455 connector |
| 14:31.20 | bedboi | i even can't re-flash it |
| 14:31.20 | bedboi | :( |
| 14:31.29 | bedboi | serial port doesn't work :(( |
| 14:35.51 | bedboi | anyone ever heard of such problems? |
| 14:48.08 | bedboi | can anyone see this webpage with gpe-minibrowser? |
| 14:48.13 | bedboi | http://mochikit.com/examples/rounded_corners/index.html |
| 14:48.22 | bedboi | i would like to know if you see rounded corners |
| 14:50.34 | Philippe | bedboi, you can see rounded corners unfortunately the cut-off part is black |
| 14:52.10 | bedboi | hmmm |
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| 15:05.34 | florian | re |
| 15:05.40 | bedboi | hi florian |
| 15:59.55 | pb_ | florian: wb |
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| 16:46.10 | sc | I'm new to GPE, I installed familiar 0.8.2 on my ipaq h3630, sometimes when I am writing it switch off (suspend), it this a known issue or I need to do something like install 0.7.2 that is suggested for lowmen ipaqs? |
| 16:58.27 | pb_ | florian: I checked in some changes to gpe-what that you might like to look at. |
| 17:05.15 | pb_ | sc: maybe ipaq-sleep thinks you have flat battery. what does /proc/asic/battery say? |
| 17:06.26 | sc | pb_: I'm going to check |
| 17:07.56 | Russ | anyone know which package libgconf.so.4 comes from? |
| 17:08.08 | pb_ | probably libgconf4 |
| 17:08.28 | Russ | hmm...that isn't in koen's repository |
| 17:09.31 | Russ | nor in the familiar unstable feed |
| 17:09.58 | pb_ | that is unfortunate |
| 17:10.04 | florian | pb_: okay... let me see |
| 17:10.08 | pb_ | there's also a gconf-dbus package, but that one contains libgconf-2.so.4 |
| 17:10.20 | pb_ | maybe the old libgconf.so.4 has been removed from the distribution |
| 17:10.26 | sc | pb_: I don't have /proc/asic/battery! |
| 17:10.34 | Russ | ya, gpe-mini-browser 0.18 is linked against it |
| 17:10.36 | pb_ | sc: oh, sorry, I misread your model number |
| 17:10.42 | pb_ | sc: try /proc/hal/battery instead |
| 17:10.58 | Russ | maybe it is libgconf-2.so.4, but I already have the gconf-dbus package |
| 17:11.17 | pb_ | florian: it doesn't quite work right yet; maybe you can see what I am doing wrong |
| 17:11.38 | sc | pb_: NP, the file says battery percentege is 40% |
| 17:11.49 | sc | pb_: life is 120 |
| 17:11.50 | pb_ | mm, that should be fine |
| 17:12.03 | pb_ | iirc, ipaq-sleep only gets twitchy when the lifetime drops to ten minutes or so |
| 17:12.29 | Russ | ya, its looking for libgconf-2.so.4 |
| 17:12.38 | pb_ | oh, weird |
| 17:12.49 | pb_ | does "ipkg files gconf-dbus" think the file should be installed? |
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| 17:14.24 | Russ | /etc/X11/Xsession.d/69gconfd-dbus |
| 17:14.25 | Russ | /usr/bin/gconf-merge-tree |
| 17:14.25 | Russ | /usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-oldxml.so |
| 17:14.25 | Russ | /usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so |
| 17:14.26 | Russ | /usr/share/dbus-1.0/services/gconf.service |
| 17:14.36 | florian | pb_: i see... pretty cool. |
| 17:15.05 | pb_ | florian: for some reason, some pixels seem to be missing from the border on the top left |
| 17:15.07 | pb_ | at least on my laptop |
| 17:15.28 | pb_ | I guess I must have screwed up the shape calculation somehow |
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| 17:16.39 | pb_ | Russ: that's all? |
| 17:16.45 | Russ | yup |
| 17:16.56 | Russ | hmm |
| 17:17.02 | Russ | I think the package is broken |
| 17:17.03 | pb_ | oh dear, it should have loads more files than that |
| 17:17.08 | pb_ | yeah, it seems |
| 17:17.10 | Russ | Size: 57706 |
| 17:17.10 | florian | pb_: hmm here it looks like there are some pixels missing in the top left border but some too many in the bottom right. |
| 17:17.25 | pb_ | florian: oh, that might explain it |
| 17:17.27 | bedboi | pb_: ever heard of power/serial connector issues? |
| 17:17.31 | Russ | whereas the armv5te version has Size: 167192 |
| 17:17.35 | bedboi | on ipaq h54xx |
| 17:17.50 | pb_ | florian: does it help if you change the "0,0" to "1,1" in the gtk_shape_combine_mask call? |
| 17:18.04 | pb_ | sometimes gtk seems to have this weird one-pixel offset, for reasons I haven't been able to figure out |
| 17:18.12 | pb_ | iirc, gpe-bluetooth also suffers from this |
