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| 00:58.48 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 09:52.58 | bedboi | hi all |
| 09:53.51 | ade|desk | lo all |
| 09:57.29 | koen | hey bedboi & ade|desk |
| 09:59.21 | ade|desk | koen: did you put the diet-x11 xim patch in ? |
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| 10:03.20 | koen | not yet |
| 10:07.00 | ade|desk | ok np |
| 10:13.39 | bedboi | anyone knows 10 Gbps switches? |
| 10:13.44 | bedboi | i mean some brand |
| 10:20.05 | _law_ | bedboi, hp |
| 10:20.22 | pb_ | for what type of network? I think Cisco, Alcatel, HP, all the usual suspects have 10G Ethernet offerings these days. |
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| 10:25.43 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:27.23 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 10:32.33 | koen | hey _law_ , pb_ & florian_kc |
| 10:32.46 | _law_ | hi all |
| 10:34.14 | koen | florian_kc: could you do a release of gpe-conf with the fixed launchers? |
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| 10:35.17 | koen | hey XorA |
| 10:35.55 | XorA | hey koen and others |
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| 10:45.50 | florian_kc | koen: yes |
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| 11:14.40 | _law_ | in kernel 2.4 der is an shared variable in /proc/meminfo any ideas how this is called in kernel 2.6 |
| 11:37.44 | koen | I don't see anything that I could interpret as 'shared' |
| 11:58.34 | _law_ | i think i have an working version :-) |
| 11:58.40 | _law_ | for kernel 2.6 |
| 12:01.43 | _law_ | of mb-applet-system-monitor (incl. memory usage) |
| 12:02.10 | florian_kc | _law_: cool! |
| 12:05.41 | _law_ | someone tried my version of mb-applet-wireless yet? |
| 12:07.47 | florian_kc | did i miss this?! |
| 12:08.45 | _law_ | florian_kc, i have written an patch for mb-applet-wireless to show corrent interface with hostap drivers |
| 12:09.10 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/matchbox-panel/ |
| 12:11.21 | florian_kc | _law_: ah thats nice |
| 12:17.46 | koen | florian_kc: can I apply http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/meta-sdk.diff ? |
| 12:18.26 | florian_kc | koen: yes, i think that would be good. |
| 12:21.05 | koen | done |
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| 12:36.56 | _law_ | if i want a "turn off display on clamshell close" i have to fix what before? |
| 12:38.17 | _law_ | gpe-conf keys? |
| 12:39.13 | koen | I suspect keylaunch and/or matchbox |
| 12:40.29 | _law_ | would be nice if someone could make this more device unspecifed |
| 12:42.52 | florian_kc | _law_: yes... thats the plan. |
| 12:44.46 | koen | justinp had it working with lineakd |
| 12:45.14 | _law_ | lineakd is big or? |
| 12:45.16 | _law_ | http://www.oroborus.org/files/changelogs/keylaunch/changelog |
| 12:46.16 | _law_ | perhabs we should try 1.3.1 should fix an problem with $HOME |
| 12:47.13 | koen | gpe seems to use a different keylaunch |
| 12:47.29 | _law_ | gpe uses 1.3.0 |
| 12:48.17 | koen | weird |
| 12:48.21 | koen | I can only find 2.0.7 in OE |
| 12:50.17 | _law_ | ok i think this is the gpe version name 1.3.1 is latest on http://www.oroborus.org |
| 12:51.01 | _law_ | koen so i should try to replace keylaunch with lineak ? |
| 12:51.26 | koen | I only know that justinp got it to work, didn't try it myself |
| 12:53.55 | koen | florian_kc: do you the difference between gpe-keylaunch and oroborus-keylaunch? |
| 12:55.21 | _law_ | how can i turn off/on display via commandline? |
| 12:56.08 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.34 | florian_kc | koen: no idea... but iirc orborus isn't mantained anymore. |
| 12:57.08 | _law_ | and if you change to lineakd? |
| 12:57.13 | _law_ | with gpe |
| 12:57.43 | florian_kc | _law_: i don't know this one... i'll take a look. |
| 12:58.20 | _law_ | florian_kc, http://lineak.sourceforge.net/index.php?nav=news |
| 12:59.37 | _law_ | koen, echo "0" >> /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/brightness |
| 13:00.08 | _law_ | or power |
| 13:01.18 | koen | that's just the bl |
| 13:01.23 | koen | the lcd eats power too |
| 13:01.48 | florian_kc | _law_: Looks pretty interesting... |
| 13:03.45 | koen | _law_: do you have a binary for the fixed applets? |
