| 00:06.09 | flo | hey guys, i installed snes9x and want to open a rom, super mario world |
| 00:07.00 | flo | i get a little message (ntsc...) for a second, then the console is black |
| 00:07.31 | flo | on ESC i can see the output message in xterm: no joystick found |
| 00:07.37 | flo | is that the problem? |
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| 00:44.04 | florian | good night |
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| 08:48.49 | XorA | morning |
| 08:50.17 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:51.00 | koen | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=171888&cid=14313175 |
| 08:52.35 | koen | and of cource http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2696315510.html |
| 08:55.07 | XorA | koen: :-) |
| 08:55.51 | koen | the 'update' in the LD article is that they stopped spelling GPE with a Q |
| 09:13.14 | XorA | ~lart Q |
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| 09:17.20 | Koffern | Hello. I just found the gpe web-page after hearing rumers that one can run GPE on a Palm Lifedrive. Is this correct? |
| 09:18.00 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.07 | XorA | Koffern: I beleive it is possible, but not released work yet |
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| 09:23.49 | XorA | typical low attention span channel hopper |
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| 09:54.27 | koen | XorA: bitbake browser-image ;) |
| 09:56.47 | XorA | koen: just X11 and all thr browsers which load at boot :-) |
| 09:57.04 | koen | Yes!! |
| 09:58.49 | XorA | port mosaic in for old skewl time |
| 10:02.40 | koen | yes! |
| 10:02.48 | koen | I got my h2210 back to booting from SD |
| 10:03.40 | koen | and I've proven that booting to the login screen takes only 14MB of ram |
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| 10:06.19 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 10:06.49 | bedboi | hi there |
| 10:11.05 | XorA | koen: cool |
| 10:11.32 | XorA | Ive got a 16M swap on my SD card at mo |
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| 10:42.13 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:43.32 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 11:43.59 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
| 11:44.45 | florian_kc | dc__: france was looking for you yesterday. Looks like your email address in bugzilla is invalid. |
| 11:46.13 | koen | dc__: http://pastebin.com/474905 |
| 11:47.12 | dc__ | morning |
| 11:56.36 | dc__ | ah |
| 11:56.44 | dc__ | hehe, no bugs for me then :P |
| 11:57.53 | dc__ | he can change it to damien@mongoo.se if needed |
| 12:10.56 | _law_ | hi |
| 12:11.18 | _law_ | oh my matchbox-applet fixes comes into 3.5.4 ? :-) |
| 12:12.05 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
| 12:12.12 | florian_kc | _law_: looks so... |
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| 14:10.21 | koen | _law_: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11490.png |
| 14:12.11 | XorA|lunch | koen: _law_ gotta get me some of that :-) |
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| 14:19.28 | koen | now with fancy shadows: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3540.png |
| 14:19.55 | XorA | koen: :-) |
| 14:29.05 | XorA | its a quiet day around here today |
| 14:29.12 | ArjanS | does composite make the ipaq as slow as it does with a normal pc? |
| 14:29.25 | koen | smaller screen -> less cpu needed |
| 14:29.44 | koen | I can't really notice a speed difference, but I'm sure it's slower |
| 14:29.54 | florian_kc | koen: do we have gstreamer 0.10.0 in oe? |
| 14:30.06 | koen | florian_kc: after you add it ;) |
| 14:30.17 | koen | too much cool stuff, too little time |
| 14:30.20 | ArjanS | can I turn composite on the same way as on the pc? |
| 14:30.36 | koen | settings -> look & feel -> special effects |
| 14:30.36 | florian_kc | koen: i didn't even make to extract my key and replace the database :-( |
| 14:31.07 | florian_kc | koen: do you know the parameters offhand? |
| 14:31.28 | koen | monotone db migrate --db=old.db |
| 14:31.35 | koen | that should do the trick |
| 14:31.45 | florian_kc | koen: cool - i'll try |
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| 14:39.15 | florian_kc | oh... this update may take a while |
| 14:47.59 | ArjanS | oh oh, f**ked my gpe install again :( |
| 14:56.27 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 15:03.38 | XorA | florian_kc: I assume thats a colour treo? |
| 15:05.20 | XorA | so a fam 8.3 release on sat for christmas? |
| 15:07.02 | florian_kc | XorA: no idea... i don't have one. |
| 15:07.23 | XorA | florian_kc: I have an old treo in work, would be fun to resurect it, but its b/w |
| 15:07.32 | florian_kc | XorA: good idea... if someone fixes i18n and gpe-what till then. |
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| 15:08.40 | florian_kc | jg: good morning |
| 15:09.02 | jg | morning florian_kc |
| 15:09.06 | XorA | hmm, I appear to be using 102% of memeory |
| 15:09.36 | florian_kc | heh |
| 15:10.13 | jg | XorA: maybe it's beginning to kick text pages out; I dunno how those numbers are getting calculated... |
| 15:10.15 | XorA | I guess the cpu/mem applet doesnt know about swap |