| 17:18.19 | pb_ | bedboi: what sort of issues? |
| 17:18.33 | bedboi | pb_: it seems it is faulty |
| 17:18.49 | pb_ | Russ: that is suspicious |
| 17:19.03 | pb_ | I guess you should complain to whoever built the packages |
| 17:19.07 | bedboi | pb_: i have to put the ipaq in some sort of kamasutra positions in order to charge it |
| 17:19.15 | pb_ | bedboi: heh, oh dear |
| 17:19.15 | bedboi | and serial doesn't work |
| 17:19.26 | pb_ | bedboi: maybe you have some broken solder joints on the connector board |
| 17:19.40 | bedboi | yep, that's what i think. i'll open it |
| 17:19.41 | pb_ | or maybe your connector is just destroyed and must be replaced. |
| 17:19.50 | bedboi | eheh |
| 17:19.52 | pb_ | you can buy the connector board as a spare part from foxconn |
| 17:20.27 | bedboi | hmm |
| 17:20.30 | bedboi | ok |
| 17:20.35 | bedboi | i'll try to open it |
| 17:20.40 | pb_ | good plan |
| 17:20.42 | florian | pb_: no... it gets worse. but -1,-1 is not 100% correct too... |
| 17:22.02 | pb_ | ah, that is strange |
| 17:22.21 | pb_ | I'm not sure that setting negative values in there will work. |
| 17:22.24 | florian | hi lamikr |
| 17:22.43 | lamikr | hi florian |
| 17:23.15 | florian | pb_: it looks different at least.... |
| 17:24.14 | pb_ | hmm |
| 17:26.02 | florian | for some reason the arcs don't match |
| 17:26.10 | pb_ | florian: ah, I see from my #oe window that you were not successful in checking in your changes there. :-( |
| 17:26.41 | pb_ | florian: mm, yeah. maybe there is some strange effect caused by asking for a filled arc |
| 17:26.58 | pb_ | let me try adding both filled and non-filled versions to the shape |
| 17:28.01 | pb_ | ah, yeah, that looks a bit better |
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| 17:29.42 | pb_ | I checked that change in. want to give it a go and see how it works for you? |
| 17:31.45 | bedboi | pb_: wow, i think that soldering the connector will be a real pita |
| 17:32.02 | pb_ | bedboi: ah, oh dear |
| 17:32.05 | bedboi | and btw the connector board is really expensive |
| 17:32.12 | pb_ | bedboi: did you identify the fault? |
| 17:32.19 | bedboi | nope |
| 17:32.28 | bedboi | i don't have tools to open it here |
| 17:32.40 | pb_ | oh, right, you're looking at the pictures on the web? |
| 17:32.46 | bedboi | yep |
| 17:32.49 | bedboi | that's scary |
| 17:32.49 | bedboi | :) |
| 17:32.51 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:33.21 | bedboi | i can't even count all the pins on the zoomed image :) |
| 17:33.46 | bedboi | i'll ask some hardware guru at Politechnic |
| 17:35.00 | bedboi | i found a screwdriver |
| 17:36.01 | florian | pb_: yes... i remember some wrong nslu bits in the database. koen told me to use a new version of monotone and how to convert the database... and now noone seems know the error message or how to find out what might be wrong with my database. |
| 17:36.32 | pb_ | florian: that does sound pretty bad |
| 17:38.24 | florian | pb_: i'm pretty much fed up fighting the scms oe people like to use. there are that many important things to do. |
| 17:38.42 | pb_ | yeah, me too |
| 17:38.43 | bedboi | i have 6 screws on my table |
| 17:39.18 | bedboi | is there some hidden one? |
| 17:39.19 | pb_ | florian: I gave up trying to check stuff into oe months ago; working with monotone was just too painful |
| 17:39.32 | pb_ | bedboi: nope, I think just the six |
| 17:40.14 | florian | if i had a little bit more time i'd just start a branch using a different scm. |
| 17:40.53 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:45.03 | pb_ | bedboi: after you've removed the screws, it should just be a question of releasing the plastic clips that hold the two halves of the case together. easiest way to do that is to gently pry them apart with a fingernail, starting just above the record button and working down that side and then the other. |
| 17:45.27 | pb_ | btw, don't forget to remove the stylus and mmc card, otherwise they will get jammed. I always used to make that mistake. |
| 17:46.02 | bedboi | yep |
| 17:46.14 | bedboi | btw i'll try later |
| 17:46.16 | florian | pb_: the top left area is good now... but i have some yellow pixels outside of the border in the remaining three. |
| 17:47.09 | pb_ | florian: try changing "x1 = width - 1" to "x1 = width - 2" |