| 13:04.49 | _law_ | koen, no havent build ipk only copied bin :-( |
| 13:05.29 | koen | do you have those bins? |
| 13:06.30 | _law_ | koen. mom i?ll build an ipk |
| 13:07.04 | _law_ | no post bins, so i am faster :-) |
| 13:08.31 | _law_ | koen, http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/matchbox-panel/ |
| 13:08.55 | koen | thank |
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| 13:29.54 | reenoo | morning |
| 13:30.21 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 13:30.22 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 13:30.42 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 13:30.45 | reenoo | yo koen |
| 13:45.27 | pb_ | morning reenoo |
| 13:48.30 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 13:48.58 | koen | pb_: have you arrived in sunny KL yet? |
| 13:50.39 | pb_ | koen: yah, I've been in Penang for a bit more than 24 hours now. |
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| 13:53.56 | _law_ | how can i checkout kernelversion? whats the best way? |
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| 13:57.03 | koen | uname? |
| 13:57.14 | koen | or check is /sys is present |
| 13:57.21 | koen | hmmm |
| 13:57.32 | koen | DHL just dropped of a package from google |
| 13:57.51 | koen | why would google send me a package |
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| 14:19.18 | _law_ | koen, have you tried the applets? |
| 14:20.06 | koen | _law_: yes, they work |
| 14:20.41 | _law_ | ok, no i have to write an patch for mb-applet-system-monitor |
| 14:21.39 | _law_ | but i dont know whats the best way to check for the kernel version. should i to it with KERNEL_VERSION? |
| 14:23.23 | _law_ | or with uname -r |
| 14:23.27 | XorA | _law_: shouldnt a kernel version check be userspace? |
| 14:23.46 | XorA | _law_: its technically possible to switch kernels withouth swithching / filesystem |
| 14:24.20 | _law_ | XorA, so uname -r is the better way or? |
| 14:24.38 | _law_ | cant find any kernel version in /sys |
| 14:25.10 | XorA | /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease ? |
| 14:25.36 | _law_ | XorA, thanks |
| 14:26.15 | XorA | _law_: no idea if thats official or not, only checked on fedora machines |
| 14:26.34 | _law_ | XorA, me too ;-) |
| 14:26.50 | XorA | _law_: gives 2.6.15-rc2 on Z |
| 14:29.06 | ArjanS | it's official, I have it too on my vanilla 2.6.12.5 kernel |
| 14:29.55 | _law_ | ok so i?ll do it this way |
| 14:38.19 | ade|desk | _law_: doesn't that assume /proc exists |
| 14:42.53 | pb_ | night all |
| 14:43.00 | reenoo | 'night pb_ |
| 14:43.14 | ade|desk | night pb_ |
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| 15:04.29 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 15:05.09 | pH5 | hey koen |
| 15:39.58 | XorA | is there a reason gpe chooses to rotate matchbox panel, but not move the side of screen it is on? |
| 15:41.06 | koen | afaik to prevent that panel-resizing drops applets |
| 15:41.13 | koen | I always disable that |
| 15:42.41 | koen | matchbox-panel --no-flip --orientation south & |
| 15:43.43 | XorA | koen: yeah, I know, I was just wondering the design decision |
| 15:43.46 | reenoo | that's more of a matchbox decision than a gpe one, isn't it? |
| 15:44.26 | koen | if gpe doesn't have patches to /etc/matchbox/session or decides to put it's own in ~/.matchbox, yes |
| 15:45.01 | koen | its* |
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| 16:45.27 | mimecar | hi |
| 16:46.34 | florian_kc | hi mimecar |
| 16:47.02 | mimecar | evening florian_kc |
| 16:49.30 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 16:59.17 | mimecar | hi koen |
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| 17:03.30 | mimecar | hi molivier |
| 17:03.44 | mimecar | is your kithen ok ? :p |
| 17:03.51 | mimecar | kitchen |
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| 19:52.13 | Tyggerbob | Hello all |
| 19:52.56 | reenoo | hey Tyggerbob |
| 19:53.13 | Tyggerbob | Hey Reenoo |
| 19:53.44 | florian_kc | hi Tyggerbob |
| 19:53.54 | Tyggerbob | Hi Florian |
| 19:54.16 | Tyggerbob | koen|tv will be happy to know that I ditched Gentoo... |
| 19:54.22 | pH5 | hey Tyggerbob, florian_kc |
| 19:54.32 | Tyggerbob | Hi Ph5 |
| 19:54.50 | koen|tv | hey TyggerBob |
| 19:54.51 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 19:55.15 | reenoo | hehe.. my gentoo has an estimated lifetime of 106MB left |