| 15:11.08 | florian_kc | hmm yes, somethign like this... maybe _law_ has some clue. |
| 15:11.48 | XorA | ah yes, swap it would seem, I added 32M to stop somne apps causing OOM to kill most of gpe |
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| 15:12.39 | florian_kc | XorA: oh... how much memory do you have?! |
| 15:12.47 | XorA | florian_kc: 64M |
| 15:13.10 | florian_kc | XorA: that should be enough for most apps... |
| 15:14.12 | XorA | florian_kc: ipkg install firefox will happilly munch all the ram |
| 15:14.23 | XorA | florian_kc: and some webpages in firefox will also |
| 15:14.43 | florian_kc | XorA: uh firefox... i understand :-) |
| 15:15.44 | XorA | florian_kc: Im the nutter with firefox, gimp, gnumeric, abiword on a PDA :-) |
| 15:17.09 | lardman|work | XorA: You should stick your oar in on the pdaX forum then - they'd love what you're running ;) |
| 15:17.47 | XorA | lardman|work: I do occasionally |
| 15:17.56 | lardman|work | I know |
| 15:18.01 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 15:18.03 | XorA | lardman|work: though I ran scared when they started to use KDE |
| 15:18.12 | XorA | lardman|work: and OpenOfffice |
| 15:18.13 | florian_kc | XorA: ! |
| 15:18.30 | lardman|work | I was about to say, running all of that on top of KDE would have them salivating! |
| 15:18.57 | lardman|work | I see there;s a thread about getting Enlightenment running on pdaX |
| 15:19.14 | lardman|work | We should make sure that an e-image is added to the release |
| 15:19.17 | XorA | bitbake e-image :-) |
| 15:19.38 | lardman|work | Yes, I'm not sure about the size though atm, I've not looked at it in a while |
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| 15:19.41 | Macfiron | Hi |
| 15:19.44 | florian_kc | hi Macfiron |
| 15:19.44 | XorA | luckilly OZ will always outshine pdaXrom due to 2.6 kernel and decent build system |
| 15:20.20 | lardman|work | From our point of view, but pdaX will eventually manage to build a 2.6 kernel (by adopting OE perhaps ;) |
| 15:21.05 | lardman|work | bedboi: ping |
| 15:21.59 | XorA | lardman|work: nah, they will just nick RP's work and claim some crazy russian did it |
| 15:22.42 | lardman|work | XorA: Exactly, but to the end-user that's of no importance |
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| 15:24.30 | XorA | we should just form pdaXflash |
| 15:25.18 | lardman|work | I don't think it's that, we just need to push GPE more - the apps, etc. |
| 15:26.14 | XorA | lardman|work: yes, a lot of users just see OpieZaurus |
| 15:26.15 | lardman|work | By that I mean the fact that we have everything they do (pretty much), plus it's more up to date |
| 15:26.49 | florian_kc | Sounds like a plan... :-) |
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| 15:26.55 | lardman|work | It might pay to make some changes to the oz.org website to introduce the different flavours of flash image |
| 15:27.18 | lardman|work | I'll make an effort in the New Year (I'll have less work on - phew!) |
| 15:27.26 | XorA | just need to scap some pr0n in firefox on Z and we sorted |
| 15:28.10 | lardman|work | Well links to hh.org to the gpe & opie sites are fine, but we prob need more explanation on oz.org |
| 15:28.17 | lardman|work | Screenshots are always good :) |
| 15:28.24 | florian_kc | We need to work on some frequently visible and used details more... syncin, panel, desktop and device support. |
| 15:29.42 | lardman|work | Do we have a usb-net/storage choice applet? |
| 15:30.26 | florian_kc | Yes... Settings->USB, but i never managed to test it because i don't have a device wher this works. |
| 15:30.46 | XorA | gimme a sec and Ill test |
| 15:30.54 | lardman|work | Oh, what kind of usb are we talking? |
| 15:31.19 | lardman|work | florian_kc: you don;t plug in your iPAQ/Zaurus to a PC via usb? |
| 15:31.25 | florian_kc | Argh... i forgot to replace that file selector before releasing |
| 15:32.41 | florian_kc | lardman|work: sometimes... but the ipaq runs 2.4 |
| 15:33.02 | XorA | florian_kc: the bad gnome one? |
| 15:33.07 | lardman|work | florian_kc: Oh I see; is there no strorage_fd implementation for the iPAQ? |
| 15:33.22 | lardman|work | s/strorage_fd/storage_fd |
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| 15:34.08 | florian_kc | XorA: yep... in fact it iis a gtk one. |
| 15:34.31 | pH1 | hi |
| 15:34.46 | florian_kc | lardman|work: yes right... or not that i'm aware of at least. |
| 15:34.51 | florian_kc | hi pH1 |
| 15:34.58 | XorA | hmmm the gpe-conf usb doesnt work for me, but Im not convined my module is fscked |
| 15:35.14 | XorA | s/is/isnt'/ |
| 15:35.22 | XorA | ah bugger it ill never spell it right |
| 15:35.26 | lardman|work | Is this a recent addition to gpe-conf? I need to bake a new image |
| 15:36.44 | florian_kc | lardman|work: i don't think so... but maybe you can find out if the correct module is loaded at all. |
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| 15:38.15 | lardman|work | florian_kc: I just meant that I'd not seen an applet to change between the two modes |
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| 15:40.09 | florian_kc | lardman|work: ah okay, then maybe... depends on how old your image is. |