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| 17:49.05 | pb_ | (just in handle_size_allocate; leave the other function alone) |
| 17:51.13 | florian | pb_: better... |
| 17:52.13 | florian | ah... i think i see whats wrong now |
| 17:52.48 | florian | pb_: yes.. reducing height too it is perfect. |
| 17:53.02 | pb_ | excellent |
| 17:53.07 | pb_ | thanks |
| 17:58.00 | pb_ | I guess I could make a new release of that now, unless you have any other changes planned. |
| 18:00.10 | florian | hmm okay :-) |
| 18:02.23 | pb_ | done! |
| 18:03.24 | florian | okay :-) |
| 18:04.08 | pb_ | :-) |
| 18:23.05 | florian | the cvs checkin section at hh.org isn't what i'd call perfect... |
| 18:24.13 | pb_ | mm, no |
| 18:25.38 | pb_ | I'm a bit reluctant to spend any time trying to fix it, though, since George keeps threatening to rewrite the whole website |
| 18:30.05 | florian | oh okay :-) |
| 18:35.36 | florian | So we have a new gpe-contacts release. |
| 18:37.41 | pb_ | rock |
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| 19:28.03 | Russ | ...where is koen... |
| 19:34.25 | pb_ | florian: I just tried to build gpe-calendar, but... was unsuccessful. It seems I lack some kind of hildon files. |
| 19:34.35 | pb_ | configure.ac:80: required file `hildon/com.nokia.gpe-calendar.service.in' not found |
| 19:34.35 | pb_ | configure.ac:80: required file `hildon/gpe-calendar.desktop.in.in' not found |
| 19:34.41 | pb_ | Do you know anything about these? |
| 19:35.03 | pb_ | oh, wait, no, just stupid CVS. |
| 19:35.58 | pb_ | that's better |
| 19:37.06 | florian | :-) |
| 19:37.48 | florian | pb_: you need the new libeventdb. |
| 19:37.57 | pb_ | okay |
| 19:38.00 | pb_ | thanks for the warning |
| 19:38.34 | pb_ | I guess it'd be a neat idea to add a version requirement to the libeventdb check in configure.ac |
| 19:39.13 | florian | After supper i maybe should try my help-enabled gtk... |
| 19:39.20 | florian | pb_: thats a good idea |
| 19:40.21 | pb_ | florian: ah, excellent. as you will have seen from the deluge of emails in your inbox, I am hoping that this gtk help patch can go into koen's familiar 0.8.3-rc1 build. |
| 19:41.41 | florian | pb_: yes i just found them... my mua are a little bit simple an so the mails end up an a wrong dir. |
| 19:42.02 | pb_ | ah, whoops |
| 19:42.22 | pb_ | oh dear, I have automake trouble with libeventdb |
| 19:42.25 | pb_ | doc/gtk-doc.make:8: GTKDOC_CC was already defined in condition TRUE, which includes condition GTK_DOC_USE_LIBTOOL ... |
| 19:42.25 | pb_ | doc/Makefile.am:53: `doc/gtk-doc.make' included from here |
| 19:42.30 | pb_ | I guess I can just delete the duplicated definitions. |
| 19:43.17 | florian | hm yes, iirc thats caused by conflicting versions of gtk-doc... |
| 19:43.30 | pb_ | ah |
| 19:43.56 | pb_ | maybe we should treat gtk-doc.make like the gpe-*.am files, and have just one copy in the repository that's linked into each place |
| 19:44.41 | florian | hmm yes.. |
| 19:46.36 | pb_ | reenoo: evening |
| 19:48.20 | reenoo | re |
| 19:48.25 | reenoo | evening, pb_ |
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| 19:55.04 | pb_ | evening zecke |
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| 20:51.06 | pb_ | florian: gosh, gpe-calendar has changed quite a lot since i saw it last |
| 20:54.33 | pb_ | I don't think the "current hour" logic in scroll_to() is quite right, though. At this time of day, it scrolls the day view almost entirely off the screen and leaves a large area at the bottom of the window that isn't drawn at all. |
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| 21:21.43 | florian | pb_: thats true, i broke this during some cleanup some days ago. |
| 21:23.07 | pb_ | ah, fair enough |
| 21:23.33 | pb_ | I guess you will un-break it in due course :-) |
| 21:24.14 | florian | right... now that i'm not hungry anymore :-) |
| 21:24.23 | pb_ | hehe |
| 21:24.38 | pb_ | hm, yes, that reminds me that I should eat dinner |
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| 22:49.48 | pb_ | night night |
| 22:50.15 | florian | pb_: good night |
| 22:58.45 | florian | pb_: still there? |
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| 23:18.44 | *** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | Happy new year #gpe! |
| 23:21.44 | Philippe | night all |