| 19:55.20 | Tyggerbob | The minor performance increase I noted was not worthe PITA of constant recompiling stuff... |
| 19:55.37 | koen|tv | my old gentoo ate a scsi disk |
| 19:55.59 | koen|tv | and bumping PR on X + glibc every other day annoyed me to much |
| 19:56.03 | Tyggerbob | cuz.. once you've gone Slack..../ |
| 19:57.11 | Tyggerbob | My new toy of the day is Enlightenment.../ |
| 19:57.17 | koen|tv | heh |
| 19:57.26 | koen|tv | e16 or e17? |
| 19:57.29 | Tyggerbob | e17 |
| 19:57.38 | Tyggerbob | compiling as we speak |
| 19:57.39 | koen|tv | that one is cute indeed |
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| 19:58.11 | Tyggerbob | that'd be cool.. |
| 19:58.13 | Tyggerbob | I noticed the OE directory in their CVS |
| 19:58.29 | koen|tv | that's OE, the e17 dir in OE is much more up to date :) |
| 19:58.35 | koen|tv | ehm |
| 19:58.47 | koen|tv | change the first 'OE' into 'old' |
| 19:59.00 | Tyggerbob | Cool.. |
| 19:59.01 | pH5 | ah. makes so much more sense now. |
| 19:59.09 | Tyggerbob | Huh? |
| 19:59.24 | Tyggerbob | how is our version newer than the one I just pulled off their CVS? |
| 20:00.02 | reenoo | the OE subdir contains outdated crap |
| 20:00.23 | Tyggerbob | Ahhhh |
| 20:00.32 | Tyggerbob | I see |
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| 21:37.15 | _guillermo | reenoo: any new remarkable thing in the java/oe world? |
| 21:41.07 | reenoo | _guillermo: not that I'm aware of |
| 21:42.23 | _guillermo | ok, just asking |
| 21:57.48 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/matchbox-panel/ matchbox-panel updates now should work fine :-) |
| 21:59.58 | florian_kc | _law_: cool |
| 22:00.12 | florian_kc | _law_: you should send patches to mallum |
| 22:00.44 | _law_ | florian_kc: postet the wireless patch in o-hand bugzilla |
| 22:00.56 | _law_ | or should i mail him the stuff? |
| 22:01.47 | florian_kc | _law_: that should be okay... i guess. |
| 22:02.37 | _law_ | i have posted .bb file also so we could add the patch to oe before. if someone needs them :-) |
| 22:03.06 | _law_ | florian_kc: installed lineak ? |
| 22:05.30 | florian_kc | _law_: even better... mallum seems to be a little bit slow releasing fixes. |
| 22:06.03 | florian_kc | _law_: not yet... too busy today. |
| 22:06.17 | koen | remind me to poke mallum on jabber about doing a mb-wm release |
| 22:06.37 | florian_kc | thats a good idea... |
| 22:08.07 | _law_ | i?ll look at lineak tomorrow |
| 22:08.12 | _law_ | if i find some time |
| 22:09.19 | _law_ | perhaps we can replace keylauncher with lineak |
| 22:09.42 | koen | I hope so |
| 22:10.20 | _law_ | if this happens i can remove another point in my wishes list :-) |
| 22:15.41 | _law_ | i also should work an gkdial .... |
| 22:15.46 | _law_ | s/an/on |
| 22:16.30 | _law_ | i want an nokia770 like dialin applet |
| 22:16.36 | koen | me too |
| 22:16.41 | koen | but that one is pretty custom |
| 22:16.48 | koen | and partially closed source iirc |
| 22:17.42 | _law_ | i have got an patch for gkdial to make it more applet like, but there are some problems (http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gkdial/) |
| 22:20.51 | _law_ | n8 |
| 22:21.43 | koen | 'night |
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| 22:25.43 | CSMan | koen: do you know who is maintaining the gstreamer ipkgs ? |
| 22:26.03 | koen | the name should be in the ipkg it self |
| 22:26.29 | pH5 | nobody probably |
| 22:27.29 | koen | Maintainer:OpenEmbedded Team <oe () handhelds.org> |
| 22:27.55 | pH5 | or all of us, then |
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| 22:33.06 | reenoo | heh |
| 22:33.17 | reenoo | http://nat.org/2005/december/#Helicopter |
| 22:33.32 | florian_ | re |
| 22:33.37 | koen | yeah |
| 22:33.52 | koen | florian_: wb |
| 22:33.56 | koen | reenoo: wb |
| 22:34.07 | reenoo | hey florian_ |
| 22:34.29 | reenoo | reminds me of an umm... incident with our not-yet UAV |
| 22:35.53 | reenoo | it wasn't really an accident since the guy flying it could have known it would drop to the floor once the battery is low... |
| 22:48.12 | pH5 | good night |
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| 22:57.07 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:57.16 | reenoo | 'night koen |
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