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| 15:44.05 | XorA | well my storage module works, the gpe-conf applet doesnt seem to switch modules though |
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| 15:49.00 | _law_ | florian_kc, yes mem applet doesn know about swap :-) |
| 15:49.13 | florian_kc | XorA: okay... which version of gpe-conf is this? |
| 15:49.26 | florian_kc | _law_: ah okay |
| 15:49.28 | XorA | 1.26-r0 |
| 15:49.32 | _law_ | i?ll look at this later |
| 15:50.40 | _law_ | dont have much time for my Z today :-( |
| 15:50.41 | florian_kc | XorA: okay... need to debug this. maybe it suffers from a bug in the suid mechanism... in this case 0.1.27 migth fix it. |
| 15:51.09 | XorA | florian_kc: actually hold on a sec, gpe-conf might not be what I think it is, I had an ipkg crash, I will reinstall |
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| 15:51.52 | _law_ | i think this is because christmas is here in a few days :-) |
| 15:55.40 | XorA | florian_kc: it seems to rmmod g-ether, but not modprone g-file-storage |
| 15:56.26 | _law_ | koen, could you set latest gpe-conf to openzaurus.3.5.4 at .dev ? |
| 15:57.09 | _law_ | have to go :-( |
| 15:57.10 | _law_ | cu |
| 15:57.12 | XorA | Im being kicked out of work :-) |
| 15:57.25 | florian_kc | XorA: okay... let me see |
| 16:04.59 | XorA | florian_kc: I have to go sorry, I be able to look at channel when I get home if I beat the wife home :-) |
| 16:05.30 | florian_kc | XorA|gone: heh okay |
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| 16:15.18 | koen|770 | hi all |
| 16:16.13 | florian_kc | hi koen|770 |
| 16:16.18 | pH5 | hi koen|770 |
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| 16:44.26 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 16:46.06 | bedboi | hi there |
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| 16:54.32 | lardman|work | hey bedboi, how's work on the 770 going? |
| 16:59.35 | bedboi | i've been busy with shitty technical report work |
| 16:59.43 | bedboi | so no real progress there |
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| 17:05.51 | lardman|work | bedboi: I've been busy too, but have some ideas for getting the bl & battery reporting working using DBUS. Need to see whether I can get gstreamer working too - something to do after eating the turkey ;) |
| 17:08.04 | florian_kc | lardman|work: Use dbus-monitor and strings to find out the correct messages... the contents are more or less trivial. |
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| 17:20.43 | lardman|work | florian_kc: I've done the strings stuff, just not had time to apply that to dbus-monitor |
| 17:23.48 | florian_kc | lardman|work: There must be a message to query for the status used at application startup and update messages on status change. iirc nomis identified some of them using dbus-monitor. |
| 17:24.33 | lardman|work | florian_kc: Yes, I spoke to him and he sent me a text file of what he'd found |
| 17:26.32 | florian_kc | lardman|work: very good... |
| 17:26.34 | lardman|work | florian_kc: I made a note of the interesting dbus 'addresses' which I found in the strings output: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/Nokia-DBUS-strings.txt |
| 17:27.13 | lardman|work | florian_kc: and any /dev entries which appeared too: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/Nokia-devices.txt |
| 17:29.02 | florian_kc | lardman|work: the first two look interesting |
| 17:29.44 | florian_kc | lardman|work: /com/nokia/bme/request sounds like some query |
| 17:31.05 | florian_kc | lardman|work: the sysfs stuff for backlight is already in minilite, but one of the daemons running changes the setting back. |
| 17:31.14 | lardman|work | florian_kc: that's dsme |
| 17:31.41 | lardman|work | florian_kc: I'm tempted to remove the dsme task which handles the backlight, but need to do a bit more digging |
| 17:32.35 | florian_kc | lardman|work: or we teach minilite and ipaq-sleep to use it :-) |
| 17:33.09 | lardman|work | florian_kc: Yes, that's an option |
| 17:33.26 | florian_kc | lardman|work: you can use dbus-send to try out... |
| 17:33.34 | lardman|work | florian_kc: dsmetool looks like it's the launcher for the dsme tasks. I'd like to just remove one and see what happens |
| 17:34.42 | lardman|work | Possibly kill the libinactivity task |
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| 17:40.11 | florian_kc | lardman|work: sounds like a plan |
| 17:40.55 | lardman|work | florian_kc: I'll have a play with it over the weekend while digesting my turkey |
| 17:41.33 | florian_kc | hmm... turkey - sounds like another good plan :-) |
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| 17:49.12 | dan2003 | #pdaxrom |
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| 18:28.39 | lardman|work | night guys |
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| 19:19.07 | koen|770 | hey Philippe |
| 19:19.33 | Philippe | hey koen ! |
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| 20:04.43 | bedboi | Hi |
| 20:05.17 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 20:05.35 | bedboi | What's up |
| 20:05.51 | bedboi | I'm freezing |
| 20:06.57 | bedboi | Walking and chatting with my n770 interest my hands |
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